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Only Ballagh GAA club is affiliated with Mayo GAA. Nathys is without question in Roscommon. The Mayo lads are a welcome part of Nathys' tradition but they are welcome to our great county and not their own when they set foot in its doors. You can't take Roscommon men and make them play for Mayo and then get in a huff about Mayo lads playing for a Roscommon college.

I'd cede Nathy's to Mayo or Sligo, which ever county would be so good as to lay a claim. A horrid place back in my day.

I'd be wary of this. During the excesses of the Celtic tiger years a Canadian resort developer Newfound Properties or something was planning a big Eco hotel complex in Boyle. Most were in favor of this and big buzz in Roscommon Hearld. I wrote a few posts on sites like RealBoyle saying this would destroy the natural beauty of Lough Key and I was ayten alive. Thankfully Taisce did not approve and there was uproar with them when they did not approve. What happened that developer? Went out of business. If it went ahead we'd have the mother of all Zombie hotels on the shores of Lough Key to compliment all the ugly ghost estates Roscommon County Council approved around the county.

Looks like ye doff the cap to Galway Sy. in fairness. Always knew that anyway. They can piss on ye and ye take it.
I ll never forget 2001. Was at the games in Tuam and Castlebar.

I remember the Tuam game because I wasn t driving and on the way up there was this unbelievably photo of Martina Hingis in Sunday Times Mag. with a bottle of champagne, running on a beach after winning the Aus Open, a few months earlier.

Ros. demolished Galway in Tuam that day.
A couple of months later ....

The thing is I remember Ros. supporters walking meekly away and being goaded from a height. I remember one young Ros lad saying 'at least we won Connacht- ye've won nothing'.
The reply was 'it s not worth a shite to ye now, is it!!'
Unfortunatley those presumptuous pricks got to see some good times.

Ah now. The 2001 lads were the GAA's Crazy Gang. After that brilliant Conancht championship they seemed to check out. Had very little to do with it being Galway in Castlebar in an AIQF.

I'd say it had. It was the 1st year of the qualifiers and after beating Galway and Mayo in the same year for the first time since the 4 in a row team did it 4 years in a row, 77-80, we get an All-ireland qtr final not in Croke Park but in Castlebar against Galway again. Motivation was now with Galway and we had the trudgery of trying to do it again. Game over at half time. Westmeath of course would have a happy memory from that same year.

It is worth asking the question and making comparisons with the free state,who have never produced a home born manager to take the national team to a major finals or did anything of note at a major club across the water.Giles,Brady,O'Leary and O'Farrell were monumental failures at big clubs in England and Scotland.In fact only Eoin Hand made a decent fist of the national team.

Brian Kerr - won both U16 and U18 European Championship and 3rd in Youth World Cup. Don't think any Irish manager had matched that yet.

And don't forget Patrick O'Connell the only Irishman to manage a team to a La Liga title (what was that you were saying about anything of note with a major club across the water).

[The difference between it and the Ballagh situation are very signifcant.]

If I understand correctly Athlone is considered Westmeath even if half of it is in Roscommon. What is stopping them extending the boundary and just taking over the whole shop ?

All of Athlone is in Westmeath.
The boundary more or less goes along the bypass.
Roscommon Council ceded the west bank to Westmeath back in the late 1800s
However, unlike the other end of the county when it comes to GAA, we're not bitter about things like that.

Plenty of people with Athlone, County Roscommon addresses. The town (urban area) was ceded for admitstrative purposes in 1898, most of the town that now exists simply didn't when that happened and most of the growth in the Athlone area has occurred outside the town proper so it hardly applies in the manner you're suggesting.

Everything west of the Shannon remains in the county of Roscommon. The difference between it and the Ballagh situation are very signifcant.

really ?  surely most people in Athlone would identify as Westmeath so I assume the parallels with Ballaghaderreen are pretty straightforward.

Would depend on the part of Athlone. Someone like Count John McCormack identified as Westmeath while another Athlone man Brendan Shine identified as Roscommon. The historic side of Athlone (Castle) is on the Roscommon side and has a rich heritage with Connacht history. But really no bitterness there like in Ballagh. Athlone sometimes gets a bad rap and has its problems. But it's a lovely town, a real jewel on the Shannon.

If I understand correctly Athlone is considered Westmeath even if half of it is in Roscommon. What is stopping them extending the boundary and just taking over the whole shop ?

All of Athlone is in Westmeath.
The boundary more or less goes along the bypass.
Roscommon Council ceded the west bank to Westmeath back in the late 1800s
However, unlike the other end of the county when it comes to GAA, we're not bitter about things like that.

Plenty of people with Athlone, County Roscommon addresses. It was only ceded for admitstrative  purposes. Everything west of the Shannon remains in the county of a Roscommon. The difference between it and the Ballagh situation is very stark.

