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Some odds.

Rory Mcilroy (Ireland,Northern Ireland,Ulster,United Kingdom) 7/1
Lee Westwood (England) 11/1
Luke Donald (England) 11/1
Martin Kaymer (Germany) 25/1
Graeme Mcdowell (Ireland,Northern Ireland,Ulster,United Kingdom,Alabama) 28/1
Sergio Garcia (Spain) 30/1
Nick Watney (USA) 35/1
Steve Stricker (USA) 35/1
Paddy Harrington(Ireland) 35/1
Jason Day (Australia) 40/1
Matt Kuchar (USA) 40/1
Phil Mick (USA) 45/1

I like the look of Jason Day at 40/1 and am also going to have a punt on Garcia,and I would do harm to myself if Westwood won and I hadn't him backed.
Might also have a few quid on Mcdowell.

Dear LaoisLad,

Change that title to the British Open, lol.

Orior

Quote from: Orior on July 11, 2011, 01:39:47 PM
Dear LaoisLad,

Change that title to the British Open, lol.

Orior

No.

Typical southern Brit-loving cap-tipping Queen-welcoming thread title.

I suppose it's The Grand National at Aintree as well.

SHAME.

The bookies have definitely tightened up on big prices in the past year. There's not the romantic three-figure prices around that there used to be.

My 2 e/w selections:

Kuchar 40/1
Goosen 50/1
Rose 50/1
Schwartzel 50/1
Clarke 150/1 or E Molinari 100/1

Luke Donald might finally justify his no.1 position. Shot a 63 yesterday after 2 67s.

Can't be long until Hardy has something to say.

Who is paying out on the biggest number of places for an e/w?

It's hard to look past the usual suspects in the top 6 or so. Donald, McIlroy, GMac, Westwood should all be thereabouts.

Is there a zero missing from Harrington's odd of 35/1?

Quote from: thewobbler on July 11, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
The bookies have definitely tightened up on big prices in the past year. There's not the romantic three-figure prices around that there used to be.

My 2 e/w selections:

Kuchar 40/1
Goosen 50/1
Rose 50/1
Schwartzel 50/1
Clarke 150/1 or E Molinari 100/1

Boylesports paying 8 places and most other firms probably 7 so that'd probably explain the shortening in the bigger prices..

Was watching the coverage yesterday, Peter Alliss must of mentioned everyone in the field as an outside bet for next week.

I'll probably be the same as you and do a couple of quid e/w on 4-5 players. I just need to narrow it down from my current 20 fancies..

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Who is paying out on the biggest number of places for an e/w?

It's hard to look past the usual suspects in the top 6 or so. Donald, McIlroy, GMac, Westwood should all be thereabouts.

Is there a zero missing from Harrington's odd of 35/1?

Boyles are paying top 8. I would back Harrington @ 35/1 before I would back either Donald or Westwood @ 11/1 to be honest.

Can't agree Rossie. Donald and Westwood are so consistent these days that if they're beaten, it's by someone having a superb tournament. They're always in the mix, and links golf isn't going to phase either of them. Harrington gets beaten because he can't keep the ball on the fairway.

http://www.opengolf.com/en/TeeTimes/TeeTimes.aspx

Pairings announced also

Quote from: thewobbler on July 11, 2011, 02:31:46 PM
Can't agree Rossie. Donald and Westwood are so consistent these days that if they're beaten, it's by someone having a superb tournament. They're always in the mix, and links golf isn't going to phase either of them. Harrington gets beaten because he can't keep the ball on the fairway.

Diiferent strokes ( ;D) in a major.

Westwood and Donald will probably do what they always do.

Jason Day had a bad weekend but has had two good majors recently and obviously Schwartzel is worth a look. Sergio is finding form lately but must be added to the Westwood and Donald camp.

Harrington is more likely to win than any of the above but equally could join one or two of them in missing the cut. I would love to see big Darren have a real crack at it.

The two Macs (Mc) have to both have serious chances. There aren't that many major winners in the field, even less major winners who have played well recently and even less again who are links born and bred.

That said the Yanks are going to start winning again at some stage. Watney and Stricker have been in good form and one could easily win.

I reckon one of the last 4 names above will win.

i think harrington is worth an e/w bet but thought he would have been around 66/1 given his form.
be interesting to see wat way stricker goes, should be in the mix come sunday

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Who is paying out on the biggest number of places for an e/w?

It's hard to look past the usual suspects in the top 6 or so. Donald, McIlroy, GMac, Westwood should all be thereabouts.

Is there a zero missing from Harrington's odd of 35/1?

McLeans offering 6 places and will refund bets if McIlroy wins.

1000/1 outsider won the last time here and it may well be the same again.  The course is a funny one with all sorts of humps and hollows meaning that a good drive might not end up as such and vice versa.  If I was going to bet on this it'd be a few outsiders on betfair and I'd not worry about the top 7 or 8 places.  With the difference in prices it's mad to bet on an outsider with a bookie.

Might back mickelson at 50.0 on betfair - he has a terrible open record, but that's a tempting price.

btw I have given up on the fantasy golf. I've forgotten to select a team too many times.
I would defo have won the thing if it wasn't for that.

Wobbler I'm not taking away from how good Westwood and Donald are but as muppet said its a major and they have yet to prove they can win one. That why I couldnt back either.

A huge factor this week will be the weather. The rain and wind could take out half the field depending on the draw.

I have only 1 bet done yet and that was Goosen at 85 on betfair. Massive price for a guy who has 5 top 10s in past ten years and who worst finish in that time was 32nd.

Will back 1 or 2 of the "irish" lads and a yank or 2. Will look at some of the big priced yanks like Overton @ 300/1 rather than the more obvious picks

Quote from: Rossie11 on July 11, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
Wobbler I'm not taking away from how good Westwood and Donald are but as muppet said its a major and they have yet to prove they can win one. That why I couldnt back either.

A huge factor this week will be the weather. The rain and wind could take out half the field depending on the draw.

I have only 1 bet done yet and that was Goosen at 85 on betfair. Massive price for a guy who has 5 top 10s in past ten years and who worst finish in that time was 32nd.

Will back 1 or 2 of the "irish" lads and a yank or 2. Will look at some of the big priced yanks like Overton @ 300/1 rather than the more obvious picks

Don't like goosen at all, i think his major winning days are behind him (well until he hits senior status).  I like the call on overton though, that's the type of guy I'm going to back, good solid player who's won a few times and is a big big price.  Thw guy Mark Wilson has won twice in the states this year and is near 400/1.  Short hitter, but i get the feeling that short might be better on this course.

Quote from: Rossie11 on July 11, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
Wobbler I'm not taking away from how good Westwood and Donald are but as muppet said its a major and they have yet to prove they can win one. That why I couldnt back either.

A huge factor this week will be the weather. The rain and wind could take out half the field depending on the draw.

I have only 1 bet done yet and that was Goosen at 85 on betfair. Massive price for a guy who has 5 top 10s in past ten years and who worst finish in that time was 32nd.

Will back 1 or 2 of the "irish" lads and a yank or 2. Will look at some of the big priced yanks like Overton @ 300/1 rather than the more obvious picks

Not sure the weather is going to play a major part, thursday Friday look dry and calm. matt kucher is playing great golf and played well at the weekend, outsiders for me todd hamilton, simon khan, rhys davis and brian davis who was 6th in 2003, cabera looked like he was showing some interst at the weekend

Mannassero is being talked up in some places. What are his chances?

Americans also seem to do well in this. Steve Stricker is in good form.

Quote from: Orangemac on July 11, 2011, 11:00:02 PM
Mannassero is being talked up in some places. What are his chances?

Americans also seem to do well in this. Steve Stricker is in good form.

Heres a preview from Bettingzone.co.uk  Bit long but worth a read.

Will it be Rory? Will it be Luke? Will it be Lee?


You can certainly give big chances to all three of the market leaders in this week's Open Championship and it's easy to quickly compile a list of their plus points.


But when I look at the odds, I see instant negatives. 12/1 about two players who have yet to win a major and 8/1 about a young man thrust into the full glare of the media spotlight who's trying to do what no male golfer has managed since the war - winning their second major immediately after capturing their first.


So if not the front three, where to begin the search?

Well, one interesting stat about previous Royal St George's winners is that 12 of the 13 had finished in the top 20 in their previous Open start. And it would have been 13 out of 13 if Thomas Bjorn (8th at Muirfield the year before) hadn't famously blown a three-shot lead with four to play in the 2003 Open at Sandwich.


So tackling the Kent course knowing that you've already performed well in Open conditions is clearly a big help.

Another confidence-booster for anyone trying to win any major is having a recent win under your belt.

Nine of the last 11 Open winners, including the 'strange' ones such at Louis Oosthuizen and Todd Hamilton, had won on the European or US Tour within the last 12 months and six of the last seven major winners had posted a victory on one of those two main Tours during the previous year (the exception, surprisingly, being McIlroy).


It's quite simple really. If you've won recently and have proven yourself on an Open layout, the chances are that you could be in for a big week.


The good news is that, although McIlroy, Donald and Westwood, meet those two criteria, so do other less heralded players whose odds are far greater.

The first of those is a man who already has a major under his belt, current Masters champion Charl Schwartzel.

The Green Jacket winner is one of the most improved major players on the planet and to prove that, how's this for a stat. For the last seven majors running, Schwartzel has produced his best ever performance in the particular major he was playing.

So having continued that streak by setting PBs of 1st at The Masters and 9th in the US Open, the trends say he'll improve on his Open best of 14th at St Andrews last year.

The 26-year-old Schwartzel, who stood by the 18th green applauding his big pal Louis Oosthuizen to victory last year, has already racked up two wins in 2011 and seven on the European Tour in all so has a massive future.

Interestingly, the last Open to be played on a hard, fast course - the expected lie of the land for Royal St George's - was Hoylake in 2006 and the tied 22nd he managed there was the only top 25 he posted in his first 13 starts in majors.

He has further good form on dry, fast running tracks so in terms of pure performance he should really be ranked right in amongst the favourites as opposed to a 50/1 hopeful.

Let's not argue though and cash in.

I like to bang this particular drum even though many remain defiantly deaf to it but, in recent years, driving accuracy has been more important in The Open than the US Open.


In the five US Opens played between 2006 and 2010 the average Driving Accuracy rank of the winner was 37th, whereas for the last five Open Champions it was 22nd. McIlroy, by theway, was 26th for DA at Congressional (again higher than the average Open winner) despite all the nonsense that was spouted about him never missing a fairway.


The most accurate driver in the US Open last month was Matteo Manassero and while (as expected!) it didn't do him much good at Congressional (he finished 54th) it should prove a much more potent weapon at fast and firm Royal St George's where having a lie in the fairway is key when trying to control your ball when firing into these hard greens.


