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All Ireland odds

Kerry 11/8                                                      
Dublin 4/1                                                      
Cork 7/1                                                      
Galway 7/1                                                      
Mayo 7/1                                                      
Donegal 8/1                                                      
Kildare 10/1                                                      
Tyrone 10/1                                                      
Armagh 20/1                                                      
Roscommon 20/1                                                      
Derry 25/1                                                      
Offaly 33/1                                                      
Cavan 40/1                                                      
Monaghan 50/1                                                
Sligo 50/1                                                      
Tipperary 50/1                                                      
Laois 66/1                                                      
Westmeath 66/1                                                      
Wexford 66/1                                                      
Longford 80/1                                                      
Clare 100/1                                                      
Limerick 100/1                                                      
Louth 125/1                                                      
Down 250/1                                                      
Leitrim 500/1                                                      
Antrim 750/1                                                      
Fermanagh 750/1                                                      
Waterford 1000/1                                                      
Wicklow 1000/1

Jaysis, Meath must be awful shite if they haven't even been given odds!

Ehhhh, yeah.

What the odds do show of course is the utter lunacy of the provincial system. Westmeath are roughly at a similar level to Roscommon I think it's fair to assume. Westmeath have already beaten Meath but yet are more than 3 times less likely than Ros (who haven't played a game yet) to win the All-Ireland. Obviously neither are going to win the All-Ireland, but it's just something that jumped out at me.

Obviously.

Whatever about senior, envenitability is not something that exsists at underage, thankfully.

Do you mean inevitability?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 12:04:54 AM »
Wow!!

1. Not a panel statement , wonder what his teammates and harte will feel about it?
2. Jordan is finished. No way back from this for her. Relations with club tyrone will be graded
Reflects poorly on the county, the true cost of garvaghy ? Lots to ponder

Tyrone spent £412,000 on County Teams last year. You're saying that she's finished because she suggested they contribute just £15 towards all of the kit, physio, food etc. that they receive?

Doesn't seem to happen in other counties who spend about triple what Tyrone spend on their teams.

I would almost guarantee that she didn't ask them to pay any money. Seems suspicious that an anonymous Tyrone player would send an email to a Dublin based radio station. I hadn't heard of Newstalk before this so it's seems odd that a Tyrone player would contact them when trying to spread this message.

You think it's fake news?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 23, 2017, 11:09:54 PM »
Wow!!

1. Not a panel statement , wonder what his teammates and harte will feel about it?
2. Jordan is finished. No way back from this for her. Relations with club tyrone will be graded
Reflects poorly on the county, the true cost of garvaghy ? Lots to ponder

Tyrone spent £412,000 on County Teams last year. You're saying that she's finished because she suggested they contribute just £15 towards all of the kit, physio, food etc. that they receive?

Doesn't seem to happen in other counties who spend about triple what Tyrone spend on their teams.

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Mattie will start I'd imagine.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 22, 2017, 10:15:09 PM »
What's the view on Ronan McHugh, lads?

Is he simply there to make up the numbers or is he generally capable of pushing the likes of Bradley, O'Neill and McCurry? He seemed to score fairly well during the pre season games.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 21, 2017, 11:53:27 PM »
Ritchie Donnelly out for rest of league with a fractured vertebrae. A real pity as I thought he'd make a big impact this year. Hard to see him get much game time come championship considering the wealth of options in the middle 8.

A blow for him, did very well last year before injury ruled him out. He's a good man to chip in with a few points as well and kick off both feet so hopefully he can work his way back in but if he can't this year then it bodes well on those with the jersey right now.

Would like to see Conall McCann see some more time this year, from what I've seen with him from club action this year and in Sigerson, he really looks to have kicked on. He's got a nice bit of class about him as a footballer as well as being a big lad who can throw his size about.

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General discussion / Re: European Leagues.
« on: February 21, 2017, 09:41:02 PM »
The beautiful game.

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland U21 football championship 2017
« on: February 21, 2017, 05:44:07 PM »
Armagh, Derry and Monaghan should be decent this year as well.

Would Derry have many u21s involved with Slaughtneil? McGuigan would certainly be a starter for Derry.

All the talk last year was of Tyrone and Donegal and in the end it was Monaghan who won it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone. 11/02/17. Croke Park, Dublin.
« on: February 21, 2017, 05:42:05 PM »

This particular Tyrone side have only been around the guts of 2 years.

McShane, Bradley, Meyler, C McCann, McNulty, R Donnelly, R Brennan all debuted in 2015.

Sludden, K McGeary, Munroe, Burns, L Brennan, Hampsey made their debuts in 2016.

The likes of McCann, McNamee and McNabb only really became regulars in 2015 too.

So it's very premature to write them off as the bulk of the side are only on the road a couple of years and have plenty of scope and time to improve.

