Fitzgibbon Cup
Round Robin - 13 Teams
Four Seeds:
1.UL, 2. IT Carlow, 3.UCD , 4.GMIT (host)
Eight Unseeded :
5.St Pats/Mater Dei, 6.WIT, 7.DCU, 8.LIT, 9.UCC, 10.Cork IT, 11.DIT 12. NUIG
4 Groups:
-1 Group of 4 teams ( 1 Seed, 2 Unseeded, Mary Immaculate)
-3 Groups of 3 teams (1 Seed, 2 Unseeded)
Top 2 teams in each group qualify for quarter finals.
Group A
1. GMIT 2. UCC 3. NUIG
4. Mary Immaculate
Group B
1. IT Carlow 2. WIT 3. Cork IT
Group C
1. UCD 2. LIT 3. DCU
Group D
1. UL 2. St. Pats/ Mater Dei 3. DIT
First Team Named Has Home Advantage in Group Fixtures
Round 1 - Thursday, 31st January 2013
All Groups
Team 1 v Team 2
Group A
Team 3 v Mary Immaculate
Round 2 - Thursday, 7th February 2013
All Groups
Team 3 v Team 1
Group A
Mary Immaculate v Team 2
Round 3 - Tuesday, 12th February 2013
All Groups
Team 2 v Team 3
Group A
Team 1 v Mary Immaculate
[E.T. if necessary in Knock-Out Stages]
Quarter Finals - 19.02.13/20.02.13
Group Winners Have Home Advantage
A Winner A V Runner Up B
B Winner B V Runner Up C
C Winner C V Runner Up D
D Winner D V Runner Up A
Semi-Finals - Friday 01.03.13 - GMIT
E A v C
F B v D
Final - 02.03.13 - GMIT
Sigerson Cup
Preliminary Round - Jan 29th/ 30th 2013
- UL in Preliminary Round v Unseeded Team as only Division 2 Senior League Club in Sigerson.
- Unseeded Teams: 8.DCU, 9. IT Carlow, 10.GMIT, 11.NUIG, 12. UUJ, 13.IT Tralee, 14. NUI Maynooth, 15. Trinity College
First Team Named has Home Advantage
(A) UL V DCU
Round 1 - Jan 29th/ 30th , Feb 5th/6th 2013:
(B) Athlone IT v IT Carlow
(C) Cork IT v GMIT
(D) UCC v UUJ
(E) IT Tralee v St.Marys Belfast
(F) UL / DCU v QUB
(G) Trinity v UCD
(H) NUIG v DIT
(I) IT Sligo v NUI Maynooth
Quarter-Finals - 13.02.13/14.02.13
First team named has Home Advantage
(J) B v C
(K) D v E
(L) F v G
(M) H v I
Semi Finals -22.02.13 - Athlone IT
J v K
L v M
Final - 23.02.13 - Athlone IT
Jaysus that's a tough draw for UL. Time to try and get out of Div 2! How are DCU unseeded though?
Any word of a venue for UUJ vs UCC yet? If it's midlands I'd travel to take that in, not if it's in Dublin though.
DCU have the talent to wipe the floor with the rest any given year if they so choose but someone else may prove hungerier this year.
DCU form in league,O'Byrne cup wasn't great is David Kelly,Michael Murphy still out injured? UUJ vs UCC will be played in Coolock
Current Sigerson cup odds. DIT,UCD are good value bets.
DCU 10/11
DIT 13/2
UCD 13/2
UCC 7/1
CIT 8/1
UUJ 12/1
St Marys Belfast 14/1
Queens 20/1
IT Carlow 22/1
IT Sligo 25/1
NUIG 28/1
Maynooth 40/1
UL 50/1
Athlone IT 100/1
Trinity College 100/1
GMIT 150/1
IT Tralee 200/1
DIT have a very strong panel, Darren O Sullivan will be coming into that the team aswell, didn't play in the O Byrne Cup and missed the League with Injury. Aidan O Shea is in good form and Jason Doherty.
Sigerson Teams to watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKRB72Xmx-M&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKRB72Xmx-M&feature=youtu.be)
Sigerson Players to watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlqKLK666jw&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlqKLK666jw&feature=youtu.be)
DCU could probably beat the pick of the rest of the teams in the competition. They have been mopping up all the players and making a mockery of the competition
Quote from: Syferus on January 24, 2013, 05:02:55 PM
DCU have the talent to wipe the floor with the rest any given year if they so choose but someone else may prove hungerier this year.
who cares really?
Most over-rated competition in the calendar
Quote from: INDIANA on January 24, 2013, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 24, 2013, 05:02:55 PM
DCU have the talent to wipe the floor with the rest any given year if they so choose but someone else may prove hungerier this year.
who cares really?
Most over-rated competition in the calendar
I think it is tremendous. Dont forget indiana, these boys have been training since september for this; im sure they think it is important.
Quote from: theticklemister on January 24, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on January 24, 2013, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 24, 2013, 05:02:55 PM
DCU have the talent to wipe the floor with the rest any given year if they so choose but someone else may prove hungerier this year.
who cares really?
Most over-rated competition in the calendar
I think it is tremendous. Dont forget indiana, these boys have been training since september for this; im sure they think it is important.
In my view the one competition that has much to answer for as regards burnout as any other.
Even though it claims otherwise
Quote from: INDIANA on January 24, 2013, 09:38:41 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on January 24, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on January 24, 2013, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 24, 2013, 05:02:55 PM
DCU have the talent to wipe the floor with the rest any given year if they so choose but someone else may prove hungerier this year.
who cares really?
Most over-rated competition in the calendar
I think it is tremendous. Dont forget indiana, these boys have been training since september for this; im sure they think it is important.
In my view the one competition that has much to answer for as regards burnout as any other.
Even though it claims otherwise
"IT" claims otherwise? Who's "IT"?
Think he means it as in, Sigerson Football. Not IT as in Sligo IT.
The competition is competed within a month some teams may only have one game. It's a good competition for young players looking to make the step up to senior level and playing alongside or against current senior players can only improve them.
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 24, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
Think he means it as in, Sigerson Football. Not IT as in Sligo IT.
Ah yeah I know that. But when has "Sigerson" ever claimed anything.
Burn out is a very real issue and one I have studied. It is bandied about by ill informed fools who use it to their own advantage, usually with no concern on the player. My view is that players should not compete for several teams Nor should we move Sigerson to December so county lads can play pre season comps. All that does is feed burnout.
Councils should protect players by having rules. Leaving it to managers is a cop out.
Sigerson is a fine competition which is underestimated by many
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 24, 2013, 09:55:51 PM
The competition is competed within a month some teams may only have one game. It's a good competition for young players looking to make the step up to senior level and playing alongside or against current senior players can only improve them.
I disagree. Some players will be doing long-term fitness training at county level and faster more intense work with their university. Both together are chronic causes for burnout
Quote from: ck on January 24, 2013, 10:21:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 24, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
Think he means it as in, Sigerson Football. Not IT as in Sligo IT.
Ah yeah I know that. But when has "Sigerson" ever claimed anything.
Burn out is a very real issue and one I have studied. It is bandied about by ill informed fools who use it to their own advantage, usually with no concern on the player. My view is that players should not compete for several teams Nor should we move Sigerson to December so county lads can play pre season comps. All that does is feed burnout.
Councils should protect players by having rules. Leaving it to managers is a cop out.
Sigerson is a fine competition which is underestimated by many
Yeah Januray - March is a hectic period for those players. Maybe if they got rid of the Ryan Cup and played the Sigerson on a Champions League format before December. Each team would get 3 games, and not just the one chance which they get at present on the knockout system.
Never bought into this. It's a good standard, lads take it very serious but what's it all about? Our college signed up more intercounty players than your college? Not important really in my book but I know it means a lot to some.
I always felt that two many third level insitutions are allowed to play at Sigerson level, Would less teams involved help prevent elite player burnout, perhaps?
Could you imagine how few games there would be if the real universities were only allowed to participate and the DITs, Waterford / Sligo ITs and the Northern polytechnics like Jordanstown were refused entry. The prospect of Sigerson football might encourage good county footballers to actually go to real universities which would be a real shot in the arm to their career prospects surely. I know the GPA are always pushing for career improvement coursess for their members. Why not aim at the crux of the problem and lets try to get the players a proper education.
Quote from: rrhf on January 25, 2013, 04:28:53 PM
I always felt that two many third level insitutions are allowed to play at Sigerson level, Would less teams involved help prevent elite player burnout, perhaps?
Could you imagine how few games there would be if the real universities were only allowed to participate and the DITs, Waterford / Sligo ITs and the Northern polytechnics like Jordanstown were refused entry. The prospect of Sigerson football might encourage good county footballers to actually go to real universities which would be a real shot in the arm to their career prospects surely. I know the GPA are always pushing for career improvement coursess for their members. Why not aim at the crux of the problem and lets try to get the players a proper education.
Take the tongue outa your cheek there bud.
How on earth would less teams prevent burnout? The "real" Universities would play Sigerson and the colleges and ITs would play in Trench cup (as was the case in the 80's). Same amount of games, same amount of burnout.
there are actually now three tiers; with the corn mac leinn. Ever since the sigerson and trench opened their doors to the ITs there had to be a new cup to accomodate all these teams and grades.
Ck is correct, if these teams didnt participate in the sogerson and trenh they would be playing in the further education cups.
Some interesting Sigerson facts http://www.ucc.ie/students/socs/gfc/sigersonfacts.html
George Sigerson was born in Strabane, Co Tyrone in 1836. He was a scholar, academic, Senator, neurologist and writer during a remarkable career. He used his salary to donate the Sigerson Cup in 1911.
The Sigerson Cup is modelled on an ancient drinking vessel – the Mether – which is symbolic of friendship, and the four handles of the represent each of the provinces.
The only successful objection at the weekend came about in 1971.
The objection was lodged by UCC after losing a semi final to UCD, and as a result, the Cork side went on to the final where they lost to Queen's.
Until 1933, the Sigerson Cup was played out as a three team league involving UCD, UCC and UCD.
In 2006, Bryan Cullen lifted the Sigerson Cup as captain of DCU.
In doing so, he was the first native Dubliner to lead a successful team in the history of the competition.
IT Tralee became the first non-university side to win the Sigerson Cup, when they claimed the title in 1997. They went on to complete a three-in-a-row.
A Combined Universities side was first chosen in the 1950s. At first it competed against a Rest of Ireland select, and then entered the Railway Cup (Interprovincial championship) for a number of years. They actually won their only Railway Cup in 1973, defeating Ulster, Leinster and Connaught (in a replay).
The Ryan Cup (league title) was originally presented in 1950 for the representative game involving the Combined Universities and the Rest of Ireland select. It has been used for the senior HE league since 1969.
In 2006/2007, Daniel McCartan became the seventh Down man to captain a successful Ryan Cup (senior league) side. He also emulated his brother James (the present QUB manager) who also led a successful side in 1992.
In 1992, an extra period of extra time was required to separate UUJ and UCG in the Sigerson quarter final. UUJ set something of a record in using 24 players.
In the 2006 campaign, UUJ and reigning champions IT Sligo were inseparable after extra time, and so the very first penalty shoot out of a competitive GAA game was required. Jordanstown won on penalties.
