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#1666
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 08:59:16 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 06, 2016, 08:51:37 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 08:36:38 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 08:30:02 PM
Yeah they play in the high profile O'Fiaich Cup instead, ::)

That's a competition.

I wouldn't be getting worked up over winning one in any case.

It's about context and the rugby fellas are getting worked up about winning a friendly and becoming hypersensitive when this pointed out.

There is absolutely nobody in this world who enjoys it being pointed out that their hobbies and interests aren't as enjoyableor as exciting as they want to believe.

You for example would probably be distraught / angry if someone pointed out to you that from both a financial and personal excellence (after all, being among the top 1,000 players worldwide in soccer  is statistically an unbelievable achievement) point of view, every athletic male in Co. Tyrone should aspire to be the next Niall McGinn, not the next Peter Canavan.

So do everyone a favour please and retire to your cave.

I will not be censured because some people want to live in a bubble.
#1667
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 06, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Ireland beating Germany was not a fluke.

Who? I don't remember Ireland beating Germany recently in anything? Have they played in cricket or hockey?

I remember the Republic of Ireland team representing the quarters of the country won some game and it was apparently a big deal.

James McClean begs to differ.

If you want to stand under the tricolour and sing Amhran na BhFiann, you can.
#1668
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Quote from: michaelg on November 06, 2016, 08:42:27 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 08:36:38 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 08:30:02 PM
Yeah they play in the high profile O'Fiaich Cup instead, ::)

That's a competition.

I wouldn't be getting worked up over winning one in any case.

It's about context and the rugby fellas are getting worked up about winning a friendly and becoming hypersensitive when this pointed out.
How come you don't refer to the ROI soccer team as the West British soccer team?

They don't line out under a bastardised flag and belt out a pub song written by the son of a peeler.
#1669
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 08:36:38 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 08:30:02 PM
Yeah they play in the high profile O'Fiaich Cup instead, ::)

That's a competition.

I wouldn't be getting worked up over winning one in any case.

It's about context and the rugby fellas are getting worked up about winning a friendly and becoming hypersensitive when this pointed out.
#1670
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 08:21:33 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 06, 2016, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 06, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
November test Internationals, played every year. Southern Hemisphere teams play 3 tests against the Northern Hemisphere teams.

Northern hemisphere teams tour the Southern hemisphere during the summer. Pretty rare a team from the South is beaten on home soil

What competition is it?

Are you incapable of reading?

I'm capable of reading alright but that's not a competition.

Now what competition did the West British rugby team win a game in yesterday?

Your republican and the true Gael credentials have been boosted greatly by your valiant and patriotic use of the term 'West British rugby team'. Pearse would be proud, as 100 years after his death people still rail against the scoundrels he wrote about in Mise Éire by rubbishing the achievements of a 32 county sports team.

I'm sure his heart would be filled with joy listening to a pub song written by the son of a peeler being used instead of the national anthem in a game played almost solely by ex commonwealth nations.

I hate that piece of rubbish myself but it's not a valid reason to completely rubbish the achievements of the team. The game clearly has importance, it's hardly a club pre-season challenge match on a wet February evening.

It's not far off.

It's only a match and nothing more which is why I can't understand the fuss over the result.

Ach dry your eyes ffs. Ask the wife / husband / partner for a bit of attention and stay clear of a thread you've no interest in.  Job done

I'm just pointing out a few truths.

More in line for certain posters to take these points on board rather than being hypersensitive over someone dealing with the realities.

How many GAA counties take Gaelic football seriously? At a push 7 or 8. Doesn't stop you from having an opinion on Tyrone. I'd say your dislike from rugby probably comes from sheer bigotry. Though you do seem to know a bit going by your posts. Maybe you should crawl back under your rock!

Tyrone don't play challenge matches, mate. No chance of me being conflicted there!
#1671
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

The nature of soccer means that an inferior team can occasionally beat a much better team which is what happened when ireland luckily beat germany. It was a freak result with ireland having very little of the ball and their goal leading a charmed life. The difference with this result is that we beat the world champions in a test match and it wasn't a fluke. Ireland's stats re possession, tackling, turnovers etc were all up there and better in most cases with new zealands. This was truly a performance and victory to be proud of.

Ireland beating Germany was not a fluke.

You're a strange one, belittling competitive wins of a substantive nature in a global sport yet putting a win in a non-competitive fixture over one of the other participants in a niche sports as one of the nation's greatest sporting achievements.

I presume you then think of hurling as a niche sport as only about 8 teams really take it seriously and are competitive at it.

I do.
#1672
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

The nature of soccer means that an inferior team can occasionally beat a much better team which is what happened when ireland luckily beat germany. It was a freak result with ireland having very little of the ball and their goal leading a charmed life. The difference with this result is that we beat the world champions in a test match and it wasn't a fluke. Ireland's stats re possession, tackling, turnovers etc were all up there and better in most cases with new zealands. This was truly a performance and victory to be proud of.

Ireland beating Germany was not a fluke.

You're a strange one, belittling competitive wins of a substantive nature in a global sport yet putting a win in a non-competitive fixture over one of the other participants in a niche sports as one of the nation's greatest sporting achievements.
#1673
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

You also have to qualify for the RWC. It's decided by world ranking for the most part. Guess how rankings are decided? Test matches such as the November Internationals.

Football rankings are decided by friendly matches too. The problem rugby has is it is a niche sport, pretty much only taken seriously by commonwealth and ex-commonwealth countries and France.

Yesterday's match was a non-competitive match, a  "friendly".
#1674
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 06:51:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 06, 2016, 06:42:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 06, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
November test Internationals, played every year. Southern Hemisphere teams play 3 tests against the Northern Hemisphere teams.

