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F**k this draw anyways. 125 years of championship for us and not a sight of a red hand and now three years running.

Oh, and lads, none of that sandwiches in the car craic this year. We need the money.

Ah Jaysus. We always get hammered after this.

Surely Roscommon will come to Omagh this time ?


Diesel is cheaper in the south ?  :)

Another eleven point win for Tyrone? its possible as Roscommon lost by twelve to Mayo.

Roscommon had good wins over Cavan, Monaghan and Antrim in the league. They've Ulster sussed this year.

Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2013, 09:11:38 AM
Roscommon had good wins over Cavan, Monaghan and Antrim in the league. They've Ulster sussed this year.

Armagh last year too, ONeill. We'd be flying if we switched to Ulster. Even Donegal can barely get over us in challenge matches.

Worst possible draw for Roscommon. Cant imagine confidence is very high after Mayo game and news of this draw wont improve it. However hopefully they'll show a bit of heart and leadership in this match.

Tyrone will fecking ate the Rossies without salt.  Minimum 10 point win.

When is this likely to be played? Next Saturday/Sunday? Would have preferred a home game, my 2 year old wee lad is mad about football and hasn't been to a game yet. Any chance of giving up home advantage??

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 01, 2013, 09:56:05 AM
When is this likely to be played? Next Saturday/Sunday? Would have preferred a home game, my 2 year old wee lad is mad about football and hasn't been to a game yet. Any chance of giving up home advantage??

If he's any good at kicking a football get him to commit to Roscommon and we'll play it on the high street in Omagh.

You're heart has to go out to the auld Rossies, this is probably the only team they didn't want.
They have to resign themselves to another year of watching the green and red flags flying out car windows through their towns on their way to Croker.


Tyrone should take it easy on the ross, they really can't take many more hammerings.

Quote from: larryin89 on July 01, 2013, 10:52:26 AM
You're heart has to go out to the auld Rossies, .
They have to resign themselves to another year of watching the green and red flags flying out car windows through their towns on their way to Croker.

When will ye be flying them on the way home from Croke ?

Quote from: ross matt on July 01, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Worst possible draw for Roscommon. Cant imagine confidence is very high after Mayo game and news of this draw wont improve it. However hopefully they'll show a bit of heart and leadership in this match.

+ 1 Matt. I wonder how many changes from the Mayowr disaster?

Realistically we'll do well to keep the margin to single figures :-\

Still it's time to

RAISE UP THE STANDARD HIGH
WAVE BANNERS TO THE SKY
FOLLOW THE LADS IN SUNSHINE OR RAIN
THEN WITH A MIGHTY ROAR
LET TYRONIES KNOW ONCE MORE
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN.

are the rossies gonna talk up another big game like they did mayo?
they are gonna be steam rolled by tyrone. just like they were by mayo.

Joe McMahon haircut all the way i thought?

Quote from: Rossfan on July 01, 2013, 12:21:06 PM

Quote from: ross matt on July 01, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Worst possible draw for Roscommon. Cant imagine confidence is very high after Mayo game and news of this draw wont improve it. However hopefully they'll show a bit of heart and leadership in this match.

+ 1 Matt. I wonder how many changes from the Mayowr disaster?

Realistically we'll do well to keep the margin to single figures :-\

Still it's time to

RAISE UP THE STANDARD HIGH
WAVE BANNERS TO THE SKY
FOLLOW THE LADS IN SUNSHINE OR RAIN
THEN WITH A MIGHTY ROAR
LET TYRONIES KNOW ONCE MORE
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN.

Dunno Rossfan. The problem v Mayo wasn't selection.... more like attitude and leadership. Maybe if Shine and Kilbride play to their potential we could make a game of it.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 01, 2013, 12:17:33 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on July 01, 2013, 10:52:26 AM
You're heart has to go out to the auld Rossies, .
They have to resign themselves to another year of watching the green and red flags flying out car windows through their towns on their way to Croker.

When will ye be flying them on the way home from Croke ?

V tyrone 1989 all Ireland semi final

v kerry 1996 all Ireland semi final

V Meath 1996 all Ireland final (first day out)

V Offally 1997 all Ireland semi final

v Galway 2001 league final

V Tyrone 2004 all Ireland q/f

V Fermanagh 2004 al Ireland s/f

v Laois  2006 all Ireland q/f

v Dublin 2006 all Ireland semi final

v Cork 2011 all Ireland q/f

v Down 2012 all Ireland q/f

v Dublin 2012 all Ireland s/f

v Tyrone 2013 all Ireland q/f

v Donegal 2013 all Irelnd s/f

V Kerry 2013 all Ireland final    .....Sam at last.

Larry your goading is getting tiresome, we've has enough bad days ourselves not to be putting the boot into others.

I doubt if Roscommon will pose any more opposition than We got on Saturday past. Tyrone by at least 10 points. Yawn...

C'mon Roscommon. Drive it into them cocky Tyrone hoors.

Tyronies have better manners than those Armagh ladeens. There won't be a bus toilet flushed in Roscommon this weekend.

Should be fairly straight forward for Tyrone this.

If things go to plan we'll have a match this weekend. Then crucially weekend of 13 / 14th July off for rest, followed hopefully by 3 games in 3 consecutive weekends!  :P

Big challenge now for Mickey Harte. He needs to ensure where possible, that his key men are fit & available when needed most. No point surely in rushing Stephen O'Neill back when we scored 1-27 without him last weekend. The same applies for the likes of Justin McMahon, although to a lesser extent. Continual changes in personnel in the full back line over our last 3 to 4 games is a worry.

I feel that Harte has a couple of major issues still needing addressing. He still needs to find a target man, that outlet in the full forward line capable of winning 50/50 ball, varying attacks & ultimately making us less predictable [Sean Cavanagh]. Tactically Tyrone have relied exclusively on the short ball game for too long now. As soon as we come up against one of the bigger / better organised sides, its repeatedly exposed.
If you keep playing the same way, the same tactics, over & over again, you're only going to get the same results.

What kind of game are Roscommon playing?

Men behind the ball or long and hard like a terrier's tool?

You'll find out at 6pm next Saturday in Páirc De h-Íde.

Following up on God14's suggestion. What about a FF line of McAliskey, S Cavanagh and McCurry with C Cavanagh and Cassidy? Leaves Kane and young Grugan as midfield back up and plenty of options in FF line.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 01, 2013, 04:50:54 PM
You'll find out at 6pm next Saturday in Páirc De h-Íde.

When they see Donie lining up in goal they won't know what hit them..  :-X

Quote from: larryin89 on July 01, 2013, 12:56:02 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 01, 2013, 12:17:33 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on July 01, 2013, 10:52:26 AM
You're heart has to go out to the auld Rossies, .
They have to resign themselves to another year of watching the green and red flags flying out car windows through their towns on their way to Croker.

When will ye be flying them on the way home from Croke ?

V tyrone 1989 all Ireland semi final

v kerry 1996 all Ireland semi final

V Meath 1996 all Ireland final (first day out)

V Offally 1997 all Ireland semi final

v Galway 2001 league final

V Tyrone 2004 all Ireland q/f

V Fermanagh 2004 al Ireland s/f

v Laois  2006 all Ireland q/f

v Dublin 2006 all Ireland semi final

v Cork 2011 all Ireland q/f

v Down 2012 all Ireland q/f

v Dublin 2012 all Ireland s/f

v Tyrone 2013 all Ireland q/f

v Donegal 2013 all Irelnd s/f

V Kerry 2013 all Ireland final    .....Sam at last.

Need to have read of this thread http://209.200.237.116/~gaabo3/board/index.php?topic=16075.45 before rubbing salt into the wounds of others.

How did McBride do on Sat? Was he at full back?

Big lad, built like the proverbial. Aye, full back. Put in a couple of good tackles early on in first half, at one time thought he was caught for pace but he got back at the attacker and won the ball back. To be fair, didn't have too much to do on the day, even found himself up the field and in a scoring position late in the first half.

I hear the Connacht Council has decided the Hide isn't up to standard.

Where will it held be now?

Quote from: muppet on July 01, 2013, 07:04:20 PM
I hear the Connacht Council has decided the Hide isn't up to standard.

Where will it held be now?

ELVERY'S McHale Park, obviously.

Quote from: ross matt on July 01, 2013, 12:38:44 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 01, 2013, 12:21:06 PM

Quote from: ross matt on July 01, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Worst possible draw for Roscommon. Cant imagine confidence is very high after Mayo game and news of this draw wont improve it. However hopefully they'll show a bit of heart and leadership in this match.

+ 1 Matt. I wonder how many changes from the Mayowr disaster?

Realistically we'll do well to keep the margin to single figures :-\

Still it's time to

RAISE UP THE STANDARD HIGH
WAVE BANNERS TO THE SKY
FOLLOW THE LADS IN SUNSHINE OR RAIN
THEN WITH A MIGHTY ROAR
LET TYRONIES KNOW ONCE MORE
MEN OF ROSCOMMON ARE MARCHING AGAIN.

Dunno Rossfan. The problem v Mayo wasn't selection.... more like attitude and leadership. Maybe if Shine and Kilbride play to their potential we could make a game of it.

Like in 2011 where we made a game of it for 60 mins.
I'd nearly settle for that on Saturday and view it as a reasonable 1st year for Evans  if we were back to the way we were when Fergie left us.

Why the late throw in time? Was expecting an earlier time which would have suited much better for getting home. Could put a few Tyrone one's off travelling.

6pm throw in. Load a balls that. Lucky to get out of Roscommon by 8...Looks like I'll have to use my one opt out on the season ticket for this game. Gutted. I thought after a trip to Offaly on Saturday we'd be lucky enough to get a home draw. No chance. There was really good red hand support in Tullaghmore and the early throw in time was obviously a factor. Can't see the same crowds travelling...

Tyrone I'd say at least matched the Offaly support on Saturday. There must be some reason behind the switch to 6pm but no idea what it could be. Have already been speaking to a few Tyrone people who went on Saturday and might not go this week now. Strange deicision given the travelling distance involved - even 4pm would have been better.

