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Whatever mr2
Your right a grown up striking a sixteen your old is wrong. But stop trying to build a picture where this sixteen year old was standing minding his own business. We have already established the way he reacted was wrong so stop repeating it. I haven't seen you write once condemning the player and his part in the whole incident. If we listened to you he is the only one hard done by here. Take the blinkers off and realise when someone behaves the way he did it's going to escalate into something worse.  I've tried to make you see that when it comes to an emotional parent then rational goes out the window. So keep on deflecting away from the sc**bag here I don't care what age he is.
Ask someone what's the lowest thing you could do on a hurling field and his action is the answer you will get most

Are you for real???
What happens on a pitch between opposing teamsn and players is for officials to judge, then clubs can assess conduct of their own players as they see fit!
It is absolutely unacceptable for any parent to react this way, regardless of incident! Stop trying to justify this!

Have you read my post I've already said it was wrong, I would say that the man that did it knows it was wrong and maybe even regrets his actions. It ceased to become a hurling match when pulling round the head and sent off players running on and kicking in the head started. Are those responsible actions for 16 year olds. Imm not defending the parents action but I would find it hard to contain myself if some animals where getting tore into my son like that.  If your going to follow things to the letter of the law like it should then he should have waited and called the police. The whole thing is a sad state of affairs and there where post concentrating on the parent who should be witnessing this and acting with calm and resolve.

None is going to change my stance on this so stop trying

i seen the incident on saturday between sars/st pauls v glenshesk there was two strikes on the head from 2 different players  the second glens player was laying on the ground when a player from sars/st pauls  got off the bench and ran at full speed and kicked the glens player a really ugly kick to the back of his head when he was laying on his back, it really blew off after that i think the player that kicked the player on head was sent off in first half shocking scenes

Sure there only kids ( yeah right )and in line with mt2 and hs we should only dwell on the response and not the action. The parent that reacted to that small misdemeanour is the only one to be lambasted on this thread. 

Whatever mr2
Your right a grown up striking a sixteen your old is wrong. But stop trying to build a picture where this sixteen year old was standing minding his own business. We have already established the way he reacted was wrong so stop repeating it. I haven't seen you write once condemning the player and his part in the whole incident. If we listened to you he is the only one hard done by here. Take the blinkers off and realise when someone behaves the way he did it's going to escalate into something worse.  I've tried to make you see that when it comes to an emotional parent then rational goes out the window. So keep on deflecting away from the sc**bag here I don't care what age he is.
Ask someone what's the lowest thing you could do on a hurling field and his action is the answer you will get most

[longer memories]

Nothing you boys haven't done before....

Ffs let it go.  As sie would say is all loughgiels fault 

you'd nearly think Rossa were shrinking violets when it came to this sort of thing Pdiddy. It would appear some of us have longer memories then others. best to let it go ......

Yes we all have it and we all have selected memories of our own players pulling on players from behind, what happens on the pitch should be between those players. People coming on from the sidelines is wrong every time, an adult coming on to the pitch could do serious harm also NAH could even kill someone!!

I didn't go on to no pitch. I don't know the man who did. My guess is this is the first time he done anything like that. My guess is when he went to watch his son play in a hurling final and what he observed wasn't hurling but someone inflicting G BH on a part of the body that could result in something much worse than a broken bone. Chances are he's like the most of us that family is much precious even than hurling and he lost it. Should he have done it NO. But sometimes you witness something that leads you to take complete leave of your senses. Protecting your young is something that is inherently built into us and imm not going to judge him to harshly. Sure everything worked out fine for the clown who started it. Apparently he's away with a cup and maybe no ref report on him if it wasn't seen. Imm only going on hard stations report anyway, maybe it didn't happen like that but I can sympathise with the kids parent got reacting the way he did even it it was wrong

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven

That's exactly why there's so much of this crap year after year in Antrim. U-16 grade was by far the worst for it, in my experience.