The Trench Cup is named after Trench House in Belfast, which formerly housed St Joseph's (later St Mary's). The concept of the cup was proposed by former CA chairman Pat Blake and former Fermanagh Allstar Peter McGinnitty.
Queen's University have honoured GAA personalities in recent years. In 2003, Kieran McGeeney was named as Graduate of the Year, and honour that was also bestowed posthumously on the late Cormac McAnallen in 2004. Two years later, Tyrone manager Mickey Harte was the first recipient of an honorary degree from the University for services to Gaelic games.
Only two teams have ever completed the senior league and Sigerson double. UUJ won a second Sigerson title in a row in 1987 and remained unbeaten in the league to also collect that title. In more recent times, IT Sligo defeated UCD in a replay of the Ryan Cup decider of 2004/2005 and edged out Queen's in the Sigerson final.
The original four colleges – UCD, UCC, UCG and Queen's – made up the final four pairing in the 2000 Sigerson final. It was the first time that this had happened since 1985, and has not occurred since.
The highest scorer on record for a Sigerson final is Vincent Darby of UCG and Galway, who scored 2-4 in the 1933 decider. Interestingly, this was the first Sigerson final on record, as QUB had joined that year to complete the quartet. Seán Thornton scored 3-0 for UCG in the 1940 final, while Jim Brosnan of UCC equalled that total in 1952.
The last Sigerson final to be hosted in Croke Park took place in 1985. UCD defeated Queen's in the decider by 0-10 to 0-5.
Sligo RTC (now IT Sligo) lead the way in terms of Trench Cup wins, with a total of five. Their last title came in 1991.
Thirty years ago, Kerry's multiple Allstar winner Pat Spillane captained Thomond College to win the Trench Cup. Other notable Trench Cup winning captains include Brian Mullins of Dublin (NCPE 1976), Kevin McCabe of Tyrone (Poly 1980), Gary Walsh of Donegal (Sligo RTC 1984 and 1985), and Damien Diver of Donegal (DIT 1995).
The old Division 3 championship is now called the Corn na Mac Léinn, which translates as the Students' Cup.
Until the late seventies, students of St Josephs (now St Mary's) competed with Queen's in the Sigerson Cup and with their own college in the league.
Queen's hosted the Sigerson weekend in their 75th anniversary year. In their 50th anniversary, they also hosted at the Dub and won the final in extra time.
UCD completed the first five-in-a-row in 1932. UCG are the only side to complete six titles on the trot (1936-1941). In the 1970s, a UCD managed by Eugene McGee won six titles in seven years and also collected two All Ireland club titles.
In 2005, NUI Galway and GMIT both qualified for the FBD league final. After a pulsating tie, both teams were treated to a holiday in the US.
The UCC team have traditionally worn the scull and cross-bones on their jerseys. It owes its origin to the fact that the Medicine school of UCC dominated all facets of contemporary Cork college life.
UCG have worn the maroon and white for longer than their county side, and the fact that Galway don such colours can be attributed to the Corrib-side college.
The old three-day weekend was temporarily abandoned in 1991, as a result of disgraceful scenes at the 1990 Sigerson Cup event on the Saturday night at Trinity College boat house. The 1991 championship was run off without any weekend, though the two-day event was introduced in 1992. The three-day weekend returned in 1999, but finally ended in 2003.
TG4 have been broadcasting Sigerson Cup finals since 1998.
The first floodlit final took place in Parnell Park in 2006.
The original George Sigerson Cup was finally decommissioned in 2001 after 90 years on the go. The new replica was sensationally lost by UUJ shortly after they won it but was later recovered in time for the 2002 competition.
The Combined Universities side travelled to play a British Universities select in the millennium year. The tie took place in Manchester, with Karl Oakes of Queen's scoring the winning goal to complete a 1-9 to 0-9 scoreline.
The C U select was then discontinued and eventually gave way to the Datapac Hotshots in 2004. IT Sligo lead the way in terms of Hotshots awards with 15, followed by Queen's with ten and UUJ with four.
Got some previews for the Sigerson games tomorrow night here if anyone's interested:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/a-look-ahead-to-the-sigerson-cup/
Just heard that a few of the games are off due to waterlogged pitches. IT Sligo game on.
anyone have fixtures for the trench and corn mac leinn?
Quote from: ck on January 28, 2013, 09:18:40 PM
Just heard that a few of the games are off due to waterlogged pitches. IT Sligo game on.
Yeah the DIT game is off I think, CIT is probably going to be off as well.
NUIG v DIT, Cork IT v GMIT are postponed until Tuesday February 5th. Trinity v UCD will have pitch inspection in the morning.
UCC 1-7 UUJ 0-0 according to Twitter UCC playing with a gale.
Poorest UUJ side in years. Mind you with Ronan O'Neill, Jamie Clarke and Aaron Cunningham all available it could have been different!
UCC 1-13 UUJ 0-2 HT
UCC 1-13 UUJ 0-6
UCC 1:14 0:9 UUJ
Anybody have a result??
1-14 to 9 was final score tickle.
Athlone had a good win against Carlow IT. Athlone were outsiders to win that game at 7/4 so it was a good win. Carlow's defeat wasn't helped by losing a player in the first half. Finised 1-13 to 6pts. Athlone play Maynooth in the next round who had a close 1pt win over Sligo. 1-9 to 1-8
Other result DCU beat UL 1-14 to 8pts, St Marys beat Tralee 1- 15 to 9pts. Postponed games are on next tuesday
Edit: GAA Scores on twitter has all the scores from Sigerson, trench etc
GAA Video - see UCC's goal in today's 1-14 to 0-9 defeat of UUJ in the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup. http://tinyurl.com/arnuxpo (http://tinyurl.com/arnuxpo)
Donnelly and Mc Kaigue at midfield!!! ::)
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2013, 04:14:49 PM
Athlone had a good win against Carlow IT. Athlone were outsiders to win that game at 7/4 so it was a good win. Carlow's defeat wasn't helped by losing a player in the first half. Finised 1-13 to 6pts. Athlone play Maynooth in the next round who had a close 1pt win over Sligo. 1-9 to 1-8
Other result DCU beat UL 1-14 to 8pts, St Marys beat Tralee 1- 15 to 9pts. Postponed games are on next tuesday
Edit: GAA Scores on twitter has all the scores from Sigerson, trench etc
Scoreline really flatter AIT in this one. Despite playing with the breeze, they were 0-4 to 0-2 behind and very definitely second best when they got the goal (a fluke - a long ball from a 50m free that the keeper let in off his chest) and immediately were handed an extra man.
They got a spring in their step and tacked on four points before half time when ITC were in disarray, and then could afford to double mark Brosnan and Hurley in the second half.
I'd still make ITC favourites if they played again next week and it makes Cork IT look nailed on for a place in the last four.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 29, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
Donnelly and Mc Kaigue at midfield!!! ::)
What's that for? When QUB play?
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 29, 2013, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 29, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
Donnelly and Mc Kaigue at midfield!!! ::)
What's that for? When QUB play?
They were midfield for UUJ by the looks of it, Donnelly is usually a corner forward. Qub are playing the winners of UCD-Trinity which was called of. Would expect UCD to have too much for Trinity and also Queens.
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2013, 06:22:58 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 29, 2013, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 29, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
Donnelly and Mc Kaigue at midfield!!! ::)
What's that for? When QUB play?
They were midfield for UUJ by the looks of it, Donnelly is usually a corner forward. Qub are playing the winners of UCD-Trinity which was called of. Would expect UCD to have too much for Trinity and also Queens.
Oh is that Mattie Donnelly? Thought him more of a half-forward. McKaigue plays defence am I correct?
Think St Mary's have a stronger than usual team this year, not sure what QUB are like. UCD would have too much for all teams would they not?
Does Queens not play DCU in the next round after DCU defeated Limerick today
See extended hilites from today's Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup game in Dublin, UUC v UUJ: http://tinyurl.com/bbuxzu7 (http://tinyurl.com/bbuxzu7)
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Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 29, 2013, 06:40:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2013, 06:22:58 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 29, 2013, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 29, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
Donnelly and Mc Kaigue at midfield!!! ::)
What's that for? When QUB play?
They were midfield for UUJ by the looks of it, Donnelly is usually a corner forward. Qub are playing the winners of UCD-Trinity which was called of. Would expect UCD to have too much for Trinity and also Queens.
Oh is that Mattie Donnelly? Thought him more of a half-forward. McKaigue plays defence am I correct?
Think St Mary's have a stronger than usual team this year, not sure what QUB are like. UCD would have too much for all teams would they not?
do.
Mattie Donnelly, played in the ff line with Tyrone u21's 2 years ago. THought he played ff or corner forward with UUI. He has been half forward with Tyrone Seniors. Looks better inside. McKaigue is usually a corner back, played in that Ulster team against Donegal.
I was wrong, Queens play DCU now. Not sure if Aidan Walsh has been cleared to play for them.
Wasn't sure myself Rodney thought I read it wrong today when is that Queens game to be held
It was Richard Donnelly and Mc Kaigue at midfield!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 29, 2013, 07:09:00 PM
It was Richard Donnelly and Mc Kaigue at midfield!
Who's he??
No shocks in Sigerson cup today which was disappointing.
Quote from: ck on January 29, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
No shocks in Sigerson cup today which was disappointing.
Mark McHugh was a loss for Sligo against Maynooth
Not a shock result though, Maynooth were in the final last year and semi's the year before.
Ucd hammered Trinity tonight 2-11 to 1-4.
See goals from UCD v Trinity tonight in the Sigerson (Paul Cahillane & Donie Kingston) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKv50keGpeU&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKv50keGpeU&feature=youtu.be)
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 29, 2013, 11:30:51 PM
Not a shock result though, Maynooth were in the final last year and semi's the year before.
Ucd hammered Trinity tonight 2-11 to 1-4.
It has to be DCUs to loose. UCD and UCC firing too. Mark McHugh massive loss to IT Sligo. Maynooth could be dark horses
St. Marys have a strong team this year and had a tremendous ryan cup. I think they r up against uuc next; should be a good match.
St Mary's Falls Road 1-15 IT Tralee 0-09
A FINAL quarter tour de force from Tyrone's Peter Harte helped St Mary's escape a potentially tricky situation with a flattering nine point margin at Ballykelly.
The alarm bells were ringing for the hot favourites as Tralee raced into an early lead, as they ran the ball cleverly and finished sharply.
St Mary's began to move the ball more intelligently themselves, however, and scored six consecutive points to lead by 0-07 to 0-04 at half-time.
But with Tralee having the wind in their favour in the second Half, the prospect of a shock result was still very much alive.
Harte, however, swung over a couple of points before scoring a brilliant 50th minute goal. He beat a couple of defenders on a slaloming run before exchanging passes with Danny Herron and palming to the net.
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzhLFRlMZrfMmbD_IxuvLQtvub0PVBeyunpHg_vH4fZOctPy64)
From that juncture, there was no comeback and Harte converted two frees to push his side 10 points clear.
Alan O'Donoghue slotted a late free for a gallant Tralee outfit.
SCORERS – St Mary's: P Harte 1-6 (3f), D McCusker 0-3, C Clarke, A Forker 0-2 each; N Morgan (1f), R Sexton (1f) 0-1f each; IT Tralee: S Carroll 0-3, I Corbett, A O'Donoghue (2f) 0-2 each, D Wallace, B O'Hehir 0-1 each.
