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But it's not a lie

Southerners are continually told by a particular breed of northern nationalist, summed up you, that they should have no view on the north

But these same northern nationalists are total hypocrites because they generally have firm views on southern politics

Also if northern nationalists tell southerners they have no right to have a view on anything on the north, which they do, don't then turn around and tell us we "abandoned" you

After all, you're the same people telling us we've no right to have a view - and if that's the case, well then "abandonment" by the south is exactly what you wanted

More hypocrisy

You shouldn't have a view on the north because you haven't a clue about it, not one single iota. All you spout is complete and utter ignorance and bile about something you don't understand or have no practical experience of.

The only hypocrisy being shown here is from you. You're the type of person who would be dangerous if they had any intelligence.

I disagree with a lot of Sid's views, but he also
Makes very fair points , which tend to get undermined by his approach and apparent disdain for what he insultingly terms " a certain breed of northern nationalists" . He argues articulately but his apparent lack of understanding , empathy and rapport indicates a lack of the social intelligence required to be persuasive . Tbf he  is very consistent/persistent but I would agree that his/her views need to be put into the context of lack
Of meaningful personal experience of "The North" . He deserves enormous credit however in uniting "northern nationalists" whether SF, SDLP or whoever else  in opposition to his approach. I understand His opposition to the exclusive and unhealthy adherence to place manifested in nationalism ,  but this is in direct contrast to his unwavering Adherence to Dublin as  an permanent entity in GAA terms. I would agree that his defence of Dublin's ridiculously unfair advantages is like those unionists who begrudgingly resist any movement towards equality , as if they are concessions . Understandable resistance to the nuclear option of splitting Dublin( or in unionists' case United Ireland) is accompanied by an unneighbourly lack
Of generosity towards agreeing to equality and fairness in the meantime.

It's hard not to have disdain for people who shower you with furious disdain merely for pointing out that the PIRA campaign was an abomination, or for pointing out that Margaret Tebbit, the wife of a Tory politician, was horrifically disabled by a bomb planted by PIRA murderers

That's the sort of healthy disdain everybody should have

Not having such leaves one open to supporting more abominations in the future

Very strange comparison of my support for Dublin GAA with blood and soil nationalism

As it happens I am open to the notion of a split in Dublin as long as it is accompanied by amalgamations of other counties

Just out of interest do you condemn loyalist and British army atrocities with the same vigour?

[You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.]

This is the place to see the true colours of our Irish men. Ones that benefit from years of freedom and ones who still are under the rule of London..

All these Tit for tat posts will make good reading

Strange that, the Sinn Fein narrative here lately has been that the PIRA actually attained freedom for their people while the citizens of the Republic simultaneously languish without freedom under Fianna Fail and Fine Gael!

Now the narrative is the opposite!

Yis are fierce confused 

SF or PIRA didn't attain anything, The north is the same place as it was when the south turned its back on it, I think it's you that is confused

I agree they didn't attain anything - except societal devastation

But I haven't been claiming they attained anything - that'd be the Shinners trying to dress up a defeat as a victory

So I'm not sure how you'd think I'm confused

Confusion, I suppose

You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.

Be like me assessing what life would have been like without having my bag searched on way to school house being searched, intimidating work environments, job inequality, no housing, gerrymandering, I  could go on.

Nice sitting in Ivory tower looking down. 

Im not SF nor for violence.

If you believe that, then neither has Sinn Fein's leadership

The majority of the Catholic population of the north apparently had no idea what it was like to live there, given they didn't vote for Sinn Fein and didn't support the IRA

I believe you've no idea, unless you can provide me with your time, you life in the north. Your experience of the north consisted of?

Ah, the old "you don't live here" excuse beloved of the Trump cultists

I wasn't aware you had to live anywhere in particular to know that murdering civilians is wrong, but sure you learn something new every day

The same Shinners and nationalists who wheel out these weasel words are generally the same ones who have extremely strong views on politics in the Republic, but by their own logic they have no right to hold any views on politics in the Republic

Partitionists when it suits them and anti-partitionists when it doesn't 

Some rabbit hole that

Well that's a lie. You have all the hallmarks of a Trumpist.