Northern hemisphere teams tour the Southern hemisphere during the summer. Pretty rare a team from the South is beaten on home soil

What competition is it?

Are you incapable of reading?

I'm capable of reading alright but that's not a competition.

Now what competition did the West British rugby team win a game in yesterday?

Your republican and the true Gael credentials have been boosted greatly by your valiant and patriotic use of the term 'West British rugby team'. Pearse would be proud, as 100 years after his death people still rail against the scoundrels he wrote about in Mise Éire by rubbishing the achievements of a 32 county sports team.

I'm sure his heart would be filled with joy listening to a pub song written by the son of a peeler being used instead of the national anthem in a game played almost solely by ex commonwealth nations.

I hate that piece of rubbish myself but it's not a valid reason to completely rubbish the achievements of the team. The game clearly has importance, it's hardly a club pre-season challenge match on a wet February evening.

It's not far off.

It's only a match and nothing more which is why I can't understand the fuss over the result.

Ach dry your eyes ffs. Ask the wife / husband / partner for a bit of attention and stay clear of a thread you've no interest in.  Job done

I'm just pointing out a few truths.

More in line for certain posters to take these points on board rather than being hypersensitive over someone dealing with the realities.

No no,  your 'truths'  are merely opinions.  You are trolling for a reaction and getting it,  then moaning about getting said reaction.  Mid manopause per chance?
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They are not opinions, they are facts which is why nobody has yet been able to clarify what competition the rugby team won a game in last night. It's fine if it made you happy but don't be getting offended when the realities of the situation diminish the actual achievement.
#1675
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.
#1676
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

Why you getting so wound up about it for? You seem awfully annoyed at a sport you don't like. I don't like cricket or hurling or golf so I don't really pay that much remarks on what's happening in those sports.

The contrary. I'm merely pointing out the realities of the matter and people are getting very hot under the collar about putting the contrived "achievements" into perspective. The rugby side won a friendly match.
#1677
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 06, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
November test Internationals, played every year. Southern Hemisphere teams play 3 tests against the Northern Hemisphere teams.

Northern hemisphere teams tour the Southern hemisphere during the summer. Pretty rare a team from the South is beaten on home soil

What competition is it?

Are you incapable of reading?

I'm capable of reading alright but that's not a competition.

Now what competition did the West British rugby team win a game in yesterday?

Your republican and the true Gael credentials have been boosted greatly by your valiant and patriotic use of the term 'West British rugby team'. Pearse would be proud, as 100 years after his death people still rail against the scoundrels he wrote about in Mise Éire by rubbishing the achievements of a 32 county sports team.

I'm sure his heart would be filled with joy listening to a pub song written by the son of a peeler being used instead of the national anthem in a game played almost solely by ex commonwealth nations.

I hate that piece of rubbish myself but it's not a valid reason to completely rubbish the achievements of the team. The game clearly has importance, it's hardly a club pre-season challenge match on a wet February evening.

It's not far off.

It's only a match and nothing more which is why I can't understand the fuss over the result.

Ach dry your eyes ffs. Ask the wife / husband / partner for a bit of attention and stay clear of a thread you've no interest in.  Job done

I'm just pointing out a few truths.

More in line for certain posters to take these points on board rather than being hypersensitive over someone dealing with the realities.
#1678
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.
#1679
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2016
November 06, 2016, 06:26:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 06, 2016, 05:48:27 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 06, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 06, 2016, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 06, 2016, 12:37:15 PM
Who cheated though?

Mitchels and Salthill cheated designating training pitches at McHale and Pearse as their home grounds. Prenty allowing the same just because it suits his bank balance to let Mitchels and Salthill play at home is flagrant cheating too.

He enacted a rule that has only ever been applied to a single club in Connacht. What a joke.

Maybe a current Mitchels member can verify, but I thought Mitchels played all their home games in Josie Munnelly Park not McHale Park.  That's what the "training pitch" is called. We used to call it the top pitch

The Mitchels website even has McHale Park as their home ground. It's just rounding the intention of the rule whatever way you cut it..

It was supposedly Brigids' fault the Corofin yobs were allowed to get to ref after the 2011 final in Kiltoom, even though it was CC stewards who failed to stop it happening as they were in control of the venue, ticketing et al.

It was a non-issue Prenty is using to beat Brigids and Brigids alone with now. Mitchels playing Corofin at McHale the same weekend Brigids have to trek to Carrick has put a spotlight on the Prenty Council's behaviour yet again. It's hard for anyone to say there's any fairness emanating from Bekan any more even if you were Willie Joe over on MayoGAABlog.

Even your lies are lies.

#1680
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
November 06, 2016, 06:22:35 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:18:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
November test Internationals, played every year. Southern Hemisphere teams play 3 tests against the Northern Hemisphere teams.

Northern hemisphere teams tour the Southern hemisphere during the summer. Pretty rare a team from the South is beaten on home soil

What competition is it?

It was a test match. That's the beauty of international rugby, every test match is an event in itself. It isn't so insecure that it needs to be a "competition". These matches have been going on for over 100 years so they have that historical context and everyone who is interested is aware of their importance. You have obviously chosen to ignore that context and haven't developed an interest and that's fair enough. Most Irish sports people were enthralled and exhilarated watching the game last night given that we had just beaten arguably the greatest sports team ever after 111 years of trying.

An irrelevant answer to the question put forward.

What competition was it in? There seems to be an opposition to call the game for the non-competitive event that it was.

That's a completely irrelevant response to my perfectly relevant answer.

Your answer is irrelevant as I enquired about what competition it was part of and you responded with a meandering waffle about some non-competition without addressing the question?

What competition was it in or was it in fact a non-competitive game?