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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 04:05:39 PM »
Dublin fans are a bit like unionists. They want the ascendancy and everything stacked in their favour and are not interested in a level playing field.

The GAA see Dublin GAA as a cashcow and that's all that matters to them.

And you wonder why Dubs don't want to know.

The howl of culchie losers.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 04:04:26 PM »
True Laois.
If we can't have 4 County Boards in Dublin how about a compromise
1 County Board but fielding 2 football teams Dublin City, pop c550k and Dublin County pop c800k?
They'd each be in the top 3 for playing numbers.

No they wouldn't. There are very few GAA clubs in Fingal and DLR. And thats before we get to how many of your 550k and 800k are culchies.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 02:45:20 PM »
Dublin club teams are not dominating lienster

It’s almost like club and county are different competitions

Or people are mistaking a strong county side with overall strength of tbe games in your capital.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 02:26:03 PM »
You can split dublins senior side without splitting their club scene into two counties.

So the current county board structure remain in place with them managing 2/3/4 county sides?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 12:56:58 PM »
Kildare unfortunately as I am from kildare are just not very good at football. Our history shows that. We should be better but we aren’t and aren’t going to get better with no hope of competing for a province.

My “narrative” Sid is that population is the biggest factor. If you want to disagree with that then fair enough
Nobody said population isn't a factor, but it also isn't the be all and end all either - and all representative sport has inherent population imbalances

I gave the example of Cork having over five times the population of Kilkenny yet Kilkenny have won eight All-Irelands since Cork last won one

Saying "we are not very good at football" is not an excuse - it just showcases the attitude that is holding a county like Kildare back

Kildare had 222k at the last census - Kerry for comparison had 147k, Mayo 130k

Kildare has everything in place to be one of the top football counties on a consistent basis, except attitude, organisation, and the knowledge of what it takes and the willingness to follow through on that

Kildare people may bristle at this, but it's the brutal truth

Kildare have had 133 years to become good at football. We never have. It’s never going to happen. And certainly not with a behomeath like Dublin on our doorstep.

Dublin won Leinster football. Congratulations.

And when Dublin decided to change that attitude somehow Dublin were wrong.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 11:14:02 AM »
Where is HQ throwing money at Meath Co Board to stop them all turning to soccer and rugby?



Have Meath had any plans or strategy papers rejected or not supported? Has any county?

You remind me of the soccer heads whinging about the Grab Alls while doing hee haw themselves.

Fermanagh had a plan rejected I believe. Oh that's right...the script writers should have "tried harder". ::)

I have heard this but nobody has ever linked to anything about it.

But the lack of a second plan taking the rejection on board would prove my point.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 11:12:51 AM »
Do any Dubs here object to moving the game out of their home ground? Surely Newry or Armagh is the fairest option?

None whatsoever. I personally love going on the road when given a chance

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 12:40:03 AM »
If only the Laythrums would work harder they'd get a team from their 3,000 players that would bate the best of Dublin's 39,000.
But they're too busy trying to keep things going in their 20 or so small clubeens.

But Lietrim were always shite. A Cinderella county. Don't even field a camogie team. Thats life in a county with less people than Bray. And I would suggest they overachieve.

The question is why counties like Meath with a pedigree, structure and no other major sports teams have given up. Thats a question of work ethic at commiittee level and down. Where is there plan? Where is their training guide for kids and GDO's?
People badly need to look at the historical performances of teams and they need to understand the realities of representative sport

There is no system in which Leitrim or Longford or Fermanagh will win trophies unless a freak generation of players comes along

Success for these counties will always be measured in relative terms, as it will for, say, the Irish soccer team

That is not an argument for abolishing the Irish soccer team no more than it is for abolishing Leitrim, Longford or Fermanagh

It took until 1960 for Sam to cross the border, the Anglo-Celt was only very rarely won by a six county team until the 1950s, was that an argument for having the six county teams amalgamate?

The reason you have a county team and not a regional team is because the county is your identity

Look at how amalgamated regional teams have worked in Welsh rugby, they haven't worked at all

If amalgamated teams don't work, why do people think splitting teams in two or four will?

I have as much personal affinity to the concept of Fingal as I do the Northern Hemisphere or Leinster.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 12:28:48 AM »
Maybe Meath are not the fairest example in that they at least got the Center of Excellence built and are starting on rebuilding their stadium. Which is more than most.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 12:25:59 AM »
Where is HQ throwing money at Meath Co Board to stop them all turning to soccer and rugby?



