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Mourinho's press conference yesterday   
Only just seen it there this morning.
How could any United fan be happy with him saying that sort of crap.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaZYhTd2BU

Numpty

Yeah that was the time Rafa lost it and bowed to Fergies "mind games", don't think they lost another game after that "meltdown"...........

Some people though struggle with their memory the Laois lad prime example

Mr2 think cj has the timber issue covered

Jesus lad you've some obsession with the Galls lads, was laughing about this last night in the club, some spoofer on a chat room calling someone fat! Brill

Mourinho's press conference yesterday   
Only just seen it there this morning.
How could any United fan be happy with him saying that sort of crap.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaZYhTd2BU

Numpty

Brighton bound to be disappointed they lost that cup tie despite dominating

61% possession but dominated by Brighton?  Seems the only people disappointed are Liverpool fans. Shit match Spurs to win this handy enough going by form

The guys an experienced barrister, it's not his first trial I'm sure he knows what he's doing, now he's well under qualified in this company of course, the legal team here would be 1, the rest bullshit artists.. though BC1 has a good grasp of things

If Ireland keep their discipline and force England into giving away penalties then they should see the game through. If they get dragged into a war then they will lose

Team on Twitter:
C Kerr; P Healy, P Gallagher, N Delargy; K O Boyle, M Sweeney, J Laverty; S Burke P McAleer; M Fitzpatrick, C Murray, P McBride; CJ McGourty, C Duffin, R Murray.

Plenty of fire power there.

Galer won't think so, plenty timber though

https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/974654499016052736

Side splitting  stuff! Up there with Jimmy Cricket

Its the only system they have, had they your system then there would be a lot of innocent people in jail

That's not good enough either. By that logic, an incapable number wrongful convictions and miscarriages of justice over the years could be written off by "it's the best system we have"

I'll put it another way, its the only system we have and that it is done by jury, basing it on the evidence thats been given and not the crap on here. Would you prefer the judge to pass judgement the? W've tried that here and it didnt work

So in your view the legal system is wrong and you have a better way of doing it?

Was it reported that she said she lost her friends in the club but CCTV shows her friend trying to get her to come with them at the end of the night?

[That, of course, is not carte blanche to dismiss any and all opposing views as unworthy of consideration or discourse, the way our esteemed sheep shagging colleague from Roscommon does.]

On the balance of things, I think we'd be a lot worse off as a society if people refrained from speaking their mind on things they clearly have an issue with. If it looks like a duck etc then just f**king call it a duck and don't be afraid to call out anyone protesting otherwise. In my case, I think the dry humping suggestion so laughably implausible that I'm not even going to consider it as a possibility. To my mind, it is a creation of someone who has already decided the lads aren't guilty, or that they don't want them to be guilty, and so has come up with an explanation, no matter how daft, to explain away (in their head) what Dara Florence saw.

That, of course, is not carte blanche to dismiss any and all opposing views as unworthy of consideration or discourse, the way our esteemed sheep shagging colleague from Roscommon does.

Fúck right off.

I dismiss Asal Mor, Orior and MR2 because their views clearly and consistently indicate their prejudices. I have seen all three post long enough to make that call very confidently on this topic. Everyone else I have an issue with (barring the usual troll accounts that infest this place) it's no where near that black and white. You can say some very troubling things out of ignorance but that alone is not the same thing as proudly and unabashedly wearing your predjuices on your sleeve and trying to perpetuate them as some sort of quasi-common sense.

No. A few pages back, AQMP stated (you know, somewhat reasonably) that being stupid wasn't a crime. Your oh so witty retort was "You've covered up for people you were told were rapists?".

You're an embarrassment and it's people like you, on your crusades, who will end up ultimately prejudicing prosecutions and causing justice to fail to be served. You've no interest in justice here, you simply made your mind up from day one. You're simply a mouthpiece and I find it highly amusing for you to give out about someone as behaving "alt-right" when all you do is scream louder and louder every time. You're the Sean Spicer of the board. Fake news indeed.

