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I assume syphilis has similar opinions on founders of all political parties in Ireland? All founded with the gun, all unapologetic for it. Another stupid post.

Apples and oranges, as always some wish that 1916 is easily mappable to 1986 but sadly it doesn’t. There’s a reason Dev and Collins left SF and the IRA behind.

Why did Collins leave them? To take his place as a British Military general and turn British artillery on his former comrades in the Four Courts?

Why did DeValera leave it? To step down from office with his state a decrepid third world hovel but his personal account immensely wealthy?

Both left the IRA with blood on their hands, at least in the defence of Collins you can say he didn't have any time to shape his legacy. What we know about DeValera was that all the blood he has on his hands were self-serving.

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I know I shouldn't also but should FF be in a position to be the senior partner in a majority coalition government with SF after the next election, I think discussions about the politics and morality of the use of the gun in the recent war v all the forces that supported the planters, will conveniently be put on the back burner.

MM has already said he's not going to go into government with SF. The political damage for going against the will of the people and his own words would literally end his political career. Try again.

Syferus, you generally make a lot of good posts. However I feel you need to have lived in the north before making comments like you did earlier.
Growing up in the 70s & 80s, Catholics were 2nd Class citizens. That has now changed and whether we like it or not, it was people like Martin McGuiness that dragged us to where we are today.

McGuiness dragged Ireland backwards before he took a step forward. He can be commended for being more honest than Adams in his IRA role and trying his best to make amends in his later years but it's people like John Hume who never took up the gun that are the real heroes of the north.

SF over-taking the more reasonable nationalist parties in the north was something that set back the north in many ways. The two main unionist and republican parties now are both born of insular extremism. That is never the way forward for anything.

Hume endorsed the jailing of nationalists without cause or trial. John Hume is the poster boy for free staters, for people who have absolutely no idea about the brutality of the British regime on the nationalists in the North.

If ever a poster could have done with a spell under the Brits in Occupied Ulster, it would have been you.

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If after the next election  we have FF and FG with about 50 seats each and SF with 30-35........
Syfīn needs to read up on the history of the 6 Cos prior to 1971.

When FF propping up an FG government is preferable to both parties in lieu of dealing with SF you have your answer what will happen. You could do with reading up on your recent history rather than suggesting others do so.

SF are nailed on to lose seats with an ever-improving economy and someone as unsuitable and disliked as Mary Lou at the helm. This is the woman who was thrown out of the Dail a few weeks ago ffs. They are and will remain toxic to transfers.

Labour will hopefully hoover up enough of the votes from the independents and left-leaning voters departing SF to form a government with FG.

The less said about the drunken scrawl on the back of a napkin that was SF’s bailout and giveaway policies at the last two elections the better.

Syferus was all for the sectarian murder of Protestants down in Cork in the 1920s and the murder of RIC officers and civilians by Republicans during the War of Independence. Most free staters seem to be of the opinion that murder and violence was OK so that they could have their own freedom but were quite happy to stand idly by and watch a pogrom taking place 50 years later across the border, subsequently wringing their hands and screaming when the persecuted community had the temerity to stand up for themselves when nobody else would. That's what it all boils down to, sadly.

History will remember Martin McGuinness very fondly, it will remember his courage, sacrifice and selflessness - a life devoted to the betterment of his community.


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Your foot and hip have been fecked, like hell are you 100% Lee. Hip injuries are just something you manage, you never get back the same again even in the best case scenario.

The MS stuff is disgusting, though.

Didn't seem to curtail him too much in last year's AI final?

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GAA Discussion / Re: International rules
« on: November 19, 2017, 10:27:42 PM »
I really doubt there is any significant financial cost. Ultimately they persist so there is obviously value for money there.

It's not as if the AFL is the English Premier League. There's not a limitless pool of money and the success rate of GAA player in AFL is pretty poor to be honest.

Why are you arguing something that is clearly wrong? AFL teams have money and they, unlike you, will have all the facts and figures as well so if they are continuing to invest in Irish players they obviously feel they are getting a worthwhile return. The success rate of Irish players is surely quite high?

They don't have THAT much money?

It's an niche sport in a country that does not have a gigantic population and has plenty of competition within sport. I just don't think they're pillaging of GAA for talent has had much success from their end. If I was a footballer from Dublin or Kerry I think pursuing a GAA career with either of those counties will prove more financially secure. You'll be sorted with a handy job for life, will cream it in on promotional activities and probably get more enjoyment and success out of the game. You can maybe understand lads from weaker counties going over when they knew there is a limit from what they can gain from their profile regardless of how good they are but that's a different argument.