Amateurs often do well at Opens as they've had recent experience of playing links golf and that was part of the reason why the then 16-year-old Manassero finished a superb 13th on his debut, and only Open start, at Turnberry two years ago.

Manassero played with Tom Watson that week so had a magical first taste of The Open given that his 59-year-old playing partner almost won the tournament.

Since then the young Italian has flourished and in the last year has managed two victories, making him first and second on the all-time list of youngest ever winners of a European Tour event.

The most recent came at the Malaysian Open and since then we've seen him put in another superb display in a big event by taking the 54-hole lead in the European Tour's flagship event, the BMW PGA Championship at Wentworth, where he eventually finished seventh.


While the US Open, as it has done in recent years, suited big hitters, Manassero's lack of length off the tee is no problem at Royal St George's and so is a much better fit for him.

He's young, he's fearless and he knows how to win. Have an each-way punt at 66s.

Next up is Robert Karlsson, a player whose odds wouldn't be anything like they are now if he was English instead of Swedish.

Karlsson can boast a second place (play-off loss at St Jude) and a fifth (Colonial) in his last four starts while he beat the best in Europe when capturing the Dubai World Championship at the end of November last year.

Links form? Yes. He won the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship in 2008 (also third in 2005) and has finished seventh (Turnberry) and 14th (St Andrews) in the last two Opens.

The vastly experienced Karlsson ranked in the top 10 for Driving Accuracy in both his recent top 10s at St Jude and Colonial so has his ball under control right now. And he appears to like playing in England having finished in the top 16 in five of his last six starts on English soil.

The 42-year-old has missed just one cut in the majors since the 2007 PGA Championship so he's very comfortable at this level now having struggled early in his career and everything appears to be building towards a peak moment.

His time could come at Royal St George's.

Trying to find a player with course form here is difficult given that golf has moved on so much since 2003 but it's interesting to note that KJ Choi finished tied 22nd despite shooting a horrid first round 77.

That was one of his best major finishes up until that point but since then he's shown up well in The Open. The Korean was third at halfway at Troon in 2004, third after 54 holes at Carnoustie in 2007 and the halfway leader and second with a round to go at Royal Birkdale in 2008.

The only disappointment is that he hasn't seen his efforts though and for all the good work he's done from Thursday to Saturday his best finishes are an eighth and two 16ths.


However, it's surely a matter of time before Choi does come on strong on a Sunday and he's becoming a force in the majors now with six top eight finishes to his name, the most recent at Augusta this year.

Choi's hand is strengthened by him becoming one of the hottest players in the game coming into Royal St George's.

A runner-up in the AT&T National on his last start, Choi's form figures staring from the Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill read: 6-8-3-1-12-40-22-MC-2.

A straight hitter, great bunker player and much improved putter (remember his bizarre front on croquet action putting action he tried at St Andrews last year?), Choi is brimming with confidence after his victory in the Players Championship at Sawgrass and looks a great shout at 50/1 (although we'll take the 45/1 for seven places).

Now for some really big prices.

Robert Rock is clearly in a good place after his win inthe Italian Open last month and top 25 in the US Open after a last-minute dash to Congressional.

Most recently he added a tied 31st in the Scottish Open which doesn't look that remarkable unless you take a look at his scorecard for his final 36 holes which shows three eagles and rounds of 65 and 66.

Rock is in cracking form and, what's more, he's a big fan of The Open too.

He made the cut at St Andrews on debut in 2005, was 16th at fast-runnning Hoylake in 2006 and an excellent seventh back at the Old Course in 2010.

Perhaps a sign of how far he's progressed is the fact that he seemed underwhelmed with his performance at Congressional despite finishing tied 23rd after no sort of preparation.

He fits the profile of a winner this year who finished in the top 20 on his last Open appearance so the 150/1 makes plenty of appeal, especially with seven places on offer

Hopefully this Englishman can make hay while the major media focus is on Donald and Westwood.

Would it surprise you to know that the man ranked 30th in the world is priced up at 300/1?

Yes, until you discover it's a Korean player still not on the radar of the average punter - Kyung-Tae Kim.

Japan or Asian Tour players often pop up unannounced in The Open and it's interesting to note that in 2006 when the course was playing firm, fast and fairly short both Hideto Tanihara (fifth) and SK Ho (11th) were high on the leaderboard.

Ho was also second at halfway at Royal St George's in 2003 so, if he's aware of that, Kim could be inspired by his fellow Korean's Open heroics.

Kim, 24, is starting to make his own history in the majors and has now made the cut in his last four, including a 30th at the recent US Open and a 48th at St Andrews last year.

Back in Asia, he's been in fine form of late. In May he racked up a win, a second and a third and was also 10th in the co-sanctioned Ballantines Championship.

Last time out he finished second in the Japan Tour's Mizuno Open where he ranked first in the Putting Average stats so he could just emerge as a surprise name in the top seven and land the huge odds available at Paddy Power

Think Im going for;

Westwood - Big major player, 2nd and 3rd in the last 2 years and top 5 in 5 of the last 7 majors. Due one
Garcia - If and it a big IF he can get some sort of putting going he will be hard to beat.  Form is coming too.
McDowell - Yet to put 4 rounds together this year but good lynx course player and has the minerals for it.
Harrington - Very quiet, knows how to get the job done and came into a bit of form last wk.
Goosen - Bit like Garcia, if he can get the putter going he could be contention.  A bit of form last wk too.
Kucher - Consistent top 10 player and played well last wk.

Good God!

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 12, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Think Im going for;

Westwood - Big major player, 2nd and 3rd in the last 2 years and top 5 in 5 of the last 7 majors. Due one
Garcia - If and it a big IF he can get some sort of putting going he will be hard to beat.  Form is coming too.
McDowell - Yet to put 4 rounds together this year but good lynx course player and has the minerals for it.
Harrington - Very quiet, knows how to get the job done and came into a bit of form last wk.
Goosen - Bit like Garcia, if he can get the putter going he could be contention.  A bit of form last wk too.
Kucher - Consistent top 10 player and played well last wk.

Wtf is a lynx course?

QuoteWtf is a lynx course?

Haven't stop laughing at that one yet!!!

Quote from: Declan on July 12, 2011, 02:44:43 PM

QuoteWtf is a lynx course?

Haven't stop laughing at that one yet!!!

That's cat.

harrington at 35/1 is a good price.i think boylesports are paying 8 places

Quote from: Declan on July 12, 2011, 02:44:43 PM

QuoteWtf is a lynx course?

Haven't stop laughing at that one yet!!!

I keep thinking of McDowell practicing with up round Portrush Ricky Bobby style, "You need to learn to drive with the fear, and there ain't nothin' more goddamn frightening than driving with live cougars on the tee box".

:D

a pile of cnuts

Quote from: thebigfella on July 12, 2011, 02:37:23 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 12, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Think Im going for;

Westwood - Big major player, 2nd and 3rd in the last 2 years and top 5 in 5 of the last 7 majors. Due one
Garcia - If and it a big IF he can get some sort of putting going he will be hard to beat.  Form is coming too.
McDowell - Yet to put 4 rounds together this year but good lynx course player and has the minerals for it.
Harrington - Very quiet, knows how to get the job done and came into a bit of form last wk.
Goosen - Bit like Garcia, if he can get the putter going he could be contention.  A bit of form last wk too.
Kucher - Consistent top 10 player and played well last wk.

Wtf is a lynx course?

Perhaps lynx deodrant bought the naming rights  to some golf cousre  ;D

Good one!!!

A man cant even make a spelling mistake these days without getting slaughtered!!!

Links Links and f**king more Links

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 12, 2011, 03:20:47 PM
Good one!!!

A man cant even make a spelling mistake these days without getting slaughtered!!!

Links Links and f**king more Links

Don't worry about it WGM tis Hardy and spelling he is fierce particular about it .

What happened to making newbies feeling welcome :-[

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 12, 2011, 03:30:02 PM
What happened to making newbies feeling welcome :-[

Sure you are welcome Wgm .Just make sure of your spelling anymore and everthing will be ok  ;)

Quote from: Bogball XV on July 11, 2011, 04:12:53 PM
Don't like goosen at all, i think his major winning days are behind him (well until he hits senior status).  I like the call on overton though, that's the type of guy I'm going to back, good solid player who's won a few times and is a big big price.  Thw guy Mark Wilson has won twice in the states this year and is near 400/1.  Short hitter, but i get the feeling that short might be better on this course.

I dont think Overton has managed to get over the line in a tournament yet, but he is a big talent. Stuart Appleby managed to overhaul him in a tournament last year with a 59 in the final round. I'd say he's a bit of a header, He completed his final round of the PGA last year in Whistling straits in just over two hours (thats a record).  Would like to see him do well.

Think Harry will come good this week. Apparently the rough is pretty sparse due to the very dry weather they have been having over there for the last few months, this will be condusive to his chaotic driving.

I think Poulter is going to win it

QuoteI think Poulter is going to win it

Ah Venter why ruin an otherwise sensible post with something like that !!!
Poulter is the Nickolas Bendner of golf.
If he was half as good as he thought he was he would have 10 majors won...

went for garcia or mc dowell 12/1. hope at least 1 of them is in the reckoning on the final day.

After much pin-sticking deliberation I am going for Westwood straight and each way bets on Kaymer and Rock.

Paddy Power is offering 10/1 at the minute on McIlroy to win The Open. Apparently he has the worst of the weather though for the 1st 2 days,  still I took a bet on him and M Laird to be best scottish finisher at 12/5. Bit of interest if nothing else.

I've taken GB and Ireland and the boss has taken the rest of the field for 50$.

In fairness Westwood or Donald could finally break the duck on home soil - and Harrington could show well. I hope McIlroy wins - but if not at least I hope he is in contention. I feel of all the latest major winners he is the only one that has the game and temperament to take it to the next level.

Matt Kuchar could have a good showing for the US.

QuoteI hope McIlroy wins - but if not at least I hope he is in contention. I feel of all the latest major winners he is the only one that has the game and temperament to take it to the next level.

Schwartzel is a very underrated player and I feel will go close again to another major very soon.

Quote from: Rossie11 on July 13, 2011, 03:02:57 PM

QuoteI hope McIlroy wins - but if not at least I hope he is in contention. I feel of all the latest major winners he is the only one that has the game and temperament to take it to the next level.

Schwartzel is a very underrated player and I feel will go close again to another major very soon.

Roscommon/Westwood double !

Not a big golf man but I've had small each way interests in Schwartzel (40/1), Oosthiuzen (100/1), Rock (125/1) and Kyung-tae Kim (300/1). I was pretty much guided by that preview put up a page or 2 back.

ANother tenner EW on Clarke, taking me over the £1000 barrier placed on him in 15 years without return.

Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
ANother tenner EW on Clarke, taking me over the £1000 barrier placed on him in 15 years without return.

