Grab all leftie Clare Daly moaning about the GAA. :o
Ironically the GAA, often disliked by the left, is one of the few good examples of socialism at work - Co-operative ownership, not for profit volunteerism and generally being non-elitist.
A strain of socialist politics is based around begrudgery. A dislike of those who get up off their arses, meaning they show up those who prefer to sit back with the hand out.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/minister-hits-out-at-description-of-gaa-as-grab-all-association-1.1836876
The mental gymnastics required to approvingly quote Mick Wallace on the subject. . . politics truly makes for strange bedfellows.
Is Mick Wallace still involved with Wexford Youths?
So, a volunteer led body, providing a co-operative based funding approach to various community and county facilities improvements, not to mention the sporting outlet it has provided to millions of children through the year and continues to do so today, is a 'Grab All Association' because it is paying, yes paying, for the rights to develop and old Army Barracks into a centre of excellence for Westmeath GAA?
What a gobshite this one sounds. Does she realise it? And to be spoon fed lines by that ignorant wastrel, Mick Wallace is a joke. He's a bitter little f**k.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2014, 09:14:59 AM
Is Mick Wallace still involved with Wexford Youths?
I don't think he's directly involved. The perverse thing is that he once quoted the GAA with approval as his model for the club, and he was absolutely right. A case of running with the hare and hunting with the hounds when it comes to public pronouncements.
Quote from: deiseach on June 19, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
The mental gymnastics required to approvingly quote Mick Wallace on the subject. . . politics truly makes for strange bedfellows.
Best to let sleeping dogs lie.
At least she came up with an original name for the GAA.
If that melt was on fire it would be hard to find anyone to wee on her.
Feck her and her brand of socialism that would bring the country back again to the Stone Age if anyone was stones enough to try and implement it.
And don't get me started on Mick Wallace..........
I used to have a bit of respect for Clare Daly but she seems totally infatuated by this clown Mick Wallace and pretty much has become a mouthpiece for whatever he believes in this week.
But whatever about Capitalism v Socialism, this is a community, not for profit, organisation ploughing investing its money in facilities to improve the lot of its players. It's bizarre that she would be against it. I hope she gets nailed on this, the GAA has done far more good for this country than any set of self serving politicos.
Never heard of her
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:31:09 AM
But whatever about Capitalism v Socialism, this is a community, not for profit, organisation ploughing investing its money in facilities to improve the lot of its players. It's bizarre that she would be against it. I hope she gets nailed on this, the GAA has done far more good for this country than any set of self serving politicos.
In a waythat's my point. Her thought process is totally scrambled and inconsistent since she fell in with that eejit. I'd imagine the likes of Joe Higgins is getting a bit embarrassed by her carry on.
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2014, 09:35:29 AM
Never heard of her
She's been quite a strong performer in the Dáil, early on at least. Socialist in the Jim Higgins mould, or used to be at least. She's the one the Gardai apparently stitched up with a leak about her being done for drink driving, just after she had spoken in the Dail about the penalty points and people getting off. Turned out she was well under the limit, but was frogmarched to the station and made to give a blood sample (I think).
Mick Wallace, on the other hand is, was and will be a gobshite. Unfortunately Clare Daly seems to be easily led.
If her attack was based on the site being used for such a farcical concept as a Westmeath 'centre of excellence', it would have been perfectly valid.
In fairness, I think it's actually called the 'Centre of Mediocrity'
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2014, 09:35:29 AM
Never heard of her
She's been quite a strong performer in the Dáil, early on at least. Socialist in the Jim Higgins mould, or used to be at least. She's the one the Gardai apparently stitched up with a leak about her being done for drink driving, just after she had spoken in the Dail about the penalty points and people getting off. Turned out she was well under the limit, but was frogmarched to the station and made to give a blood sample (I think).
Mick Wallace, on the other hand is, was and will be a gobshite. Unfortunately Clare Daly seems to be easily led.
I'm not sure anyone would describe Jim Higgins as a Socialist! :o
Didn't hereself and Joe Higgins fall out? She's no longer a member of the Socialist Party AFAIK - she left due to her connection with Mick Wallace. Anyone who associates with that clown is no better than him - I lost a lot of respect for Ming when he didn't distance himself from Wallace, would have thought he'd have had more principles than that.
I'd have a lot of time for Joe Higgins - I don't necessarily agree with all of his policies but he's got integrity.