Quote from: Mr. Nakata on July 01, 2013, 10:09:45 PM
6pm throw in. Load a balls that. Lucky to get out of Roscommon by 8...Looks like I'll have to use my one opt out on the season ticket for this game. Gutted. I thought after a trip to Offaly on Saturday we'd be lucky enough to get a home draw. No chance. There was really good red hand support in Tullaghmore and the early throw in time was obviously a factor. Can't see the same crowds travelling...

Small mercies.

If I lived in Tyrone, I'd be glad to get away and wouldn't be too stressed about getting back home in a hurry.

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 01, 2013, 10:01:51 PM
Why the late throw in time? Was expecting an earlier time which would have suited much better for getting home. Could put a few Tyrone one's off travelling.

The CCCC love to discommode Tymoan whingers who can't spell plural words properly  :P

Quote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2013, 12:34:06 PM
The CCCC love to discommode Tymoan whingers who can't spell plural words properly  :P

We'll see just who has been discommoded and who's doing the moaning and whinging come 8pm on Saturday!  :P

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 02, 2013, 04:15:38 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2013, 12:34:06 PM
The CCCC love to discommode Tymoan whingers who can't spell plural words properly  :P

We'll see just who has been discommoded and who's doing the moaning and whinging come 8pm on Saturday!  :P

Our hands will be red from the spanking we'll have delivered to Tyrone.. :-[

I had an inkling we would meet again this year.
I hope this doesn't mean we'll be meeting Kerry next or maybe London for a change?  ;)

Will McBride keep his place for this one?

Quote from: Syferus on July 02, 2013, 04:24:31 PM
Our hands will be red from the spanking we'll have delivered to Tyrone.. :-[

Enough about you.

How do you think the game will go?

Quote from: Syferus on July 02, 2013, 04:24:31 PM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 02, 2013, 04:15:38 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2013, 12:34:06 PM
The CCCC love to discommode Tymoan whingers who can't spell plural words properly  :P

We'll see just who has been discommoded and who's doing the moaning and whinging come 8pm on Saturday!  :P

Our hands will be red from the spanking we'll have delivered to Tyrone.. :-[

You dirty dog!

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Quote from: EC Unique on July 02, 2013, 05:37:59 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 02, 2013, 04:24:31 PM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 02, 2013, 04:15:38 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2013, 12:34:06 PM
The CCCC love to discommode Tymoan whingers who can't spell plural words properly  :P

We'll see just who has been discommoded and who's doing the moaning and whinging come 8pm on Saturday!  :P

Our hands will be red from the spanking we'll have delivered to Tyrone.. :-[

You dirty dog!

(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/robert_jones6/Facebook/SPANKING/bth_b7442b02-d083-43f0-9914-352fe317a545_zps42e93601.jpg)

Is that Dara O'Briain?

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 02, 2013, 06:51:28 PM
Is that Dara O'Briain?

Nah, I'd say his arse would be hairier.

Bum-bum!

Quote from: Mac2 on July 01, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
Larry your goading is getting tiresome, we've has enough bad days ourselves not to be putting the boot into others.

+1

Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2013, 07:08:11 PM

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 02, 2013, 06:51:28 PM
Is that Dara O'Briain?

Nah, I'd say his arse would be hairier.

You're some crack Muppet.

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 02, 2013, 09:08:47 PM

Quote from: muppet on July 02, 2013, 07:08:11 PM

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 02, 2013, 06:51:28 PM
Is that Dara O'Briain?

Nah, I'd say his arse would be hairier.

You're some crack Muppet.

Cheeky!

Ros need to change midfield, they slows up the ball too much and aren't powerfully enough built for modern football

better to have runners there who can track their men and runs from the opposing half back line

Quote from: neilthemac on July 03, 2013, 11:30:16 AM
Ros need to change midfield, they slows up the ball too much and aren't powerfully enough built for modern football

better to have runners there who can track their men and runs from the opposing half back line

I assume you're talking about Michael Finneran because we've named a wing-forward who has trouble catching the ball at midfield for the last two years. Probably the second best runner we have on the panel.

You need players in the middle that are able to break ball and run forward. No good doing one or the other.

Can't see Mickey changing a winning side unless there have been knocks. Even if Joe's fit he might go same again.

You would imagine so alright.
Are Ronan O'Neill & Coney near full fitness yet?
How did McAliskey play on Sat?

Any of ye Tyrone bucks even remotely considering defeat???

Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 02:32:28 PM
Any of ye Tyrone bucks even remotely considering defeat???

It would be a shock. But....Roscommon beat Cavan and Monaghan earlier in the year and finished the league well. They were also the equal of Tyrone in the first half of the previous two encounters. Also, third time lucky...nothing to lose....

But it would be a massive shock and a defeat we haven't suffered since Sligo 2002. Laois were a decent enough side in 2006 and Tyrone were ravaged by injuries. Tyrone 2013 are not world beaters and I see them behind Donegal, Dublin, Kerry, Cork and Mayo but it would be some kick in the gonads to get to the Div 1 final, run the Dubs to a point minus Stephen O'Neill and then to get turfed out in Roscommon just as the teachers stretch the legs.

What way are the bookies seeing it?

Something like
Tyrone 1/8
Ros 6/1

I think it's fair to say all most Ros folk ( except Syfín ) are hoping for is that the players will deliver a decent performance for as long as possible and see where it takes us.
While beating Cavan/monaghan in Div 3 games was grand our display against Mayowr probably tells ye all ye want to know and them Bookies are reflecting that. :-\
Hopefully we can keep it to less than double figures :-[

Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 02:32:28 PM
Any of ye Tyrone bucks even remotely considering defeat???

Eh....No.

Anything is possible and I certainly didn't expect the facile victory over Offaly but that has made me more confident (but cautious) of a decent win v the Rossies.

I don't know why but for some reason there seems to be a huge gulf between the top 6 or 7 sides and then the rest this year. I reckon it's the whole new level that Donegal & Dublin have taken their training and attitude to. It's all much more professional now and so if you haven't bought into that full package then you're being found out and left behind.
The strength & conditioning alone with the top teams mean they are miles ahead of others.
Look how Kildare couldn't handle Dublin last weekend at all and they could have conceded 6 more goals yet Tyrone held the Dubs well in the league final without our best forward.

I agree with many that Tyrone are just about at that top table of 6 teams and even though they got close to Dublin in the league final I would be hesitant to put them above any of the teams below mainly because we haven't beaten any of them for 4 years in the championship.

Dublin
Donegal
Mayo
Kerry
Cork
Tyrone

Down could argue they deserve to be in that list too when you compare how well they did v Donegal this year. I just think those 6 teams are all capable of beating each other on a given day in Croker. Add in Kildare & Down and you have your 8 quarterfinalists depending of course that they don't meet before. I expect Cork or Kerry to be the only provincial losers to make it through.

Of course now I've said that we'll probably end up losing to Meath (again) or Monaghan.  ;)
Teams can often improve as the summer moves on. I remember beating Mayo back in 2008 and thinking we won't get much further as we didn't play well. Next match we hammered the Dubs & went on to win it outright. I think most realistic Tyrone fans don't think this team has that in them this year. I'd be happy to get to a semi final but I really can't see us beating Dublin or Donegal.
Cork of course could be very dark horses as they've hardly been mentioned at all this year.

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 03, 2013, 03:52:05 PM
. I reckon it's the whole new level that Donegal & Dublin have taken their training and attitude to. It's all much more professional now and so if you haven't bought into that full package then you're being found out and left behind.
The strength & conditioning alone with the top teams mean they are miles ahead of others.

"Supervalu Sam" in the Ros Herald this week commenting on the fact that there are 2 Counties who now seem to be in breach of amateurism.
One trains twice a day while the other's players have "three meals a day delivered to their homes" and has a back room team so vast  "that some of the areas catered for border on the ridiculous".

The fact is that the small Counties are still amateur while a few others have in effect become "professional" in all but name.
I'm sure they'll tell us to go off and raise our own money but where in the name of God can €1m be found in a County like Roscommon whose biggest town has about the same population as an Estate in the East of the country, there are no major Multi Nationals or local big business empires especially since the end of the Property bubble burst a few empires.
Not to mention our second biggest town's GAA club affiliating to another place.
At least in the old days if a County could produce good footballers you were in with a shout of winning things as most Counties' preparations were at similar level.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 04:20:50 PM

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 03, 2013, 03:52:05 PM
. I reckon it's the whole new level that Donegal & Dublin have taken their training and attitude to. It's all much more professional now and so if you haven't bought into that full package then you're being found out and left behind.
The strength & conditioning alone with the top teams mean they are miles ahead of others.

"Supervalu Sam" in the Ros Herald this week commenting on the fact that there are 2 Counties who now seem to be in breach of amateurism.
One trains twice a day while the other's players have "three meals a day delivered to their homes" and has a back room team so vast  "that some of the areas catered for border on the ridiculous".

The fact is that the small Counties are still amateur while a few others have in effect become "professional" in all but name.
I'm sure they'll tell us to go off and raise our own money but where in the name of God can €1m be found in a County like Roscommon whose biggest town has about the same population as an Estate in the East of the country, there are no major Multi Nationals or local big business empires especially since the end of the Property bubble burst a few empires.
Not to mention our second biggest town's GAA club affiliating to another place.
At least in the old days if a County could produce good footballers you were in with a shout of winning things as most Counties' preparations were at similar level.

What have those Castlerea bollixs done now? Has Nige climbed the pole outside the courthouse and hoisted up a Mayo flag?

Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 04:49:18 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 04:20:50 PM

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 03, 2013, 03:52:05 PM
. I reckon it's the whole new level that Donegal & Dublin have taken their training and attitude to. It's all much more professional now and so if you haven't bought into that full package then you're being found out and left behind.
The strength & conditioning alone with the top teams mean they are miles ahead of others.