;D

Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
ANother tenner EW on Clarke, taking me over the £1000 barrier placed on him in 15 years without return.

Something appropriate about it being a tonne.

BBC 1 1045 this evening, show on Rory and GMac's preparation for the Open followed by general preview show on BBC 2 at 1130.

Tips from the Racing Post supplement.

Steve Palmer (main golf tipster):

Schwartzel 2pts ew
McDowell 2pts ew
Choi 1.5pts ew
Harrington 1.5pts ew
Jacobson 1pt ew
Palmer 0.5pts ew

Jeremy Chapman:

Stricker 2pts ew
Donald 2pts ew
Jacobson 1pt ew
Goosen 1pt ew
Kuchar 1pt ew

Those looking for a Todd Hamilton/Ben Curtis-style winner, can go to Steve Marino this time.

Snedeker might be worth a shout, missed the cut last week, but fired a 6 odd under in the second round.  Garcia has to be in the mix and putting mightn't be as important with the winds they're expecting.  Clarkey is reknowned for his wind play too, but Rory isn't as last year's second round showed.
Other lads I might back if the prices are big enough are Mark Wilson, Aiken, Jacquelin, Na, Baddeley, Colsaerts, Manassero.  €2 a pop on betfair and most of them are about 400/1 odd.
Sure if you back enough, you might get a run with one of them!!  It's all about bragging rights isn't it?

Clann Eireann in Lurgan doing a good thing, you pay £10, pick six players and whoever has the lowest score for the tournament wins £500.

Nice wee interest to have the whole tournament, this is the second time they have done it after the US Open.

Anyway at the US Open I had a US PGA website that allowed me to create a mini leaderboard with my six players at the top so i could keep track of them, anywhere with the sae for this?

For the record I did two this time. One was Steve Palmer's picks above (with McIlroy instead of Jacobson). I can't remember the other six and can't find my sheet now!

Who does your man McWilliams tip in Irish News? His tips are never far away and I think i'll have a flutter.

Not a great start for McIlroy. +2 after 3.

I had a small e/w on Westwood, Kuchar and McDowell

Quote from: Don Johnson on July 14, 2011, 08:50:44 AM

Anyway at the US Open I had a US PGA website that allowed me to create a mini leaderboard with my six players at the top so i could keep track of them, anywhere with the sae for this?

http://scoring.opengolf.com/leaderboard.sps?iTourNo=2011060&optsel=pos&lang=en
Don is this what your looking for. If you click on the flags beside the players you want to keep track of and then sort by marked players in the drop down menu it should do the job.

Backed Goosen Swartzel Overton Dyson Gmac and Harrington

Good man Rossie that is exactly what I meant, able to track them a lot easier now.

Did a three ball bet not looking great:

Poulter 5/4
McIlroy 10/11
Donald 1/1
Fisher 11/8
Karlsson 5/6

 Small e/ws on

Cabrera
Schwarzel.

Stuck a small amount on Dustin Johnson to win.

Have Donald and Manassero done e/w top 6 pay out.

Donald 11/1 and Manassero 55/1.

Good morning for Darren. He's had a full English breakfast followed by a continental. Now munching on a load of fruit washed down with a strawberry milkshake.

Quote from: Don Johnson on July 14, 2011, 08:50:44 AM

Anyway at the US Open I had a US PGA website that allowed me to create a mini leaderboard with my six players at the top so i could keep track of them, anywhere with the sae for this?

For the record I did two this time. One was Steve Palmer's picks above (with McIlroy instead of Jacobson). I can't remember the other six and can't find my sheet now!

The iPhone has an excellent Open app that does it.

Quote from: ONeill on July 14, 2011, 10:59:47 AM
Good morning for Darren. He's had a full English breakfast followed by a continental. Now munching on a load of fruit washed down with a strawberry milkshake.

Mmm. Fruit!

The BBC website is great for coverage, making a days work very difficult!

Bjorn is certainly trying to make up for the last time here - 6 under!!

Got Bjorn this morning at 50/1 with PP when he was -3! Thought it was VERY generous. What did he start at?

Quote from: Radda bout yeee on July 14, 2011, 12:56:56 PM
Got Bjorn this morning at 50/1 with PP when he was -3! Thought it was VERY generous. What did he start at?

Level Par  :)

Some 4 holes from Dustin Johnson, Birdie, Birdie, Hole in one, Birdie. -1 playing the last.

Is the weather to improve this afternoon?  I had heard the early starters had the worst of the weather.

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 13, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
BBC 1 1045 this evening, show on Rory and GMac's preparation for the Open followed by general preview show on BBC 2 at 1130.

Pass the sick bucket!! More fawning sh88e from OWC Watson.

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 14, 2011, 01:57:09 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 13, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
BBC 1 1045 this evening, show on Rory and GMac's preparation for the Open followed by general preview show on BBC 2 at 1130.

Pass the sick bucket!! More fawning sh88e from OWC Watson.

Catch a grip would ye!

Was a good show and despite the accent I can't help but like Gmac - a good man and his parents are very proud of him, he looks after them well now.  Don't see any evidence of an ego with him.

Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 14, 2011, 02:01:15 PM

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Quote from: whitegoodman on July 13, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
BBC 1 1045 this evening, show on Rory and GMac's preparation for the Open followed by general preview show on BBC 2 at 1130.

Pass the sick bucket!! More fawning sh88e from OWC Watson.

Catch a grip would ye!

Was a good show and despite the accent I can't help but like Gmac - a good man and his parents are very proud of him, he looks after them well now.  Don't see any evidence of an ego with him.

But he is a Cathestant.

Bogey, birdie, par for puddin Clarke. Maverick. He'll take an 8 somewhere followed by albatross.

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Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 14, 2011, 02:01:15 PM

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 14, 2011, 01:57:09 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 13, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
BBC 1 1045 this evening, show on Rory and GMac's preparation for the Open followed by general preview show on BBC 2 at 1130.

Pass the sick bucket!! More fawning sh88e from OWC Watson.

Catch a grip would ye!

Was a good show and despite the accent I can't help but like Gmac - a good man and his parents are very proud of him, he looks after them well now.  Don't see any evidence of an ego with him.

But he is a Cathestant.

:D a castle Cathesant too!

Quote from: Radda bout yeee on July 14, 2011, 12:56:56 PM
Got Bjorn this morning at 50/1 with PP when he was -3! Thought it was VERY generous. What did he start at?

http://www.golftoday.co.uk/tours/2005/Smurfit_European_Open/round4report.html

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Quote from: Radda bout yeee on July 14, 2011, 12:56:56 PM
Got Bjorn this morning at 50/1 with PP when he was -3! Thought it was VERY generous. What did he start at?

http://www.golftoday.co.uk/tours/2005/Smurfit_European_Open/round4report.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&page=wojciechowski/110410&sportCat=golf

If only i could remember what happened after this!  :P

I like that guy. He does an ESPN podcast on NCAA football as well.

Did anyone see Feherty on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno? Strange boy - didn't realise he was in a such a bad way with the booze and pills. Reckons he was on 2.5 bottles Bushmills and 40 Vicodin a day. Apparently Tom Watson took him under his wing and got him straightened out.

Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Sergio  even par
Mcilroy +1

Irish Men:
Harrington +3 after 11 holes

Westwood playing like he is a drummer in Def Leppard

Glad to see the McIlroy hype has ended! McDowell was coming on well at the end, hope he has a good day tomorrow, same for Clarke. 

Quote from: laoislad on July 14, 2011, 04:49:22 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Sergio  even par
Mcilroy +1

Irish Men:
Harrington +3 after 11 holes

What about big Darren and Gmac? 

Quote from: michaelg on July 14, 2011, 10:58:40 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 14, 2011, 04:49:22 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Sergio  even par
Mcilroy +1


Irish Men:
Harrington +3 after 11 holes

What about big Darren and Gmac?

He asked for updates on the Irishmen, so why would he include Clarke or McDowell?

Quote from: michaelg on July 14, 2011, 10:58:40 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 14, 2011, 04:49:22 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Sergio  even par
Mcilroy +1

Irish Men:
Harrington +3 after 11 holes

What about big Darren and Gmac?

They are in Burger King.

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Quote from: michaelg on July 14, 2011, 10:58:40 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 14, 2011, 04:49:22 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Sergio  even par
Mcilroy +1

Irish Men:
Harrington +3 after 11 holes

What about big Darren and Gmac?

They are in Burger King.

What with your inability to smell a wind up to digging an even bigger hole for yourself
trying to sidestep it, to your comedic efforts above, ::)
your not exactly on top of your game today, are you Muppet?

Quote from: Minder on July 14, 2011, 11:00:08 PM

Quote from: michaelg on July 14, 2011, 10:58:40 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 14, 2011, 04:49:22 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Sergio  even par
Mcilroy +1


Irish Men:
Harrington +3 after 11 holes

What about big Darren and Gmac?

He asked for updates on the Irishmen, so why would he include Clarke or McDowell?

Indeed - I would tend to agree with you - Just thought everyone on here was of the opinion that people from a unionist backgound were, well, Irish

Quote from: Tyrones own on July 14, 2011, 11:12:09 PM

Quote from: muppet on July 14, 2011, 11:00:24 PM

Quote from: michaelg on July 14, 2011, 10:58:40 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 14, 2011, 04:49:22 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 14, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Any confirmation on what rory and Sergio finished?

Any updates on the irishmen out on the course. Can't get into the f**king site in work

Sergio  even par
Mcilroy +1

Irish Men:
Harrington +3 after 11 holes

What about big Darren and Gmac?

They are in Burger King.

What with your inability to smell a wind up to digging an even bigger hole for yourself
trying to sidestep it, to your comedic efforts above, ::)
your not exactly on top of your game today, are you Muppet?

I might be sad, but you are following a sad b'stard all over the net.

Where does that leave you?

Nice work Laoislad!

Great to see big Darren going well. Would be brilliant if he could be in contention come Sunday.

Think Rory will have an average enough tournament.

Forecast is good for tomorrow so scoring could be low enough. +2 or +3 possible cut?

The thing about Darren is that there'll be a 76 carded at some stage.

The conditions are supposed to favour those out in the morning today.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 14, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
Nice work Laoislad!

Can be too easy sometimes.  :)

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
The thing about Darren is that there'll be a 76 carded at some stage.

Big Darren has been playing fairly well of late oneill . He won a tournament a few weeks ago don't tell me you hadn't a few quid on him  ;)

Darren birdies the third. He's up to 3rd. This is the weekend he begins to repay the debt. He double-bogeys the 4th, a hole he comfortably birdied yesterday. Puddin.

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 09:22:00 AM
Darren birdies the third. He's up to 3rd. This is the weekend he begins to repay the debt. He double-bogeys the 4th, a hole he comfortably birdied yesterday. Puddin.