ST MARY'S – N Morgan; S Mullan, N Donnelly, M Murray; D McCusker, C O'Hara, B Doyle; C Clarke, D McBride; A Forker, D Herron, N Sludden; P Harte, M Stevenson, R Sexton. Sub: D McKinless for Stevenson (43).
IT TRALEE – S Dea; M Brosnan, J Scully, D Larkin; G O'Grady, D Cahillane, S McCarthy; D Sommers, S Carroll; D Wallace, A O'Donoghue, B Goff; R Deane, I Corbett, B O'Hehir.
REF – F Barry (Kildare).
Suprised at Carlow IT being beaten so well with them having a GAA course? Any match report?
Did this brief report for livegaelic.com.
Athlone IT moved one step closer to taking part in the Sigerson Cup weekend they themselves will host at the end of the month with a 10 point win over a disappointing IT Carlow side today in Athlone.
While Athlone were most deserving winners and performed much better over the hour, it's also fair to say that the result could have been a lot different were it not for 30 seconds of madness in the IT Carlow goalmouth in the 22nd minute of the 1st half. With Carlow leading 0-4 to 0-2, after Ben Brosnan pointed 4 frees, a speculative high ball into the parallelogram made its way through a forest of defenders and goalkeeper Tom Hughes and finished up in the back of the net.
Then, to make matters far worse for Carlow, corner back Joe Kinahan was shown a straight red for an altercation in the aftermath of the goal. Buoyed by events, Athlone raced into a 1-6 to 0-4 half-time lead with Alan Coffey, Kieran Martin and Cathal Shine all prominent.
The second half was virtually one way traffic with Athlone suffocating their opponents, leaking only 2 points, while adding 7 themselves leaving the score at 1-13 to 0-6 when Michael Duffy sounded the final whistle.
The only sour note for Athlone was the straight red card issued to wing-forward John Mulligan late on, but despite this, they will be confident of building on this for their quarter final clash with the winners of CIT v GMIT who meet in a deferred first round game in Cork next Tuesday.
Athlone scorers - Alan Coffey (0-5), Cathal Shine (1-2, 1f), Ger Egan 0-3 (all fs), John Mulligan 0-1, Frank Burke 0-1, James McGivney 0-1
IT Carlow scorers - Ben Brosnan (0-4f), Eoin Walsh 0-1, Brian Hurley 0-1
Athlone I.T - Gary Connaughton (Westmeath), Eoin Kerins (Galway), Killian Clarke (Cavan), Colm O'Brien (Galway), Tomás Rahill (Meath), Kieran Martin (Westmeath), Levi Murphy (Cavan), Ciarán Duggan (Galway), Cathal Shine (Roscommon), John Mulligan (Leitrim), Ger Egan (Westmeath), Alan Coffey (Westmeath), James McGivney (Longford), James Dolan (Westmeath), Frankie Burke (Galway).
Subs: Diarmuid Maleady (Offaly) for Murphy, Peter Masterson (Longford) for Burke, Alan Stone (Westmeath) for McGivney.
I.T Carlow - Tom Hughes (Wexford), Joe Kinihan (Kildare), Conor Lawlor (Carlow), Alan Nolan (Wexford), Anthony Forde (Meath), Brian Kinihan (Kildare), Eoin Walsh (Galway), Richie Downey (Dublin), Conor Boyle (Laois), Marcus Mangan (Kerry), Cian Reynolds (Leitrim), Darren Hayden (Wicklow), Ben Brosnan (Wexford), Brian Hurley (Cork), Seán Gannon (Carlow).
Subs: Fergal Conway (Kildare) for Reynolds, P. Brogan (Roscommon) for Gannon, Darroch Mulhall (Kildare) for Mangan, Fiach O'Bearra (Galway) for Hurley.
Well done Ciarrai;I am very interesting in finding out about what counties the teams are from. Is that Gary Connaughton the same gary who does nets for wmeath with the red hair?? If so, he is nearly as old as me for going to university!!
Drici my friend, whats the craic with the skier in the report??!!!
Quote from: theticklemister on January 30, 2013, 05:59:18 PM
Well done Ciarrai;I am very interesting in finding out about what counties the teams are from. Is that Gary Connaughton the same gary who does nets for wmeath with the red hair?? If so, he is nearly as old as me for going to university!!
Drici my friend, whats the craic with the skier in the report??!!!
Yeah thats him, he returned to College late as he was out of work.
Hope all goes well for him. I loved when he got interviewed after games when he played for the county. Always straight to the point and no garbage. He has westmeath blood throwing through his viens.
Quote from: theticklemister on January 30, 2013, 05:59:18 PM
Well done Ciarrai;I am very interesting in finding out about what counties the teams are from. Is that Gary Connaughton the same gary who does nets for wmeath with the red hair?? If so, he is nearly as old as me for going to university!!
Drici my friend, whats the craic with the skier in the report??!!!
Couldn't agree more. I love seeing where the players are from but have to say I think the press coverage is dreadful. Whilst the games are not well attended due to the fact that they are midweek and during the day people love to read and see what the make up of teams and managers are from and what is happening. I was hoping to go to a game yesterday and there was a chance it was off, I couldn't find updates anywhere. There is a large passing interest in Sigerson and we depend on media who rarely deliver.
Few goals from the UCC - UUJ game http://www.thescore.ie/sigerson-cup-ucc-peter-crowley-ucd-donie-kingston-775423-Jan2013/
Report on the games http://www.thescore.ie/sigerson-cup-triumphs-for-ucd-dcu-and-st-marys-773563-Jan2013/
and report from the rest of the games http://www.thescore.ie/sigerson-cup-round-up-774453-Jan2013/
Good man Rodney, thank you. There's also more here from the UCC game, including captain Kevin O'Driscoll revealing that UUJ won the toss but were a 'bit crazy' to play into the gale, plus he has a wee dig at UUJ's 'week in the sun' - all good clean fun and some great scores, and a minute's silence at the start to Heffo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avir3N0PgGE&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avir3N0PgGE&feature=youtu.be)
Quote from: Any craic on January 30, 2013, 07:21:09 PM
Good man Rodney, thank you. There's also more here from the UCC game, including captain Kevin O'Driscoll revealing that UUJ won the toss but were a 'bit crazy' to play into the gale, plus he has a wee dig at UUJ's 'week in the sun' - all good clean fun and some great scores, and a minute's silence at the start to Heffo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avir3N0PgGE&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avir3N0PgGE&feature=youtu.be)
ye reckon this was adrian mcguckian's fault?? maybe he told his captain to do so
Quote from: theticklemister on January 30, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
Hope all goes well for him. I loved when he got interviewed after games when he played for the county. Always straight to the point and no garbage. He has westmeath blood throwing through his viens.
Sure does, ferocious competitor. Tubberclair (his club) narrowly lost the Intermediate Leinster final to Maynooth a few years ago and as we made our way past the dressing rooms he was standing there locked out and the whistle just gone. It wasn't looking too good for the door.
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 30, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
Few goals from the UCC - UUJ game http://www.thescore.ie/sigerson-cup-ucc-peter-crowley-ucd-donie-kingston-775423-Jan2013/
Report on the games http://www.thescore.ie/sigerson-cup-triumphs-for-ucd-dcu-and-st-marys-773563-Jan2013/
and report from the rest of the games http://www.thescore.ie/sigerson-cup-round-up-774453-Jan2013/
From the Athlone IT game report: "The winners lead by 1-6 to 0-4 at the break with Roscommon senior
Cathal Shine striking home the only goal of the game."....Not sure that's how I would have described that particular goal!...Shine did get credited with t though to be fair.
Just on the general point about Sigerson and Fitzgibbon...given the standard of fitness and the players on view you would think the media coverage would be a lot better. AS someone mentioned, half the games don't seem to warrant any attention, when any GAA person who was savvy would realise that the players in these competitions are in pole position to make the step up to county panels and that they may be looking at stars of the next 5-10 years.
I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that some of the mainstream media reports on the games during the week were just hawked up from various sources and that there was no reporter assigned to the games as such in a lot of cases..I could be wrong, but don't think I am.
UCD beat LIT at Belfield this afternoon by 8 or points. Davy Fitz on one sideline, Nicky English on the other, plus Noel McGrath and a host of other county men. Video will follow on the Higher Education youtube channel
See interviews with Josh Hayes (UCD and Cavan) and Conor Laverty (Trinity and Down) plus action from their Sigerson game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEmOlxkhl1A&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEmOlxkhl1A&feature=youtu.be)
Here's the UCD goals vs LIT in this afternoon's Irish Daily Mail #Fitzgibbon Cup tie at Belfield, plus an interested county manager looking on...
youtube.com/watch?v=rlQFygeFkhA&feature=youtu.be (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rlQFygeFkhA&feature=youtu.be)
See Hurling legends Nicky English and Davy Fitz react to the UCD v LIT Irish Daily Mail Fitzgibbon Cup clash http://tinyurl.com/agojqcw (http://tinyurl.com/agojqcw)
Ciaran Sheehan scored the only goal this afternoon as CIT beat GMIT in the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup
DIT beat NUI by 2 Pts today, 9-7 in Sigerson first round. Redscheculed from last week
match report http://thescore.thejournal.ie/sigerson-cup-782744-Feb2013/
Report from Cit's win over GMIT http://thescore.thejournal.ie/sigerson-cup-cit-783777-Feb2013/
DCU beat Queens 16-7 today Michael Murphy hit nine points.
See three of Murphy's 9 points at DCU this afternoon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRECX5SAAsQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRECX5SAAsQ)
Would it be an idea if all the colleges in Ireland joined together and played DCU in Sigerson final?
It would be interesting see what sort of fantasy panel you could put together from that.
Quote from: ck on February 06, 2013, 09:58:29 PM
Would it be an idea if all the colleges in Ireland joined together and played DCU in Sigerson final?
Bit of a eggeration. They are obviously strong, but I think UCD are equally as good this year. Very strong panel, DIT are also very good, maybe not as stong in defence as UCD.
Quote from: emmetryan on February 06, 2013, 10:43:24 PM
It would be interesting see what sort of fantasy panel you could put together from that.
Pulling together a fantasy Sigerson panel would be the same as what DCU do every year "recruiting" players from other colleges. lol
The reality is that the Sigerson cup is being degraded as a result of DCUs strategy of buying Sigerson titles
Quote from: ck on February 06, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: emmetryan on February 06, 2013, 10:43:24 PM
It would be interesting see what sort of fantasy panel you could put together from that.
Pulling together a fantasy Sigerson panel would be the same as what DCU do every year "recruiting" players from other colleges. lol
The reality is that the Sigerson cup is being degraded as a result of DCUs strategy of buying Sigerson titles
IT Tralee did it, Sligo IT have and now DCU. The whole thing is a bit of a joke at this stage.
Quote from: ck on February 06, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: emmetryan on February 06, 2013, 10:43:24 PM
It would be interesting see what sort of fantasy panel you could put together from that.