And we do not know how they will do against Dublin come the championship in summer, despite your protestations otherwise. There is no formline there where as there is with Kerry and Mayo the known vs the unknown.

No, but I can make a pretty educated guess, based on the fact that they have not been able to beat the 2 counties, that Dublin beat every year, of late. I am not protesting anything, nor am I writing anyone off. I am merely going on the factual evidence from the scoreboard at the end of championship games in Croke Park. If Tyrone meet Dublin this year and they beat them, then fair play to them, but there is no great mystery as to why they haven't played each other yet in the championship - Tyrone just haven't been good enough to make it that far. To date. Maybe that will change this summer. Who knows really?

There is no factual evidence when it comes to Tyrone v Dublin in Championship.

It's the known vs the unknown, we can revert back to factual evidence when it comes to Mayo and Kerry in this regard.

There is no "factual evidence" on how Leitrim, New York or Antrim get on against Dublin either. So I am not rushing to give anyone a free pass to greatness, just because of this factual lack of evidence, Your Honour.

Not really like for like, Tyrone are a genuine top 4 side and they have caused Dublin problems in their league meetings.

You seem very defensive on the proposition that Tyrone might be the best equipped team to take Dublin.

We know there are three credible threats to Dublin. It's known come championship that Kerry and Dublin have come up short in recent years, it's unknown whether Tyrone would or wouldn't. You seem to trying to validate the unknown as known for some bizarre reason.

Are Tyrone a genuine top 4 side?

Yes.

Based on what?
Quarter final last year.
Well beat in semi final the year before
Beat in round 2B in 2014
Doesn't really shout genuine too 4 team to me

You have a bizarre logic of well beaten. I have much more regret about the Kerry defeat in 2015 than the Mayo defeat last year, I think we got what we deserved last year although it could easily have been different but I think Mayo were the slightly better team on the day. In 2015 we had a plethora of chances, passed up about 4 goals, had McNamee wrongly black carded, Kerry had Enright stay on the pitch after a blatant black card offence, missed a host of frees, should have had a penalty near the end and the game was level with about 6 minutes to go. That was a game we absolutely should have won but left it behind, we opened Kerry at will but just weren't clinical enough.

It's pointless comparing the Tyrone side of 2014 to that of 2015 and 2016. The personnel has vastly changed, O'Neill, Gormley, Penrose, Donnelly, the 2 McKennas, Lavery, Cassidy, Coney, McGuigan, Quinn, McGinley and a few more were all gone off the panel after 2014. They squad saw major upheaval and a completely different focus on the style of football deployed. I think it shows the fear you have of what Tyrone could do when you are giving such disingenuous narratives of matters.

I will savour you fear.

My fear of what?

Tyrone winning the AI this year.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone. 11/02/17. Croke Park, Dublin.
« on: February 21, 2017, 12:59:12 AM »

This particular Tyrone side have only been around the guts of 2 years.

McShane, Bradley, Meyler, C McCann, McNulty, R Donnelly, R Brennan all debuted in 2015.

Sludden, K McGeary, Munroe, Burns, L Brennan, Hampsey made their debuts in 2016.

The likes of McCann, McNamee and McNabb only really became regulars in 2015 too.

So it's very premature to write them off as the bulk of the side are only on the road a couple of years and have plenty of scope and time to improve.

And we do not know how they will do against Dublin come the championship in summer, despite your protestations otherwise. There is no formline there where as there is with Kerry and Mayo the known vs the unknown.

No, but I can make a pretty educated guess, based on the fact that they have not been able to beat the 2 counties, that Dublin beat every year, of late. I am not protesting anything, nor am I writing anyone off. I am merely going on the factual evidence from the scoreboard at the end of championship games in Croke Park. If Tyrone meet Dublin this year and they beat them, then fair play to them, but there is no great mystery as to why they haven't played each other yet in the championship - Tyrone just haven't been good enough to make it that far. To date. Maybe that will change this summer. Who knows really?

There is no factual evidence when it comes to Tyrone v Dublin in Championship.

It's the known vs the unknown, we can revert back to factual evidence when it comes to Mayo and Kerry in this regard.

There is no "factual evidence" on how Leitrim, New York or Antrim get on against Dublin either. So I am not rushing to give anyone a free pass to greatness, just because of this factual lack of evidence, Your Honour.

Not really like for like, Tyrone are a genuine top 4 side and they have caused Dublin problems in their league meetings.

You seem very defensive on the proposition that Tyrone might be the best equipped team to take Dublin.

We know there are three credible threats to Dublin. It's known come championship that Kerry and Dublin have come up short in recent years, it's unknown whether Tyrone would or wouldn't. You seem to trying to validate the unknown as known for some bizarre reason.

Are Tyrone a genuine top 4 side?

Yes.