:D :D

Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 15, 2011, 09:21:21 AM

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
The thing about Darren is that there'll be a 76 carded at some stage.

Big Darren has been playing fairly well of late oneill . He won a tournament a few weeks ago don't tell me you hadn't a few quid on him  ;)

No, I remember looking at his card score on the Sunday and he was something like +3 after a few holes and 3 behind the leader. Think he won because the leader imploded.

He's playing ok but only hit 4 fairways yesterday.

...eagle.

Some hoor.

Tom Watson aces the 6th!

Dazzler leads on -5, Godfrey will be pleased

Clarke playing some stuff, joint lead -5

Takes a 6. Needs to keep his head. Has a tendency to blow up.

clarke was looking good but normally tails off on the saturday.i hope he sticks in there

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
The thing about Darren is that there'll be a 76 carded at some stage.

a bit pessimistic, he'll never rack that up on his bad hole, an 8 or a 9 maybe, but 76??

Quote from: Don Johnson on July 14, 2011, 08:50:44 AM
Clann Eireann in Lurgan doing a good thing, you pay £10, pick six players and whoever has the lowest score for the tournament wins £500.

Nice wee interest to have the whole tournament, this is the second time they have done it after the US Open.

Anyway at the US Open I had a US PGA website that allowed me to create a mini leaderboard with my six players at the top so i could keep track of them, anywhere with the sae for this?

For the record I did two this time. One was Steve Palmer's picks above (with McIlroy instead of Jacobson). I can't remember the other six and can't find my sheet now!

good idea, the winning score might be fairly high this time though.  I'd say a fair few boys had westy and gmac in their 6.

Conditions look much better today but the scoring doesn't seem to be following it's lead, strange sort of tournament so far

Quote from: Don Johnson on July 14, 2011, 08:50:44 AM
Clann Eireann in Lurgan doing a good thing, you pay £10, pick six players and whoever has the lowest score for the tournament wins £500.

Nice wee interest to have the whole tournament, this is the second time they have done it after the US Open.

Anyway at the US Open I had a US PGA website that allowed me to create a mini leaderboard with my six players at the top so i could keep track of them, anywhere with the sae for this?

For the record I did two this time. One was Steve Palmer's picks above (with McIlroy instead of Jacobson). I can't remember the other six and can't find my sheet now!

How do the manage players who dont make the cut? Is the average taken for each player?

"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Rouge Diablo, the 70 closest scores to the leader "make the cut" for the weekend. Everyone tied for 70th place also goes through, so conceivably the whole field make it through, but that doesn't happen.

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Just issued an apology 'for the comment made at the end of Darren Clarke's round'  :D

Quote from: aontroim on July 15, 2011, 01:00:43 PM

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Just issued an apology 'for the comment made at the end of Darren Clarke's round'  :D

If anyone took offense at that comment they'd need their head seen to. 

I knew the phonelines would be in meltdown.

Quote from: thewobbler on July 15, 2011, 12:57:47 PM
Rouge Diablo, the 70 closest scores to the leader "make the cut" for the weekend. Everyone tied for 70th place also goes through, so conceivably the whole field make it through, but that doesn't happen.

My question was related to the Lurgan comps handling of a player who only plays two rounds as opposed to four. If they dont account for the cut, theoretically you could win the comp by picking 6 players who wont make the cut.

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Didn't realise Clare Balding was commentating

The BBC have done well to get Principal Skinner for the commentary team or is it Reverend Lovejoy?

Quote from: Muzz on July 15, 2011, 01:01:55 PM

Quote from: aontroim on July 15, 2011, 01:00:43 PM

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Just issued an apology 'for the comment made at the end of Darren Clarke's round'  :D

If anyone took offense at that comment they'd need their head seen to.

What happened? I missed it

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 03:42:02 PM

Quote from: Muzz on July 15, 2011, 01:01:55 PM

Quote from: aontroim on July 15, 2011, 01:00:43 PM

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Just issued an apology 'for the comment made at the end of Darren Clarke's round'  :D

If anyone took offense at that comment they'd need their head seen to.

What happened? I missed it

Andrew Cotter "Imagine what would happen if Darren won the Open after Graeme and Rory won a major in the last year"

Mark James "would be amazing...they might even stop fighting (over there)"

Rory looks to be going well today. I have him backed Each way so hope he continues.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 04:01:25 PM
Andrew Cotter "Imagine what would happen if Darren won the Open after Graeme and Rory won a major in the last year"

Mark James "would be amazing...they might even stop fighting (over there)"

I can forgive Mark James for that dopey comment. I can't forgive him for pissing a 10-6 Saturday evening lead up the wall at Brookline.

Mark James is a cnut anyway, what happened Sam Torrance this year?  Always preferred him to James, Grady etc.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 04:01:25 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 03:42:02 PM

Quote from: Muzz on July 15, 2011, 01:01:55 PM

Quote from: aontroim on July 15, 2011, 01:00:43 PM

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Just issued an apology 'for the comment made at the end of Darren Clarke's round'  :D

If anyone took offense at that comment they'd need their head seen to.

What happened? I missed it

Andrew Cotter "Imagine what would happen if Darren won the Open after Graeme and Rory won a major in the last year"

Mark James "would be amazing...they might even stop fighting (over there)"

I reckon the Oofas are speeddialling /emailing their complaints as we speak.

Personally, can't see much to whinge about in this instance. Just a loose throw away comment.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 04:01:25 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 03:42:02 PM

Quote from: Muzz on July 15, 2011, 01:01:55 PM

Quote from: aontroim on July 15, 2011, 01:00:43 PM

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
"They might even stop fighting"  ;D ;D

Just issued an apology 'for the comment made at the end of Darren Clarke's round'  :D

If anyone took offense at that comment they'd need their head seen to.

What happened? I missed it

Andrew Cotter "Imagine what would happen if Darren won the Open after Graeme and Rory won a major in the last year"

Mark James "would be amazing...they might even stop fighting (over there)"

Sure if it does stop you animals fighting up there it be great.

McIlroy having a bit of a bad spell, bogeyed the last and in trouble again now on the 9th.

rory leaving himself with a lot to do

BBC News seem to be under the impression Rory is from Britain, thought he was from Ireland myself.

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
BBC News seem to be under the impression Rory is from Britain, thought he was from Ireland myself.

(http://bitchslapmrng.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/logo_vector.jpg)

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
BBC News seem to be under the impression Rory is from Britain, thought he was from Ireland myself.

Britirish

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 05:28:49 PM

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
BBC News seem to be under the impression Rory is from Britain, thought he was from Ireland myself.

Britirish

Not talking about his nationality. They said "Britain's Rory McIlroy". Surely its the U.K.'s Rory McIlroy, Ireland's Rory McIlroy, Northern Ireland's Rory McIlroy, Ulster's Rory McIlroy, Europe's Rory McIlroy, Down's Rory McIlroy, Clan McIlroy's Rory, not Britain's.

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2011, 05:32:01 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 05:28:49 PM

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
BBC News seem to be under the impression Rory is from Britain, thought he was from Ireland myself.

Britirish

Not talking about his nationality. They said "Britain's Rory McIlroy". Surely its the U.K.'s Rory McIlroy, Ireland's Rory McIlroy, Northern Ireland's Rory McIlroy, Ulster's Rory McIlroy, Europe's Rory McIlroy, Down's Rory McIlroy, Clan McIlroy's Rory, not Britain's.

Its a golf thread for fcuk sake.  Looking like its all to play for over the weekend, any number of players can win this, esp if weather turns nasty on sunday. Would love to see Sergio win it

I honestly thought Rory was a bit silly not playing a tournament between the two majors. Very few of us could show up for works after 4 weeks off and expect to be at our best straight away.

However after a mediocre round yesterday and a better one today he is only 4 shots off the pace. I think he will improve more than the rest over the weekend and could easily win it.

Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 15, 2011, 05:23:54 PM

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
BBC News seem to be under the impression Rory is from Britain, thought he was from Ireland myself.

(http://bitchslapmrng.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/logo_vector.jpg)

:D

Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2011, 08:21:30 PM
I honestly thought Rory was a bit silly not playing a tournament between the two majors. Very few of us could show up for works after 4 weeks off and expect to be at our best straight away.

However after a mediocre round yesterday and a better one today he is only 4 shots off the pace. I think he will improve more than the rest over the weekend and could easily win it.

It's not like he hasn't picked up a club in 4 weeks though,I'm sure there have been tons of practice done.
Anyway he is only 4 behind so as you said he isn't out of it,he was never going to runaway with this like he did the US Open anyway.

Id love to stick a score e/w on someone but its just too hard to chose, the weather is going to play havoc tomorrow and Sunday which makes it even more difficult!!!

Britirish
[/quote]

That's very good! maybe, Brit-Irish  :)

given the weekend weather forecast, and the fact there is only 7 shots between 1st and last, ANYONE can still win this - it's going to be a lottery.

if i had to have a gamble, i will go Schwartzel - With Kaymer next favourite. Mickelson my outsider.

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 12, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Think Im going for;

Westwood - Big major player, 2nd and 3rd in the last 2 years and top 5 in 5 of the last 7 majors. Due one
Garcia - If and it a big IF he can get some sort of putting going he will be hard to beat.  Form is coming too.
McDowell - Yet to put 4 rounds together this year but good lynx course player and has the minerals for it.
Harrington - Very quiet, knows how to get the job done and came into a bit of form last wk.
Goosen - Bit like Garcia, if he can get the putter going he could be contention.  A bit of form last wk too.
Kucher - Consistent top 10 player and played well last wk.

Not only can I not spell but I am piss poor at predictions as well!!!

Either that or i am a complete Scud OR both.

Common Sergio

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 15, 2011, 10:16:06 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 12, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Think Im going for;

Westwood - Big major player, 2nd and 3rd in the last 2 years and top 5 in 5 of the last 7 majors. Due one
Garcia - If and it a big IF he can get some sort of putting going he will be hard to beat.  Form is coming too.
McDowell - Yet to put 4 rounds together this year but good lynx course player and has the minerals for it.
Harrington - Very quiet, knows how to get the job done and came into a bit of form last wk.
Goosen - Bit like Garcia, if he can get the putter going he could be contention.  A bit of form last wk too.
Kucher - Consistent top 10 player and played well last wk.

Not only can I not spell but I am piss poor at predictions as well!!!

Either that or i am a complete Scud OR both.

Common Sergio

You and the rest of the nation. I was sure Donald and Westwood would mount some sort of challenge.

Imagine the piss-up if Clarke went on and won this thing!  :o

With Harrington missing the cut and ending any Irish interest in the tournament Im with whitegoodman come on Sergio!