We will have to get the guards after her again.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2014, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2014, 09:35:29 AM
Never heard of her
She's been quite a strong performer in the Dáil, early on at least. Socialist in the Jim Higgins mould, or used to be at least. She's the one the Gardai apparently stitched up with a leak about her being done for drink driving, just after she had spoken in the Dail about the penalty points and people getting off. Turned out she was well under the limit, but was frogmarched to the station and made to give a blood sample (I think).
Mick Wallace, on the other hand is, was and will be a gobshite. Unfortunately Clare Daly seems to be easily led.
I'm not sure anyone would describe Jim Higgins as a Socialist! :o
Didn't hereself and Joe Higgins fall out? She's no longer a member of the Socialist Party AFAIK - she left due to her connection with Mick Wallace. Anyone who associates with that clown is no better than him - I lost a lot of respect for Ming when he didn't distance himself from Wallace, would have thought he'd have had more principles than that.
I'd have a lot of time for Joe Higgins - I don't necessarily agree with all of his policies but he's got integrity.
Sorry, Joe. I meant Joe obviously.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2014, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2014, 09:35:29 AM
Never heard of her
She's been quite a strong performer in the Dáil, early on at least. Socialist in the Jim Higgins mould, or used to be at least. She's the one the Gardai apparently stitched up with a leak about her being done for drink driving, just after she had spoken in the Dail about the penalty points and people getting off. Turned out she was well under the limit, but was frogmarched to the station and made to give a blood sample (I think).
Mick Wallace, on the other hand is, was and will be a gobshite. Unfortunately Clare Daly seems to be easily led.
I'm not sure anyone would describe Jim Higgins as a Socialist! :o
Didn't hereself and Joe Higgins fall out? She's no longer a member of the Socialist Party AFAIK - she left due to her connection with Mick Wallace. Anyone who associates with that clown is no better than him - I lost a lot of respect for Ming when he didn't distance himself from Wallace, would have thought he'd have had more principles than that.
I'd have a lot of time for Joe Higgins - I don't necessarily agree with all of his policies but he's got integrity.
(http://f0.thejournal.ie/media/2013/06/isabelle-and-kate-with-luke-ming-flanagan-3072011-630x400.jpg)
He's some man.
You'd never catch Ming at this craic. He'd do other crack.
She's an awful yoke!
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 19, 2014, 09:03:18 AM
Grab all leftie Clare Daly moaning about the GAA. :o
Ironically the GAA, often disliked by the left, is one of the few good examples of socialism at work - Co-operative ownership, not for profit volunteerism and generally being non-elitist.
A strain of socialist politics is based around begrudgery. A dislike of those who get up off their arses, meaning they show up those who prefer to sit back with the hand out.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/minister-hits-out-at-description-of-gaa-as-grab-all-association-1.1836876
This isn't a simple misguided rant, it is part of a fundamental ideology. The problem those of the far left have with the GAA is simply its independence.
That doesn't fit in with Communism nor any of more left leaning socialist ideologies.
I'm going to send her an email asking what she thinks of the implementation of the black card rule, thus far.
I'm pretty sure I know what her stance on the black card is.............she's against it
She would be a fresh addition to the Sunday Game panel.
Thiis "grab all association" comparison is made between the tiddlywinks club and the GAA, with the former having no money compared to latter. The point is that the reason by the tiddlywinks club has no money is because nobody is interested in it!
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 19, 2014, 09:35:29 AM
Never heard of her
She's been quite a strong performer in the Dáil, early on at least. Socialist in the Jim Higgins mould, or used to be at least. She's the one the Gardai apparently stitched up with a leak about her being done for drink driving, just after she had spoken in the Dail about the penalty points and people getting off. Turned out she was well under the limit, but was frogmarched to the station and made to give a blood sample (I think).
Mick Wallace, on the other hand is, was and will be a gobshite. Unfortunately Clare Daly seems to be easily led.
There was a bit more to that story.
She drew the attention of the Gárdaí for making an illegal turn. A garda patrol crew stopped Ms Daly's car after she was spotted making an illegal turn on the South Circular Road in Dublin shortly after midnight.[/i] - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/td-clare-daly-arrested-on-suspicion-of-drinkdriving-29024407.html#sthash.ER6F3gCx.dpuf (http://[i)
This in itself should attract a penalty point. (
Failure to obey requirements at junctions, e.g. not being in the correct lane when turning onto another road http://www.theaa.ie/AA/Motoring-advice/Penalty-Points.aspx (http://www.theaa.ie/AA/Motoring-advice/Penalty-Points.aspx))
They smelled alcohol, which she admitted taking, and she refused the breath test. Nothing wrong with that. She subsequently came in under the legal limit. Someone leaked the story to the press. That became the story.