But it's not a lie

Southerners are continually told by a particular breed of northern nationalist, summed up you, that they should have no view on the north

But these same northern nationalists are total hypocrites because they generally have firm views on southern politics

Also if northern nationalists tell southerners they have no right to have a view on anything on the north, which they do, don't then turn around and tell us we "abandoned" you

After all, you're the same people telling us we've no right to have a view - and if that's the case, well then "abandonment" by the south is exactly what you wanted

More hypocrisy

I believe anyone in Ireland can have a view in any part of the country. It should be an informed view though and not just orepearing things you have read or heard

The problem here is that my opinions are informed and a certain breed of northern nationalist doesn't like that

Hence the arrival of the thought police to threads, and the re-education attempts

You form opinions through reading, hearing, watching and listening, to say otherwise would be to say that nobody here has a right to have an opinion on the Nazis because nobody here has personal experience of being oppressed by them

That would be to say that there should be no such thing as historians

That was maybe worded poorly. Of course that's how you learn and form opinions. I meant by listening to people with skewed agendas and what not. People like RDE. Or not looking into seeing if what you have read/heard has any basis in truth. Note I am not calling you an RDE. FWIW  what it's worth I generally like your posts and agree with a lot of them.

[You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.]

This is the place to see the true colours of our Irish men. Ones that benefit from years of freedom and ones who still are under the rule of London..

All these Tit for tat posts will make good reading

Strange that, the Sinn Fein narrative here lately has been that the PIRA actually attained freedom for their people while the citizens of the Republic simultaneously languish without freedom under Fianna Fail and Fine Gael!

Now the narrative is the opposite!

Yis are fierce confused 

SF or PIRA didn't attain anything, The north is the same place as it was when the south turned its back on it, I think it's you that is confused

I agree they didn't attain anything - except societal devastation

But I haven't been claiming they attained anything - that'd be the Shinners trying to dress up a defeat as a victory

So I'm not sure how you'd think I'm confused

Confusion, I suppose

You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.

Be like me assessing what life would have been like without having my bag searched on way to school house being searched, intimidating work environments, job inequality, no housing, gerrymandering, I  could go on.

Nice sitting in Ivory tower looking down. 

Im not SF nor for violence.

If you believe that, then neither has Sinn Fein's leadership

The majority of the Catholic population of the north apparently had no idea what it was like to live there, given they didn't vote for Sinn Fein and didn't support the IRA

How exactly did you reach that conclusion? Not voting SF or supporting the PIRA/INLA or whoever does not mean they have no idea what it was like to live here

Of course it doesn't, but then again I was basically told I hadn't a clue simply for pointing out that the PIRA campaign achieved nothing except societal devastation

Seems most of the northern Catholic population who lived through the PIRA campaign agreed with me

I would say without the Provos campaign, the brits would not have coke to the negotiating table. That doesn't make everything they done ok or right. And in no way diminished the contributions of great men such as Hume and Mallon.

[You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.]

This is the place to see the true colours of our Irish men. Ones that benefit from years of freedom and ones who still are under the rule of London..

All these Tit for tat posts will make good reading

Strange that, the Sinn Fein narrative here lately has been that the PIRA actually attained freedom for their people while the citizens of the Republic simultaneously languish without freedom under Fianna Fail and Fine Gael!

Now the narrative is the opposite!

Yis are fierce confused 

SF or PIRA didn't attain anything, The north is the same place as it was when the south turned its back on it, I think it's you that is confused

I agree they didn't attain anything - except societal devastation

But I haven't been claiming they attained anything - that'd be the Shinners trying to dress up a defeat as a victory

So I'm not sure how you'd think I'm confused

Confusion, I suppose

You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.

Be like me assessing what life would have been like without having my bag searched on way to school house being searched, intimidating work environments, job inequality, no housing, gerrymandering, I  could go on.

Nice sitting in Ivory tower looking down. 

Im not SF nor for violence.

If you believe that, then neither has Sinn Fein's leadership

The majority of the Catholic population of the north apparently had no idea what it was like to live there, given they didn't vote for Sinn Fein and didn't support the IRA

I believe you've no idea, unless you can provide me with your time, you life in the north. Your experience of the north consisted of?

Ah, the old "you don't live here" excuse beloved of the Trump cultists

I wasn't aware you had to live anywhere in particular to know that murdering civilians is wrong, but sure you learn something new every day

The same Shinners and nationalists who wheel out these weasel words are generally the same ones who have extremely strong views on politics in the Republic, but by their own logic they have no right to hold any views on politics in the Republic

Partitionists when it suits them and anti-partitionists when it doesn't 

Some rabbit hole that

Well that's a lie. You have all the hallmarks of a Trumpist.