It was a valid rhetorical question in its context. It's strange you seem to think it's some brilliant gotcha to bring it up as a reply to what I just posted because it's a non-sequitur at best.

I'm not a juror on this trial so I can say whatever I damn well please and it doesn't prejudice anything. I'm not even a citizen of the country the trial is taking place in. Suggesting that me pointing out the pathetic apologist stances of some posters is causing justice to fail is probably a top tier nonsense line in a thread filled to the brim with them.

The old approach of pretending the justice system, particularly for sexual assault and rape cases, is infallible and the arbiter of truth (it only serves that role in a legal sense, which some here would do well to remember is a very narrow description) is far worse than highlighting the inherent biases that female rape victims face.

Its the only system they have, had they your system then there would be a lot of innocent people in jail

I know everything isn't binary but lots of people take that approach to life. Re. the credibility of the defendants - their testimony leaves a lot to be desired but back when I was a younger man I've had nights out where I had a lot less to drink than Olding and I wouldn't be able to fully piece together a night, even if my liberty depended on it. So I'm not surprised their stories are all over the place, which crucially isn't evidence of them being rapists.

When you were younger? I find it harder now to remember nights out!

But I've been to plenty parties over the years and seen a lot of stuff going on that, looking back is very similar to these "modern" parties

I don't get many nights out these days and avoid shorts otherwise I'd be hungover until Wednesday!

A feed of pints followed by a load of vodka and Red Bull and hours would go missing.

I'll indulge tomorrow and god knows what will happen in the club!!!

Wake up Sunday morning as the hurling manager again! fecking nightmare

I know everything isn't binary but lots of people take that approach to life. Re. the credibility of the defendants - their testimony leaves a lot to be desired but back when I was a younger man I've had nights out where I had a lot less to drink than Olding and I wouldn't be able to fully piece together a night, even if my liberty depended on it. So I'm not surprised their stories are all over the place, which crucially isn't evidence of them being rapists.

When you were younger? I find it harder now to remember nights out!

But I've been to plenty parties over the years and seen a lot of stuff going on that, looking back is very similar to these "modern" parties

I reckon he couldnt get it up, very natural thing to happen when youre plastered and was dry humping her, no semen would sugest this, as your normally have some semem of sorts.. I do believe the girl who walked in and seen what she seen, and its her story i believe will actually get the guys off

If you genuinely, and I mean genuinely, believe this, then you are are moron and an idiot.

You dont know, and you weren't there.. id say the chances are very slim to none, but thats what he's said and they are going with that, you'd be a moron to guess what happened on the night and an idiot to suggest otherwise. as none of their stories (IP Defendants) seem convincing

Myself and a few friends recently sat and discussed the whole notion of debate. The whole idea of opinion expressing and how it has changed. The general consensus was that people's opinions have very much gone down the lines of black or white and if you don't agree then you're a 'facist'  a such and such apologist etc etc. This thread is a prime example of that. Politics is a prime example of that and now it's all extreme, one side or the other. Perhaps this girl was raped, perhaps she wasn't. There's only 3-4 people who know the actual truth and their stories all vary. I have an opinion but that's all it is. My opinion also doesn't reflect what I believe the outcome might be as that is going to be determined by 11 other people's opinions.

This thread has really opened my eyes about how some people see the world and it is not nice. It really isn't.

I will tel you this though BC1, if you were to sit down with 95% of the posters on here you'd have a decent debate and there may be an outcome that both of you will agree on (in parts) and there will be a some of it that you will agree to disagree with..

Face to face people are different, a lot of shit is lost when in these places (chat rooms) where most people hide behind a keyboard and say some shit that they wouldnt say to their wife friends or work colleauges, is it what they are really thinking or are they winding people up?

Never judge the reality of life through the disccusion board, I'd never take half the shit on here as being serious

Have went for the Fav in the first, if it's bate, thats me done till the Grand National (thank feck) with horses