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 10:51:18 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 15, 2011, 10:16:06 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 12, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Think Im going for;

Westwood - Big major player, 2nd and 3rd in the last 2 years and top 5 in 5 of the last 7 majors. Due one
Garcia - If and it a big IF he can get some sort of putting going he will be hard to beat.  Form is coming too.
McDowell - Yet to put 4 rounds together this year but good lynx course player and has the minerals for it.
Harrington - Very quiet, knows how to get the job done and came into a bit of form last wk.
Goosen - Bit like Garcia, if he can get the putter going he could be contention.  A bit of form last wk too.
Kucher - Consistent top 10 player and played well last wk.

Not only can I not spell but I am piss poor at predictions as well!!!

Either that or i am a complete Scud OR both.

Common Sergio

You and the rest of the nation. I was sure Donald and Westwood would mount some sort of challenge.

Imagine the piss-up if Clarke went on and won this thing!  :o

Imagine the infighting on this board about what nationality he is if went on to win it ::)

Would be great to see it all the same.  Always thought he had the potential to be better than westwood but lost the head too easily.  It wouldnt be an exaggeration to say that if he had harringtons mindset he would be in the top 5 in the world.  He has the talent anyway.

I think his scoring is far too erratic to win it. Whereas McIlroy (or top players) rarely waver one shot either side of par, Clarke litters his round with eagles, birdies, pars, bogeys and double bogeys. I still think he'll card a 76+.

I cant see Clarke being near the top, like O'Neill says he is far too erratic! Would love to see Ricky Fowler step up, nothing to do with the fact i've 2.50 e/w on him at 100/1  :)

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 11:17:17 PM
I think his scoring is far too erratic to win it. Whereas McIlroy (or top players) rarely waver one shot either side of par. Clarke litters his round with eagles, birdies, pars, bogeys and double bogeys. I still think he'll card a 76+.

James was saying today that McIlroy has noticeable matured following his Masters experience in that even when he is in trouble he'll pitch out sideways and take his medicine, losing 1 shot max. Whereas previously he would have tried a "Hail Mary" and either went close to the pin or hit it further into trouble and dropped 2 or 3.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 11:17:17 PM
I think his scoring is far too erratic to win it. Whereas McIlroy (or top players) rarely waver one shot either side of par. Clarke litters his round with eagles, birdies, pars, bogeys and double bogeys. I still think he'll card a 76+.

James was saying today that McIlroy has noticeable matured following his Masters experience in that even when he is in trouble he'll pitch out sideways and take his medicine, losing 1 shot max. Whereas previously he would have tried a "Hail Mary" and either went close to the pin or hit it further into trouble and dropped 2 or 3.

He went for the hail mary on the 18th today, great bunker shot to the rescue, lucky escape!

O'Neill ur prob right a 76 is likely to happen over the next 2 days.  If he were to get off to a bad start tomorrow with a couple of bogeys he will prob end up well down the field.

He doesnt have the mindset of a Donald, Kaymer or the other top players who can leave a bad hole behind him.  He is a lot like Monty in that regard in that he lets a bad shot get to him very easily and it takes 4 or 5 holes for him to get over it.  Very often a bogey is followed up by another couple or a double.  IMO that is why he never became a "major" player.

Rickie has great potential and is very charasmatic but is getting the reputation as a bit of a choker even at his early age.  He has had several winning positions and has failed to come through with any of them.  Hopefully like Duval once was and to a lessor extend Harrington and Rory, once he gets one the rest will flow.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 11:17:17 PM
I think his scoring is far too erratic to win it. Whereas McIlroy (or top players) rarely waver one shot either side of par. Clarke litters his round with eagles, birdies, pars, bogeys and double bogeys. I still think he'll card a 76+.

James was saying today that McIlroy has noticeable matured following his Masters experience in that even when he is in trouble he'll pitch out sideways and take his medicine, losing 1 shot max. Whereas previously he would have tried a "Hail Mary" and either went close to the pin or hit it further into trouble and dropped 2 or 3.

Do you think Rory knows the Hail Mary?

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 11:31:48 PM

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 11:17:17 PM
I think his scoring is far too erratic to win it. Whereas McIlroy (or top players) rarely waver one shot either side of par. Clarke litters his round with eagles, birdies, pars, bogeys and double bogeys. I still think he'll card a 76+.

James was saying today that McIlroy has noticeable matured following his Masters experience in that even when he is in trouble he'll pitch out sideways and take his medicine, losing 1 shot max. Whereas previously he would have tried a "Hail Mary" and either went close to the pin or hit it further into trouble and dropped 2 or 3.

Do you think Rory knows the Hail Mary?

You're getting worse!!!!

Fowler seems a bit like Poulter, more interested in what he is wearing than how he plays.

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 11:31:48 PM

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 11:17:17 PM
I think his scoring is far too erratic to win it. Whereas McIlroy (or top players) rarely waver one shot either side of par. Clarke litters his round with eagles, birdies, pars, bogeys and double bogeys. I still think he'll card a 76+.

James was saying today that McIlroy has noticeable matured following his Masters experience in that even when he is in trouble he'll pitch out sideways and take his medicine, losing 1 shot max. Whereas previously he would have tried a "Hail Mary" and either went close to the pin or hit it further into trouble and dropped 2 or 3.

Do you think Rory knows the Hail Mary?

He calls it the Marry Holly.

Quote from: Minder on July 15, 2011, 11:38:04 PM
Fowler seems a bit like Poulter, more interested in what he is wearing than how he plays.

Poulter is a cnut, if only he was as good as he thinks he is!

Quote from: LostInSpace on July 15, 2011, 11:40:13 PM

Quote from: Minder on July 15, 2011, 11:38:04 PM
Fowler seems a bit like Poulter, more interested in what he is wearing than how he plays.

Poulter is a cnut, if only he was as good as he thinks he is!

+1

Quote from: LostInSpace on July 15, 2011, 11:40:13 PM

Quote from: Minder on July 15, 2011, 11:38:04 PM
Fowler seems a bit like Poulter, more interested in what he is wearing than how he plays.

Poulter is a cnut, if only he was as good as he thinks he is!

Quite a few people have been putting that very sentiment to him on Twitter this evening.

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Quote from: Minder on July 15, 2011, 11:38:04 PM
Fowler seems a bit like Poulter, more interested in what he is wearing than how he plays.

Poulter is a cnut, if only he was as good as he thinks he is!

+1

If only we were all as good as we think we are.

Jebus I might even be able to hit the driver.

Every sport needs lads like Poulter. If everyone was humble it'd be feckin cat.

Quote from: muppet on July 15, 2011, 11:42:49 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 15, 2011, 11:41:43 PM

Quote from: LostInSpace on July 15, 2011, 11:40:13 PM

Quote from: Minder on July 15, 2011, 11:38:04 PM
Fowler seems a bit like Poulter, more interested in what he is wearing than how he plays.

Poulter is a cnut, if only he was as good as he thinks he is!

+1

If only we were all as good as we think we are.

Jebus I might even be able to hit the driver.

When it comes to Golf I know I'm shite I just love getting out with the aul lad for a few hours on the golf course a few times a month.

Poulter comes across as a real w**k stain.

Poulter might be alright but his Twitter profile does him no favours as he seems to spend more time pimping his wares than hitting balls. He could be practicing flat out and using new media as an easy means of advertising his merchandise but he just looks like a lazy cnut.

Somebody summed him up perfectly earlier when they compared him to that bentner fella at arsenal.....

2 arrogant self indulgent cnuts that have a lot less talent than they think they have.  Might join his twitter a/c just to see the abuse he is getting

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
Poulter might be alright but his Twitter profile does him no favours as he seems to spend more time pimping his wares than hitting balls. He could be practicing flat out and using new media as an easy means of advertising his merchandise but he just looks like a lazy cnut.

He got up to 4 or 5 in the world, won a couple of World Match Plays and the like and at the same time comes across as less manically professional as the likes of Rose. He's a love to hate kinda guy and I like that. He's golf's Eubank.

Quote from: ONeill on July 16, 2011, 12:00:04 AM

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
Poulter might be alright but his Twitter profile does him no favours as he seems to spend more time pimping his wares than hitting balls. He could be practicing flat out and using new media as an easy means of advertising his merchandise but he just looks like a lazy cnut.

He got up to 4 or 5 in the world, won a couple of World Match Plays and the like and at the same time comes across as less manically professional as the likes of Rose. He's a love to hate kinda guy and I like that. He's golf's Eubank.

Rose is golf's Henman. As these young new prospects come into public view are sponsors not more likely to drop the likes of Poulter if they're not performing?

Maybe you're right, but there's something irreverent about Poulter I like. I remember he wore a soccer jersey during some golfing event and received stern looks from the golfing hierarchy. Golf can be a stuffy, stiff upper lip sport and sometimes it's good to see someone act the eejit. He's a mouth OK and without the elite talent of Woods, Best, Ali, Mulligan but he sort of brings golf to the level it hates to be at.

Never rated Poulter that highly, good matchplay player il give him that but he has failed to win a strokeplay event in the states having been there a few years and hasnt contended in the majors other than when he finished 2nd in the open a few years back coming from well down the field on the last day.

IMO he doesnt have the talent as some of the other english players such as Westwood, Donald, Rose who won to big tour events last year in the states, and even Casey who continuosly flatters to deceive.

Right fight fans bedtime for me. C'mon Clarke #puddin((c) O'Neill) or Sergio.

The Open - BBC apologise for commentator's NI gaffe

Mark James has come in for ridicule on Twitter after an insensitive quip about Northern Ireland's troubles during The Open at Sandwiich
   
The BBC were forced to apologise after he suggested that, given the country's golfing purple patch, "maybe they [the Northern Irish] will stop fighting each other".

James made the gaffe while speaking to co-commentator Andrew Cotter after watching Northern Irish veteran golfer Darren Clarke, who sparkled in a second-round 68, hole out on the 18th to assume the clubhouse lead early on day two.

With Graeme McDowell and Rory McIlroy both having won Majors in the last year, Cotter suggested that should a third Northern Irishman triumph at Royal St George's, the country might have to retire from golf on a high - at which point James made his poorly-judged remark.

The comments are particularly ill-timed given the troubles in the country this week as the marching season gets underway.

Twenty-six people were arrested during rioting in south Belfast and Londonderry after Orange Order parades on Tuesday, as tensions in the country mount.

BBC presenter Hazel Irvine, fronting coverage of The Open, apologised on air shortly afterwards.

But Twitter was awash with angry comments directed at James, many mocking his understanding of the political situation.

"If Mark James is right," clare1608 speculated, "Will the US withdraw from the Middle East if Phil Mickelson wins?"

 To be honest I find james guilty of good wit and oneill above guilty of lazy generalisations

Quote from: ONeill on July 16, 2011, 12:10:26 AM
Maybe you're right, but there's something irreverent about Poulter I like. I remember he wore a soccer jersey during some golfing event and received stern looks from the golfing hierarchy. Golf can be a stuffy, stiff upper lip sport and sometimes it's good to see someone act the eejit. He's a mouth OK and without the elite talent of Woods, Best, Ali, Mulligan but he sort of brings golf to the level it hates to be at.