"Supervalu Sam" in the Ros Herald this week commenting on the fact that there are 2 Counties who now seem to be in breach of amateurism.
One trains twice a day while the other's players have "three meals a day delivered to their homes" and has a back room team so vast  "that some of the areas catered for border on the ridiculous".

The fact is that the small Counties are still amateur while a few others have in effect become "professional" in all but name.
I'm sure they'll tell us to go off and raise our own money but where in the name of God can €1m be found in a County like Roscommon whose biggest town has about the same population as an Estate in the East of the country, there are no major Multi Nationals or local big business empires especially since the end of the Property bubble burst a few empires.
Not to mention our second biggest town's GAA club affiliating to another place.
At least in the old days if a County could produce good footballers you were in with a shout of winning things as most Counties' preparations were at similar level.

What have those Castlerea bollixs done now? Has Nige climbed the pole outside the courthouse and hoisted up a Mayo flag?

Was just talking to a lad I work with from Balaghadereen today.  What the hell is going on there?  There's even a dump between Ross and Mayo at this point and they still want to support Mayo.  Weird.

Ros will win this.

Quote from: muppet on July 03, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
Ros will win this.

If we win do we get those nifty GPS bras as trophies?

Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 08:28:57 PM

Quote from: muppet on July 03, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
Ros will win this.

If we win do we get those nifty GPS bras as trophies?

Er, yes you need them. I've seen yer women.

Quote from: muppet on July 03, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
Ros will win this.

pourquoi?

Quote from: muppet on July 03, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
Ros will win this.

They always win.
But the fairies change the results.

Stevie hasn't much luck with injuries.


Tyrone will again be without Stephen O'Neill as they prepare to face Roscommon in the All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers on Saturday.

O'Neill has been struggling with an Achilles injury and was an absentee in the Red Hand's thumping win over Offaly last weekend.

The forward will hope to see action this summer, and if Mickey Harte's side win at Hyde Park on Saturday they will have a fortnight to get ready for their next date in the back-door leaving O'Neill more time to prove his fitness.

Yeah I believe its his achilles again which he did remember before the league final in that wee indoor pitch in Croker.

Have many of ye ever seen it? I expected it to be a large enough pitch but its quite small and you'd have to wonder why do they bother using it at all. Surely it's inevitable that someone would stand on a ball or get hurt there as it must be so crowded. Do they not get enough warm-up out on the main pitch?

I believe Carlin's nose is nearly better but he too has hurt his achilles. Both Justy & Joey should be fit if needed. I wonder will Mickey t**ker again?

What's the latest with Brendan Donie Shine? I

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 04, 2013, 11:37:27 AM
Yeah I believe its his achilles again which he did remember before the league final in that wee indoor pitch in Croker.

Have many of ye ever seen it? I expected it to be a large enough pitch but its quite small and you'd have to wonder why do they bother using it at all. Surely it's inevitable that someone would stand on a ball or get hurt there as it must be so crowded. Do they not get enough warm-up out on the main pitch?

I believe Carlin's nose is nearly better but he too has hurt his achilles. Both Justy & Joey should be fit if needed. I wonder will Mickey t**ker again?

What's the latest with Brendan Donie Shine? I

Fit as a 6'5'' fiddle and ready for Pascal McConnell if he wants to resume throwing shapes from last year.

It'd be a real BOD end for SON if we won and he retired. Tripping over a ball? Even the greats are human. Missed last year too and only came on as a sub in the 2011 game.

Any word on an oul' teameen at all?

Going by the crap in Prentypark I'd be bold and go with -

             Darrenín O'Malley,
Seanín Mac, Collins, Seanín Purcell,
Carty, Ianín Kilbride, one of the Dalys
           Finnín, Cathalín Shine
Keenan, Karlín Mannion, Conorín Devaney
Colín Compton, Donín Shine, Donín Smith

1. Pascal McConnell – An Baile Nua
2. Ryan McKenna – Eaglais
3. Joe McMahon – An Omaigh
4. Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór
5. Conor Clarke – An Omaigh
6. Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin
7. Conor Gormley – An Charraig Mhór
8. Colm Cavanagh – An Mhaigh
9. Sean Cavanagh – An Mhaigh
10. Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac
11. Mark Donnelly – An Charraig Mhór
12. Ciaran McGinley – Aireagal Chiaráin
13. Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc
14. Martin Penrose – An Charraig Mhór
15. Connor McAliskey – Cluain Eo

16. Michael O'Neill – Cluain Eo
17. Aidan Cassidy – Eochar
18. Kyle Coney – Ard Bó
19. Kevin Gallagher – An Baile Nua
20. Conan Grugan – An Omaigh
21. Plunkett Kane – Oileán a'Ghuail
22. Jonathan Lafferty – Urnaí
23. Danny McBride – An Srath Ban
24. Tiernan McCann – Coill an Chlochair
25. Aidan McCrory – Aireagal Chiaráin
26. Justin McMahon – An Omaigh

And tiinker with the team Mickey did!

Was hoping McBride would get another go -thought he did ok last week though it was difficult game to judge him on. Would have rather got another look at him ahead of McKenna or McGinley.

Just the one change?

I suppose Joe hard to leave out.

Ronan O'Neill injured again?

Mickey picks his subs alphabetically.

Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2013, 12:05:24 AM

Quote from: muppet on July 03, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
Ros will win this.

pourquoi?

That post was not meant for either Tyronies or indeed any sane person.

Ros will win this.

Here Rossfan and Syferus. A big Rhubarb to clutch at.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2013, 02:22:58 PM
Any word on an oul' teameen at all?

Going by the crap in Prentypark I'd be bold and go with -

             Darrenín O'Malley,
Seanín Mac, Collins, Seanín Purcell,
Carty, Ianín Kilbride, one of the Dalys
           Finnín, Cathalín Shine
Keenan, Karlín Mannion, Conorín Devaney
Colín Compton, Donín Shine, Donín Smith

On a diet?

Last time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaF7Uh5GuM

Quote from: ONeill on July 05, 2013, 12:52:41 AM
Last time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaF7Uh5GuM

It's all been a ruse, O'Neill.

We didn't play the second half the last two years just to tee you up for Sarurday. Some people don't believe in long-term planning but the Rossies are tough nuts.

Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2013, 12:55:35 AM
Some people don't believe in long-term planning but the Rossies are tough nuts.

Indeed, though I believe it's a 10-year planning cycle! Sorry. ;)

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 04, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
Was hoping McBride would get another go -thought he did ok last week though it was difficult game to judge him on. Would have rather got another look at him ahead of McKenna or McGinley.

Disappointed in the team myself, McBride should have retained his place and Penrose seems to be an automatic starter these days irrelevant of performance.  As mentioned before, the main problem we have is in our forward line.  Penrose isn't going to do a lot of damage neither is McGinley.  Big question marks over Mark Donnelly as well.  Would rather have seen Lafferty, Coney and O'Neill in there, all 3 are scoring machines.

Quote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2013, 09:13:13 AM

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 04, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
Was hoping McBride would get another go -thought he did ok last week though it was difficult game to judge him on. Would have rather got another look at him ahead of McKenna or McGinley.

Disappointed in the team myself, McBride should have retained his place and Penrose seems to be an automatic starter these days irrelevant of performance.  As mentioned before, the main problem we have is in our forward line.  Penrose isn't going to do a lot of damage neither is McGinley.  Big question marks over Mark Donnelly as well.  Would rather have seen Lafferty, Coney and O'Neill in there, all 3 are scoring machines.

Sore on Penrose. Against Offaly he seemed to play much further forward than usual, winning the ball played in low in front and laying off to the two youngsters either side of him.

Quote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2013, 09:13:13 AM

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 04, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
Was hoping McBride would get another go -thought he did ok last week though it was difficult game to judge him on. Would have rather got another look at him ahead of McKenna or McGinley.

Disappointed in the team myself, McBride should have retained his place and Penrose seems to be an automatic starter these days irrelevant of performance.  As mentioned before, the main problem we have is in our forward line.  Penrose isn't going to do a lot of damage neither is McGinley.  Big question marks over Mark Donnelly as well.  Would rather have seen Lafferty, Coney and O'Neill in there, all 3 are scoring machines.

If you're suggesting that, I'd ask how many games have you been at this year?

I'd have Penrose at 5 or 7.
Push Sean Cavanagh into 14.

Disappointed in the line up also. Was hoping McBride would get another chance at 3. I would have thought that Mickey would be using these games to address the issues from the previous defeats, namely lack of a target man & over dependence in the short ball game. Stubborn man.

Quote from: tyrone86 on July 05, 2013, 09:43:34 AM

Quote from: nrico2006 on July 05, 2013, 09:13:13 AM

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 04, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
Was hoping McBride would get another go -thought he did ok last week though it was difficult game to judge him on. Would have rather got another look at him ahead of McKenna or McGinley.

Disappointed in the team myself, McBride should have retained his place and Penrose seems to be an automatic starter these days irrelevant of performance.  As mentioned before, the main problem we have is in our forward line.  Penrose isn't going to do a lot of damage neither is McGinley.  Big question marks over Mark Donnelly as well.  Would rather have seen Lafferty, Coney and O'Neill in there, all 3 are scoring machines.

If you're suggesting that, I'd ask how many games have you been at this year?

The only game really this year that has counted was the Donegal game and he didn't do much to be honest, as was the case in the big games over the past few seasons too.  He had a good league this year, but as everyone likes to say its a different game come championship.

Incredibly hard on Mark Donnelly, to be honest there were very little good performances in the Donegal game.

Ros team to defeat Tyrone tomorrow:

1. Darren O'Malley

2. Seanie Mc.
3. Niall Carty
4. Neil Collins

5. Paddy Brogan
6. Niall Daly
7. David Keenan

8. Cathal Shine
9. Mango

10. Ian Kilbride
11. Enda Smith
12. Cathal Cregg (c)

13. Donie Smith
14. Donie Shine
15. Colin Compton

David O'Gara, Senan Kilbride, Michael Finneran, Conor Daly, Kevin Higgins and Conor Devaney out.
Ian Kilbride, Enda Smith, Colin Compton, Cathal Shine, Big Donie (little Donie retains his place) and Paddy Brogan in.

Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2013, 05:56:32 PM
Ros team to defeat Tyrone tomorrow:

1. Darren O'Malley

2. Seanie Mc.
3. Niall Carty
4. Neil Collins

5. Paddy Brogan
6. Niall Daly
7. David Keenan

8. Cathal Shine
9. Mango

10. Ian Kilbride
11. Enda Smith
12. Cathal Cregg (c)

13. Donie Smith
14. Donie Shine
15. Colin Compton

David O'Gara, Senan Kilbride, Michael Finneran, Conor Daly, Kevin Higgins and Conor Devaney out.
Ian Kilbride, Enda Smith, Colin Compton, Cathal Shine, Big Donie (little Donie retains his place) and Paddy Brogan in.

You would think those two should be starters, injured?

Have bad vibes on this one, Roscommon +7 on the handicap is the call.

County teams don't win by 20 points two weeks in a row in gaelic football.

Strange throw-in time as well, the Tyrone dietician will earn his corn as it's between lunch & dinner.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 05, 2013, 06:21:10 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2013, 05:56:32 PM
Ros team to defeat Tyrone tomorrow:

1. Darren O'Malley

2. Seanie Mc.
3. Niall Carty
4. Neil Collins

5. Paddy Brogan
6. Niall Daly
7. David Keenan

8. Cathal Shine
9. Mango

10. Ian Kilbride
11. Enda Smith
12. Cathal Cregg (c)

13. Donie Smith
14. Donie Shine
15. Colin Compton

David O'Gara, Senan Kilbride, Michael Finneran, Conor Daly, Kevin Higgins and Conor Devaney out.
Ian Kilbride, Enda Smith, Colin Compton, Cathal Shine, Big Donie (little Donie retains his place) and Paddy Brogan in.

You would think those two should be starters, injured?

Form.

Senan hasn't looked right since his return from Brigid's, perhaps taking a break like Peter Domican would have been better for him but the lad committed to the panel. Not going to lambaste him for being below par, nor should any supporters. Still would have gambled on his talent and experience in a match like this but both Smithies and Compton are U21 players we have high hopes for so the more experience they get the better in the long run.

Finn probably dropped for more mobile options because of what Sean Cavanagh did to us two years ago running down the gut. Hopefully we don't sit back and admire him again this year.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 05, 2013, 06:21:10 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2013, 05:56:32 PM
Ros team to defeat Tyrone tomorrow:

1. Darren O'Malley

2. Seanie Mc.
3. Niall Carty
4. Neil Collins

5. Paddy Brogan
6. Niall Daly
7. David Keenan

8. Cathal Shine
9. Mango

10. Ian Kilbride
11. Enda Smith
12. Cathal Cregg (c)

13. Donie Smith
14. Donie Shine
15. Colin Compton

David O'Gara, Senan Kilbride, Michael Finneran, Conor Daly, Kevin Higgins and Conor Devaney out.
Ian Kilbride, Enda Smith, Colin Compton, Cathal Shine, Big Donie (little Donie retains his place) and Paddy Brogan in.

You would think those two should be starters, injured?

No official word on the team so I'll have to assume that gasúinín is repeating the team quoted on Stolensheep.
A few dramatic changes from the last day. Devaney and Finneran will feel hard done by .
Senan Kilbride was awful the last day as was Cregg mind you.
I presume we'll be keeping our two midfielders stationed between the 65s as neither of them are very mobile, Ian Kilbride will prob play behind mid field, Smithy jun in front of it with Keenan and Cregg doing the running.
Donie Shine will likely be placed on the edge of the Square with Smithy sen and Compton playing off him.
If workrate is the criteria expect early substitutions of the 2 Shines.

Right lads let's send these lads back home with red faces to go with their red hands.
                                                          ROS ABÚ

Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 04, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
Was hoping McBride would get another go -thought he did ok last week though it was difficult game to judge him on. Would have rather got another look at him ahead of McKenna or McGinley.

Don't think he would have any 'arn against donie shine!

Turns out the dastardly Zoro was wrong, this is the official team:

1 Darren O'Malley (CLG Michael Mac Laithimh)

2 Neil Collins (Naomh Caoimhin, Cáislean Riabhach)
3 Niall Carty     (Na Piarsaigh)
4 Seánie McDermott (Gaeil an Iarthair)

5 David Keenan  (Naomh Bearraí)
6 Niall Daly     (Na Phiarsaigh)
7 Conor Daly (Na Phiarsaigh)

8 Cathal Shine (Clann na nGael)
9 Mango (Naomh Bríd)

10 Kevin Higgins (Gaeil an Iarthair)
11 Big Donie (Clann na nGael)
12 Cathal Cregg (C) (Gaeil an Iarthair)

13 Little Donie (Mainistir na Buille)
14 Senan Kilbride  (Naomh Bríd)
15 Conor Devaney (Cill Bhríde)

Good to see Senan 'back' but the lack of Ian Kilbride is strange, probably our best HB and he's fit, at least according to Evans. Bar the two Kilbrides I'd probably preferred the other team. Happy to see Evans playing Higgins in his natural position of wing-forward, though.

Only changes from Mayo are Cathal Shine for Finn and Big Donie for David O'Gara.

Right. The niceties end now. Let's get tore into these banana men. 70 years ago they lifted the first of 2 in a row. They'll always have that over us and keep rubbing it in our faces any time we pass through going to America. We'll do this for Cavan 1943.

Quote from: ONeill on July 06, 2013, 09:04:15 AM
Right. The niceties end now. Let's get tore into these banana men. 70 years ago they lifted the first of 2 in a row. They'll always have that over us and keep rubbing it in our faces any time we pass through going to America. We'll do this for Cavan 1943.

The one thing you don't need to beat Roscommon, is an excuse.

You would need an excuse for not beating Roscommon!

It's nicely set up for a shock now. Big Sean gets taken off injured and Joey sent off.

Cathal Shine in the middle instead of Finneran, is finneran injured?

Ye will be killed this evening i reckon. S. kilbride was brilliant in club championship, he has obviously ran out of steam though for inter county season.  Can't believe i heard praise for evans interview yesterday on this forum, he has consigned himself to defeat before the ball is thrown in. Personally i think the mans a bit of dafty, well out of his depth as a one man band, a natural assistant not a leader of men.

"From that respect, if they can reduce the margin, if they can put in a huge performance and bring it to a respectable score, I think they'd go away more satisfied than they did out of Castlebar." Loser

COME ON TYRONE!!!!

Any decent streams or links?

QuoteAny decent streams or links?

Can't help there, but I do know of few indecent streams and links.

Quote from: under the bar on July 06, 2013, 03:02:30 PM
Any decent streams or links?

You're not really listening to the match if you're not listening to Willie Hegarty.

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 03:41:41 PM

Quote from: under the bar on July 06, 2013, 03:02:30 PM
Any decent streams or links?

You're not really listening to the match if you're not listening to Willie Hegarty.

He is great, Is he on Shannonside radio

He is in his hole 'great'.

Quote from: Jinxy on July 06, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
He is in his hole 'great'.

He is great, as long as you dont care about the game

Have a listen and a laugh.....

http://media.shannonside.ie/mediamanager/embed/player/

worth listening to this evening.

Quote from: give her dixie on July 06, 2013, 06:11:26 PM
Have a listen and a laugh.....

http://media.shannonside.ie/mediamanager/embed/player/

+1

Game is on newstalk. Nearly 15 minutes gone and Roscommon have just got the 1st point of the game

15 min in and ros go ahead

Bit of heart for a change thankfully but needed to have scored those early missed chances I fear.

I think that Donie Shine sr is much worse to listen to than the bould Willie

Ros 1-2 Tyrone 0-2

my bet on the spread seems safe enough! 

C.Devanny with a goal for Ros.1.02 to 0.02

Seems that D.shine should have got red instead of yellow and of course not a word from Donie sr

Showing plenty of fight. Defensive game and we haven't expended too much energy.

Tyrone will go for the jugular in the first 15 of the second half. Survive that and all bets are well and truly off the table.

Could be in trouble here...

Roscommon 1-02  0-05 Tyrone HT

I think Ros will have breeze for 2ind half.You would expect Tyrone to up the pace and run out winners.I think this is the first time that Willie and Donie have seen the blanket defenses as they seem shocked by what they are seeing.

It's live on Newstalk also. Not sure if Roscommon can maintain work rate.

Tyrone have taken complete control and lead by 4 points.Of course Donie sr blaming the ref for roscommons woes

The local commentators are absolutely brilliant.

"The bearded man is Joe McMahon, he stood toe to toe with Kieran Donnelly and Tommy Welsh".  "Tyrone are heading down the field now in the direction of the car garage, you could pick up a nice 2011 Toyota Avensis" ;D

'Puke football' invoked by the commentator. Not that I can comment given that I'm not there, but in neutrality terms it's more Nazi Germany than Switzerland.

Put more turf on the fire Mary Ann ....lol classic

"Cathal Cregg was dragged down the same way you would grab a sheep to throw him in the dip" ;D ;D

ros back in the game.Down by 2.

Two bad wides by Ros.Looks like tyrone will prevail

Jeez a goal for Ros would be like a nuclear explosion

Plz let the Rossies get a goal
Could be a great day for the orchard and we aren't even playing 8)

"Full Duck, or no dinner"

"One last chance now, full duck or no dinner"

tough luck for the Rossies.but tyrone move on.

After hearing that the BBQ is on.

All over. No dinner

"Roscommon have died with their boots on, it will just be a barbecue next Sunday, no football, but Gerry Keenan the butcher will supply you with steaks, sausages, rashers, you name it"

"There was no bad tackles in it.  Now I know Karol Mannion caught a fella around the neck, but even if you're caught bad around the neck there is no call for lying down"  ;D ;D

Great effort. Could have won it. Once we pushed up we had our chances but lack of composure meant we were unable to take them.

