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Michael Fegan should be in there.

Also, it's split into regions which play off their own championship first.
In fairness, if we had west cavan as a region it's be practically the junior championship anyway with Kildallan, Templport, Swad, Corlough, Shannon Gaels.

In Kerry the county championship and the club championship are two separate things I think.
The prestigious one is the county championship, which is mainly amalgamations and very strong club teams.

List them Boojangles and as a criteria tell me would they make the Cavan Gaels team?

Now I know you have nothing worth a damn to say about anything but do you think Carr himself has done enough to look at players? After all he is getting paid to manage the team isn't he?

I think he has actually.
I don't think anyone disputes the fact that, more or less, the 25-30 best available players are on the panel. If you disagree, tell me who should be there.
The problem is that Carr doesn't have them motivated, in shape or playing well! I'm not a Carr apologist, I've no time for him as a manager but making up rubbish off the top of your head such as he didn't go to a club game all year or he didn't try new players is embarrassing to be honest.
You just complain about everything regardless, as someone else pointed out recently.

BallyhaiseMan makes an excellent point. Some research shows that Cavan has 40 football clubs for a population of 64,000. Donegal has 147,000 population and 39 football clubs.
It's worth noting though that soccer is huge in Donegal. In the Inishowen peninsula, there are 23 adult soccer clubs and just three Gaelic football clubs.
Still, good point. We have too many clubs I would think, although I'd like to see the stats re other counties.
I know Monaghan has 27 clubs for a 52,000 population which seems about right.

On another note, I want to point some of the complete tripe posted here recently by Mylestheslasher.

He has made zero effort to find new talent

Hang on – Carr has given league debuts to six players in two matches! I'm no fan of Carr's but you're talking through your hole there.

he wasn't at a club game all year

Absolute rubbish. I'd say you who spouts random shite on here weren't at too many!

Yes, your statement that the board should have done something which they literally COULDN'T do was totally wrong and showed your ignorance of the rules.
I'm not insulting you, I'm voicing my opinion here.
I'm not an expert on the rules, never claimed to be. I just pointed out that you didn't know anything about what you were talking about and were short-sighted enough to actually level criticism based on this ill-informed view.

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Boojangles, your post is ill-informed, ignorant and short sighted.

Gowna should have been deducted points and let play their remaining games. The same with Cavan Gaels. Now we have this farce.

Gowna COULDN'T have been deducted points because there is no provision for that in the rules of the association. Got it? You don't know what you're talking about Boojangles.
The club should have taken their medicine. They appealed all the way to Croke Park ON A TECHNICALITY. They didn't dispute anything that they did, yet they argued till the cows came home to get off, in the process fcking up the season for loads of other clubs. Their indiscipline and stubborness has fucked up the season, not the board.
They wouldn't listen to any attempts at mediation and stubbornly stuck to their guns. Yet the evil 'board' is to blame?

over a County Board c**k-up

Explain what c**k up did the board make?

Look, sitting here crying about the board is pointless. Get it into your head - the board IS the clubs!!!

Elected by the clubs, from the clubs. That's irrefutable.

90 per cent of the clubs wanted this. Otherwise, delegates didn't do their jobs. If delegates (chairman and secretary, remember, the two most important positions in the club) can't do their job, is that the board's fault?

Complaining about a democratic decision is pathetic. It had to get a two thirds majority and it got more.

Did Ballyhaise vote for it?
Did all the other clubs listed here who were wronged vote for it?

Some of them did.

The problem with Cavan football is in some of the full time positions, but not 'the board' per se. There are 17 on the committee remember.

Ah I have actually lost the will to care anymore about any decisions the powers that be make in Cavan. Its just very sad to see how low this county is,Club and Inter-County. We can compete with the best up to Minor level then it all goes pear-shaped. We have produced some outstanding talent but where has it got us. Cavan football is a f**king joke,its just a pity I can't see the funny side.

I know you train underage teams etc but there is point whinging on a message board or 'losing the will to care'. Become a delegate, run for the board, get involved, don't sit on the sidelines moaning.
The 'powers that be' are no different than anyone else - they are voted in by the clubs remember (in almost all cases).

BallyhaiseMan,

Have you ever seen Eoin McGuigan before? He's about 6 foot 2, I'd say about 15 stone. That's big.

Anything else emerge from saturday's match? I hear Nesty was good. Any of the Under 21s look like making the step up???

Back to hibernation for me.

f**k it, what's the point!
Gaynor centre-back, Michael Fegan midfield and Boojnagles' old boy manager.
Good luck!

Yeah he's so good at centre half-back that his club have to play him in the forwards where there is less chance of him losing the plot!
Seriously, you are misinformed or deluded.
Gaynor's sendings off follow a trend, you see. He's not your average hot head who could be coaxed out of his habit, he's a choker who only gets the line when the pressure is on. He has proved this time and again for club and county.
Ergo, his club play him in attack where, if the going gets tough, he can hide rather than in defence where he will generally take someone out of it if he's in trouble.
Your comment about nobody bothering their holes is lazy. Eamon Coleman tried. Result? He cost us an Ulster U21 final (remember, we have three Ulster titles at minor, U21 and senior since 69). That was massive for us, and Gaynor blew it in extra-time.
Keogan tried. Result? No commitment.
Club manager Bernard Morris tried. Result? Couldn't handle him at first. Moved him then to full-forward and he played a bit part role as they won Cavan and Ulster Intermediate title. Then, with a place in the All Ireland club final up for grabs, he blew it and got red-carded.
A relation of his struck an umpire in the resulting melee, the club was slapped with a ban and has been in freefall since, resulting in relegation.
Trust me, I wish we had the Gaynor of Down 04 playing like that for Cavan, he was amazing in those games.
But that was the exception. His career wasn't 'cut short' as if he was injured or something. He got several chances and blew it. If one of the greatest man managers in the history of Gaelic games, Coleman, couldn't get his head right, who can?
Peter earned his place on the Cavan team for a decade by doing the business - he showed discipline, commitment and courage, three things Gaynor lacked.
It takes more courage, remember, not to react and to stay focused for the good of the team than to implode when it's all on the line.

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I actually missed this thread as I only ever check the Cavan one on local discussion.
You have stated before that you followed Cavan all over Ireland so presumed you would have seen those fellas in action in the flesh, I have seen them against Cavan.
Can you clarify because there is some confusion: Is Michael Fegan the most talented Cavan player you've ever seen in the flesh or most talented player full stop?
By the way you worded your post, it seems he is the most talented you've ever seen from any county. Fair enough.
I am astounded, but fair enough.
Even if he's not, it's amazing that the secret of this amazing talent you speak of has survived this long. I am a football fanatic, saw Fegan play a few times (hurling and fotball actually, believe it or not) and he always struck me as a decent club player. I have also never heard anyone state differently - that's not to say that others don't hold that view.

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Hmmm personally I don't know how anyone could think Gaynor was a better footballer than Peter Reilly but Lynchbhoy is only expressing his opinion so I'll give him a pass..... for now 

Peter done the business for Cavan year in and year from '95 at least to 2006 maybe???

Gaynor played a couple of dozen games league and championship and more often as not imploded/exploded when Cavan needed him with a few notable exceptions - the Down games mentioned earlier.  Definitely had the potential to be a big player for Cavan but at least Cavan doesn't have many players like that.... 

Wot 'e said!

Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion, bizarre as it is!

You haven't fully made up your mind on Peter though, have you? 

Peter Reilly was a v good footballer , but as you say its all about opinions. In mine he was good not great

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Peter reilly was a great footballer