Is thats Mulligan the Tyrone player you are refering to? Please tell me its some other world class sport star called Mulligan?

Quote from: LostInSpace on July 15, 2011, 11:27:08 PM

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2011, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 11:17:17 PM
I think his scoring is far too erratic to win it. Whereas McIlroy (or top players) rarely waver one shot either side of par. Clarke litters his round with eagles, birdies, pars, bogeys and double bogeys. I still think he'll card a 76+.

James was saying today that McIlroy has noticeable matured following his Masters experience in that even when he is in trouble he'll pitch out sideways and take his medicine, losing 1 shot max. Whereas previously he would have tried a "Hail Mary" and either went close to the pin or hit it further into trouble and dropped 2 or 3.

He went for the hail mary on the 18th today, great bunker shot to the rescue, lucky escape!

Just home from work to see that. Amazing shot, most of us would have needed a JCB to get out of there. Thought bogey would have been great result from there.

Don't think luck had anything to do with it though. Doc on BBC showed him practicing from similiar size bunker at his house. Would be better if he hadn't went into it in the 1st place though.

what time is mcilroy and clarke out today at?

Quote from: The Worker on July 16, 2011, 08:52:31 AM
what time is mcilroy and clarke out today at?

http://www.opengolf.com/en/TeeTimes/TeeTimes.aspx

Tam Watson's hole in one - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/14166439.stm

Anyone got a good stream for those currently outside UK?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/9539899.stm

Ricky Fowler looks like he's heading to a rave in Craigavon.

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 16, 2011, 02:49:21 PM
Ricky Fowler looks like he's heading to a rave in Craigavon.

why craigavon  ???

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Quote from: omagh_gael on July 16, 2011, 02:49:21 PM
Ricky Fowler looks like he's heading to a rave in Craigavon.

why craigavon  ???

Not exactly sure...just a hunch ;)

Clarke having a rip roaring start, birdied first and has a tiddler for birdie on the second.

Ah crap I put the scud on him, misses a sitter!

Throughout his career Clarke has been infamous for missing those short putts, there seems to be one every round! Hope they don't come back to haunt him. Would love to see the big guy win it.

Though I don't think there would be as much debate regarding his religious/political/national belief's as there was after Rory's win  :D

Quote from: attheraces on July 16, 2011, 03:56:15 PM
Throughout his career Clarke has been infamous for missing those short putts, there seems to be one every round! Hope they don't come back to haunt him. Would love to see the big guy win it.

Though I don't think there would be as much debate regarding his religious/political/national belief's as there was after Rory's win  :D

I think it's a debate we have to have though.

Clarke should be 7 or 8 under right now, needs to hit the putt putt course.

Jimenez Stretching    ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNoDNg7pY8Y

Quote from: Minder on July 16, 2011, 04:03:30 PM

Quote from: attheraces on July 16, 2011, 03:56:15 PM
Throughout his career Clarke has been infamous for missing those short putts, there seems to be one every round! Hope they don't come back to haunt him. Would love to see the big guy win it.

Though I don't think there would be as much debate regarding his religious/political/national belief's as there was after Rory's win  :D

I think it's a debate we have to have though.

Puff piece on Mc Ilroy on ESPN here with an interview with Mickey Mc Donald and some scenic pictures of Holywood (however they managed that). As only the americans can do though, now it looks from the coverage that Fowler is playing on his own.

Liked this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/jul/16/the-open-2011-darren-clark

Did anyone see Rorys putter cover today, had a union jack on it!!!!! Total castle catholic!

Hope Darren Clarke can go ahead and win today-he aint got nerves looks like hes playing for fun-worth at least another two shots-keep smiling-IT WORKS!! 

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 17, 2011, 02:44:13 AM
Did anyone see Rorys putter cover today, had a union jack on it!!!!! Total castle catholic!

Might it not just be part of a munfacturer's badge? I have a GAA umbrella bought in Dublin, made in GB with union jack on label.

Not that it really matters, but - you had no choice what was on your umbrella. Do you think a sponsor just hands McIlroy a putter cover and said "you are using this" ?

He had a Stars and Stripes putter cover at the US Open.

So have we agreed on whether we're claiming Clarke yet or not? Do we wait and see if he wins first? Any British or pro-oppression emblems on his kit I should know about?

It will have been some year for OWC golf if Clarke wins.

Quote from: Minder on July 17, 2011, 12:13:21 PM
It will have been some year for OWC golf if Clarke wins.

Stephen Watson will need a lot of wipes and kitchen roll !!

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 17, 2011, 11:51:43 AM
He had a Stars and Stripes putter cover at the US Open.

So have we agreed on whether we're claiming Clarke yet or not? Do we wait and see if he wins first? Any British or pro-oppression emblems on his kit I should know about?

I think I just saw a shamrock on his shirt sleeve

Ricky Fowler an Armagh fan i see !!

a very irish look with his partner Bjorn wearing green.

Is there anything better than reclining on the couch with 5 hours of Golf ahead to watch.!

Woman gone out for the day - check
Large bottle of coke - check
Ex Large bar of Galaxy chocolate - check
6 pack of King Crisps - check
Live golf for 5 hours - check

Life is good

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 01:59:48 PM
Is there anything better than reclining on the couch with 5 hours of Golf ahead to watch.!

Woman gone out for the day - check
Large bottle of coke - check
Ex Large bar of Galaxy chocolate - check
6 pack of King Crisps - check
Live golf for 5 hours - check

Life is good

how about 2 provincial finals ?

Golf all the way for me Hoof.

You have that one well thought out Laoislad.

Sergio on the rampage was looking good for getting me some of my money back but he seems to have blown up a bit.  If he can get back to Even he might just sneak into the top 7.

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
Golf all the way for me Hoof.

cant take you seriously anymore on a GAA board, you're a fake !

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Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
Golf all the way for me Hoof.

cant take you seriously anymore on a GAA board, you're a fake !

I'm also on a golf forum,and a soccer forum and a electricians forum so being on a gaa forum doesn't mean you can't like other stuff Hoof!
If Laois were playing it be different but we ain't so it's Golf for me today.

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Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 17, 2011, 02:06:08 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
Golf all the way for me Hoof.

cant take you seriously anymore on a GAA board, you're a fake !

I'm also on a golf forum,and a soccer forum and a electricians forum so being on a gaa forum doesn't mean you can't like other stuff Hoof!
If Laois were playing it be different but we ain't so it's Golf for me today.

only winding, a Derry/D Clarke double would keep me happy 5.30/6.00 this evening

Great par save on first for Clarke..

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 02:24:03 PM
Great par save on first for Clarke..

Nice shot on 2. Hope he nails it, missed a few short ones yesterday. Big Phil is making a move.

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2011, 09:11:26 PM
given the weekend weather forecast, and the fact there is only 7 shots between 1st and last, ANYONE can still win this - it's going to be a lottery.

if i had to have a gamble, i will go Schwartzel - With Kaymer next favourite. Mickelson my outsider.

making a move alright, still rooting for big Clarke though, hope he has the balls for it cause he has the game

great save there again ! 3 ahead, his to lose now

Another great par save from Clarke,Dustin bogeys, Clarke now has a 3 shot lead

Edit. BBC saying 2 shot lead I was sure it was 3

Edit. BBC finally caught up. 3 shot lead

The CBS American commentary team continually refer to Clarke as an Ulsterman.

Mickelson on the tear.

Anyone else secretly hoping for Michelson to fade away and let Darren win it easy? I've got this feeling that if it comes to last few holes and it's still close then Darren will lose his nerve. Hope he proves me wrong though.

Mickleson is tied for the lead. Now Clarke has to go and win it.

How many holes is Mickelson ahead of Clarke?

Tyrone jersey kickin around in the background there.

Kerry jersey spotted chasing the breakaway today at the Tour de France.

QuoteThe CBS American commentary team continually refer to Clarke as an Ulsterman.

Isn't he one?

Terrible miss from Phil Mick there,and Clarke just got blessed on the 9th.
Clarke 2 ahead with 9 to go

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Terrible miss from Phil Mick there,and Clarke just got blessed on the 9th.
Clarke 2 ahead with 9 to go

It all begins now.

Quote from: muppet on July 17, 2011, 04:11:14 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Terrible miss from Phil Mick there,and Clarke just got blessed on the 9th.
Clarke 2 ahead with 9 to go

It all begins now.

#itsgotime

How did that putt from Clarke stay out?

Quote from: Capt Pat on July 17, 2011, 04:26:34 PM
How did that putt from Clarke stay out?

Mon Dorn!

Clarke saves par Phil Mick Bogeys...3 ahead

Two big putts. Darren holes, Phil misses.

3 ahead of Phil and Dusty.

Clarke  3/10
Mickelson 4/1

I reckon if Clarke can finish at -6 or better, that'll be enough. A string of boring pars please Darren.

Quote from: Mac Eoghain on July 17, 2011, 04:47:04 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 04:39:32 PM
Clarke  3/10
Mickelson 4/1

Dusty might be the one to watch

Good call
Mickelson gone with the bogey?
Down to Johnson and Clarke

Johnson OB - that's a huge break for Clarke now

Quote from: thewobbler on July 17, 2011, 04:49:12 PM
I reckon if Clarke can finish at -6 or better, that'll be enough. A string of boring pars please Darren.

Just like yesterday - 9 pars in last 10 holes

After half a century in the wilderness Dungannon Clarkes look as if they are about to win something  :)

There are two live bets in my paddypower account, 10 e/w on clarke at 80/1 and 10 for Clarke to be placed at 20/1. Unfortunately neither of them are mine

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go on darn, two pars and its all yours. Will be delighted for him, seems as if he is very well liked by his fellow pros and golf fans in general.

fair play darren, didnt see this one coming!

Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
ANother tenner EW on Clarke, taking me over the £1000 barrier placed on him in 15 years without return.

looks like he has paid you back!!

come on, a good solid drive please

Well done big D, never in doubt, cool as u like

A great moment in Irish sport. Played all four rounds with a smile on his face. Brilliant!

sports personality of the year?

That's brilliant fair play to him.
Last time I was as nervous for someone to win was Harrington in 2007/2008

TigerWoods Tiger Woods
Very happy for Darren Clarke, well deserved win.
43 seconds ago

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oh do f**k off you insecure p***k.

Well done Darren Clarke, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Obviously a very popular winner amongst his peers.

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Not that it should matter but..

(http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/watermarked-b/Library/SF295/223630.jpg)

delighted for him, great tribute to Seve as well

Greatest ever performance by tyroneman on Ulster final day.

Some year for Chubby Chandlers stable, Shwartzel, McIlroy and now Clarke.

