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#2206
Quote from: LilySavage on July 20, 2018, 11:24:46 PM
[quote
Isn't landowner responsible in law unless they're specifically indemnified by the Insurance taken out by event organisers.

The FAI have both public liability and player insurance. Thats absolutely not a reason to reject the request


You sure about that?
[/quote] are you suggesting they dont?
#2207
Quote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2018, 02:47:38 PM
Isn't landowner responsible in law unless they're specifically indemnified by the Insurance taken out by event organisers.

The FAI have both public liability and player insurance. Thats absolutely not a reason to reject the request
#2208
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
28 posts by Baile Brigín.
11 of them on this subject ::)
So?
#2209
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 19, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Would Liam Miller not have made a fair few quid during his soccer career ?
sure thats grand so. No need to honour the man and raise a few bob for charity.

Think how this looks to the broader world
#2210
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2018, 06:33:48 PM
I think you'll find the €30m was given on the understanding that the GAA would change its rules to allow the Rugby World Cup games to be played in some GAA grounds of the Irish bid was successful.
But sure let's bash th'oul Gah.
It'll take attention away from 2 soccer clubs about to go under.
You think this is a conspiracy by the soccer lads? Really? There seems to be a lot of Gaels unhappy with this too.
#2211
Quote from: rosnarun on July 19, 2018, 04:46:00 PM
@Baile Brigín 2
I have a party arranged for you house  next Tuesday make sure your out and leave a full fridge
the story is total bollix
soccer Ireland make millions but choose to give it  to people like John Delany and useless t**ts on the pitch and 2 of their clubs  could be out of business in a week or so unless they find another sucker to
leech money off . but the GAA get the laughable title of Grab all association
Sad for Liam Miller and his family  and they are lots of tragedies in all sports  but they  nothing to do with the GAA and the idea of trying to force soccer into GAA grounds using the stick of Charity is reprehensible .

Thats laughable.  What players do the FAI give money to? Did the state invest €30m in my fridge on the apparent clear understanding i shared it if requested?

Its a bit stoneage to not see that after taking €30m in public money for a venue that it might be wise to allow the broader community use it to raise funds for charity and a dead mans young family. The only people forcing anything is Croke Park.

We might know the nuances of the rules,  but to outsiders the Cork co board are saying they have no control over who uses their stadium. Baaaddd PR
#2212
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2018, 03:56:22 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 19, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2018, 03:14:55 PM
Can of worms opening...

https://twitter.com/timoconnorbl/status/1019850077127495680
Now isn't that interesting. I cant see the organisers of this event going legal, but rugby might

No chance.
If that chap is right, and he looks to be, there is a 45,000 capacity venue in Cork that they have a right to use. Not as much use to soccer with the terracing, but Munster rugby have been talking about moving big games to Cork for years but Musgrave is too small. I can see a cheekly challenge to the ban in this instance.
#2213
Quote from: trailer on July 18, 2018, 04:29:17 PM
The organisers confirmed that an approach was made with a view to hosting the match at Pairc Ui Chaoimh, but that this would require a rule change at GAA congress which won't be held until next spring.

Mr O'Flynn stressed, however, that Cork County Board were very receptive to their approaches and offered Pairc Ui Chaoimh's conferencing facilities free of charge.

Think the CCB did all they could in fairness. Nothing to see here.

National press and currently on Joe Duffy.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/anger-as-permission-refused-for-pirc-u-chaoimh-to-host-liam-miller-charity-match-37134405.html
#2214
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2018, 03:15:57 PM
No. Much easier for half eejits to go off on a bit of "Gah" bashing.
Why didn't they kick up over Cork's soccer team not getting the Páirc for their game against a Polish team the other week?
Sure half the Poles in Ireland would have gone to it?
Because Turners Cross is more than capable of hosting that game and i assume PuC doesnt have a UEFA rating and when you remove the terracing is 20,000 capacity.
#2215
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2018, 03:14:55 PM
Can of worms opening...

https://twitter.com/timoconnorbl/status/1019850077127495680
Now isn't that interesting. I cant see the organisers of this event going legal, but rugby might
#2216
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 19, 2018, 03:08:41 PM
Look - I'm all for it, but has anyone considered the liability issue here?

I'm involved in local events here in South Dublin and for all public events we have to have insurance in case anything happens.

So - the charity event goes ahead in PUC and there is an issue. Someone falls...........one of the players ruptures a tendon due to a mad tackle.

So - who covers this? The organisers..........PUC? Would PUC be exposed if it hosted an event that was, technically, in breach of the rules of the organisation that owns the stadium?

It's easy to pick a fight with the 'GAH', 'Grab Alls' etc but if you want this not to happen again get a motion passed to allow County Boards to decide on a case-by-case basis to open a stadium for events like these, as long as the organisers take full responsibility and have their own insurance in place. Acting ultra vires can never be in the GAA's interests.

If a player gets injured the FAI would cover it as they would be overseeing, if not running the event. Its very silly to suggest a stadium owner would be liable for a sporting injury on their turf ahead of the organisers.
#2217
Quote from: trailer on July 18, 2018, 04:29:17 PM
The organisers confirmed that an approach was made with a view to hosting the match at Pairc Ui Chaoimh, but that this would require a rule change at GAA congress which won't be held until next spring.

Mr O'Flynn stressed, however, that Cork County Board were very receptive to their approaches and offered Pairc Ui Chaoimh's conferencing facilities free of charge.

Think the CCB did all they could in fairness. Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here? You sure?
#2218
Quote from: Rossfan on July 18, 2018, 04:09:39 PM
Soccer people doing a charity soccer thing in memory of a soccer player  in a soccer pitch.
Fair play to them.
Nothing to do with the GAA.
So the GAA were right to not rent them the hall? Not very community spirited of you.
#2219
Quote from: Boycey on July 18, 2018, 04:03:31 PM
Usually GAA bashing without even a checking of the facts and I do wonder about the original poster.. again!

What facts are wrong? Its in the papers.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/soccer/roy-keane-in-town-to-annnouce-ticket-details-for-liam-miller-tribute-match-856056.html

Wonder how?
#2220
As you may or may not be aware as a charity fundraiser a Man U XI plays a Celtic/Ireland XI, usual celebrity infux, to raise funds for charity and the family of Liam Miller.

The organisers asked could they use Pairc Ui Caoimh and were turned down. Game is in Turners Cross and will generate a lot less. Similar story happened in Omagh when the GAA refused to allow a game to raise money for the families.

So what do we think? The rules are the rules? Or with the €30m the taxpayer put into the venue should common sense applied and a gesture made? Especially as its a fundraiser. The PR isnt great.

Discuss