Pulling together a fantasy Sigerson panel would be the same as what DCU do every year "recruiting" players from other colleges. lol
The reality is that the Sigerson cup is being degraded as a result of DCUs strategy of buying Sigerson titles
DCU is a self-fulfilling prophecy at this stage, huge numbers of inter-county players from the mid-lands go there for four full years. While it's true they target a few stars its their ability to attract all the other talent that makes them such a powerhouse.
There's actually a little more to it than that. One of the key components of DCU's relative success is the access they are able to have to their players because of the value and binding nature of their scholarship contracts. Other universities have minimal access to their players at key times of the year
And I see that Nialll Moyna is not very happy at 2 of his stars being ruled ineligible ..
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/i-will-never-promote-gaelic-games-again-insists-angry-moyna-29053658.html
"On Tuesday evening, DCU received word that Cork's Aidan Walsh and Donegal's Michael Boyle were ineligible to play in third-level competition."
Quote from: Syferus on February 07, 2013, 01:01:28 AM
Quote from: ck on February 06, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: emmetryan on February 06, 2013, 10:43:24 PM
It would be interesting see what sort of fantasy panel you could put together from that.
Pulling together a fantasy Sigerson panel would be the same as what DCU do every year "recruiting" players from other colleges. lol
The reality is that the Sigerson cup is being degraded as a result of DCUs strategy of buying Sigerson titles
DCU is a self-fulfilling prophecy at this stage, huge numbers of inter-county players from the mid-lands go there for four full years. While it's true they target a few stars its their ability to attract all the other talent that makes them such a powerhouse.
Scholarships, free accommodation, bursaries, free registration fees, money.. Not a self fulfilling prophecy but a University that chooses to purchase Sigerson tiles as some sort of marketing ploy!
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
Seems like a bit of an over reaction from Moyna, I think there needs to be some sort of restrictions on players who are elidgeable to play
Moyna is a sensationalist. He's used to getting his own way. He manages an all star team yet still bitches when a legitimate ruling goes aganst him. He's not a GAA man, he's an ego maniac.
The vast majority of Rossies there (note: they could nearly field a team of their own at DCU) aren't getting a free ride, they chose DCU of their own accord. For an athlete there's probably no better place to go to get access to advanced instruction and facilities as well as a good education.
A few players are poached but to think there aren't plenty of reasons DCU is attractive to others is ridiculous. If you think everyone is on scholarships the only one you're fooling is yourself; other colleges need to step up their promotion and their facilities to compete, whining about the best getting better is a waste of everyone's time.
It's always fun to watch impotent rage, though.
I take what you are saying but I didn't see any Rossies on their Sigerson team.
Your suggestion that DCU envy is based on jealousy (or impotent rage as you call it) is not accurate. For one college to mop up all the top stars is not good for the game or the competition.
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
I take what you are saying but I didn't see any Rossies on their Sigerson team.
Your suggestion that DCU envy is based on jealousy (or impotent rage as you call it) is not accurate. For one college to mop up all the top stars is not good for the game or the competition.
1 Roscommon man came off the bench. Quite a few have been there over past few years. The individual who bankrolls the whole project is a Roscommon man.
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
I take what you are saying but I didn't see any Rossies on their Sigerson team.
Your suggestion that DCU envy is based on jealousy (or impotent rage as you call it) is not accurate. For one college to mop up all the top stars is not good for the game or the competition.
Syf is a big DCU/Moyna fan :-* - he's been apoplectic on Stolensheep because a few of the older heads there were slagging off Moyna whom Syf hero worships.
He was positively orgasmic ( if he isn't too young yet ) when Moyna was said to be in the frame for the Ros manager role.
The sooner this Sigerson sh1te is moved back to November the better so we can have a proper NFL season with games every second week and lads playing for their clubs the in between week.
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O’Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowadays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
Quote from: Rossfan on February 07, 2013, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
I take what you are saying but I didn't see any Rossies on their Sigerson team.
Your suggestion that DCU envy is based on jealousy (or impotent rage as you call it) is not accurate. For one college to mop up all the top stars is not good for the game or the competition.
Syf is a big DCU/Moyna fan :-* - he's been apoplectic on Stolensheep because a few of the older heads there were slagging off Moyna whom Syf hero worships.
He was positively orgasmic ( if he isn't too young yet ) when Moyna was said to be in the frame for the Ros manager role.
The sooner this Sigerson sh1te is moved back to November the better so we can have a proper NFL season with games every second week and lads playing for their clubs the in between week.
Someone was intimating the DCU Rossies only really cared about playing for them and didn't give the same effort for Roscommon in the championship. All despite only a handful even featuring for the seniors and DCU last year - Cregg was injured for almost the entire Sigerson, while Smith only came on as a last second sub against Tyrone - and far more DCU Rossies playing for the u21s who reached the
All-Ireland final.
Glad to know that's a perfectly fine thing thing to say in your mind, though.
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Moyna got caught with Walsh and Boyle and the rules that were put in place to limit playing time was absolutely correct. Though I do recall many of the same people laughing at Moyna now being indignant at the exact same rules when they came into effect a few months ago..
Poaching players at college level is a dirty fact of life, unlike at club or county level the rewards for changing schools usually are far more directly life-altering and extend far beyond football.
If anyone here was student mad about football and playing well for GMIT, TIT, CIT - or almost any IT or college besides maybe UCD, DIT and Trinity (for academic rather than sporting reasons) - and DCU turned around and offered you a place at the best sports college in the country would you not go?
There probably should be a move towards even more NCAA-esque playing exemptions for players switching colleges but even that isn't going to stop DCU attracting more than its fair share of players through their own choices on CAO forms.
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O'Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowaydays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
Michael Quinn made a excellent start in Afl with Essedon but then lost his place. Brain Donnelly was on the books of Adelaide Crows for 2 years , not sure if he ever played in the first team
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O'Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowadays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
It'd be interesting to know how Daly played 4 after the game at the weekend, I'd still prefer to see him lining up at half-back and letting Paddy Brogan cover the corner.
DCU V UCD
DIT V Maynooth
CIT V AIT
St.Marys V UCC
Quarter final line up confirmed, anyone care to take a stab at the teams that will make the weekend? will DCU win it easy again this year? who are the dark horses?
Personally think that UCD/DCU game is a 50/50 game, looking at UCD's team sheet they seem to have a stronger team on paper than DCU more established county players anyway. Would to see DCU beat, just because of that bollix Niall Moyna. He has the best resources available to him and he is never finished giving out about something, doesn't seem to be in it for the love of the GAA at all. Would love to see St.Marys do it!
Moyna making an arse of himself again today I see....poor DCU, really getting a raw deal they are, what with Bank of Ireland, Accenture and a few others pouring $$$ into them, the players driving around in sponsored vehicles and living in paid for accomodation..can't be easy.
Fact is, they tapped up Walsh, didn't check (or check properly) that he was eligible, got caught out and tried to blag their way out of it unsuccessfully. Simple as. I don't know the ins/outs of Boyle's case, but that is definitely the story with Walsh.
I actually disagree with the 3 course rule to an extent..if a lad is doing a course, drops out to change tack to something he realises he is better/more suited to, gets his degree, then decides to pursue a masters..he shouldn't be ineligible really once the case is genuine. This doesn't change the fact though, DCU knew the rules in place and thought they would get away with it, but didn't.
Anyway, looking ahead, I expect semis to be DCU v DIT and CIT v UCC. You'd have to fancy a DCU v UCC final, but who knows. Both DIT and CIT won't be lacking motivation against their home town rivals.
Fitzgibbon Cup Video - see Dub David Tracey's goal as DIT upset favourites UL today at Parnells: http://t.co/GaWTnfbg (http://t.co/GaWTnfbg)
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O'Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowadays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
Jes lads, thats far from a star studded team. I know i piped up about this last year when i argued the same thing, and they even had extras like colm begley playing. Murphy and flynn are top class county players, maybe james mccarthy and i guess dean rock is nearly making the dublin team. Hardly a lot for one of the big colleges to have when the consider the amount of county lads at college. Brian donnelly is known for been ex AFL, not a top GAA player, while at least quinn from longford seems to be making an impact with club and county since his return.
Granted I know the northern fringe players better than these lads from ros, dub and even cavan, but they dont compare to the likes of the UUJ and Queens teams of around 99-2003 who would have had near 15 proper established players in the lead up to armagh and tyrone winning all ireland. Think about john toal, paddy bradley, jimmy mcguinness, mccrossan, sean cavanagh, philip loughran, aidan o rourke, enda mcnulty on the one team. Im biased as i was at college at the same time, though i didn't go to either of the belfast big 2.
Different class lads
Quote from: Orchardman on February 07, 2013, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O'Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowadays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
Jes lads, thats far from a star studded team. I know i piped up about this last year when i argued the same thing, and they even had extras like colm begley playing. Murphy and flynn are top class county players, maybe james mccarthy and i guess dean rock is nearly making the dublin team. Hardly a lot for one of the big colleges to have when the consider the amount of county lads at college. Brian donnelly is known for been ex AFL, not a top GAA player, while at least quinn from longford seems to be making an impact with club and county since his return.
Granted I know the northern fringe players better than these lads from ros, dub and even cavan, but they dont compare to the likes of the UUJ and Queens teams of around 99-2003 who would have had near 15 proper established players in the lead up to armagh and tyrone winning all ireland. Think about john toal, paddy bradley, jimmy mcguinness, mccrossan, sean cavanagh, philip loughran, aidan o rourke, enda mcnulty on the one team. Im biased as i was at college at the same time, though i didn't go to either of the belfast big 2.
Different class lads
That is true, but its spread out, big name in the UCD team, Donie Kingston, John Heslin, Kevin McGlaughlin, Rory O Carroll. DIT have Darren O Sullivan, Tomas O Connor, Aidan O Shea
Not all the big names go to DCU, but they are more attractive for what they offer the players.
Quote from: Orchardman on February 07, 2013, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O'Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowadays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
Jes lads, thats far from a star studded team. I know i piped up about this last year when i argued the same thing, and they even had extras like colm begley playing. Murphy and flynn are top class county players, maybe james mccarthy and i guess dean rock is nearly making the dublin team. Hardly a lot for one of the big colleges to have when the consider the amount of county lads at college. Brian donnelly is known for been ex AFL, not a top GAA player, while at least quinn from longford seems to be making an impact with club and county since his return.
Granted I know the northern fringe players better than these lads from ros, dub and even cavan, but they dont compare to the likes of the UUJ and Queens teams of around 99-2003 who would have had near 15 proper established players in the lead up to armagh and tyrone winning all ireland. Think about john toal, paddy bradley, jimmy mcguinness, mccrossan, sean cavanagh, philip loughran, aidan o rourke, enda mcnulty on the one team. Im biased as i was at college at the same time, though i didn't go to either of the belfast big 2.
Different class lads
The panel is every bit as good as those ones in terms of talent, just because you're not as aquainted (and admitting that and still going on to say the rest swipes the rug from under yourself, honestly) with the likes of Jack Brady, Donie Smith or Dean Rock doesn't mean they are among the best players of their age bracket anywhere in the country. It's always easy to look back and compare players' entire careers and say they were a better team then than a group of players who you have no clue how they will look like at the end of their own county and club careers.