Proud of the lads. Showed the spirit and courage we've seen them show at underage and club level for years. Could have won it late but so what. Evans has us in a better place than Fergie left us in two years ago and we can build a team from the pieces we have.

D2 here we come.

Absolutely hilarious, Hailly Mary shame I only got 20 minutes.

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
D2 here we come.

Are ye off to Leeson Street for the night or something? ;D

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 06, 2013, 09:01:32 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
D2 here we come.

Are ye off to Leeson Street for the night or something? ;D

Drink on yer heads, huh? Explains today's performance anyways 8)

Poor game with close exciting finish. Tyrone were there for the taking today but they were let off the hook,  if Tyrone go scoreless in the next game for the first 15 mins and last 15 they will be beaten.

Proud of the lads a decent effort put in but just came up short. Our priority is to get out of div 3 now and to correct you Syferus, Evans has us in a better place now than Newton left us in last year.

Fergie left us after losing to Mayo-Tyrone too, and an 11 point loss to an inferior Tyrone team than the one we played today. We're at the same level again but the worst thing we could do is sit back and be glad with a moral victory, we need the lads to be hungry to make the next step after today.

Evans looks he has ideas so hopefully the county board support him properly in terms of his training programs for the off-season.

Quote from: AFS on July 06, 2013, 09:52:08 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Fergie left us after losing to Mayo-Tyrone too, and an 11 point loss to an inferior Tyrone team than the one we played today. We're at the same level again but the worst thing we could do is sit back and be glad with a moral victory, we need the lads to be hungry to make the next step after today.

Evans looks he has ideas so hopefully the county board support him properly in terms of his training programs for the off-season.

Lolz.

You're high if you think Tyrone were a better team in 2011 than 2013. Not even at the races that year and the level of competition at the top end was lower than it is this year. Tyrone were in (and stayed in) Division 2 in 2011 to boot so you really haven't a leg to stand on.

Phew...that was dodgy. We learned f**k all last week, this week we learned we can't just show up and walk into the next round. Very lucky today and need to have the heads right from the first whistle or we'll be dumped out on our holes in a fortnight.

Anyway onwards and upwards. Another good outing for McCurry, fair play to the lad.

Out of jail. Had Ros shown a little more composure in the dying minutes they could easily have sneaked it, and deservedly so.

Re the refereeing: don't want to say too much, save to say that someone who's patently learning the craft at this level shouldn't be let out on his own!

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Fergie left us after losing to Mayo-Tyrone too, and an 11 point loss to an inferior Tyrone team than the one we played today. We're at the same level again but the worst thing we could do is sit back and be glad with a moral victory, we need the lads to be hungry to make the next step after today.

Evans looks he has ideas so hopefully the county board support him properly in terms of his training programs for the off-season.

That game was never 11 point match in million years and inferior Tyrone? not sure about that as they were able to call upon the likes McMenamin,Hughes,McGuigan,Mulligan,O'Neill,Dooher etc back then. We got within two points of Mayo who knocked out the defending All Ireland championship in the following game.

6 month break now & huge work to be done. The longer we stay in div 3 the more bad habits we will develop. Evans said himself he won't be hanging around if he doesn't see improvement so 2014 is a huge year for him and the players to make the step up.

Quote from: EC Unique on July 01, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
I doubt if Roscommon will pose any more opposition than We got on Saturday past. Tyrone by at least 10 points. Yawn...

Well sleepy head any after match views?

Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2013, 10:18:48 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Fergie left us after losing to Mayo-Tyrone too, and an 11 point loss to an inferior Tyrone team than the one we played today. We're at the same level again but the worst thing we could do is sit back and be glad with a moral victory, we need the lads to be hungry to make the next step after today.

Evans looks he has ideas so hopefully the county board support him properly in terms of his training programs for the off-season.

That game was never 11 point match in million years and inferior Tyrone? not sure about that as they were able to call upon the likes McMenamin,Hughes,McGuigan,Mulligan,O'Neill,Dooher etc back then. We got within two points of Mayo who knocked out the defending All Ireland championship in the following game.

6 month break now & huge work to be done. The longer we stay in div 3 the more bad habits we will develop. Evans said himself he won't be hanging around if he doesn't see improvement so 2014 is a huge year for him and the players to make the step up.

I think for lack of a better word most of those players were shot by 2011, certainly in terms of the top level of opposition. The current team, even if we put the squeeze on them today, look like they're going places over the next few years. They're building and going in the right direction whereas in 2011 they were continuing their post-2008 slide.

Anyways, well done to Tyrone. Always enjoy Ulster opposition, good atmosphere, good fans and good tough games. Still see Tyrone making the AIQFs but I think they'd need to draw the Munster champions to make it further than that.

Just home after a few sorrow drowning pints.
Great gutsy display by our lads as we followed a game plan -even if it was hard to watch with 10 or 12 defenders - and as Fear says above a biteen of composure at the end we'd have won it.
Proud of the lads the way they fought and respected the jersey but tempered by realism that when the game was there for the taking we weren't good enough to take it.
Tyrone weren't hectic and unless they get a soft draw ( herrins?? them jammy bsatards  >:() won't be troubling Croke Park in August.
Evans and the panel need to sit down in a few weeks and plot their winter training/conditioning schedule. He also needs to go to Club Championship games and see who else might catch the eye and also see how the panel members show up in testing situations.
Looking forward to 2014 already.
Now for the Minors and U16s.

P S ye lads that heard Hegarty and Shine for the first time - now ye know why some of us go to games - it's to avoid listening to their absolute bolxology.
PPS - very poor Ros turn out in the  3,542 official attendance plus the U16s who get in free.
Where were the rest of the mythical 20,000 that were in Ennis????

Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2013, 10:38:01 PM
Just home after a few sorrow drowning pints.
Great gutsy display by our lads as we followed a game plan -even if it was hard to watch with 10 or 12 defenders - and as Fear says above a biteen of composure at the end we'd have won it.
Proud of the lads the way they fought and respected the jersey but tempered by realism that when the game was there for the taking we weren't good enough to take it.
Tyrone weren't hectic and unless they get a soft draw ( herrins?? them jammy bsatards  >:() won't be troubling Croke Park in August.
Evans and the panel need to sit down in a few weeks and plot their winter training/conditioning schedule. He also needs to go to Club Championship games and see who else might catch the eye and also see how the panel members show up in testing situations.
Looking forward to 2014 already.
Now for the Minors and U16s.

P S ye lads that heard Hegarty and Shine for the first time - now ye know why some of us go to games - it's to avoid listening to their absolute bolxology.
PPS -poor ros turn out

As taught by Willie.

Legend.

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 10:27:30 PM
Still see Tyrone making the AIQFs but I think they'd need to draw the Munster champions to make it further than that.

In round four if Tyrone draw Monaghan,Meath or London they should reach the quarter finals however if they draw Kerry or Cork they will be knocked out.

Cork/Kerry would easily beat that Tyrone team.
The gasúinín seems to think that Cork and Kerry are around the same standard as the rest of them in Munster as he's too young to remember them winning Sam in 2009/2010. ;D

Hard luck to the Rossies - would have been mighty to beat Tyrone but at least ye put up a decent show

As stated elsewhere on here, it's not often that a losing team feels like they've done better than a winning team (Galway)

Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2013, 11:10:33 PM
Cork/Kerry would easily beat that Tyrone team.
The gasúinín seems to think that Cork and Kerry are around the same standard as the rest of them in Munster as he's too young to remember them winning Sam in 2009/2010. ;D

Cork might spark into life but Kerry will need the respirators long before the final whistle. A great team on its way out, no more and no less.

Tyrone-Kerry this year would mimic Donegal-Kerry last year, and probably with a similar result.

From a Tyrone standpoint,very fortunate to get away with a result and on the evidence of today's performance will need a good draw in the next round to progress any further.As has been said,Roscommon had enough chances in the last ten minutes of the game to get a draw at least and had they pushed a few more bodies forward earlier than when they did they could have won the game. First half was poor stuff with both sides packing the defence and despite Tyrone playing with the breeze,they played with a non-existent half forward line and seemed more intent on sniffing out Roscommon rather than taking the game to them and forcing the issue. Apart from a 15 minute period at the start of the second half Tyrone were toothless up front and Tyrones best forward was probably Ciaran McGinley playing as an extra defender. Defence fairly solid in general,best we're probably McMahon,Gormley and Harte seeming much more comfortable at 6.

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2013, 10:18:07 PM
Out of jail. Had Ros shown a little more composure in the dying minutes they could easily have sneaked it, and deservedly so.

Re the refereeing: don't want to say too much, save to say that someone who's patently learning the craft at this level shouldn't be let out on his own!

+1 Not often if ever I agree with you but have to make an exception this time. Rossies definitely could have won it but ref definitely favoured us in the 1st half. Donie Shine and Conor Daly should have walked for 2nd/3rd/4th yellow offences. Best of luck to Tyrone going forward.

Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2013, 10:22:32 PM

Quote from: EC Unique on July 01, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
I doubt if Roscommon will pose any more opposition than We got on Saturday past. Tyrone by at least 10 points. Yawn...

Well sleepy head any after match views?

Tyrone reserves did the first team proud! Hopefully we will have more of our best starting 15 available for the next day.

Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2013, 10:18:48 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Fergie left us after losing to Mayo-Tyrone too, and an 11 point loss to an inferior Tyrone team than the one we played today. We're at the same level again but the worst thing we could do is sit back and be glad with a moral victory, we need the lads to be hungry to make the next step after today.

Evans looks he has ideas so hopefully the county board support him properly in terms of his training programs for the off-season.

That game was never 11 point match in million years and inferior Tyrone? not sure about that as they were able to call upon the likes McMenamin,Hughes,McGuigan,Mulligan,O'Neill,Dooher etc back then. We got within two points of Mayo who knocked out the defending All Ireland championship in the following game.