Yes that's a ridiculous statement north antrim hound ffs. The parents coming on to the pitch will only make a bad situation worse. No f**king need
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Ridiculous yes your right, I don't care if I had I kid out there and someone pulled hard on his head. That's an action that could lead to serious long term injury or even be fatal.  these are 15 , 16 year olds (bordering on grown ups)I have never went over a fence in my life and hope I never will . Fair play to anyone on here who could show restraint in those circumstances.  What if the ref didn't see and the offending sc**bag walks. I only mentioned as some people seem to vilifying the parent more than the p***k that pulled on someone's head isn't getting the same airtime

Oh dear HS! Assuming that's all true:

I suppose we'll sit back and wait on the repercussions but I believe that family barely even speak to each other!

Not remotely defending (obviously) the mentors actions nor the players - but the parent that jumped the wire is just as (if not more) guilty and and to blame.

An adult entering the field to strike a juvenile?
The initial strike can be dealt with using the ref & the rules - this action precipitates the rest of the events - which again I am not defending one bit.

This parent has a lot to answer for.

In my day ya really didn't see too many parents turning up for the games, the obvious ones were of course club men who's sons played, outside of that there wasn't many there, now ffs ya can't get them off the line, and in most cases never played the game but are telling the manager what to do!!! Telling their kids to 'get him son'!!

My dad turned up for a few games, wasn't a Gaa man at all, got him to go to a football semi final once, a fight broke out, I'm in the middle of it, as I got in the car to go home my dad hit me a clip round the ear for fighting!! That's the way it was

All clubs have a code of conduct for supporters at games, nothing is ever done to these parents when they break those rules, through maybe fear of that parent taking Johnny away to another club!!

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven

I heard we hurled well in Dublin.   JC.  Your taking MR2s way of playing them down.   Don't for 1 second say you don't expect to win every game that you take the field.

Who me? I took defeat badly, but alas I don't play anymore and have mellowed out as the years pass by.

Have you fcuk, there's nothing worse than losing, christ I won't even let my kids win Monopoly

Show me a good loser and Ill show you a loser: Vince Lomabardi

A bad winner now that's a different thing

[its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses]

I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses

Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.

Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature

Your second rate football comment is hugely patronising.

Do you play the game at all?

The biggest game in club footballers calendar are their championship games - be they senior, junior or intermediate. What is the guy to say? Ah well we're a second rate football team i'll not bother?

no reason why these fixtures couldnt be moved.the county have ruined about 4 fellas chances of starting an all ireland final.there are some plonkers in casement holding important positions who are never held responsible for their idiotic actions.whenever u complain about it on county website,the plonker never prints it.these guys bury their heads in the sand,pat each other on the back and tell each other theyre doin a great job when they couldnt be any further away from the truth.

Antrim's U21 hurling heroes to return to Thurles for All-Ireland final
The Saffron county face Clare in the decider on September 14th.


ANTRIM'S U21 SIDE will return to the site of last Saturday's famous triumph when they meet Clare in this year's Bord Gáis Energy All-Ireland U21 hurling final.

Semple Stadium in Thurles was confirmed today as the venue for the game on Saturday September 14th.

Despite Antrim's players and supporters having to embark on a far longer trip to the Tipperary venue than their counterparts in Clare, the GAA have opted to stick with Semple Stadium to host the game.

Semple Stadium has been the venue for the last three All-Ireland U21 finals although controversy erupted in 2010 when Galway protested at having to play the game there given their opponents Tipperary were playing in their home pitch.

In the wake of that episode, the GAA ruled that all future U21 hurling finals would be played at Semple Stadium but an alternative venue would be chosen if Tipperary were one of the participating counties.

There will be a throw-in time of 5pm for this year's showdown with Cork's Colm Lyons the referee for the encounter.