But it's not a lie

Southerners are continually told by a particular breed of northern nationalist, summed up you, that they should have no view on the north

But these same northern nationalists are total hypocrites because they generally have firm views on southern politics

Also if northern nationalists tell southerners they have no right to have a view on anything on the north, which they do, don't then turn around and tell us we "abandoned" you

After all, you're the same people telling us we've no right to have a view - and if that's the case, well then "abandonment" by the south is exactly what you wanted

More hypocrisy

I believe anyone in Ireland can have a view in any part of the country. It should be an informed view though and not just orepearing things you have read or heard

[You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.]

This is the place to see the true colours of our Irish men. Ones that benefit from years of freedom and ones who still are under the rule of London..

All these Tit for tat posts will make good reading

Strange that, the Sinn Fein narrative here lately has been that the PIRA actually attained freedom for their people while the citizens of the Republic simultaneously languish without freedom under Fianna Fail and Fine Gael!

Now the narrative is the opposite!

Yis are fierce confused 

SF or PIRA didn't attain anything, The north is the same place as it was when the south turned its back on it, I think it's you that is confused

I agree they didn't attain anything - except societal devastation

But I haven't been claiming they attained anything - that'd be the Shinners trying to dress up a defeat as a victory

So I'm not sure how you'd think I'm confused

Confusion, I suppose

You've literally no idea of life in the north, none, you're assessment is based on living in the south.

Be like me assessing what life would have been like without having my bag searched on way to school house being searched, intimidating work environments, job inequality, no housing, gerrymandering, I  could go on.

Nice sitting in Ivory tower looking down. 

Im not SF nor for violence.

If you believe that, then neither has Sinn Fein's leadership

The majority of the Catholic population of the north apparently had no idea what it was like to live there, given they didn't vote for Sinn Fein and didn't support the IRA

How exactly did you reach that conclusion? Not voting SF or supporting the PIRA/INLA or whoever does not mean they have no idea what it was like to live here

How can anyone have any kind of discussion on the topic when it is compared to human tragedies or shipping African long distance athletes over and teaching them the game?

Agreed. It's sad because the poster who brought up the African athletes was once a very good poster too

McKeevers / GAAstore.com let me down for my Christmas delivery, order placed mid November, numerous promises in the past 3 weeks and then nothing. Wankers.

Jesus not a good start for them in the county jersey game!

Definitely not. That's very poor from them. Nothing at all from them Benny?

[Leenon seems to be 'resting' Brown today, in order to play him V Rangers]

We really need hibs to score here! 15mins to go

I think Celtic have to win at Ibrox - that's the only result that matters now.  Leenon seems to be 'resting' Brown today, in order to play him V Rangers.

Another changed line up today it seems, Bitton at the back along with Ajer at centre back. Now two up front.

How are the players getting any consistency with Lennon chopping and changing every single game.

You don't know this and have fabricated this up, maybe he just prefers Soro. Bitton is in because Jullien has a knee injury. I thought you would have worked that out when he wasn't named in the squad

Doesn't suit the narrative

Peter will instruct Lenny to play Eduoard, simply because if he is trying to offload him for even £10m, no club will want him if he cant get game time at struggling Celtic. Classic Chicken v Egg situation at play. And of course Peters annual bonus will be riding on it!

It's a major problem if we have a manager who selects the team on the CEO's say so. A proper manager would tell a suit to get to f**k when it comes to selection choices.

But, just because some guy on the Internet says it doesn't mean it's true.

The Lennon Loyal out again in force.

I'd like to see Lennon gone. I'm certainly not a Lennon loyal but it just goes to show your mindset in this

Peter will instruct Lenny to play Eduoard, simply because if he is trying to offload him for even £10m, no club will want him if he cant get game time at struggling Celtic. Classic Chicken v Egg situation at play. And of course Peters annual bonus will be riding on it!

It's a major problem if we have a manager who selects the team on the CEO's say so. A proper manager would tell a suit to get to f**k when it comes to selection choices.

But, just because some guy on the Internet says it doesn't mean it's true.

In the last few months Angelo has said Cillian wouldn't make the Armagh forward line and Darren Mccurry would score the same amount if he was from Mayo.

Do you still stand over this or can you finally admit to being wrong?

I'd love OConnor in the Armagh forward line

The Lennon Loyal embarrassing themselves here. They would happily see the club burned to the ground as long as their boy gets his bit.

Needing penalties against a team a division below is embarrassing. He fucked it up again today by bringing Brown, he was completely overran and is finished at any decent level.

Celtic are a shambles.

We WON the SC yesterday to complete the quadruple treble. Celebrating that does not mean you automatically back NL to remain as manager.
I'd rather we won the cup AND had a different manager but I still would prefer to win the cup even if it means Lennon being the one to achieve it.

