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I'm very surprised Jackson has chosen to sue, he really isn't doing himself any favours as it is only going to prolong the sage for him. It's probably his way of trying to shut down any negative public commentary on him and by choosing a senator out of the hundreds of negative online comments, he is trying to send out a message to silence the critics.

He has a big job on his hand to try and salvage his career and I don't think that is the way to go about it. I hope that they can be allowed to get on with their lives, they have been found not guilty of a crime and their reaction to it will decide how willing people will be to forgive their actions. For me, they deserve another chance to resurrect their careers but for some people they will always be tarnished. Olding's reaction after the trial at least had a bit of dignity.   

Are you for real? If your name was dragged through the mud and this continuous #ibelieveher crowd was berating you, you'd be happy to say nowt and move on with the shit fest that's become of it?

When you are in his shoes you can make that choice, until then he's well within his rights to pick who he wants to sue. They have been waiting on this for two years, not 9 weeks. The BBC leaked who it was even before charges were brought, they are in trouble too

He drug his own name through the mud with his actions.

Having sex with someone? Are you on the wind up?

Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?

eh?

Someone sent off in your game?

At the st Galls game? You'd have been at it, think it was two yellows

I'm very surprised Jackson has chosen to sue, he really isn't doing himself any favours as it is only going to prolong the sage for him. It's probably his way of trying to shut down any negative public commentary on him and by choosing a senator out of the hundreds of negative online comments, he is trying to send out a message to silence the critics.

He has a big job on his hand to try and salvage his career and I don't think that is the way to go about it. I hope that they can be allowed to get on with their lives, they have been found not guilty of a crime and their reaction to it will decide how willing people will be to forgive their actions. For me, they deserve another chance to resurrect their careers but for some people they will always be tarnished. Olding's reaction after the trial at least had a bit of dignity.   

Are you for real? If your name was dragged through the mud and this continuous #ibelieveher crowd was berating you, you'd be happy to say nowt and move on with the shit fest that's become of it?

When you are in his shoes you can make that choice, until then he's well within his rights to pick who he wants to sue. They have been waiting on this for two years, not 9 weeks. The BBC leaked who it was even before charges were brought, they are in trouble too

The one thing that I learned was the physical response to rape. I would have assumed that a girl, in a house full of other people, would scream at least if she was being raped. I am genuinely gobsmacked that this is not the case, and I hold up my hands that I was completely ill informed about that. I thought the fight or flight reflex would kick in.

I could see it in a dark alley type scenario with no one around, but in a busy house? I was very surprised and had my eyes opened on that.

Are you saying she was raped then? Or are you using a different scenario ?

Lads take a break! You two haven't been paid a dime for all this! And you've been trying to defend your practice and continually being questioned!

How many people are innocent that go to court? At this rate there will be protests at every court!

Why have the #ibelieveher crowd not been at those other trials? Not high profile enough

God love the poor craythurs.

With all respect Seanie these people have had the last 8-9 weeks of their lives consumed by this trial. They have had to listen to all the evidence and make a huge decision on the most high profile trial there has been for years. Now they have this decision being questioned significantly and people organising mass rallies....I can see how they might crack. It doesn't mean that the person should have responded but I can understand why they felt the necessity

I think your sympathy is misplaced. They were clearly directed by the judge on this when discharged. Couldn't have been clearer. To go out 7 hours later and engage online with people shows the most amazing lack of judgement I think it's legitimate to question what else this person heard and ignored.

Jesus you clearly are in the TF Seferus mould! It's over the trial was held a decision made, move on. Like you really give a fcuk... thousands of cases nationwide and not a peep. Complete attention seeker

This is s very competitive competition... most teams will fancy themselves here.. Antrim need to put the effort in from the get go, they've no right to win these second tier competitions and have been found out by all of these teams recently!

As for days out in Croke I think the Dublin game was the last time I was watching Antrim in Croke. Stuffed if memory serves me right

Saw a bit on the news there with the #ibelieveher crowd outside Laganside, usual crowd of headers, pink hair "bohemian" types.

The flipping vegans, lgbt, tree huggers are always at it

[I'm no expert though and I would need to do a little research.]

David, do you know if the definition is different in the ROI jurisdiction?

It is as I know it can be committed recklessly in the republic. I would need to check but I also don't think consent is defined in statute although that may have changed in recent years.

I think it's along the lines of a man commits rape if he has intercourse with a person who did not consent and he either knew this or was reckless. I'm no expert though and I would need to do a little research.

No need bud.  We've plenty of experts on here apparently...

Just two it seems.. so I wouldn't take anyone else's view on it as a true reflection of how a court case actually goes to be fair, an opinion (rightly or wrongly is just that) will not persuade most people who have their own agenda, regardless of the facts

Why? I feel that is a very grey area. They were obviously fooling around for him to get close enough to put it in. I feel sorry for him. I can empathise with him

The article you posted explicitly stated that they had clearly agreed, in advance, there would be no unprotected sex. They were fooling around a bit, as you say, and he penetrated her as you say. That is rape, clear as daylight. The fact you don't get that is appalling.

I'll tell you why I have sympathy for him.
It's an example which happened to me a few years ago. I'd been seeing a girl and we broke up, a few weeks later we run into each other, get chatting, I end up back at her place. She says "we're not having sex". We go to bed, one thing leads to the other and we end up having sex. She has never explicitly given consent but it has been implied in the heat of the moment.
She could easily have said the minute we started "Mayo4Sam you're raping me".
I can't be the only one here that has been in this situation or one where you meet a young one out who says "you can come home with me but we're not having sex" only to end up having sex. By the judgement above that's rape

I didn't agree to sex the other night! Sexual assault but not rape

On Facebook (bar here, it's the only social media I do) I'd say there was a good split of men women saying not guilt was the right decision.. if it had have been 50/50 I doubt (my opinion) that would have made any difference on the verdict

Transferring minor success to senior success is harder than you think.. though I've seen enough of this team lately to see good progress.. all about filtering the the young lads into the senior team

I have to say lads in the >200 pages of this thread there has been a awful lot of oul pish posted, but David and BCB have been invaluable and their posts show that you have to sift through a lot the detritus to get that nugget of gold. There's one in the keg for youse. The thread in general shows there is life in the gaaboard after a low key few years.

I'd say BC1 would have that whole keg to himself!