Antrim will be the first Ulster side to contest the final of this competition after they shocked Wexford in last Saturday's semi-final despite being 12/1 outsiders beforehand to defeat the Leinster champions.

well done to the lads. very very proud

Funny today. Chatting to a couple of Cork people today after the game. They were pissing themselves at the antics of this place. Silly people with silly wee empires. They have rival clubs down in langerland too, but not to this extent. Couldn't get their head around people here taking club stuff so serious yet don't care about county. Suppose that's why they win stuff and are respected while we travelling the same ground again and again. Big fish small pond I guess. Who wins the 'championship' this year? I really couldn't care

Very true, if any other county  is reading this board  it is a bit embarrassing. It's one thing having no interest in your county but some of the subjects on here are woefull. We have an u21 quarter final coming up and I see our u16  squad was beat yesterday by Donegal. But what's the obsession on here
What some clown is posting on twitter.  What's really sad, lets forget about the image we are projecting to outside counties . Lets consider some young impressionable player with county aspirations  checks in here for a look. Imm not blaming players for showing no interest in county hurling anymore. I think collectively our indifference and apathy to it is contributing more to the status quo. I haven't any more solutions than anyone else imm just making an observation.

I'm actually depressed about the whole thing. Love the sport, it's my life. But this crap in this county drives me despair. Proper fed up

+1

Funny today. Chatting to a couple of Cork people today after the game. They were pissing themselves at the antics of this place. Silly people with silly wee empires. They have rival clubs down in langerland too, but not to this extent. Couldn't get their head around people here taking club stuff so serious yet don't care about county. Suppose that's why they win stuff and are respected while we travelling the same ground again and again. Big fish small pond I guess. Who wins the 'championship' this year? I really couldn't care

Very true, if any other county  is reading this board  it is a bit embarrassing. It's one thing having no interest in your county but some of the subjects on here are woefull. We have an u21 quarter final coming up and I see our u16  squad was beat yesterday by Donegal. But what's the obsession on here
What some clown is posting on twitter.  What's really sad, lets forget about the image we are projecting to outside counties . Lets consider some young impressionable player with county aspirations  checks in here for a look. Imm not blaming players for showing no interest in county hurling anymore. I think collectively our indifference and apathy to it is contributing more to the status quo. I haven't any more solutions than anyone else imm just making an observation.

And we wouldn't want it any other way dr. Sure it would be boring otherwise.

Yeah yeah yeah you and liam against the world and the world hasn't got a chance we get it. What about Dublin and. Cork it's some match nothing in it

What is the current problem with Winker? Is it simply that he packed it in and has now changed his mind? Doesn't this happen all the time, in every club and nothing has ever been said (as it's not a big issue).

Time for people to have a wee think, as I'm sure there are people in every club who have done similar.

Chris Hamill & Paul Close have done similar in our club recently and everyone was just delighted to have them back.

FFS, Paul Scholes did it with Man United and was hailed a hero for it.

I get the impression that Liam Watson can't have a skittery shite without some knobhead holding it against him.

he can shite as many times and where ever he wants, I can only speak for my self when i Say who cares. I don't know what is worse, all the post and fascination with him fueled by him and his behavior or SIE trying in vein to convince his detractors that in below it all he really is a nice chap. this has been dragging on for 3 days now, are there no other subjects more interesting than this. I appeal to all posters to move on and SIE to have his children and leave it at that

Whats the story with Antrim u 21s. I read there that wexford have lost two of there best players to injury and we only got 8 to our last training session. By some accounts this isn't the worst bunch of players so why no interest. Ryan must be wondering the same

So you are saying Mr Watson never claimed he retired? You claim he was injured and missed last weeks championship opener. Your clubmate says he played football for ballymoney v coleraine. Not the actions of an injured man.

Point I found interesting was the lack of respect your clubmate had for pj. I genuinely thought he was a god in your part of the world. He certainly claims to be.

In fairness to watson. He might not have been playing last Sunday, but he was at an u10 hurling blitz with LG we where hosting. Helping with his club youth. He deserves most of the criticism he gets so fair dues to him when he is doing so something like that

Anybody think we'll be looking for a new County Chairman & County Secretary soon after their recent balls up?
Don't let the gate hit youse on the way out.

what happened HS