Why does the Hodson Bay Hotel give its official address as Westmeath. Even taking the admin area into consideration that is surely Roscommon.

In addition, if Down and Laois draw and Roscommon beat Westmeath, and there's a winner in the Meath v Cavan game, 3 teams will be on 9 points (with Down and Meath having much better scoring average).

We have a poor record v Galway at u21 in recent times (Dublin and Galway have been our bogey teams) and a fancied Ros team fell apart last time in Salthill. Ergo the final will be in Salthill. If we play to our best, we'll put an end to the poor record against Galway.

I'm back in the USSR

Pressure smeshure.no wind up from me. Just watch our u21 win the all ireland,seniors to b promoted to div 1,connaught senior and a bit of luck maybe last 4.a genuine statement

We may and I hope we do all that but a genuine Roscommon supporter would leave the bragging until it was achieved on the field of play. And tell us were you in Kiltoom yesterday with your Yiddishisms? Was that you dismissively shouting Sligo Schligo before a ball was even thrown in.

Not sure who d infamous larryin is but you certainly have a soft spot. The reality is this roscommon u21/senior is the best we have produced in a generation. Which is why we are streets ahead of mayo/galway in u21 and will win connaught with a bit to spare.no other team bar dublin are on this level. Its not scientific or a coincidence ourselves and dubs have a top top underage structure which we in roscommon worked damned hard since 2005.the fruits we are bearing but now we have depth,coaching model,financial structure and a very loyal fan base.other counties could do this if they followed roscommons blueprint from 2005. Which is just after we went bust. Ee should be an example for teams around the country

No genuine Roscommon supporter would heap pressure on young lads like that. You are clearly a wind up merchant.. We did to Mayo in the first half last year what we did to Sligo this year and then got hammered by Dublin in the final. Kerry beat us in a recent challenge and were our measure in the HC and they got knocked out by Cork. Mayo have an All-Ireland winning minor team to draw on and some lads who are playing Div 1 senior.  Galway have seen off talented Ros U21 teams over the last 5 years. Unfortunately for Sligo they were clearly not prepared and should consider entering Hastings Cup next year.

And drunkeness (as opposed to having a couple of celebratory drinks) is compatible with Christianity how?

It was Jesus who turned water into wine, was it not? Facilitating drunkenness.

Gluttony and lord knows what else, un reproductive fornication amongst the wedding goers, thon Jesus was a bad'un, knowingly facilitating sins.

It was his mother that told him they'd run out of wine - which is why some scholars have wondered why was she concerned with the lack of booze and they have concluded it was actually her son's wedding.

Anyway, Jesus had nothing on Saint Patrick when it came to miracles. That said, Saint Columcille silenced the Lough Ness monster and Saint Brendan sailed to America in a small curragh and had a barbecue on the back of a whale. We won't see the likes of those lads again.

If anything will fell Ros it's the amount of football the young lads have already played this year, between Colleges and both grades of county. You can be sure Murtagh and Smith will be required again on Sunday for the game against Meath - 3 big games in 1 week. That's on top of the heavy duties DCU required of Smith. Serious burnout territory.

[I also echo the sentiment held by all here and I hope the Leitrim full back is ok.]

I also echo the sentiment held by all here and I hope the Leitrim full back is ok. Onto the game itself, it consisted of 2 teams playing blanket defences. At least we got the goals! Leitrim were always chasing the game even after we got the first goal I thought. Credit to Mayo though, Leitrim probably should have been level for the sheer workrate at halftime. Mayo upped the ante in the 2nd half and all subs were a good addition.

+1. Hopefully it was not as bad as it looked. Fingers crossed. Hope he is well and back playing ball real soon.
Until we know more, any observations I have about the match can wait. For parents at a match or listening in  something like that is a nightmare.

Well said and great news the young man is ok.

In all the cases we are hearing the rapists get sent someplace else where they are free to prey on other children. It is the exact same approach as the Catholic Church. I've seen comments by Sinn Fein supporters all over the place praising the justice meted out, as if its simply ok to banish them someplace else. The twisted logic is pure sickness. This will not cost Sinn Fein any votes because there's something deeply perverse at the heart of Irish Catholic identity when it comes to sexual abuse, whether it be Sinn Fein, Cardinal Brady or Irish families that simply cover it up. It's probably no coincidence that most of the sexual abuse in the Catholic Church in US was committed by Irish born or Irish American clerics. It probably all stems from the repression and unhealthy attitude to sex that Catholicism brought into this country. Not saying it's not prevalent in other religions and cultures. But our culture is infested with it, with both the sick twisted perpetrators and their rotten enablers.