The AFL are regularly taking about 4/5 lads over a year and very few of them are making any sort of tangible impact of game. It's not the English Premier League, it's not a sport that is absolutely flooded with money and has global appeal. I think it's a pretty fruitless endeavor from the Australian point of view.

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GAA Discussion / Re: International rules
« on: November 19, 2017, 09:06:24 PM »
I really doubt there is any significant financial cost. Ultimately they persist so there is obviously value for money there.

It's not as if the AFL is the English Premier League. There's not a limitless pool of money and the success rate of GAA player in AFL is pretty poor to be honest.

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GAA Discussion / Re: International rules
« on: November 19, 2017, 08:00:28 PM »
What real costs are there tho? Use of GAA Grounds (probably free), use of DCU facilities, facilitated by a few already contracted coaches / officials, the cost of a few Business class plane Tickets - probably freebies from Emirates who are involved as Sponsors.

There would be a lot of costs involved in organising these things. Not to mention staff employed in organising these events and other such things.

Players then get salaries and the majority of them don't make it.

The no of players making it in a niche sport such as Aussie rules is pretty disappointing. I just don't really see much of a result out of the Aussies putting in so much endeavour, maybe the results will change now - Glass and McKenna seem to have made the breakthrough this year but Tuohy and Hanley is a very disappointing return from the no of players who have gone over in the past 10 years.

Willl the younger Hanley head back to Mayo this year? Will he be much of an addition?


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GAA Discussion / Re: International rules
« on: November 19, 2017, 07:24:12 PM »
Will you tell them to stop or do you want me to?

I'm merely making the point that it doesn't really seem much of a worthwhile venture from the Australian point of view.

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GAA Discussion / Re: International rules
« on: November 19, 2017, 06:16:07 PM »
Young lads get to live in the Sun for 2 years
They get paid to train for and play a type of football
Some make it some don't, that's the way it goes.
How many soccery kids go to England and end up as "failures"

So it's merely about living in the sun?

From my understanding the type of money you'd make from Aussie Rules is nothing special, particularly for those starting off and you would struggle to retire on it. Generally kids who go and play professional football do it because they've played the game from a very young age up and are fulfilling a childhood dream, I don't think many Irish kids dream about going on to play AFL.

But that's not my point in any case. It's not as if the AFL are having great success out of poaching gaelic footballers, very few make it and even the ones who do aren't particularly special players in the overall scheme of things. In the last 10 odd years, the most high profile players are Hanley, Touhy and Martin Clarke. I'd imagine setting up all these trials and so forth costs an awful lot of money through logistics and everything else so AFL clubs aren't exactly getting great value for money.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 19, 2017, 03:08:45 PM »
you think mc carron still up to it? what about hp mc geary or frank burns in there instead of him?

I think he can do a job in certain situations.

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GAA Discussion / Re: International rules
« on: November 19, 2017, 01:29:22 PM »
So if the GAA end the series there will be no more minors being trialled or signed by the ALL clubs.
Pull th'other one chaps.

You'd wonder what use the whole thing is in any respect?

How many players have really made an impact in AFL in the past 15 years?

Kennelly, Hanley and Touhy really the only ones, maybe Marty Clarke for a while but after that they've pretty much been failures.

McKenna and Glass are going well now but they were the outstanding minors in their age grouping and it will be interesting to see if they can sustain it.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 19, 2017, 12:12:29 PM »
our full forward line wasnt exactly shit hot against dublin either was it bomber?

Nope and hopefully the introduction of some natural defenders might allow us to keep more bodies forward next year.

McAliskey returning as well should also help us:

Wouldn't mind a side like this next year:

Morgan

McKernan McCarron Cassidy

McCann Hamspey Harte

Cavanagh McClure

Loughran Sludden Meyler

Bradley Donnelly McAliskey

With Donnelly operating around the middle of the pitch

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 19, 2017, 10:22:18 AM »
I see Cahir McCullagh has opted out for next year as he's travelling.

Thought we might have seen more new faces as we are down a few from retirements and such. Good to see two traditional man markers like McKernan and Burns being brought in. I think the full back line is the area of the pitch we need to improve on the most.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: November 18, 2017, 09:11:07 PM »
A legend.

A hero.

An icon.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 14, 2017, 08:33:59 PM »
Not a fan but to quote Colm Parkinson -

“Interesting the Tipp footballers are opting out of the McGrath cup in January to concentrate on preparing for the league. Kerry played their U21's and Dublin their C team in them this year. The January Cup competitions really are just a nuisance”

But Tyrone won 5 Mc Kenna Cups and people think there worth something. Play the newbies and get them game ready when needed

Yawn.

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