Based on what?
Quarter final last year.
Well beat in semi final the year before
Beat in round 2B in 2014
Doesn't really shout genuine too 4 team to me

You have a bizarre logic of well beaten. I have much more regret about the Kerry defeat in 2015 than the Mayo defeat last year, I think we got what we deserved last year although it could easily have been different but I think Mayo were the slightly better team on the day. In 2015 we had a plethora of chances, passed up about 4 goals, had McNamee wrongly black carded, Kerry had Enright stay on the pitch after a blatant black card offence, missed a host of frees, should have had a penalty near the end and the game was level with about 6 minutes to go. That was a game we absolutely should have won but left it behind, we opened Kerry at will but just weren't clinical enough.

It's pointless comparing the Tyrone side of 2014 to that of 2015 and 2016. The personnel has vastly changed, O'Neill, Gormley, Penrose, Donnelly, the 2 McKennas, Lavery, Cassidy, Coney, McGuigan, Quinn, McGinley and a few more were all gone off the panel after 2014. They squad saw major upheaval and a completely different focus on the style of football deployed. I think it shows the fear you have of what Tyrone could do when you are giving such disingenuous narratives of matters.

I will savour you fear.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone. 11/02/17. Croke Park, Dublin.
« on: February 20, 2017, 10:36:13 PM »
Jesus, top 2, top 3, top 4, top 5....who cares? It's like two bald men arguing over a comb. At the end of the year, you are either the All Ireland champions, the best team in the country....or you're not. If you're not, you are just making up the numbers. That's all.


An odd departure from you given that you have spent the past few pages defending the order of merit when it comes to challenging Dublin.

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GAA Discussion / Big Neil Gallagher
« on: February 20, 2017, 08:47:36 PM »
Has called it a day.

A massive part of Donegal's success in the last 7/8 years.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 19, 2017, 10:19:16 PM »
I know the difference between 5-12 are very subtle these days but I think Meyler would be better utilised as a wing back, breaking forward from deeper. He has some engine on him, he was absolutely everywhere yesterday.

A middle 8 of this would be quite formidable:

McCann----------Justy-------------Meyler

----------Cavanagh----McClure

Donnelly----------Sludden------------Harte

6 is a spot which is very much up for grabs. I think we have plenty of options here, I like Justy in this side as he is our best defender in dealing with aerial bombardments and he brings great fight to the side and I think this rubs off positively to the rest of the side. He'll also be more inclined to sit and protect the middle which I like as we have enough lads who will break at pace. Brennan and Burns I think are two other great options for 6. I'd like to see Burns get some time there during the league.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Sigerson 2017
« on: February 19, 2017, 10:07:27 PM »
Why don't any of those lads in that picture appear to be breathing? Don't people usually breathe?

It's a still photo.

You can breathe through your nose.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone. 11/02/17. Croke Park, Dublin.
« on: February 19, 2017, 09:53:28 PM »

This particular Tyrone side have only been around the guts of 2 years.

McShane, Bradley, Meyler, C McCann, McNulty, R Donnelly, R Brennan all debuted in 2015.

Sludden, K McGeary, Munroe, Burns, L Brennan, Hampsey made their debuts in 2016.

The likes of McCann, McNamee and McNabb only really became regulars in 2015 too.

So it's very premature to write them off as the bulk of the side are only on the road a couple of years and have plenty of scope and time to improve.

And we do not know how they will do against Dublin come the championship in summer, despite your protestations otherwise. There is no formline there where as there is with Kerry and Mayo the known vs the unknown.

No, but I can make a pretty educated guess, based on the fact that they have not been able to beat the 2 counties, that Dublin beat every year, of late. I am not protesting anything, nor am I writing anyone off. I am merely going on the factual evidence from the scoreboard at the end of championship games in Croke Park. If Tyrone meet Dublin this year and they beat them, then fair play to them, but there is no great mystery as to why they haven't played each other yet in the championship - Tyrone just haven't been good enough to make it that far. To date. Maybe that will change this summer. Who knows really?

There is no factual evidence when it comes to Tyrone v Dublin in Championship.

It's the known vs the unknown, we can revert back to factual evidence when it comes to Mayo and Kerry in this regard.

There is no "factual evidence" on how Leitrim, New York or Antrim get on against Dublin either. So I am not rushing to give anyone a free pass to greatness, just because of this factual lack of evidence, Your Honour.

Not really like for like, Tyrone are a genuine top 4 side and they have caused Dublin problems in their league meetings.

You seem very defensive on the proposition that Tyrone might be the best equipped team to take Dublin.

We know there are three credible threats to Dublin. It's known come championship that Kerry and Dublin have come up short in recent years, it's unknown whether Tyrone would or wouldn't. You seem to trying to validate the unknown as known for some bizarre reason.

Are Tyrone a genuine top 4 side?

Yes.

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