6 month break now & huge work to be done. The longer we stay in div 3 the more bad habits we will develop. Evans said himself he won't be hanging around if he doesn't see improvement so 2014 is a huge year for him and the players to make the step up.

+1 Syferus stop trying to defend/gloss over Newton disasterous set back 2012 season. As Ross4life rightly points out Fergie had us within 2 points of a fine Mayo side and playing excellent football in Croker against a much better resourced Tyrone side than today's. Agree with you re Evans having a plan and on the right track  but if Fergie had stayed on we would never have fallen this far back.

Quote from: EC Unique on July 06, 2013, 11:50:53 PM

Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2013, 10:22:32 PM

Quote from: EC Unique on July 01, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
I doubt if Roscommon will pose any more opposition than We got on Saturday past. Tyrone by at least 10 points. Yawn...

Well sleepy head any after match views?

Tyrone reserves did the first team proud! Hopefully we will have more of our best starting 15 available for the next day.

Pathetic response from a pathetic poster.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 06, 2013, 09:01:32 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
D2 here we come.

Are ye off to Leeson Street for the night or something? ;D

Hardly a day for Herron chokers to be slagging off Rossies or any other team for that matter is it GBB? Fair play to ye. Ye caught the Waterford footballers with a late goal. Always knew this fixture was a potential banana skin for waterford....Anyway enjoy the celebrations..... big scalp!

Quote from: EC Unique on July 06, 2013, 11:50:53 PM
Tyrone reserves did the first team proud! Hopefully we will have more of our best starting 15 available for the next day.

I'd say Roscommon were missing more, they did rest Kilbride and Finneran after all. Tyrone v Armagh in round three? Armagh are due a win in that fixture.

Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 07, 2013, 12:06:47 AM

Quote from: EC Unique on July 06, 2013, 11:50:53 PM
Tyrone reserves did the first team proud! Hopefully we will have more of our best starting 15 available for the next day.

I'd say Roscommon were missing more, they did rest Kilbride and Finneran after all. Tyrone v Armagh in round three? Armagh are due a win in that fixture.

I saw Emlyn Mulligan at the match today, cheering on his second favourite county.

Real pity his calf means he's such a big doubt for the game because if he was fit (and the other lads stayed away from the drink for a few weeks) Leitrim would have had a real cut at the Apples in Carrick.

Tyrone went looking a win and got a win. Mission accomplished. This is championship football where a one point win is as good as 10.

So in that respect it's a job done.

But that's all it was.

Roscommon could well have won the game. I was going to say that Rocommon could have stolen the game but that wouldn't be fair to Roscommon.

A wee bit of composure would have seen them win the game.

Quote from: EC Unique on July 06, 2013, 11:50:53 PM

Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2013, 10:22:32 PM

Quote from: EC Unique on July 01, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
I doubt if Roscommon will pose any more opposition than We got on Saturday past. Tyrone by at least 10 points. Yawn...

Well sleepy head any after match views?

Tyrone reserves did the first team proud! Hopefully we will have more of our best starting 15 available for the next day.

Tyrone reserves my arse.

One change from the 20 point win over Offaly with Joe McMahon back, 10 of the side today started against Donegal & if the likes of McConnell,McCurry had started that game you might have got closer to Donegal.

Quote from: ross matt on July 06, 2013, 11:47:41 PM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2013, 10:18:07 PM
Out of jail. Had Ros shown a little more composure in the dying minutes they could easily have sneaked it, and deservedly so.

Re the refereeing: don't want to say too much, save to say that someone who's patently learning the craft at this level shouldn't be let out on his own!

+1 Not often if ever I agree with you but have to make an exception this time. Rossies definitely could have won it but ref definitely favoured us in the 1st half. Donie Shine and Conor Daly should have walked for 2nd/3rd/4th yellow offences. Best of luck to Tyrone going forward.

Good man, all concurrences accepted gratefully!  ;)

In our defence, it was the 2nd successive week away on a long road and it showed, we'll be glad of the rest next weekend.

Paddy B was really driving the tractor hard today.

..:-[

Thought a lot of the young lads showed well, Niall Daly, Cathal Shine, Enda Smith in what little he got forward, Neil Collins, Comp when he came on.

Today reminded me of the way Donegal played in 2011 (lower level but as good a basis to work from as any), we were doing well frustrating with good defence but we haven't really figured out how to break into attack properly. To do those tactics justice you need to be in top shape because the demands are so great on players' bodies if they all have to drop back into defence and then break forward 30 or 40 times a game. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal if we get them into the best shape of their lifes.

Now's Evan's chance to earn his stripes by getting the lads' diets and training regimes set for the next six months.

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
Paddy B was really driving the tractor hard today.

..:-[

Thought a lot of the young lads showed well, Niall Daly, Cathal Shine, Enda Smith in what little he got forward, Neil Collins, Comp when he came on.

Today reminded me of the way Donegal played in 2011 (lower level but as good a basis to work from as any), we were doing well frustrating with good defence but we haven't really figured out how to break into attack properly. To do those tactics justice you need to be in top shape because the demands are so great on players' bodies if they all have to drop back into defence and then break forward 30 or 40 times a game. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal if we get them into the best shape of their lifes.

Now's Evan's chance to earn his stripes by getting the lads' diets and training regimes set for the next six months.

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Quote from: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 01:43:26 AM

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
Paddy B was really driving the tractor hard today.

..:-[

Thought a lot of the young lads showed well, Niall Daly, Cathal Shine, Enda Smith in what little he got forward, Neil Collins, Comp when he came on.

Today reminded me of the way Donegal played in 2011 (lower level but as good a basis to work from as any), we were doing well frustrating with good defence but we haven't really figured out how to break into attack properly. To do those tactics justice you need to be in top shape because the demands are so great on players' bodies if they all have to drop back into defence and then break forward 30 or 40 times a game. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal if we get them into the best shape of their lifes.

Now's Evan's chance to earn his stripes by getting the lads' diets and training regimes set for the next six months.

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When Donie's climbing the heavens and slotting goals past a hapless David Clarke ala Mike Murphy (not the Winning Streak lad) you won't be so smart 8)

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 02:07:51 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 01:43:26 AM

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
Paddy B was really driving the tractor hard today.

..:-[

Thought a lot of the young lads showed well, Niall Daly, Cathal Shine, Enda Smith in what little he got forward, Neil Collins, Comp when he came on.

Today reminded me of the way Donegal played in 2011 (lower level but as good a basis to work from as any), we were doing well frustrating with good defence but we haven't really figured out how to break into attack properly. To do those tactics justice you need to be in top shape because the demands are so great on players' bodies if they all have to drop back into defence and then break forward 30 or 40 times a game. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal if we get them into the best shape of their lifes.

Now's Evan's chance to earn his stripes by getting the lads' diets and training regimes set for the next six months.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFGA772XGtlcO0JVpZfCdVTWmTBU9GA-pPzSiqL-GQnWn6q5mpUA)

When Donie's climbing the heavens and slotting goals past a hapless David Clarke ala Mike Murphy (not the Winning Streak lad) you won't be so smart 8)

In truth i would not begrudge you that day (if we sort out our day beforehand)! ;)

Quote from: ross matt on July 07, 2013, 12:03:36 AM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 06, 2013, 09:01:32 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
D2 here we come.

Are ye off to Leeson Street for the night or something? ;D

Hardly a day for Herron chokers to be slagging off Rossies or any other team for that matter is it GBB? Fair play to ye. Ye caught the Waterford footballers with a late goal. Always knew this fixture was a potential banana skin for waterford....Anyway enjoy the celebrations..... big scalp!

Jesus H Christ lads I was only messing and I have 2 Rossies getting thick with me over f**k all. I will say nothing in future. I said far worse about Galway earlier today on here. Grow up a bit lads and wind the neck in.

Quote from: ross matt on July 06, 2013, 11:57:14 PM

Quote from: EC Unique on July 06, 2013, 11:50:53 PM

Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2013, 10:22:32 PM

Quote from: EC Unique on July 01, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
I doubt if Roscommon will pose any more opposition than We got on Saturday past. Tyrone by at least 10 points. Yawn...

Well sleepy head any after match views?

Tyrone reserves did the first team proud! Hopefully we will have more of our best starting 15 available for the next day.

Pathetic response from a pathetic poster.

Lighten up lad I was joking.

Ross did well to be so close but the end result is the same. Complacency probably had a part to play from Tyrones point of view. We seen it a few weeks ago with Down getting so close to donegal. What happened Down then? They were dumped out by an average Derry side. All about being in the hat.

Decent performance from a team that finally played with a bit of pride. Not sure about the massed defence, it aint nice to watch. Plenty of work needs to start now to prepare the team for next year. We need to get out of Division 3.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 03:35:07 AM

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 02:07:51 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 01:43:26 AM

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
Paddy B was really driving the tractor hard today.

..:-[

Thought a lot of the young lads showed well, Niall Daly, Cathal Shine, Enda Smith in what little he got forward, Neil Collins, Comp when he came on.

Today reminded me of the way Donegal played in 2011 (lower level but as good a basis to work from as any), we were doing well frustrating with good defence but we haven't really figured out how to break into attack properly. To do those tactics justice you need to be in top shape because the demands are so great on players' bodies if they all have to drop back into defence and then break forward 30 or 40 times a game. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal if we get them into the best shape of their lifes.

Now's Evan's chance to earn his stripes by getting the lads' diets and training regimes set for the next six months.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFGA772XGtlcO0JVpZfCdVTWmTBU9GA-pPzSiqL-GQnWn6q5mpUA)

When Donie's climbing the heavens and slotting goals past a hapless David Clarke ala Mike Murphy (not the Winning Streak lad) you won't be so smart 8)

In truth i would not begrudge you that day (if we sort out our day beforehand)! ;)

Why would you not begrudge him that day, you as a Mayo supporter would not mind if Roscommmon started beating Mayo so long as we land an all Ireland before hand? Holy shit, thank f**k you do not represent Mayo. When (not if) we win Sam, we will want more and we will establish a culture where Mayo are challenging for Sam on a regular basis , Mayo belong at the top table and when we get there, we will like f**k be reverting to type and meekly surrendering provincial dominance because we have achieved one all Ireland.