Have Meath had any plans or strategy papers rejected or not supported? Has any county?

You remind me of the soccer heads whinging about the Grab Alls while doing hee haw themselves.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 12:16:02 AM »
If only the Laythrums would work harder they'd get a team from their 3,000 players that would bate the best of Dublin's 39,000.
But they're too busy trying to keep things going in their 20 or so small clubeens.

But Lietrim were always shite. A Cinderella county. Don't even field a camogie team. Thats life in a county with less people than Bray. And I would suggest they overachieve.

The question is why counties like Meath with a pedigree, structure and no other major sports teams have given up. Thats a question of work ethic at commiittee level and down. Where is there plan? Where is their training guide for kids and GDO's?


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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: Today at 12:05:31 AM »

Dublin have had some amazing matches with Mayo and Kerry over the last 5/6 years. Some of the greatest games there’s ever been. I’ve no idea why Meath and Kildare are not as good as Mayo and Kerry.


The reason is that Dublin has smothered the Leinster Champonship for 15 years now.  15 years! The one title Meath won in 2010 they could not even enjoy.

Kildare and Meath teams are constantly chopping and changing squads to try to get the right formula. Consistency is huge when building a team. You can also image many good players not committing. Why would they?

Exactly. Players won’t commit. Been happening all across Leinster for years now. Lads chuck it in before they should be peaking.
Players will always commit to a set up which they think is serious

Mayo never have problems getting players to commit, there is a fierce hunger to win in the county and that's reflected in the senior set up they have, that's their culture

Ironically it's all those All-Ireland final defeats that have probably done more than anything to foster that culture and turn them into a pure, driven football county, every child in Mayo grows up dreaming of finally winning the All-Ireland for Mayo, they believe its achievable

Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels

I'd say if Jim Gavin or Malachy O'Rourke or Mickey Harte took over Meath, they wouldn't have too many problems getting players to commit

Davy Fitzgerald had no problems getting Wexford hurlers to commit

When Mick O'Dwyer took over Kildare, he energised the whole county

Jim McGuinness totally changed the culture in Donegal



 

"Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels"

Who would have won the all irelands 2010-19 if the Dubs hadn't been financially doped?

https://youtu.be/ZSm1j4oL8zA

Dublin
Traffic cone gaels?

https://youtu.be/O3G1bwD0ao0

The Dubs post Heffo struggled .
Laois and Wesmeath were the last straw.
The Frankenstein project followed.

So Dublin realised they were sub par and got their shit together.

So stop whining and do the same.

Were you involved in this Dublin revival?

At an extremely minor and peripheral level, I suppose I was.

What I didn't do was complain about how unfair it was that Dublin were shite.

How come you did not complain?

Because I'm not a loser. If your team is underperfoming you lift standards and work harder. You don't try and hobble who is ahead of you off the park.

How did ye lift these standards and learn how to work harder?

Personally? Not much beyond helping implement the Blue Wave stuff at club level. It was mocked, but it worked.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: November 22, 2020, 11:56:23 PM »

Dublin have had some amazing matches with Mayo and Kerry over the last 5/6 years. Some of the greatest games there’s ever been. I’ve no idea why Meath and Kildare are not as good as Mayo and Kerry.


The reason is that Dublin has smothered the Leinster Champonship for 15 years now.  15 years! The one title Meath won in 2010 they could not even enjoy.

Kildare and Meath teams are constantly chopping and changing squads to try to get the right formula. Consistency is huge when building a team. You can also image many good players not committing. Why would they?

Exactly. Players won’t commit. Been happening all across Leinster for years now. Lads chuck it in before they should be peaking.
Players will always commit to a set up which they think is serious

Mayo never have problems getting players to commit, there is a fierce hunger to win in the county and that's reflected in the senior set up they have, that's their culture

Ironically it's all those All-Ireland final defeats that have probably done more than anything to foster that culture and turn them into a pure, driven football county, every child in Mayo grows up dreaming of finally winning the All-Ireland for Mayo, they believe its achievable

Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels

I'd say if Jim Gavin or Malachy O'Rourke or Mickey Harte took over Meath, they wouldn't have too many problems getting players to commit

Davy Fitzgerald had no problems getting Wexford hurlers to commit

When Mick O'Dwyer took over Kildare, he energised the whole county

Jim McGuinness totally changed the culture in Donegal



 

"Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels"

Who would have won the all irelands 2010-19 if the Dubs hadn't been financially doped?

https://youtu.be/ZSm1j4oL8zA

Dublin
Traffic cone gaels?

https://youtu.be/O3G1bwD0ao0

The Dubs post Heffo struggled .
Laois and Wesmeath were the last straw.
The Frankenstein project followed.