It's the depth of the talent at DCU is what is amazing, not just the first 15. Last year the junior team had players like Ronan Stack, a corner-back that starred for Roscommon in our u21 run, and even more so in St. Brigid's runs the last few years.
http://www.dcugaa.ie/node/107 (http://www.dcugaa.ie/node/107) - there's lists of all their teams there, some updated and some not but it gives you an idea of why DCU are a powerhouse at Sigerson level right now, they could name two or three teams that could beat the majority of other colleges.
Quote from: Orchardman on February 07, 2013, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O'Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowadays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
Jes lads, thats far from a star studded team. I know i piped up about this last year when i argued the same thing, and they even had extras like colm begley playing. Murphy and flynn are top class county players, maybe james mccarthy and i guess dean rock is nearly making the dublin team. Hardly a lot for one of the big colleges to have when the consider the amount of county lads at college. Brian donnelly is known for been ex AFL, not a top GAA player, while at least quinn from longford seems to be making an impact with club and county since his return.
Granted I know the northern fringe players better than these lads from ros, dub and even cavan,
I don't know what you mean by "even Cavan"... because Cavan aren't setting the world alight at Senior, doesn't mean we aren't producing good players under - age. Cavan have won back to back Ulster u21 titles and a Minor Championhip in 2011. Jack Brady played in both those u21 teams and is his final year at u21
Simple points i made, far from a star studded team. Some lads creaming themselves about the talent on show at this DCU place.
Of course they have huge strength in depth, their a big College in Dublin, I would UCD have loads as well, but for some reason they havn't done the job for years. Fair play to sligo in their pomp, they were a small enough college who mainly had Donegal, sligo and mayo players. I don't know if they did a pile wrong as some people on here often claim.
Anyway, what is the truth about these free cars etc, is it bullshit or not. Paul flynn claims the only thing he ever got was gym membershp from DCU. He was fairly straight up about it in recent interviews, while moyna claims he turns lads away ( like murphy) and tells them to repeat leaving cert and get proper grades. So maybe they are liars? or everyone else is just talking shite?
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 08, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on February 07, 2013, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 07, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Ps. Looking through the DCU team there is not many county players from the midlands! Plenty of All-stars though, and plenty of lads who have returned from Ozzie rules contracts.. They all seem to end up in DCU. Mmm
DCU team and used subs yesterday.
James Farrelly (Cavan); William Lowry (Dublin), Jonathan Cooper (Dublin), Conor Daly (Roscommon); James McCarthy (Dublin), Jack Brady (Cavan), Michael Quinn (Longford); Fiontan O Curraoin (Galway), Pete O'Hanlon (Monaghan); Paul Flynn (Dublin), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Antoin McFadden (Donegal); Dean Rock (Dublin), Brian Donnelly (Louth), Philip Ryan (Dublin).
Donie Smith (Roscommon) for Donnelly (14), Davy Byrne (Dublin) for McCarthy (38), Christopher McGuinness (Monaghan) for Ryan (42), Jack McCarron (Monaghan) for Rock (51), Eamon Doherty (Donegal) for Flynn (56).
All-stars Murphy,Flynn? both were at DCU before they won those all-stars. Nice spread of counties i think Michael Quinn was on ozzie rules contracts who else?
For ourselves two players played a part yesterday Compton,Fintan Cregg are part of the extended panel they were used in O'Byrne cup and league games & Ciaran Cafferky would be part of the panel if he wasn't injured. When your own Sligo IT were winning the Sigerson cup top players like Andy Moran,Keith Higgins,Michael Moyles,Sean McDermott,Alan Costello,Paul Durcan,Eamonn McGee etc chose Sligo nowadays most choose DCU,DIT or UCD.
Jes lads, thats far from a star studded team. I know i piped up about this last year when i argued the same thing, and they even had extras like colm begley playing. Murphy and flynn are top class county players, maybe james mccarthy and i guess dean rock is nearly making the dublin team. Hardly a lot for one of the big colleges to have when the consider the amount of county lads at college. Brian donnelly is known for been ex AFL, not a top GAA player, while at least quinn from longford seems to be making an impact with club and county since his return.
Granted I know the northern fringe players better than these lads from ros, dub and even cavan,
I don't know what you mean by "even Cavan"... because Cavan aren't setting the world alight at Senior, doesn't mean we aren't producing good players under - age. Cavan have won back to back Ulster u21 titles and a Minor Championhip in 2011. Jack Brady played in both those u21 teams and is his final year at u21
When i said 'even cavan' i meant because they are in ulster also and i wudnt be aware of how good this brady fella is are other lads. I dont know that monaghan guy either. I'm well aware that cavan are doing alot more under age than armagh are
Orchardman i wasn't agreeing with CK more picking holes in his exaggerating post. Of course UUJ and Queens had stronger line ups even DCU themselves had stronger team other years but some still think all the best players are playing for them. As Rodney pointed out DIT,UCD have plenty of good players and looks like most of students today are choosing Dublin colleges probably because most of the jobs are also there.
Quote from: Orchardman on February 08, 2013, 12:15:08 AM
Simple points i made, far from a star studded team. Some lads creaming themselves about the talent on show at this DCU place.
Of course they have huge strength in depth, their a big College in Dublin, I would UCD have loads as well, but for some reason they havn't done the job for years. Fair play to sligo in their pomp, they were a small enough college who mainly had Donegal, sligo and mayo players. I don't know if they did a pile wrong as some people on here often claim.
Anyway, what is the truth about these free cars etc, is it bullshit or not. Paul flynn claims the only thing he ever got was gym membershp from DCU. He was fairly straight up about it in recent interviews, while moyna claims he turns lads away ( like murphy) and tells them to repeat leaving cert and get proper grades. So maybe they are liars? or everyone else is just talking shite?
I think I heard Flynn has free use of a car from some garage. I know Cullen used to drive round in a Citroen provided by a garage in North County Dublin, and that coincided with his time in DCU. But I'm pretty sure its nothing to do with DCU, its because of being a high profile Dublin player. And I'm sure its not only the odd Dub who gets a car dealer to sponsor them in this way.
QuotePaul flynn claims the only thing he ever got was gym membershp from DCU.
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Is this a Gym that is not as DCU? I thought as a student were automatically a member of the DCU gym?
Quote from: Hound on February 08, 2013, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on February 08, 2013, 12:15:08 AM
Simple points i made, far from a star studded team. Some lads creaming themselves about the talent on show at this DCU place.
Of course they have huge strength in depth, their a big College in Dublin, I would UCD have loads as well, but for some reason they havn't done the job for years. Fair play to sligo in their pomp, they were a small enough college who mainly had Donegal, sligo and mayo players. I don't know if they did a pile wrong as some people on here often claim.
Anyway, what is the truth about these free cars etc, is it bullshit or not. Paul flynn claims the only thing he ever got was gym membershp from DCU. He was fairly straight up about it in recent interviews, while moyna claims he turns lads away ( like murphy) and tells them to repeat leaving cert and get proper grades. So maybe they are liars? or everyone else is just talking shite?
I think I heard Flynn has free use of a car from some garage. I know Cullen used to drive round in a Citroen provided by a garage in North County Dublin, and that coincided with his time in DCU. But I'm pretty sure its nothing to do with DCU, its because of being a high profile Dublin player. And I'm sure its not only the odd Dub who gets a car dealer to sponsor them in this way.
Its not just the Dublin players, Seanie Johnston was driving a citreon after DCU won their first Sigerson in 07. Mortimer and a host of other non Dublin players were driving Citreon's aswell
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 08, 2013, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 08, 2013, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on February 08, 2013, 12:15:08 AM
Simple points i made, far from a star studded team. Some lads creaming themselves about the talent on show at this DCU place.
Of course they have huge strength in depth, their a big College in Dublin, I would UCD have loads as well, but for some reason they havn't done the job for years. Fair play to sligo in their pomp, they were a small enough college who mainly had Donegal, sligo and mayo players. I don't know if they did a pile wrong as some people on here often claim.
Anyway, what is the truth about these free cars etc, is it bullshit or not. Paul flynn claims the only thing he ever got was gym membershp from DCU. He was fairly straight up about it in recent interviews, while moyna claims he turns lads away ( like murphy) and tells them to repeat leaving cert and get proper grades. So maybe they are liars? or everyone else is just talking shite?
I think I heard Flynn has free use of a car from some garage. I know Cullen used to drive round in a Citroen provided by a garage in North County Dublin, and that coincided with his time in DCU. But I'm pretty sure its nothing to do with DCU, its because of being a high profile Dublin player. And I'm sure its not only the odd Dub who gets a car dealer to sponsor them in this way.
Its not just the Dublin players, Seanie Johnston was driving a citreon after DCU won their first Sigerson in 07. Mortimer and a host of other non Dublin players were driving Citreon's aswell
Jaysus careful there Rodders that sort of stuff could end up in next week Celt. :o
Quote from: ross4life on February 08, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
Orchardman i wasn't agreeing with CK more picking holes in his exaggerating post. Of course UUJ and Queens had stronger line ups even DCU themselves had stronger team other years but some still think all the best players are playing for them. As Rodney pointed out DIT,UCD have plenty of good players and looks like most of students today are choosing Dublin colleges probably because most of the jobs are also there.
sorry ross4life, i wasnt getting a dig at you, i just used ur post as it included the team line up.
I know that DCU also had a star studded team around the 2006 win i think. Seanie johnston, mort, cluxton, cullen, think clerkin and lennon were also there and they were well established in a good monaghan team at the time. Wsn't there a scandal around that time when they were caught with 3 or 4 lads pretending to do part time masters? Think it was dessie dolan, some guy from wexford and the wee munnelly fella from laois.
Just to clarify about all this, im not stating that any of these 'star studded' team are any better, just that they had much more proper established names. Of course, if ur only 19 or 20 thats unlikely to be the case, and im sure many of these DCU lads will go on to become good players
Today results UCC 0-13 St Mary's 1-6 DIT 2-15 NUI Maynooth 0-12. Other games on tomorrow.
Worth doing a Cork IT and DCU double?
dont know much about cork IT tbh
See here first-half hilites from UCC's win over St Mary's yesterday in Ballykelly. Video will follow on the same HEGAA youtube channel from DCU v UCD and AIT v CIT on Thursday 14th - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-h69EP1kMA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-h69EP1kMA)
Big blow for AIT's hopes of making their own shindig with Cathal Shine out with a broken bone in his hand. The Carlow IT game could go either way now.
Quote from: Syferus on February 14, 2013, 03:04:05 AM
Big blow for AIT's hopes of making their own shindig with Cathal Shine out with a broken bone in his hand. The Carlow IT game could go either way now.
Cork IT. Athlone beat Carlow the last day.
See Michael Murphy's fabulous point for DCU v UCD today in the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup, on Higher Education's youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV (http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV)
Quote from: Any craic on February 14, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
See Michael Murphy's fabulous point for DCU v UCD today in the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup, on Higher Education's youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV (http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV)
Nice finish although he didn't chip it over his marker first like people were saying on Twitter. Looked like he went to dummy solo the ball thinking he might get blocked and slightly overcooked it.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2013, 05:41:49 PM
Quote from: Any craic on February 14, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
See Michael Murphy's fabulous point for DCU v UCD today in the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup, on Higher Education's youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV (http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV)
Nice finish although he didn't chip it over his marker first like people were saying on Twitter. Looked like he went to dummy solo the ball thinking he might get blocked and slightly overcooked it.
isn't his marker Dublin's Rory O'Carroll?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 14, 2013, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2013, 05:41:49 PM
Quote from: Any craic on February 14, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
See Michael Murphy's fabulous point for DCU v UCD today in the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup, on Higher Education's youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV (http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV)
Nice finish although he didn't chip it over his marker first like people were saying on Twitter. Looked like he went to dummy solo the ball thinking he might get blocked and slightly overcooked it.
isn't his marker Dublin's Rory O'Carroll?