Thank god upcoming generations will rid of this culture where Mayo people think they are undeserving , that mindset need gone.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 03:35:07 AM

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 02:07:51 AM
. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal

In truth i would not begrudge you that day (if we sort out our day beforehand)! ;)

Donie and Senan wouldn't be let near the Donegal team bus never mind the panel.
If we are to be challenging  in the higher reaches neither of them will be any more than bit part panel members as they aren't hard working enough.
Donie was our worst player by far today and  Evans left Senan on the bench for 65 minutes for a reason.
Our future will be lads like Donie Smith, Compton,  the Dalys, Collins, Cathal Shine plus a few younger additions and whatever of the older lads survive the cull.

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
Paddy B was really driving the tractor hard today.

..:-[

Thought a lot of the young lads showed well, Niall Daly, Cathal Shine, Enda Smith in what little he got forward, Neil Collins, Comp when he came on.

Today reminded me of the way Donegal played in 2011 (lower level but as good a basis to work from as any), we were doing well frustrating with good defence but we haven't really figured out how to break into attack properly. To do those tactics justice you need to be in top shape because the demands are so great on players' bodies if they all have to drop back into defence and then break forward 30 or 40 times a game. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal if we get them into the best shape of their lifes.

Now's Evan's chance to earn his stripes by getting the lads' diets and training regimes set for the next six months.

What sort of a tractor was it ?

There is only one man to blame for our collapse at the end and that's Paddy Hunter on q101. The eejit was chattig about the game being wrapped up with 15 minutes to go, who we might get in the next round and how Mickey Harte was wise bringing on the younger lads now the game was over!

Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2013, 10:30:39 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 03:35:07 AM

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 02:07:51 AM
. Likewise you need two good target men and in Donie and Senan we have the players to do a good impression of Donegal

In truth i would not begrudge you that day (if we sort out our day beforehand)! ;)

Donie and Senan wouldn't be let near the Donegal team bus never mind the panel.
If we are to be challenging  in the higher reaches neither of them will be any more than bit part panel members as they aren't hard working enough.
Donie was our worst player by far today and  Evans left Senan on the bench for 65 minutes for a reason.
Our future will be lads like Donie Smith, Compton,  the Dalys, Collins, Cathal Shine plus a few younger additions and whatever of the older lads survive the cull.

To do what Evans was trying yesterday (and to lesser extents throughout the league) you need a big lad able to win his own ball, get the defence's attention and still be a threat to slot the ball over. Otherwise you have a headless team that can defend but can't attack.

Donie was beat to pretty much every ball sent in to him when he was playing 14 yesterday, but it was clear the hamstring has slowed him down and even before that he wasn't the fastest buck we had by any means. Senan came on and caught a wonderful ball with two Tyrone defenders around him, the lad is very obviously talented.

Evans likes his big target men by all accounts so it's his job to properly motivate both of them for the off-season because we've never really seen either at their physical peaks. If we see them fit as a fiddle and still under-performing you have a point but until we do it'd be folly for a county of our size to be thinking about casting them aside.

Donie is more suited to playing midfield if he can pick up the fitness enough to play the position, as for not making the donegal panel, thats a bit of a joke, after no.18 donegal bench is very weak

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 07, 2013, 02:14:37 PM
Donie is more suited to playing midfield if he can pick up the fitness enough to play the position, as for not making the donegal panel, thats a bit of a joke, after no.18 donegal bench is very weak

Neither of the 2 boys have the intensity or competitiveness levels or work rate needed for serious top level Senior inter County Championship football or for Jimmy McGuinness' panel.
2 grand lads but such is life.
They can still do a job for us in D3 though.

Quote from: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 12:10:04 AM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 07, 2013, 12:06:47 AM

Quote from: EC Unique on July 06, 2013, 11:50:53 PM
Tyrone reserves did the first team proud! Hopefully we will have more of our best starting 15 available for the next day.

I'd say Roscommon were missing more, they did rest Kilbride and Finneran after all. Tyrone v Armagh in round three? Armagh are due a win in that fixture.

I saw Emlyn Mulligan at the match today, cheering on his second favourite county.

Real pity his calf means he's such a big doubt for the game because if he was fit (and the other lads stayed away from the drink for a few weeks) Leitrim would have had a real cut at the Apples in Carrick.

emlyn mulligan ‏@emlynmulligan

Was in the Hyde yesterday at Roscommon Tyrone game..Roscommon could have easily won it..missed some great chances in the last 10mins!

Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2013, 03:43:02 PM

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 07, 2013, 02:14:37 PM
Donie is more suited to playing midfield if he can pick up the fitness enough to play the position, as for not making the donegal panel, thats a bit of a joke, after no.18 donegal bench is very weak

Neither of the 2 boys have the intensity or competitiveness levels or work rate needed for serious top level Senior inter County Championship football or for Jimmy McGuinness' panel.
2 grand lads but such is life.
They can still do a job for us in D3 though.

I would agree with most of that Rossfan. The last time I saw both of them do well together on a big day was against Tyrone in Croker 2 years ago. But then there was long high ball played in and lots of space to turn and shoot. The game has moved on alot from that in the last 2 years though.

It's hard to see where what's the correct way to go from here for Roscommon. The blanket defence worked well the last day but it's limited and ugly to watch and eventually you have to push up and try winning the match. When we did so we weren't able to take the numerous chances that presented themselves. Shine and Kilbride are our most natural scoring forwards but as you point out it's unlikely they can ever be developed enough in terms of fitness and intensity to play this type of game. I think alot of people talking about the Donegal system fail to realise how well conditioned Murphy, McFadden & McBrearty are  apart from obviously being elite scoring forwards.

Division 3 is not going to help us much unless we really push hard and get our of it. Mayo are light years ahead of us now and Galway surely cant stay this poor for much longer. Time is running out for Roscommon's underage talent to kick in at senior level. This autumn & winter is vital for Evans in terms of having one last proper run at bringing it through for next season. 

We really have to make getting to D2 of the League a priority for 2014 as we'll never develop long term being stuck at the present level.
At least Evans knows his players now and  unlike last year ( appointed in November) has time to put some kind of an off season schedule together.
I just wonder will our poor finances restrict our development as I hear some scary tales from time to time of how strapped the Co Board is.
It will be very hard to raise money from Ros town businesses now that the Hyde won't get any major games for some time.

Donie Shine has been unlucky with injuries if he gets a full NFL/FBD under his belt he'll be in better shape for next years championship. As for Senan well after long club year he wanted a break away and probably should have taken it.

Time may be running out for some of 2006 minors to kick on at senior level however in Cathal Shine,Niall Daly,Neill Collins,Paddy Brogan,Enda Smith,Donie Smith,Conor Daly,Colm Compton,Scott Oates,Donal Keane,Ciaran Cafferkey we have plenty of underage talent only finding their feet at senior level & with many more waiting for their chance we should have competitive senior panel in the years ahead.

While its our priority getting to D2 we must make sure we have team/squad thats good enough to compete at that level, remember 2008 proved to be level above us.

yrone o a fair wake up call. We could easily have one ou yeserday. We're op 8 a he laer end and no more.

Is this Ulster-Scots week?

Quote from: ross4life on July 07, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Donie Shine has been unlucky with injuries if he gets a full NFL/FBD under his belt he'll be in better shape for next years championship. As for Senan well after long club year he wanted a break away and probably should have taken it.

Time may be running out for some of 2006 minors to kick on at senior level however in Cathal Shine,Niall Daly,Neill Collins,Paddy Brogan,Enda Smith,Donie Smith,Conor Daly,Colm Compton,Scott Oates,Donal Keane,Ciaran Cafferkey we have plenty of underage talent only finding their feet at senior level & with many more waiting for their chance we should have competitive senior panel in the years ahead.

While its our priority getting to D2 we must make sure we have team/squad thats good enough to compete at that level, remember 2008 proved to be level above us.

Have to be fair though - Higgins and O'Gara injected life back into us and DOG should never have been dropped in the first place. Both are part of our best offensive HF line-up with Cregg. Keenan got through a mountain of work yesterday too and looked to be one of the key players in our defensive system. Carty barraged forward and has had overall a very positive season, Alan Freeman excepted. Devaney is a frustrating player because he can do something seriously spectacular like the goal and he gets on the end of a lot of ball but is also prone to kicking bad wides.

I think the main thing we should take from yesterday is that there's real competition for places starting to take place and if we keep the 2006 minors, Senan, the Brigids lads and the younger underage lads involved in meaningful ways over the next few years we should make progress that goes beyond moral victories. We've the players (and the players coming through in the next few years) to make a genuine panel and not just a team that picks itself for the most part. Hopefully their injuries clear up and we can add Senan O'Grady, Wardie and Darren Mc back onto the panel next year because we'll need every available body to make a run at D2.

Were any of ye Tyronies at the game?
What was yer take on the last 15 mins?

I was listening to it on the radio and it sounded like we were cruising and then took the foot of the gas and Roscommon got good momentum.
Sounded like McCurry had a good second half. Who else played well or was poor?
I see Sean & McAliskey scored a 45 each.
Was McAliskey well marked. I'd hoped he'd be getting a few more scores in the last 2 games.

I heard there was a poor turnout.

Quote from: ONeill on July 08, 2013, 12:18:15 AM
yrone o a fair wake up call. We could easily have one ou yeserday. We're op 8 a he laer end and no more.

Well said.

 

Quote from: Jinxy on July 08, 2013, 11:43:03 AM

Quote from: ONeill on July 08, 2013, 12:18:15 AM
yrone o a fair wake up call. We could easily have one ou yeserday. We're op 8 a he laer end and no more.

Well said.

;D

He's missing his g and t

hank you Chimley.

Or has he had a few too many g+t 's?