We did, via a penalty shootout against a team who are in the Scottish Championship, conceding 3 goals, twice sacrificing leads, generally looking shambolic and one in which we were extremely lucky to win.

And that's further reason why Lennon has to go. He restored his misfiring captain into the team and we were overran in midfield. We put in two solid performances and he reverted to sentiment and we were utterly shambolic again.

That level of performance is going to lead to more dropped points.

He needs to go and needs to go ASAP.

We did. That's all you needed to say. The opposition doesn't matter. The score line doesn't matter and how we won it doesn't matter. And brown played well. Your blind to that fact. And Lennon should still go

The problem was people oh ignoring the desperate Celtic performances which have been happening for far too long under Celtic. The performances do matter as you cant keep getting away with playing badly and that's what happened with Celtic.

The performance in a final doesn't matter. Only the result. Does anyone remember how shit we played in the 2007 final? No. Only that we won.
Celtic haven't been getting away with being crap this year. That's why we are so far behind.

Idiotic statement. Performances matter otherwise you are relying on luck. Good managers don't rely on luck. Celtic are a shambles under Neil Lennon, another get of jail card in a shambolic season.

Will people remember how shit we played in the 2021 season? Yes because we fucked away 10IAR, got humbled by a mediocre Hungarian outfit in the CL, finished bottom of our EL group with the worst defensive record in the competition and knocked out by Ross County at home in the League Cup.

Nah. Not an idiotic statement at all. People will only remember that we won and that it clinched us a historic quadruple treble. Your second paragraph I can't argue with.

The Lennon Loyal embarrassing themselves here. They would happily see the club burned to the ground as long as their boy gets his bit.

Needing penalties against a team a division below is embarrassing. He fucked it up again today by bringing Brown, he was completely overran and is finished at any decent level.

Celtic are a shambles.

We WON the SC yesterday to complete the quadruple treble. Celebrating that does not mean you automatically back NL to remain as manager.
I'd rather we won the cup AND had a different manager but I still would prefer to win the cup even if it means Lennon being the one to achieve it.

We did, via a penalty shootout against a team who are in the Scottish Championship, conceding 3 goals, twice sacrificing leads, generally looking shambolic and one in which we were extremely lucky to win.

And that's further reason why Lennon has to go. He restored his misfiring captain into the team and we were overran in midfield. We put in two solid performances and he reverted to sentiment and we were utterly shambolic again.

That level of performance is going to lead to more dropped points.

He needs to go and needs to go ASAP.

We did. That's all you needed to say. The opposition doesn't matter. The score line doesn't matter and how we won it doesn't matter. And brown played well. Your blind to that fact. And Lennon should still go

The problem was people oh ignoring the desperate Celtic performances which have been happening for far too long under Celtic. The performances do matter as you cant keep getting away with playing badly and that's what happened with Celtic.

The performance in a final doesn't matter. Only the result. Does anyone remember how shit we played in the 2007 final? No. Only that we won.
Celtic haven't been getting away with being crap this year. That's why we are so far behind.

The Lennon Loyal embarrassing themselves here. They would happily see the club burned to the ground as long as their boy gets his bit.

Needing penalties against a team a division below is embarrassing. He fucked it up again today by bringing Brown, he was completely overran and is finished at any decent level.

Celtic are a shambles.

We WON the SC yesterday to complete the quadruple treble. Celebrating that does not mean you automatically back NL to remain as manager.
I'd rather we won the cup AND had a different manager but I still would prefer to win the cup even if it means Lennon being the one to achieve it.

We did, via a penalty shootout against a team who are in the Scottish Championship, conceding 3 goals, twice sacrificing leads, generally looking shambolic and one in which we were extremely lucky to win.

And that's further reason why Lennon has to go. He restored his misfiring captain into the team and we were overran in midfield. We put in two solid performances and he reverted to sentiment and we were utterly shambolic again.

That level of performance is going to lead to more dropped points.

He needs to go and needs to go ASAP.

We did. That's all you needed to say. The opposition doesn't matter. The score line doesn't matter and how we won it doesn't matter. And brown played well. Your blind to that fact. And Lennon should still go

Canelo is a beast

That's what happens when you eat a lot of contaminated beef!!

He is a phenomenal boxer but y'know what's the point??!!

You're missing my point here. Most people who come back from bans or failed tests always have it referred to. Not so with Canelo. FWIW I think he is a brilliant boxer and deserves the P4P accolades

Barring Bellew I haven't seen anyone refer to this

He served a drugs ban ffs! The second GGG fight was delayed because of it.