Yeah its Rory O 'Carroll, expected a lot more from UCD. Dcu were without the Ballymun lads, James McCarthy, Dean Rock and Davy Byrne and still won well.
Michael Murphy is in awseome form so far this year with College and County.
Live updates from tonight's match here if anyone's interested:
http://www.livegaelic.com/scores/
7-1 at half time a strong wind or something?
Athlone IT neat Cork IT Tonight.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2013, 05:41:49 PM
Quote from: Any craic on February 14, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
See Michael Murphy's fabulous point for DCU v UCD today in the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup, on Higher Education's youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV (http://www.youtube.com/user/HEGAATV)
Nice finish although he didn't chip it over his marker first like people were saying on Twitter. Looked like he went to dummy solo the ball thinking he might get blocked and slightly overcooked it.
Yeah, still an unreal score. Absolute monster of a player, very reminiscent of Colin Corkery with his effortless style.
Good to see the hosts make the finals weekend, it looks to be DCU's competition to lose.
that's a very good comparison yellowcard, appears to be slow in style but definitely isnt, though Murph is in tip-top trim condition which is where the comparison falls a little!
Quote from: Any craic on February 14, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
that's a very good comparison yellowcard, appears to be slow in style but definitely isnt, though Murph is in tip-top trim condition which is where the comparison falls a little!
Yeah I would agree that he is a lot more mobile, its more the lazy natural style that he displays. Anyway he seems to have grown in stature since the AI win, all round brilliant player.
Video - see hosts Athlone IT beat CIT last night to reach the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup weekend http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh (http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh) including interview clips with a former All Star and the brother of another former All Star. I'll let youse work that out!
Quote from: Any craic on February 15, 2013, 08:55:30 AM
Video - see hosts Athlone IT beat CIT last night to reach the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup weekend http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh (http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh) including interview clips with a former All Star and the brother of another former All Star. I'll let youse work that out!
Former All Star is Gary Connaughton
Brother of all Star is Athlone manager Martin McCabe, brother of Dermot ?
Quote from: spuds on February 15, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
Quote from: Any craic on February 15, 2013, 08:55:30 AM
Video - see hosts Athlone IT beat CIT last night to reach the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup weekend http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh (http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh) including interview clips with a former All Star and the brother of another former All Star. I'll let youse work that out!
Former All Star is Gary Connaughton
Brother of all Star is Athlone manager Martin McCabe, brother of Dermot ?
Yeah he is a brother of Dermot
Video - see UCD beat UL today in the Irish Daily Mail Fitzgibbon Cup. We join it in the last few minutes.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCBweZ7w2V8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCBweZ7w2V8)
The Sigerson is tomorrow in Athlone. This should put you in the mood, Michael Murphy's scores from the previous two games, including a class moment 50 seconds in where the UCD bench tell him to hurry up. He just looks over with disdain and then nails the kick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97EaG5ZDIfE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97EaG5ZDIfE)
Brother v brother in the final if UCC and DCU make it, Niall Daly's with UCC and Conor is DCU.
With the family from Pearses, only a few miles outside Athlone, there could be a lot of torn loyalties in the stand if the semis hold to form.
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Quote from: Any craic on February 21, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
The Sigerson is tomorrow in Athlone. This should put you in the mood, Michael Murphy's scores from the previous two games, including a class moment 50 seconds in where the UCD bench tell him to hurry up. He just looks over with disdain and then nails the kick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97EaG5ZDIfE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97EaG5ZDIfE)
DCU are being made out to be a one man team but they have a team of super stars. I was at the DCU UCD game and when it was over you should have seen the amount of kids running on seeking autographs. No other college team has this appeal or attraction. The Harlem globe trotters of Sigerson with an ego maniac as manager.
Quote from: ck on February 22, 2013, 12:42:03 AM
Quote from: Any craic on February 21, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
The Sigerson is tomorrow in Athlone. This should put you in the mood, Michael Murphy's scores from the previous two games, including a class moment 50 seconds in where the UCD bench tell him to hurry up. He just looks over with disdain and then nails the kick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97EaG5ZDIfE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97EaG5ZDIfE)
DCU are being made out to be a one man team but they have a team of super stars. I was at the DCU UCD game and when it was over you should have seen the amount of kids running on seeking autographs. No other college team has this appeal or attraction. The Harlem globe trotters of Sigerson with an ego maniac as manager.
You've made your point, now just let it go and allow the rest of us enjoy it for what it is.
DIT will be without Sean George today, big loss, had a great game for Ballymun last week. Still think they will give DCU a good game. 12.45k/o
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=186168
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 22, 2013, 12:01:33 PM
DIT will be without Sean George today, big loss, had a great game for Ballymun last week. Still think they will give DCU a good game. 12.45k/o
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=186168
They've been more or less planning without him most of the time as far as I know, he would have been a nice addition but not exactly a loss as such.
I still fancy DIT to have a right cut off DCU. DCU are justifiably favourites but should be warm rather than red hot. Fancy DIT to get one over them tbh. Don't think Athlone will have enough to do the same to UCC, especially if Shine is missing.
Previews of the two matches here by the way, and we'll be doing live updates later as well:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sigerson-cup-the-weekend-preview/
(1st half, 17min) @DCUGAACLUB 0-2 (2) @DITGAA 0-6 (6) #SigersonCup #AllianzGaa - Sheridan (Cavan) pt.
Quote from: Keane on February 22, 2013, 12:27:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 22, 2013, 12:01:33 PM
DIT will be without Sean George today, big loss, had a great game for Ballymun last week. Still think they will give DCU a good game. 12.45k/o
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=186168
They've been more or less planning without him most of the time as far as I know, he would have been a nice addition but not exactly a loss as such.
I still fancy DIT to have a right cut off DCU. DCU are justifiably favourites but should be warm rather than red hot. Fancy DIT to get one over them tbh. Don't think Athlone will have enough to do the same to UCC, especially if Shine is missing.
Previews of the two matches here by the way, and we'll be doing live updates later as well:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sigerson-cup-the-weekend-preview/
Yeah true, he was only brought on as a sub in the first round against NUI, as they knew there could be a problem later on.
DIT are currently leading 6pts to 2
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 22, 2013, 01:09:30 PM
Quote from: Keane on February 22, 2013, 12:27:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 22, 2013, 12:01:33 PM
DIT will be without Sean George today, big loss, had a great game for Ballymun last week. Still think they will give DCU a good game. 12.45k/o
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=186168
They've been more or less planning without him most of the time as far as I know, he would have been a nice addition but not exactly a loss as such.
I still fancy DIT to have a right cut off DCU. DCU are justifiably favourites but should be warm rather than red hot. Fancy DIT to get one over them tbh. Don't think Athlone will have enough to do the same to UCC, especially if Shine is missing.
Previews of the two matches here by the way, and we'll be doing live updates later as well:
http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sigerson-cup-the-weekend-preview/
Yeah true, he was only brought on as a sub in the first round against NUI, as they knew there could be a problem later on.
DIT are currently leading 6pts to 2
Any good website or twitter feed to get updates?
To answer myself, I see @ColmGannon is giving updates on DIT v DCU
This one here is good http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=latest%20gaa%20scores&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.livegaelic.com%2Fscores%2F&ei=cW0nUdnbNcW7hAfOrYHYDw&usg=AFQjCNFslWcx86LJTaxxieZG7ims61YEUA
DIT Gaa on twitter , or thescore.ie
I hope DIT hold on and Knock DCU out.
DIT looking good for the win now.
1-10 to 0-07 51 mins gone
How did the tremch cup go lads and the corn mac leinn???
Keep er lit DIT!!
Yeah looking good, too many people thinking DCU had the compeitition won aready.
DIT were 3/1 to beat DCU today. Bernard Allen of Offaly got the goal, handy corner forward.
Full Time Result, DIT 1-11 - DCU 9pts. easy money :)
Congrats to DIT. Great win for them.
Good to see DCU out. Would expect UCC to beat Athlone in the second semi.
Quote from: yellowcard on February 22, 2013, 02:04:14 PM
Good to see DCU out. Would expect UCC to beat Athlone in the second semi.
Niall won't be happy.
Up Tubber! (Bernard Allen's Club)
Anyone know what time the final throws in tomorrow?
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 22, 2013, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on February 22, 2013, 02:04:14 PM
Good to see DCU out. Would expect UCC to beat Athlone in the second semi.
Niall won't be happy.
Looks like he followed through with his threat to not promote the game so.
Will he lose his big job now or will DCU simply withdraw from all GAA competitions??? :-[
Quote from: This Years Model on February 22, 2013, 02:23:49 PM
Up Tubber! (Bernard Allen's Club)
Anyone know what time the final throws in tomorrow?
Coverage starts on TG4 at 14.45 so it could be 15.00 or 15.30.
Report of DIT/DCU match from HS. Only 1 point from play from DCU?
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Sigerson Cup: DIT stun DCU
22 February 2013
Martin Reilly of DIT closes down DCU's Chris McGuinness during the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup semi-final ©INPHO/James CrombieDIT are through to the Sigerson Cup final after beating DCU by 1-11 to 0-9.
In this afternoon's first semi-final at Athlone IT, the 7/2 outsiders dumped out the competition favourites thanks largely to a goal from Offaly's Bernard Allen nine minutes from the end.
Substitute Allen sent his shot past James Farrelly to add to a brilliant six-point haul from Mayo forward Jason Doherty (five of which were frees).
With Mayo's Aidan O'Shea and Cavan's David Givney (0-2) bossing midfield, the winners deployed Meath's Bryan Menton to curb the threat of DCU talisman Michael Murphy. He did an excellent job, silencing the Donegal star from open play - but Murphy still floated over eight frees to top-score.
DCU's only score from play came in the 42nd minute courtesy of Dublin's Dean Rock as purposeful DIT advanced to the final, where they will face the winners of today's second semi-final between hosts AIT and UCC.
DIT - R Lambert; K O'Brien, B Menton, G O'Hare; R Sheridan (0-1), N Devereaux, C Walshe; A O'Shea, D Givney (0-2); M Reilly, M Collins, D O'Sullivan (0-1); C Reddin, T O'Connor, J Doherty (0-6, 5f). Subs: B Allen (1-0) for Reddin, P Maguire for O'Sullivan, A Nestor (0-1f).
DCU - J Farrelly; C Boyle, J Cooper, W Lowry; J Brady, C Daly, M Quinn; F O Curraoin, J McCarthy; C McGuinness, P Flynn, A McFadden; P Ryan, M Murphy (0-8f), D Rock (0-1). Subs: C Dunleavy for Daly, D Byrne for McFadden, G Sweeney for Rock, B Donnelly for O Curraoin, D Smith for Quinn.
Referee - Michael Duffy.
UCC are ahead 0-12 to 1-4 in the second semi against AIT.