So Dublin realised they were sub par and got their shit together.

So stop whining and do the same.

Were you involved in this Dublin revival?

At an extremely minor and peripheral level, I suppose I was.

What I didn't do was complain about how unfair it was that Dublin were shite.

How come you did not complain?

Because I'm not a loser. If your team is underperfoming you lift standards and work harder. You don't try and hobble who is ahead of you off the park.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: November 22, 2020, 11:17:18 PM »
Why Mayo though?

other half, left mrs few years back

Is he living in Mayo?

Back and forth

His woman is from Ballina and ironically a distant cousin of Joe Biden. You will notice his Tweets have been anti-Trump. He's looking for a visit to the White House on Pats Day!
Is this so, is he not just a cousin to a Mayo cousin of Joe Biden?  or is it normal in Mayo to have a fling with a cousin?

Brolly's not related to Joe Biden's 3rd cousin. He's in a relationship with her.
The way Joe tells it is that he's in a fundraisng scheme and thats where it comes together.

And speaking on Claire Byrne Live on RTE about the election, the GAA pundit and barrister opened up on his unlikely relationship with Biden that dates back to his visit to a Mayo Hospice in 2017.

"I was very privileged to be on a speaker call with the (Biden) family in their home in Delaware the day after the election had been called," Brolly said.
"Basically I said congratulations, I got to know him through the (Mayo) Hospice and we've become friendly".

He visited Ireland in 2017 and turned the first sod of a €10 million construction of Mayo's first hospice in Castlebar, where he met Brolly.

Biden said he was 'honoured' that the hospice would be forever linked his late son Beau, who died in 2015 after a two-year battle with cancer.

His son Beau had planned to accompany him in his previous 2016 Ireland visit with President Obama, making the trip 'bittersweet' for Biden.

Mr Biden has family connections in Mayo, and his cousin Laurita Blewitt was the fundraising manager for the hospice's foundation.


https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/gaelic-football-news/joe-brolly-explains-friendship-president-22988547

Out of interest does anyone believe that?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« on: November 22, 2020, 11:16:14 PM »

Dublin have had some amazing matches with Mayo and Kerry over the last 5/6 years. Some of the greatest games there’s ever been. I’ve no idea why Meath and Kildare are not as good as Mayo and Kerry.


The reason is that Dublin has smothered the Leinster Champonship for 15 years now.  15 years! The one title Meath won in 2010 they could not even enjoy.

Kildare and Meath teams are constantly chopping and changing squads to try to get the right formula. Consistency is huge when building a team. You can also image many good players not committing. Why would they?

Exactly. Players won’t commit. Been happening all across Leinster for years now. Lads chuck it in before they should be peaking.
Players will always commit to a set up which they think is serious

Mayo never have problems getting players to commit, there is a fierce hunger to win in the county and that's reflected in the senior set up they have, that's their culture

Ironically it's all those All-Ireland final defeats that have probably done more than anything to foster that culture and turn them into a pure, driven football county, every child in Mayo grows up dreaming of finally winning the All-Ireland for Mayo, they believe its achievable

Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels

I'd say if Jim Gavin or Malachy O'Rourke or Mickey Harte took over Meath, they wouldn't have too many problems getting players to commit

Davy Fitzgerald had no problems getting Wexford hurlers to commit

When Mick O'Dwyer took over Kildare, he energised the whole county

Jim McGuinness totally changed the culture in Donegal



 

"Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels"

Who would have won the all irelands 2010-19 if the Dubs hadn't been financially doped?

https://youtu.be/ZSm1j4oL8zA

Dublin
Traffic cone gaels?

https://youtu.be/O3G1bwD0ao0

The Dubs post Heffo struggled .
Laois and Wesmeath were the last straw.
The Frankenstein project followed.

So Dublin realised they were sub par and got their shit together.

So stop whining and do the same.

Were you involved in this Dublin revival?

At an extremely minor and peripheral level, I suppose I was.

What I didn't do was complain about how unfair it was that Dublin were shite.

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