Saw this on Twitter

Last 17 golf major winners:
Ireland 6
USA 5
S Africa 3
Rest of World 3

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Not that it should matter but..

(http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/watermarked-b/Library/SF295/223630.jpg)

Rem at the time Darren said i will hold the orange bit

Quote from: ludermor on July 17, 2011, 05:50:48 PM

Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
ANother tenner EW on Clarke, taking me over the £1000 barrier placed on him in 15 years without return.

looks like he has paid you back!!

Anyone want a drink?

Quote from: ONeill on July 17, 2011, 06:55:24 PM

Quote from: ludermor on July 17, 2011, 05:50:48 PM

Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
ANother tenner EW on Clarke, taking me over the £1000 barrier placed on him in 15 years without return.

looks like he has paid you back!!

Anyone want a drink?

What odds did you get ?

150-1 but chickened out at last minute and did £5 EW instead.

Dustin Johnson fairly leads you down the garden path on the last day of a major.

Quote from: ONeill on July 17, 2011, 07:00:40 PM
150-1 but chickened out at last minute and did £5 EW instead.

Fir play O'Neill, you always back him and he paid you back today! You deserve it for your, ahem, unflinching  :o support!

Delighted for Clarke, seems like a guy you'd really like to go for a pint with. Remember first seeing him just before he turned pro and his talent was never in question. He deserved to be a major winner but you have to do it and now he has.

Well done Darren Clarke. Seems like an all-round good guy.

Well done our boy ;)

Got him at 50 to 1 e\w on Thursday evening. Great result for him and long overdue.

delighted for Darren Clarke played brilliantly comes across as a real nice guy.

must be running out of asterxis at this stage  ;)

McIlroy is no fan of the Open the way he was talking afterwards.

Absolutely delighted for Clarke. You can tell he is a genuine lad who seems to be well liked by everyone involved in golf be it players, commentators or officials. He doesn't pretend to be something he's not and it's great to see the good guy win sometimes. Although I knew I was getting a bit of dough if he won, I was more nervous for Darren himself.

It took 20 years for him to put together 4 good rounds in a major but it only took that one weekend when it all clicked. Wouldn't be surprised if he eases off even more now in terms of playing events. 

Quote from: ONeill on July 17, 2011, 10:10:10 PM
Absolutely delighted for Clarke. You can tell he is a genuine lad who seems to be well liked by everyone involved in golf be it players, commentators or officials. He doesn't pretend to be something he's not and it's great to see the good guy win sometimes. Although I knew I was getting a bit of dough if he won, I was more nervous for Darren himself.

It took 20 years for him to put together 4 good rounds in a major but it only took that one weekend when it all clicked. Wouldn't be surprised if he eases off even more now in terms of playing events.

f**k up and tell us how much you won.


I concur with everything you say. Have never heard a bad word said about him. Brother of a girl in work knows him and his brother and apparently he is everything you expect him to be. The reaction of ordinary fans and fellow golfers to his win speaks volumes.

Quote from: bcarrier on July 17, 2011, 06:26:31 PM
Greatest ever performance by tyroneman on Ulster final day.

excellent post  ;D  ;D  ;D

I would say ONeill got about £940

Quote from: dillinger on July 17, 2011, 06:43:17 PM

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Quote from: Trout on July 17, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
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Not that it should matter but..

(http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/watermarked-b/Library/SF295/223630.jpg)

Rem at the time Darren said i will hold the orange bit

He said can I have a vodka and orange pet.

Good photo

http://yfrog.com/kj4nnvjj

Quote from: Minder on July 17, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
Good photo

http://yfrog.com/kj4nnvjj

GMac unsuccessfully tried to tweet that pic. One for DCs games room.

Quote from: laoislad on July 17, 2011, 06:41:54 PM
Saw this on Twitter

Last 17 golf major winners:
Ireland 6
USA 5
S Africa 3
Rest of World 3

more importantly LL,

It's now OWC 4  ROI 3 ;)

It s now 11.47pm

Bet Clarke is rightly shuck at this stage

"Show me the way to go home........................ Hic "

Prodelics 1
Cathestants 1
(Genuinely nice guy) Protestants 1
Cath..eh...eh...lics 3

Brilliant to see big Darren win this. Thought his chance had gone years ago to be honest.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy and as someone has said seems to be genuinely liked by his peers.Should be some party tonight.

Also fair play to Phil Mickelson who was gracious in defeat. Used to think he was obnoxious years ago but he is a gentleman in victory and defeat.

Well done O'Neill, great lift for you!

What did you all make of McIlroy's interview after?  he sounded like a spoilt child I thought, basically cried about the conditions and the course 'I don't like playing in the cold and wet, it's not fair etc etc' maybe I am being harsh but I thought he could have had a little more grace.  Inexperience perhaps.

Fair play to Clarke. Won it comfortably in the end.

"I'm not a fan of golf tournaments that the outcome is predicted by so much by the weather, it's not my sort of golf" Rory McIlroy gracious in defeat.

Class from Clarke...crass from McIlroy

Quote from: Minder on July 17, 2011, 10:21:16 PM
I would say ONeill got about £940

By my frazzled brain that bet pays £947.50, so O'Neill is £937.50 up?

Quote from: Mac Eoghain on July 17, 2011, 06:53:27 PM
Is Alison Campbell not from Strabane - sounds more like a millie?

Seems like a bit of a manufactured accent.  A bit rough looking yesterday too.

Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 18, 2011, 09:17:53 AM
Well done O'Neill, great lift for you!

What did you all make of McIlroy's interview after?  he sounded like a spoilt child I thought, basically cried about the conditions and the course 'I don't like playing in the cold and wet, it's not fair etc etc' maybe I am being harsh but I thought he could have had a little more grace.  Inexperience perhaps.

Agreed on rory,  sullen would have been the word I put on it.

Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 18, 2011, 10:00:04 AM

Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 18, 2011, 09:17:53 AM
Well done O'Neill, great lift for you!

What did you all make of McIlroy's interview after?  he sounded like a spoilt child I thought, basically cried about the conditions and the course 'I don't like playing in the cold and wet, it's not fair etc etc' maybe I am being harsh but I thought he could have had a little more grace.  Inexperience perhaps.

Agreed on rory,  sullen would have been the word I put on it.

in fairness to Rory the interviewer asked what apects of his game would he need to work on to win the open for fcuk sake the lad is just after winning a major a couple of weeks ago so his game ain't too bad.

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 09:27:27 AM
"I'm not a fan of golf tournaments that the outcome is predicted by so much by the weather, it's not my sort of golf" Rory McIlroy gracious in defeat.

Did you see the full interview or you going to cherry pick the piece to back up your point? Did you read any of his tweets about Clarke? You don't mention the fact Garcia said the same when he was interviewed.

Begrudging C**T's like you seriously need to get a life and quit over analysing every little thing he says ::) Again someone on this board tries to descend another golf thread into some agenda against McIlroy. The congressional thread was a disgrace at times, especially as the posters are supposed to be sports fans round here. You and some other the other posters on here are a real credit to the GAA  ::)

Great way to while away an afternoon . Have to say that some of the BBC commentators don't seem to like each other. That guy Alliss has a somewhat barbed manner about him, threw in a imo snide dig at nurses during the commentary. Not a fan.

Got a bit of value on my small flutter on Johnson to win, which came to naught in the end.

Impressed with Fowler, especially liked when they said he learned the game "on a driving range." Still not sure whether this was actually a compliment or not from them.

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 09:27:27 AM
"I'm not a fan of golf tournaments that the outcome is predicted by so much by the weather, it's not my sort of golf" Rory McIlroy gracious in defeat.

Indeed, cos weather had absolutely no bearing in making the greens at Congessional dartboard like, why, typical US Open greens weren't they Roars?

Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 18, 2011, 09:17:53 AM
Well done O'Neill, great lift for you!

What did you all make of McIlroy's interview after?  he sounded like a spoilt child I thought, basically cried about the conditions and the course 'I don't like playing in the cold and wet, it's not fair etc etc' maybe I am being harsh but I thought he could have had a little more grace.  Inexperience perhaps.

Yeah that's exactly how he sounded, like a spoilt little brat. He said he isn't going to change the way he plays for one tournament. Every other player has tried to adapt their game when playing links golf I would have thought. He doesent play the TPC at Sawgrass because he reckons the course doesn't suit his game. Will he do the same with the Open?

Quote from: thebigfella on July 18, 2011, 10:06:28 AMDid you see the full interview or you going to cherry pick the piece to back up your point? Did you read any of his tweets about Clarke? You don't mention the fact Garcia said the same when he was interviewed.

Begrudging C**T's like you seriously need to get a life and quit over analysing every little thing he says ::) Again someone on this board tries to descend another golf thread into some agenda against McIlroy. The congressional thread was a disgrace at times, especially as the posters are supposed to be sports fans round here. You and some other the other posters on here are a real credit to the GAA  ::)

I don't think any posters are representing the GAA, maybe some do, but when posting on here using an alias, I don't think that's the case.  I'm sure that Rory is big mates with Clarke, they've both said as much and I'm sure he was genuinely delighted for him, that doesn't change the fact that his comments were a bit stupid.  And whilst he generally conducts himself well and especially so after Augusta, he has a bit of a history of stupid comments.

Quote from: thebigfella on July 18, 2011, 10:06:28 AM

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 09:27:27 AM
"I'm not a fan of golf tournaments that the outcome is predicted by so much by the weather, it's not my sort of golf" Rory McIlroy gracious in defeat.

Did you see the full interview or you going to cherry pick the piece to back up your point? Did you read any of his tweets about Clarke? You don't mention the fact Garcia said the same when he was interviewed.

Begrudging C**T's like you seriously need to get a life and quit over analysing every little thing he says ::) Again someone on this board tries to descend another golf thread into some agenda against McIlroy. The congressional thread was a disgrace at times, especially as the posters are supposed to be sports fans round here. You and some other the other posters on here are a real credit to the GAA  ::)

That's from the Irish News, I don't like him and you calling me all the c**ts of the day ain't going to change that. Compare him to Clarke, Harrington and G Mac, spolilt, crass, sullen the words of other posters sum him up really. The board is all about opinions and some such as yourself result to insult when people don't hold the same views as you...says it all really.

Quote from: thebigfella on July 18, 2011, 10:06:28 AM

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 09:27:27 AM
"I'm not a fan of golf tournaments that the outcome is predicted by so much by the weather, it's not my sort of golf" Rory McIlroy gracious in defeat.

Did you see the full interview or you going to cherry pick the piece to back up your point? Did you read any of his tweets about Clarke? You don't mention the fact Garcia said the same when he was interviewed.