Givney going to play 3 games in 3 days??????????????????????
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 22, 2013, 03:21:59 PM
Report of DIT/DCU match from HS. Only 1 point from play from DCU?
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Sigerson Cup: DIT stun DCU
22 February 2013
Martin Reilly of DIT closes down DCU's Chris McGuinness during the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup semi-final ©INPHO/James CrombieDIT are through to the Sigerson Cup final after beating DCU by 1-11 to 0-9.
In this afternoon's first semi-final at Athlone IT, the 7/2 outsiders dumped out the competition favourites thanks largely to a goal from Offaly's Bernard Allen nine minutes from the end.
Substitute Allen sent his shot past James Farrelly to add to a brilliant six-point haul from Mayo forward Jason Doherty (five of which were frees).
With Mayo's Aidan O'Shea and Cavan's David Givney (0-2) bossing midfield, the winners deployed Meath's Bryan Menton to curb the threat of DCU talisman Michael Murphy. He did an excellent job, silencing the Donegal star from open play - but Murphy still floated over eight frees to top-score.
DCU's only score from play came in the 42nd minute courtesy of Dublin's Dean Rock as purposeful DIT advanced to the final, where they will face the winners of today's second semi-final between hosts AIT and UCC.
DIT - R Lambert; K O'Brien, B Menton, G O'Hare; R Sheridan (0-1), N Devereaux, C Walshe; A O'Shea, D Givney (0-2); M Reilly, M Collins, D O'Sullivan (0-1); C Reddin, T O'Connor, J Doherty (0-6, 5f). Subs: B Allen (1-0) for Reddin, P Maguire for O'Sullivan, A Nestor (0-1f).
DCU - J Farrelly; C Boyle, J Cooper, W Lowry; J Brady, C Daly, M Quinn; F O Curraoin, J McCarthy; C McGuinness, P Flynn, A McFadden; P Ryan, M Murphy (0-8f), D Rock (0-1). Subs: C Dunleavy for Daly, D Byrne for McFadden, G Sweeney for Rock, B Donnelly for O Curraoin, D Smith for Quinn.
Referee - Michael Duffy.
Dean Rock subbed, must be difficult to come down from high of Ballymun qualifying for All Ireland club final to focus on Sigerson. Ó Curraoin and Quinn subbed also, Quinn being such a stand out player normally is surprising.
Great to hear Aidan O'Shea and Jason Doherty going well, a confident Doherty can be a dangerous player.
AIT are on the end of hiding ,about 3 minutes left , UCC 1-19 - Athlone 1-7
It was always going to be a bridge to far for them , great for them as hosts to make the weekend.
Yeah, looks like they just couldn't step up to that level. Fair play to them for getting there though, that was big for them as hosts.
See Bernard Allen's superb goal as DIT beat holders DCU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39g6C0k4QKQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39g6C0k4QKQ&feature=youtu.be)
Quote from: Any craic on February 22, 2013, 04:00:09 PM
See Bernard Allen's superb goal as DIT beat holders DCU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39g6C0k4QKQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39g6C0k4QKQ&feature=youtu.be)
Jerome what were the scores of the corn mac leinn and trench.cant find them anywhere
From the Twitter Machine - IT Blanchardstown beat Liverpool John Moores University 1-12 to 6 points I think. St. Pats beat Marino in the other semi.
Also from Twitter...
#CornNaMacLeinn Cup (FT): SRC 1-14 Cavan IT 0-9 #GAA #HEGAA
Good man AZ
See James McGivney's early goal for Athlone IT v UCC in today's Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup Semi-Final http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kma8SOqmJZE&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kma8SOqmJZE&feature=youtu.be)
Big win for UCC as well. Hard final to call, if I was pushed I'd fancy UCC.
I wonder who Niall Moyna will blame tonight? The GAA will suffer without his promotion. Hard lines Niall, sure just bring in a few stars for next year, make sure they have only done one degree first though! :P
Look ahead to the final
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/dit-ucc-sigerson-cup-805949-Feb2013/
Just back from semi finals in a very cold Athlone. DIT were very impressive all their key players O'Shea,Doherty,O'Sullivan etc stood out while DCU were poor, they had one tactic of knocking high ball into Murphy it was clear early on it wasn't going to be enough & DIT should have won by a lot more. Crazy odds of 7/2 before the game i think most could see DIT matched them for talent on the field.
The other game was a mismatch i guess fair play to AIT for getting that far. Under Billy Morgan UCC are
well organized unit, their pace caused Athlone all types of problems, their accuracy on frees & from play was superb. Crowd of around 200-300 €10 admission or 15 for the two days. Really hard final to call...i have slight fancy for DIT.
Ross, DIT are 5/6 tomorrow with cork the opposite. What ye reckon?
Quote from: ross4life on February 22, 2013, 07:56:42 PM
Just back from semi finals in a very cold Athlone. DIT were very impressive all their key players O'Shea,Doherty,O'Sullivan etc stood out while DCU were poor, they had one tactic of knocking high ball into Murphy it was clear early on it wasn't going to be enough & DIT should have won by a lot more. Crazy odds of 7/2 before the game i think most could see DIT matched them for talent on the field.
I believe our own Bryan Menton had a good game on Michael Murphy.
Quote from: Jinxy on February 22, 2013, 08:04:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 22, 2013, 07:56:42 PM
Just back from semi finals in a very cold Athlone. DIT were very impressive all their key players O'Shea,Doherty,O'Sullivan etc stood out while DCU were poor, they had one tactic of knocking high ball into Murphy it was clear early on it wasn't going to be enough & DIT should have won by a lot more. Crazy odds of 7/2 before the game i think most could see DIT matched them for talent on the field.
I believe our own Bryan Menton had a good game on Michael Murphy.
Yep he was one of DIT best defenders on show.
Quote from: theticklemister on February 22, 2013, 08:00:19 PM
Ross, DIT are 5/6 tomorrow with cork the opposite. What ye reckon?
As i said a hard one to call, i would normally go for the one with better value when placing a bet but i'd stick with the favourites on this one.
DIT v DCU first-half brief highlights, DIT were very impressive, Givney and O'Shea at midfield were well on top: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWcvcvN3bG0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWcvcvN3bG0)
2nd half highlights from DIT v DCU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef-_zVASZzw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef-_zVASZzw)
So how good are UCC and will they beat DIT today? This is UCC destroying AIT yesterday... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBvkFDG4W8&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBvkFDG4W8&feature=youtu.be)
What time is throw in today?
See IT Blanchardstown v St Pat's Drumcondra, Irish Daily Mail Trench Cup Final 1st-half action here from this lunchtime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL8WhGkzxRM&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL8WhGkzxRM&feature=youtu.be)
Great combination between O'Shea and Givney for the first score. That Givney looks a real class player.
Quote from: Tubberman on February 23, 2013, 03:03:32 PM
Great combination between O'Shea and Givney for the first score. That Givney looks a real class player.
Givney has the potential to be some player, think he's down to start midfield for Ulster in Railway Cup final tomorrow.
See the best score by IT Blanchardstown in today's Irish Daily Mail Trench Cup Final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972oxRtSghw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972oxRtSghw)
Great goal.
The colour commentator in particular sounds like he's been sedated, though. May as well be discussing tax returns as a major final.
DIT better in midfield,going forward and defending.
sublime finish from jason doc .Ht 2.04 to 0.04
Looking at some of the names on DIT's teamsheet its baffling how they were rated 4/1 to beat DCU.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
DIT better in midfield,going forward and defending.
That's fairly comprehensive! :)
Eoin O'Mahony must be sick of the sight of Tomás O'Connor!
Givney man of the match?* comprehensive win by DIT. edit i see Menton number 3 got it.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Givney man of the match? comprehensive win by DIT
He should've been but some ejit picked Menton at fb which is bizarre but there you go.
Some of the most clinical goal scoring I've seen. All three were excellent.
Still can believe how strong Aidan O'Shea is, people jumping off the ground catch him in the air and they just bounce off him. I used to be sceptical but he's easily the best midfielder in the country right now, on top of his obvious physical advantages he's improved considerably as a passer and a scorer from distance - or on goal as was the case today.
Final score ?
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2013, 04:26:58 PM
Some of the most clinical goal scoring I've seen. All three were excellent.
Still can believe how strong Aidan O'Shea is, people jumping off the ground catch him in the air and they just bounce off him. I used to be sceptical but he's easily the best midfielder in the country right now, on top of his obvious physical advantages he's improved considerably as a passer and a scorer from distance - or on goal as was the case today.
He's good but the best in Ireland? Not yet anyway. He wasn't even the best midfielder on the pitch today.
Delighted for Givney, I've seen him lose a Junior Championship final that he dragged his team to as a 19 year old, an U21 Ulster Final against a Michael Murphy inspired Donegal so it'll mean a lot for him to get some silverware. I don't know if 3 games in 3 days is too much for him but I do hope he gets to play some part tomorrow if he's able.
Quote from: Itchy on February 23, 2013, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2013, 04:26:58 PM
Some of the most clinical goal scoring I've seen. All three were excellent.
Still can believe how strong Aidan O'Shea is, people jumping off the ground catch him in the air and they just bounce off him. I used to be sceptical but he's easily the best midfielder in the country right now, on top of his obvious physical advantages he's improved considerably as a passer and a scorer from distance - or on goal as was the case today.
He's good but the best in Ireland? Not yet anyway. He wasn't even the best midfielder on the pitch today.
To my eyes he was. Just about everything he did worked today.
I can't think of a single midfielder I'd put above him. Aidan Walsh is a classy operator but he's not as good in the air as O'Shea, though no one is. You just can't teach that sort of size, you either have it and know how to use it properly or you don't. Walsh is more mobile - finesse is a strange word to use in relation to a man Walsh's size, but in compassion it's correct - but as a pure midfielder O'Shea is the one you'd have to pick if you were pushed. You need a sledgehammer in the middle above anything else and O'Shea provides a great platform for whatever team he's on.
Rory Kavanagh , Sean Kavanagh, Michael Darragh McCauley and Bryan Sheehan aren't even in discussion for me. Not that any of them are bad players - Sean K is one of the best attacking footballers in the country - but they all have deficiencies as midfielders when compared to O'Shea.
Did o Shea catch a clean kick out today for someone unmatched in the air? It was givney who put his hand on nearly all of them. Really dont know how you could watch that game today and come to that conclusion. Is anyone else in agreement with my Roscommon friend? Best midfielder in Ireland, Sean Cavanagh would be mine.
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2013, 04:36:45 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 23, 2013, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2013, 04:26:58 PM
Some of the most clinical goal scoring I've seen. All three were excellent.
Still can believe how strong Aidan O'Shea is, people jumping off the ground catch him in the air and they just bounce off him. I used to be sceptical but he's easily the best midfielder in the country right now, on top of his obvious physical advantages he's improved considerably as a passer and a scorer from distance - or on goal as was the case today.
He's good but the best in Ireland? Not yet anyway. He wasn't even the best midfielder on the pitch today.
To my eyes he was. Just about everything he did worked today.
I can't think of a single midfielder I'd put above him. Aidan Walsh is a classy operator but he's not as good in the air as O'Shea, though no one is. You just can't teach that sort of size, you either have it and know how to use it properly or you don't. Walsh is more mobile but as a pure midfielder O'Shea is the one you'd have to pick if you were pushed.