Before politics she worked at the airport and is on now a sabbatical I believe. During Euro 2012 a large vehicle with 'WALLACE' written on it was parked in an airport staff car park. http://www.herald.ie/news/aer-lingus-probe-as-wallaces-jeep-found-in-free-staff-car-park-28010752.html (http://www.herald.ie/news/aer-lingus-probe-as-wallaces-jeep-found-in-free-staff-car-park-28010752.html)
(http://f3.thejournal.ie/media/2012/06/110-Mick-Wallace-leavin-Dail-630x419.jpg)
AKAIK she has not made a statement as to whether or not she was involved in the latter event.
He nearly knocked me down in that Poxy jeep outside Heuston Station one day.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2014, 01:59:37 PM
I'm going to send her an email asking what she thinks of the implementation of the black card rule, thus far.
She'd probably say the GAA is racist.
Lets turn into 'The Sun' and bash all things left.
Some nonsense on this thread.....obvioulsy some folk were happy with the ultra conservative right wing policies that we have endured for the last 10 years. Thank you FF/FG. Thank you. We knew yer Da well.
That aside , she is wrong there....
she has a point
the barracks is a HUGE site. and it belongs to all the local people
Westmeath GAA only need a few parts of buildings, which are spread out in a few separate buildings and the playing fields (which are in terrible condition)
the place could be used by half the sports clubs and community groups in Mullingar and there'd still be space left over.
Wallace's jeep is a left hand drive, so he's usually all over the road!
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 19, 2014, 09:45:21 AM
If her attack was based on the site being used for such a farcical concept as a Westmeath 'centre of excellence', it would have been perfectly valid.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
In fairness, I think it's actually called the 'Centre of Mediocrity'
Biffos in glasshouses...
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 19, 2014, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 19, 2014, 09:45:21 AM
If her attack was based on the site being used for such a farcical concept as a Westmeath 'centre of excellence', it would have been perfectly valid.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
In fairness, I think it's actually called the 'Centre of Mediocrity'
Biffos in glasshouses...
We aspire to mediocrity. If we threw stones in a glasshouse, we'd miss!
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 04:12:28 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 19, 2014, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 19, 2014, 09:45:21 AM
If her attack was based on the site being used for such a farcical concept as a Westmeath 'centre of excellence', it would have been perfectly valid.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
In fairness, I think it's actually called the 'Centre of Mediocrity'
Biffos in glasshouses...
We aspire to mediocrity. If we threw stones in a glasshouse, we'd miss!
Sure ye probably have all the windows put out by now anyway
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
she has a point
the barracks is a HUGE site. and it belongs to all the local people
Westmeath GAA only need a few parts of buildings, which are spread out in a few separate buildings and the playing fields (which are in terrible condition)
the place could be used by half the sports clubs and community groups in Mullingar and there'd still be space left over.
Have the 'half the sports clubs and community groups in Mullingar' expressed an interest in developing this area?
Quote from: johnneycool on June 19, 2014, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
she has a point
the barracks is a HUGE site. and it belongs to all the local people
Westmeath GAA only need a few parts of buildings, which are spread out in a few separate buildings and the playing fields (which are in terrible condition)
the place could be used by half the sports clubs and community groups in Mullingar and there'd still be space left over.
Have the 'half the sports clubs and community groups in Mullingar' expressed an interest in developing this area?
This is key.
Have other sports and organisations been rebuffed, or are the GAA being kicked for taking first mover advantage?
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 19, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
Have other sports and organisations been rebuffed, or are the GAA being kicked for taking first mover advantage?
It reminds me of the £20 million given to the GAA in order to advance the Bertie Bowl. You could argue it was money badly spent in itself, but if you added up the amount of projects this money
might have been spent on it would have run into billions.
Quote from: deiseach on June 19, 2014, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 19, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
Have other sports and organisations been rebuffed, or are the GAA being kicked for taking first mover advantage?
It reminds me of the £20 million given to the GAA in order to advance the Bertie Bowl. You could argue it was money badly spent in itself, but if you added up the amount of projects this money might have been spent on it would have run into billions.