Quote from: ross4life on July 07, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Donie Shine has been unlucky with injuries if he gets a full NFL/FBD under his belt he'll be in better shape for next years championship. As for Senan well after long club year he wanted a break away and probably should have taken it.

Time may be running out for some of 2006 minors to kick on at senior level however in Cathal Shine,Niall Daly,Neill Collins,Paddy Brogan,Enda Smith,Donie Smith,Conor Daly,Colm Compton,Scott Oates,Donal Keane,Ciaran Cafferkey we have plenty of underage talent only finding their feet at senior level & with many more waiting for their chance we should have competitive senior panel in the years ahead.While its our priority getting to D2 we must make sure we have team/squad thats good enough to compete at that level, remember 2008 proved to be level above us.

The first thing you need to do is keep idiots like Syferus away from these young lads. The worst thing for a young player is to be told how great he is when he has some success at underage and then have fellas constantly making excuses for them when they dont do the business at Senior. Syferus does this all the time. I hope its not indicative of the type of people these players have around them. If so, they will never kick on.

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on July 08, 2013, 01:28:00 PM

Quote from: ross4life on July 07, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Donie Shine has been unlucky with injuries if he gets a full NFL/FBD under his belt he'll be in better shape for next years championship. As for Senan well after long club year he wanted a break away and probably should have taken it.

Time may be running out for some of 2006 minors to kick on at senior level however in Cathal Shine,Niall Daly,Neill Collins,Paddy Brogan,Enda Smith,Donie Smith,Conor Daly,Colm Compton,Scott Oates,Donal Keane,Ciaran Cafferkey we have plenty of underage talent only finding their feet at senior level & with many more waiting for their chance we should have competitive senior panel in the years ahead.While its our priority getting to D2 we must make sure we have team/squad thats good enough to compete at that level, remember 2008 proved to be level above us.

The first thing you need to do is keep idiots like Syferus away from these young lads. The worst thing for a young player is to be told how great he is when he has some success at underage and then have fellas constantly making excuses for them when they dont do the business at Senior. Syferus does this all the time. I hope its not indicative of the type of people these players have around them. If so, they will never kick on.

+1.
I read in some paper a few years ago an explanation why Laois didn't win more from all those good underage teams they had back whenever.
When 19 year olds walk into a pub and see a portrait of themselves with a Minor Cup at the end of the bar and everyone starts buying them drinks......

Our 2006 minors will be aged 25 and 26 next year. One minor team will never give you more than 4 or 5 at best good Seniors.
Many have played on the Senior team and by now Carty, Keenan, O'Gara, Higgins, Devaney and Donie Shine were on the Championship squad Saturday. Domican may be back next year.
Carty's not a full back, Keenan is one of the best run around everywhere players around, the others are very inconsistent and will be overtaken by the younger lads if they don't perform more regularly.

Since 06 we've been ALL Irl minor Qtr Finalists 6 times incl this year but we've only won once ( extra time at that !!).
We've won 2 Connacht U21s and have lost to the eventual AI Champions each of the last 4 years.
There's a lot of potential there but  it will take hard work, bruising of some egos, ruthless culling of lads not shaping up and large doses of reality medicine to bring it to fruition as good  Seniors.
We Ros supporters need to become like "those roughest kind of fcukin animals" and become hard to please with anything less than scoreboard victories not moral ones like last Saturday.

The Kerry attitude was summed up for me back in 2000 when we bet them in a Junior AI Final.
A mate met this Kerryman he works with in Sligo the week after and said to him how great a day last Saturday was.
The Kerryman said it "was for ye but a bad day for us". My mate said sure ye're hardly bothered about an oul Junior Final with all ye've won and will win.
The reply was " Any day Kerry lose an All Ireland Final is a bad day"

The time for excuses and Syferianism is over .
WIN OR  BUST FROM HERE ON

Carty's a talented full-back. Just because clubs play defenders out of position (there is a need for them to put their best players in the middle whether they're midfielders or not just to mask as many deficiencies as possible) doesn't make the point any less true. Only Alan Freeman in a performance of a lifetime got much change from Carty this year. Absolutely ridiculous to be questioning whether he's a full-back or not after this year, probably our most consistent performer on the season.

Collins is the only other genuine option at FB - I've never liked Domican at FB and he's probably too short for it to begin with - and Collins probably should be moving up the field rather than nearer our goal.

We've spent long enough being hard to please to know it's a road to nothing. Evans is on the right track. Give him and the players the time they deserve.

The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on July 08, 2013, 01:28:00 PM
The first thing you need to do is keep idiots like Syferus away from these young lads.

I'm keeping him away from me anyway.
I blocked him so I don't have to read his nonsense any more  ;D ;D 8) 8)

Quote from: macdanger2 on July 08, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

Quote from: Syferus on July 08, 2013, 05:50:58 PM

Quote from: macdanger2 on July 08, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

So your own home pitch didn't do your game plan any favours ::)
This is exactly what I meant when I said you build your own lads then you make excuses for them when they fail.

Quote from: Syferus on July 08, 2013, 05:50:58 PM

Quote from: macdanger2 on July 08, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

that stat actually refers to the 'old' croker pitch
not the new one.

Quote from: neilthemac on July 08, 2013, 07:09:48 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 08, 2013, 05:50:58 PM

Quote from: macdanger2 on July 08, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

that stat actually refers to the 'old' croker pitch
not the new one.

Is the new one smaller, then?

QuoteRk County......... Name.................................. Len x Wid Tot
01 Tipperary..... Semple Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Galway......... Pearse Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Antrim.......... Casement Park.................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Roscommon.. Dr Hyde Park..................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Clare............ Cusack Park....................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Offaly............ O'Connor Park................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Donegal........ McCumhaill Park................ 145 x 90 13,050
08 Sligo............. Markievicz Park.................. 142 x 90 12,780
09 Kilkenny........ Nowlan Park...................... 145 x 88 12,760
09 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Rinn...................... 145 x 88 12,760
11 Dublin........... Croke Park........................ 145 x 88 12,716
12 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Chaoimh............... 144 x 88 12,672
13 Carlow.......... Dr Cullen Park................... 145 x 87 12,615
14 Armagh......... Athletic Grounds................ 143 x 88 12,584
15 Wicklow......... O'Byrne Park.................... 145 x 86 12,470
16 Mionaghan.... St Tiernach's Park............. 142 x 87 12,354
17 Wexford........ Wexford Park.................... 142 x 87 12,311
18 Leitrim.......... Pairc Sean Mac Diarmada.. 142 x 87 12,300
19 Laois............ O'Moore Park..................... 142 x 86 12,212
19 Tyrone.......... Healy Park......................... 142 x 86 12,212
21 Cavan.......... Breffni Park........................ 143 x 86 12,184
22 Longford....... Pearse Park...................... 138 x 88 12,144
23 Fermanagh.. Brewster Park.................... 145 x 83 12,035
24 Kerry............ Fitzgerald Stadium............. 144 x 82 11,808
25 Meath.......... Pairc Tailteann.................... 135 x 87 11,745
26 Derry........... Celtic Park ..........................138 x 84 11,614
27 Dublin.......... Parnell Park....................... 141 x 82 11,562
28 Westmeath.. Cusack Park...................... 140x 82 11,514
29 Louth........... Drogheda Park................... 138 x 83 11,437
30 Waterford..... Walsh Park........................ 142 x 80 11,360
31 Limerick....... Gaelic Grounds................... 137 x 82 11,234
31 Mayo........... McHale Park....................... 137 x 82 11,234
33 Down.......... Pairc Esler.......................... 138 x 81 11,120
34 Kildare......... St Conleths Park................ 135 x 80 10,706

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 09, 2013, 02:35:12 PM

QuoteRk County......... Name.................................. Len x Wid Tot
01 Tipperary..... Semple Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Galway......... Pearse Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Antrim.......... Casement Park.................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Roscommon.. Dr Hyde Park..................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Clare............ Cusack Park....................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Offaly............ O'Connor Park................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Donegal........ McCumhaill Park................ 145 x 90 13,050
08 Sligo............. Markievicz Park.................. 142 x 90 12,780
09 Kilkenny........ Nowlan Park...................... 145 x 88 12,760
09 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Rinn...................... 145 x 88 12,760
11 Dublin........... Croke Park........................ 145 x 88 12,716
12 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Chaoimh............... 144 x 88 12,672
13 Carlow.......... Dr Cullen Park................... 145 x 87 12,615
14 Armagh......... Athletic Grounds................ 143 x 88 12,584
15 Wicklow......... O'Byrne Park.................... 145 x 86 12,470
16 Mionaghan.... St Tiernach's Park............. 142 x 87 12,354
17 Wexford........ Wexford Park.................... 142 x 87 12,311
18 Leitrim.......... Pairc Sean Mac Diarmada.. 142 x 87 12,300
19 Laois............ O'Moore Park..................... 142 x 86 12,212
19 Tyrone.......... Healy Park......................... 142 x 86 12,212
21 Cavan.......... Breffni Park........................ 143 x 86 12,184
22 Longford....... Pearse Park...................... 138 x 88 12,144
23 Fermanagh.. Brewster Park.................... 145 x 83 12,035
24 Kerry............ Fitzgerald Stadium............. 144 x 82 11,808
25 Meath.......... Pairc Tailteann.................... 135 x 87 11,745
26 Derry........... Celtic Park ..........................138 x 84 11,614
27 Dublin.......... Parnell Park....................... 141 x 82 11,562
28 Westmeath.. Cusack Park...................... 140x 82 11,514
29 Louth........... Drogheda Park................... 138 x 83 11,437
30 Waterford..... Walsh Park........................ 142 x 80 11,360
31 Limerick....... Gaelic Grounds................... 137 x 82 11,234
31 Mayo........... McHale Park....................... 137 x 82 11,234
33 Down.......... Pairc Esler.......................... 138 x 81 11,120
34 Kildare......... St Conleths Park................ 135 x 80 10,706

It gets even better 8)

Ros #1. Ros #1.