Rory Kavanagh , Sean Kavanagh, Michael Darragh McCauley or Bryan Sheehan aren't even in discussion for me.
I can , David Givney on present form. O Shea was quiet in my opinion. Givney was the most dominant of the 4 midfield players, and the best player on the field. unless you are Stevie Wonder how could you not see that.
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 23, 2013, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2013, 04:36:45 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 23, 2013, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2013, 04:26:58 PM
Some of the most clinical goal scoring I've seen. All three were excellent.
Still can believe how strong Aidan O'Shea is, people jumping off the ground catch him in the air and they just bounce off him. I used to be sceptical but he's easily the best midfielder in the country right now, on top of his obvious physical advantages he's improved considerably as a passer and a scorer from distance - or on goal as was the case today.
He's good but the best in Ireland? Not yet anyway. He wasn't even the best midfielder on the pitch today.
To my eyes he was. Just about everything he did worked today.
I can't think of a single midfielder I'd put above him. Aidan Walsh is a classy operator but he's not as good in the air as O'Shea, though no one is. You just can't teach that sort of size, you either have it and know how to use it properly or you don't. Walsh is more mobile but as a pure midfielder O'Shea is the one you'd have to pick if you were pushed.
Rory Kavanagh , Sean Kavanagh, Michael Darragh McCauley or Bryan Sheehan aren't even in discussion for me.
I can , David Givney on present form. O Shea was quiet in my opinion. Givney was the most dominant of the 4 midfield players, and the best player on the field. unless you are Stevie Wonder how could you not see that.
Both were good but it was much closer to a push than some on here seem to think. Would Givney have as good without O'Shea taking attention off him, or would O'Shea without Givney taking attention off him? Of course not - they both benefitted each other.
O'Shea played nearly all the second half as extra defender.
He wouldn't push big Neilly Gallagher about.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2013, 04:47:16 PM
He wouldn't push big Neilly Gallagher about.
He may not but Gallagher isn't even assuredly the best midfielder on the Donegal panel, nevermind in the country.
Carlow's Brendan Murphy is the best midfielder in the country.
Thought they were both very good and complemented each other well but Givney will probably get player of the tournament from what I've heard.
You would have to say that O'Shea has been consistently good for a few years now and is up there as one of the best in the country. For me he would be ahead of Givney although if Givney maintains this form that may need to be re-assessed. Most of the best midfielders at the minute are all early 20's and we could be getting back to the Whelan, O'Se, McGrane era of great midfielders.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on February 23, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
Carlow's Brendan Murphy is the best midfielder in the country.
Very good player, but poor discipline.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on February 23, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
Carlow's Brendan Murphy is the best midfielder in the country.
Brendan Murphy isn't even the best Brendan Murphy on the Carlow panel, never mind the best midfielder in Carlow. (Did I do it right?)
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on February 23, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
Carlow's Brendan Murphy is the best midfielder in the country.
He's in the conversation but being a very good footballer on a bad (note bad and not even average) team will always add to how good you're perceived to be. O'Shea's been doing it for one of the top four teams in the country against the best teams in the country and that's a harder earned achievement.
Few of DIT panel will be there next year, not sure if Givneyy if will be. Think he is doing a Masters.He was in Sligo IT for the last 4 years before this year.
Darren O Sullivan and Tomas O Connor will be there, Brian Menton aswell,. Think Mark Collins will be gone, he was in UCC previously.
Quote from: Syferus on February 23, 2013, 04:26:58 PM
Aidan O'Shea ...... he's easily the best midfielder in the country right now, on top of his obvious physical advantages he's improved considerably as a passer and a scorer from distance - or on goal as was the case today.
Syf still brown nosing the rhubarbs FFS >:(
Get a life of your own buckeen.
What age is Darren O'Sullivan ? Is he not a bit old for school?
Quote from: Westside on February 23, 2013, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on February 23, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
Carlow's Brendan Murphy is the best midfielder in the country.
Brendan Murphy isn't even the best Brendan Murphy on the Carlow panel, never mind the best midfielder in Carlow. (Did I do it right?)
Dunno, but it was a good line!
Quote from: Minder on February 23, 2013, 05:25:04 PM
What age is Darren O'Sullivan ? Is he not a bit old for school?
27, its his first year back, so he could be there until he is 30. Suppose depends how long the course is. Tomas O Connor is 27/28.
O'Shea was the best midfielder on show yesterday but not today Givney was. Even at minor level AOS stood out but it's still unknown what his best position is. Jason Doherty without a doubt was DIT best forward in Sigerson can he keep his good form going? i thought todays final was going to be a closer game though DIT strong defence & well taken goals made sure it wasn't.
Not many teams have won the league & Sigerson double. Well done to DIT on a fine achievement.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on February 23, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
Carlow's Brendan Murphy is the best midfielder in the country.
Tis no wonder so that he was being courted so furtively by a county thats often in the media.
Quote from: heffo on February 23, 2013, 05:40:54 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on February 23, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
Carlow's Brendan Murphy is the best midfielder in the country.
Tis no wonder so that he was being courted so furtively by a county thats often in the media.
It would have never worked out. He would have been another Garvan Ware.
I'm not sure if Darren O Sullivan was in college before this he was in Ulster Bank for years. He is some addition to any college team.
Quote from: scoopmine on February 23, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
I'm not sure if Darren O Sullivan was in college before this he was in Ulster Bank for years. He is some addition to any college team.
I didn't think he stood out today, wondered was he carrying an injury
He went yday with cramp but I thought he was on a lot of ball and just laid it off kept it simple. Givney my MOTM also number 6 Nick Devereux think he is on the Dublin panel made a couple of great interceptions.
Quote from: ross4life on February 23, 2013, 05:32:43 PM
O'Shea was the best midfielder on show yesterday but not today Givney was. Even at minor level AOS stood out but it's still unknown what his best position is. Jason Doherty without a doubt was DIT best forward in Sigerson can he keep his good form going? i thought todays final was going to be a closer game though DIT strong defence & well taken goals made sure it wasn't.
Not many teams have won the league & Sigerson double. Well done to DIT on a fine achievement.
It's very clear now that midfield is O'Shea's best position. I think the only reason you'd ever move him back to full-forward would be in desperation because you have no big target man to lay the ball up to. Mayo don't have that sort of player at all so it's doubly telling what his best position is - he'd be in there right now if it wasn't because Mayo have no shortage of good midfielders.
A feature of his years Sigerson is the high number of 'older' players playing. There would have been a time when Sigerson players were 19-21. 22 would have been old. Now you have lads touring the colleges and boys out working heading back to college (recession probably contributing factor) So no wonder GAA brought in a rule to make sure they can only do two courses. IMO they should also have a rule that all players are 23 or under along with the two course rule. This would mean the dcu's of his world are forced to invest in younger players instead of players who have already made it.
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2013, 11:04:17 PM
A feature of his years Sigerson is the high number of 'older' players playing. There would have been a time when Sigerson players were 19-21. 22 would have been old. Now you have lads touring the colleges and boys out working heading back to college (recession probably contributing factor) So no wonder GAA brought in a rule to make sure they can only do two courses. IMO they should also have a rule that all players are 23 or under along with the two course rule. This would mean the dcu's of his world are forced to invest in younger players instead of players who have already made it.
When was that time?
Sure how many years was Jim Mcguinness in college. Its been like this for a long time.
Disagree. I played in early 90's and it was the exception rather than the rule. McGuinness was an exception as he floated from college to college in his late 20's early 30's. Today every college team (at least all the big Dublin ones) has a few Jim McGuinness types. Also what you also have today are scholarships which entice older lads back to college.
Quote from: ck on February 24, 2013, 12:40:39 AM
Disagree. I played in early 90's and it was the exception rather than the rule. McGuinness was an exception as he floated from college to college in his late 20's early 30's. Today every college team (at least all the big Dublin ones) has a few Jim McGuinness types. Also what you also have today are scholarships which entice older lads back to college.
He didn't float, he studied Sports Recreation in Tralee and got a Diploma and then studied for a Masters in UUJ, then studied Sports Psychology in John Moores Liverpool. He was progressing on each time, not dropping out and changing courses.
Hence why he is now working with Celtic with his qualifications...
Forget to add, he never did his Leaving Cert. Left school at 16, returnted at 25 and sat his Leaving Cert and then went on to Tralee - more to the reason why he was Playing Sigerson late 20's
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 24, 2013, 01:04:28 AM
Forget to add, he never did his Leaving Cert. Left school at 16, returnted at 25 and sat his Leaving Cert and then went on to Tralee - more to the reason why he was Playing Sigerson late 20's
This McGuinness lad will go far.
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2013, 11:04:17 PM
A feature of his years Sigerson is the high number of 'older' players playing. There would have been a time when Sigerson players were 19-21. 22 would have been old. Now you have lads touring the colleges and boys out working heading back to college (recession probably contributing factor) So no wonder GAA brought in a rule to make sure they can only do two courses. IMO they should also have a rule that all players are 23 or under along with the two course rule. This would mean the dcu's of his world are forced to invest in younger players instead of players who have already made it.
I agree. Otherwise why not let Darran O'Sullivan repeat the Leaving Cert and play Hogan Cup?
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 24, 2013, 01:04:28 AM
Forget to add, he never did his Leaving Cert. Left school at 16, returnted at 25 and sat his Leaving Cert and then went on to Tralee - more to the reason why he was Playing Sigerson late 20's
most mature students leave school young without taking their leaving or a levels. not the conventional route, but then they're not going to be the conventional type of student either. you get a student with a bit of life knowledge, skills and experiences that other students from the conventional path just don't have. + conventional students are shite at shovelling muck. who'd have them around the house?
Hi lads,
Tactical analysis of yesterday's game up here for anyone interested http://action81.com/blog/?p=6776
Emmet
The Sigerson will be moved to pre-Christmas one day, it's only really a matter of how soon the GAA get off their asses and actually try to tackle the insane Frankenstein's monster of a calendar they currently operate on.
Quote from: Syferus on February 24, 2013, 05:12:16 PM
the GAA get off their asses and actually try to tackle the insane Frankenstein's monster of a calendar they currently operate on.
What will they do - move to the Jewish/Moslem/Chinese calendar??
There's an oft-repeated error in that first article. 1998 Ulster final was tied at 0-7 apiece before Brolly's late goal. Noel Hegarty slotted over a point after that for final score of 1-7 to 0-8. It wasn't a case of Brolly's goal wiping out a two point lead.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 24, 2013, 01:43:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 24, 2013, 01:04:28 AM
Forget to add, he never did his Leaving Cert. Left school at 16, returnted at 25 and sat his Leaving Cert and then went on to Tralee - more to the reason why he was Playing Sigerson late 20's
This McGuinness lad will go far.
Doubt it, he hasn't got the drive for it.....
Fantastic achievement by Mary I in reaching the Fitzgibbon Final - see the last-minute drama here from Galway today - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIwpxOpMFqI&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIwpxOpMFqI&feature=youtu.be)
You don't see this too often, listen in to the post-match team talk in the Mary I huddle after today's Irish Daily Mail Fitzgibbon Cup Semi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1kYkFG0dhg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1kYkFG0dhg&feature=youtu.be)
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