Aye,
that particular £20 million was a magic £20 million that could shorten hospital A+E queues, keep the elderly in heating fuel, fix leaks in schools, reduce class sizes and keep Garda stations open.
We'd have been like an oil rich gulf state had there been a couple of more £20 mills like that one.
Anyone I've ever heard use the Grab All line, has never played a game of football or hurling nor has any involvement in the GAA in any way.
They're usually oul bitter soccer begrudgers, probably with a skanger Dublin/Sligo/Athlone etc accent who (not unlike Ms Daly's leftist ex buddies) think they should get everything but pay for nothing. ::)
She's originally from Newbridge. I wonder is she a Sarsfields or a Moorefield woman?
Quote from: BennyCake on June 19, 2014, 05:35:58 PM
Anyone I've ever heard use the Grab All line, has never played a game of football or hurling nor has any involvement in the GAA in any way.
I've often heard it at hurling matches!
Quote from: BennyCake on June 19, 2014, 05:35:58 PM
Anyone I've ever heard use the Grab All line, has never played a game of football or hurling nor has any involvement in the GAA in any way.
Err, no. The GAA's own members and supporters are the biggest offenders.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
she has a point
the barracks is a HUGE site. and it belongs to all the local people
Westmeath GAA only need a few parts of buildings, which are spread out in a few separate buildings and the playing fields (which are in terrible condition)
the place could be used by half the sports clubs and community groups in Mullingar and there'd still be space left over.
She has a point lazily condemning the GAA as the 'Grab All Association'?
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 19, 2014, 05:55:45 PM
She's originally from Newbridge.
She got a new accent somewhere along the line :D
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 09:31:09 AM
But whatever about Capitalism v Socialism, this is a community, not for profit, organisation ploughing investing its money in facilities to improve the lot of its players. It's bizarre that she would be against it. I hope she gets nailed on this, the GAA has done far more good for this country than any set of self serving politicos.
+1 AZ, spot on.
the GAA is really the only large local sporting body which could afford the rent to get the gates opened.
and the rent isn't even covering the private security costs on the barracks for the year
and even then, the pitch is terrible. you wouldn't put a third string junior rugby team out on it
So what's her point then? Or yours for that matter?
Quote from: Zulu on June 19, 2014, 11:12:42 PM
So what's her point then? Or yours for that matter?
He was humming and hawing....but I think he says......
.....mess.....
I doubt if any leading member of the GAA will accuse her of being a member of Baywatch cast.
Dail does seem to have more than its fair share of maverick loons,but that's all I'll say about Fine Gael!
Well, we're talking about the issue so from her perspective it's mission accomplished.
Why is the rental of public lands to the GAA commercially sensitive? Unless it's going to them at less than market value?
Maybe Clare Daly had a point
by the GAA trying to force through an extra few concerts, on top of the One Direction gigs they have made themselves look very silly.
The Promoters were "trying to force through" 5 concerts ( in reality applied for licences for 5 concerts).
The GAA could have said NO but didn't.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
The Promoters were "trying to force through" 5 concerts ( in reality applied for licences for 5 concerts).
The GAA could have said NO but didn't.
The GAA knew that the local residents had agreed to three concerts a year. Which had already been held.
And yet Dublin City Council were happy to license another 3 concerts.
Probably even another 4.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 09, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
The Promoters were "trying to force through" 5 concerts ( in reality applied for licences for 5 concerts).
The GAA could have said NO but didn't.
The GAA knew that the local residents had agreed to three concerts a year. Which had already been held.
no the GAA had agreement to 3 unlicenced concerts . they had to appy for a licence for any additional one.
This is actually a casee of the system working exactly as designed .
then the people the system does not Suit start complaining,
Quote from: rosnarun on July 09, 2014, 12:23:31 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 09, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
The Promoters were "trying to force through" 5 concerts ( in reality applied for licences for 5 concerts).
The GAA could have said NO but didn't.
The GAA knew that the local residents had agreed to three concerts a year. Which had already been held.
no the GAA had agreement to 3 unlicenced concerts . they had to appy for a licence for any additional one.
This is actually a casee of the system working exactly as designed .
then the people the system does not Suit start complaining,
In other words, everyone that isn't some lad that has a vendetta over a handball alley.
is there any legal agreement worth a damn on this 3 concert agreement pact?