Begrudging C**T's like you seriously need to get a life and quit over analysing every little thing he says ::) Again someone on this board tries to descend another golf thread into some agenda against McIlroy. The congressional thread was a disgrace at times, especially as the posters are supposed to be sports fans round here. You and some other the other posters on here are a real credit to the GAA  ::)

Jesus BigFella you got out of the wrong side of the bed today! I am a big Rory fan, I have watched countless interviews with Rory and he has come across very well fielding the difficult questions, Yesterday he was pissed off and despite the BBC interviewer asking a stupid question, Rory could have swerved it,  "I grew up playing links golf, just couldn't get the feel for the greens," blah blah blah  instead he appeared to me sullen. Its the first time i would have been critical of him on his TV interviews.

Quote from: thebigfella on July 18, 2011, 10:06:28 AM

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 09:27:27 AM
"I'm not a fan of golf tournaments that the outcome is predicted by so much by the weather, it's not my sort of golf" Rory McIlroy gracious in defeat.

Did you see the full interview or you going to cherry pick the piece to back up your point? Did you read any of his tweets about Clarke? You don't mention the fact Garcia said the same when he was interviewed.

Begrudging C**T's like you seriously need to get a life and quit over analysing every little thing he says ::) Again someone on this board tries to descend another golf thread into some agenda against McIlroy. The congressional thread was a disgrace at times, especially as the posters are supposed to be sports fans round here. You and some other the other posters on here are a real credit to the GAA  ::)

Slight over-reaction there bigfella!  This is not an anti-OWC crusade, it is more of a criticism of his attitude towards the conditions, conditions that he faced last year at St Andrews also.  Yesterday's interview was more to do with inexperience I would say, he will get a bit more media savvy as he gets older.

Quote from: Canalman on July 18, 2011, 10:19:36 AM
Great way to while away an afternoon . Have to say that some of the BBC commentators don't seem to like each other. That guy Alliss has a somewhat barbed manner about him, threw in a imo snide dig at nurses during the commentary. Not a fan.

I don't know if it was because of what he said earlier in the week but as the weekend progressed I found myself hating Mark James, he treated Cotter in particularly with contempt/arrogance all weekend.
On a related note, does Ken Brown help out Clarke with some coaching?

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 10:28:02 AM

Quote from: thebigfella on July 18, 2011, 10:06:28 AM

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 18, 2011, 09:27:27 AM
"I'm not a fan of golf tournaments that the outcome is predicted by so much by the weather, it's not my sort of golf" Rory McIlroy gracious in defeat.

Did you see the full interview or you going to cherry pick the piece to back up your point? Did you read any of his tweets about Clarke? You don't mention the fact Garcia said the same when he was interviewed.

Begrudging C**T's like you seriously need to get a life and quit over analysing every little thing he says ::) Again someone on this board tries to descend another golf thread into some agenda against McIlroy. The congressional thread was a disgrace at times, especially as the posters are supposed to be sports fans round here. You and some other the other posters on here are a real credit to the GAA  ::)

That's from the Irish News, I don't like him and you calling me all the c**ts of the day ain't going to change that. Compare him to Clarke, Harrington and G Mac, spolilt, crass, sullen the words of other posters sum him up really. The board is all about opinions and some such as yourself result to insult when people don't hold the same views as you...says it all really.

You have just emphasized my point precisely. "You don't like him", so your post is hardly impartial or balanced.

Rory just called me, he is fairly distraught. 'It's been a tough enough week he said but finding out that applesisapples doesn't like me is the final straw'

Quote from: stephenite on July 18, 2011, 10:58:07 AM
Rory just called me, he is fairly distraught. 'It's been a tough enough week he said but finding out that applesisapples doesn't like me is the final straw'

He doesn't like me either! I'm equally distraught! LOL  :D I'm quite sure none of the people discussed on here give a flying fcuk, but some posters do really need to get a life.

I've read some shite on this board in my day, but the syllable-by-syllable parsing of Rory McIlroy's off the cuff answers to inane questions is right up there. Why are people avidly searching for hints of a slight dip in his likeability quotient? I'd hate to be that lad if this the level of analysis to which his every utterance will be subjected.

Well done Darren. It was strange to be cheering a Tyrone win but it was easier because there was no diving.

Did anyone here see what that Meath c*** Hardy wrote about Clarke? He sort of had a dig at him and Tyrone in general.

Quote from: stephenite on July 18, 2011, 10:58:07 AM
Rory just called me, he is fairly distraught. 'It's been a tough enough week he said but finding out that applesisapples doesn't like me is the final straw'

LOL

Great win for Clarke, and Armagh seniors, pity about Armagh minors but at least they've a second chance. However I'm still depressed.

I played a club singles match on Friday evening (warm and dry) and despite having 34 points on the 17th, sure I lost 2&1. Then I thought I would carry that great form into Saturdays medal (wet and windy) and ended up 7 over my handicap.

Maybe I should have changed my game to suit the weather.

Quote from: ONeill on July 18, 2011, 11:31:39 AM
Did anyone here see what that Meath c*** Hardy wrote about Clarke? He sort of had a dig at him and Tyrone in general.

Heard about it alright !!!

Is he from the county that dived over the line with the ball in the Leinster Final last year and deprived a county of their first Leinster title since God knows?

Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
I've read some shite on this board in my day, but the syllable-by-syllable parsing of Rory McIlroy's off the cuff answers to inane questions is right up there. Why are people avidly searching for hints of a slight dip in his likeability quotient? I'd hate to be that lad if this the level of analysis to which his every utterance will be subjected.

Well done Darren. It was strange to be cheering a Tyrone win but it was easier because there was no diving.

Note how Clarke was able to putt without picking the ball up and throwing it into the hole. I think he really deserved to win for no other reason other than this ability to not cheat.

(http://media.tcm.ie/media/images/j/JoeSheridanGoalMeathvLouthJuly2010SPORTSFILE.jpg)

Oho! That's a good one.

Quote from: Nally Stand on July 18, 2011, 12:10:53 PM

Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
I've read some shite on this board in my day, but the syllable-by-syllable parsing of Rory McIlroy's off the cuff answers to inane questions is right up there. Why are people avidly searching for hints of a slight dip in his likeability quotient? I'd hate to be that lad if this the level of analysis to which his every utterance will be subjected.

Well done Darren. It was strange to be cheering a Tyrone win but it was easier because there was no diving.

Note how Clarke was able to putt without picking the ball up and throwing it into the hole. I think he really deserved to win for no other reason other than this ability to not cheat.

(http://media.tcm.ie/media/images/j/JoeSheridanGoalMeathvLouthJuly2010SPORTSFILE.jpg)

Wasnt Darren Clarke playing that day for Louth?

http://yfrog.com/kh83975165j

Saw a clip on the news - he partied all night and stopped 30mins before the press conference  :D  The man knows how to celebrate, and who could blame him.

Quote from: aontroim on July 18, 2011, 01:13:56 PM
http://yfrog.com/kh83975165j

Saw a clip on the news - he partied all night and stopped 30mins before the press conference  :D  The man knows how to celebrate, and who could blame him.

I see Stephen Nolan was invited to the party.

Delighted for Darren, fair play to him, some character and achievement to keep believing,

I see the rory police are out in force, if you dont like him theyll be after you as your not allowed to not like him, your a begruder or a bold gaa man they say :D

Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
Delighted for Darren, fair play to him, some character and achievement to keep believing,

I see the rory police are out in force, if you dont like him theyll be after you as your not allowed to not like him, your a begruder or a bold gaa man they say :D

I don't give a fcuk, not afraid to say I still don't like him, delighted for Darren though even though he is from Tyrone, but he's the only Tyrone man that'll get a cheer from me this year. If they can't hack the GAA men on this site they should stick to OWC.

I am a big fan of McIlroy but I just thought his reaction was a tad petulant, as I said previously it is possibly his own inexperience, he has made rash comments before (Ryder Cup for example).

Absolutely delighted for Clarke, just goes to show that the over 4o's can still win majors.
He also comes across as a genuinely nice man.

Quote from: Orangemac on July 18, 2011, 12:24:05 AM
Brilliant to see big Darren win this. Thought his chance had gone years ago to be honest.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy and as someone has said seems to be genuinely liked by his peers.Should be some party tonight.

Also fair play to Phil Mickelson who was gracious in defeat. Used to think he was obnoxious years ago but he is a gentleman in victory and defeat.

I would imagine Clarke and Mickelson are close enough as Mickelson's wife had cancer.
I noticed Clarke even sought Mickelson's wife out afterwards to give her a hug.

Quote from: Canalman on July 18, 2011, 10:19:36 AM
Great way to while away an afternoon . Have to say that some of the BBC commentators don't seem to like each other. That guy Alliss has a somewhat barbed manner about him, threw in a imo snide dig at nurses during the commentary. Not a fan.

Alliss is a pain the hole to listen to,he is forever banging on about the good 'ol days and how everyone and everything was better back then,I really can't stomach listening to him at all.

Dungannon locals celebrate a great win by Darren Clarke

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/285532_10150247688436188_710866187_7621744_5358096_n.jpg)

Quote from: laoislad on July 18, 2011, 02:51:58 PM

Quote from: Canalman on July 18, 2011, 10:19:36 AM
Great way to while away an afternoon . Have to say that some of the BBC commentators don't seem to like each other. That guy Alliss has a somewhat barbed manner about him, threw in a imo snide dig at nurses during the commentary. Not a fan.

Alliss is a pain the hole to listen to,he is forever banging on about the good 'ol days and how everyone and everything was better back then,I really can't stomach listening to him at all.

Reminds me of someone else.

(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/patspillane1.jpg)

Quote from: Hereiam on July 18, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
Dungannon locals celebrate a great win by Darren Clarke

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/285532_10150247688436188_710866187_7621744_5358096_n.jpg)

:D

Clarke indulged in one of my pet hates during the last round............. nonchalantly flicking away his used cigarettes. Not a dickey bird said about it.

Very bad manners at best of times, but I would have thought a complete no no on the golf course.

Apart from that minor gripe always nice to see a sportsman win with a smile on his face.

Must be great to be a middle class prod golf fan in the last few months.

Quote from: Trout on July 18, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
Must be great to be a middle class prod golf fan in the last few months.

it is.

Quote from: Trout on July 18, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
Must be great to be a middle class prod golf fan in the last few months.

Great boost for Irish golf.

Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 18, 2011, 06:54:10 PM

Quote from: Trout on July 18, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
Must be great to be a middle class prod golf fan in the last few months.

Great boost for northern/Northern Irish golf.

At least 4 major champions at the Irish Open in 2 wks with maybe the 2 SA champions in chubbys stable joining them.  Could be the best field the Irish Open has had in years.

What do people make of the possibility of the Irish Open going to Portrush in the future as being reported by the BBC this evening.  In fairness if it happened and they could get a date a wk or 2 before the Open they would get some field with a lot of the top players coming over for preparation for the Open.

At the same time some may say that the golf authorities in the north are trying to dip their feet in 2 possible markets.  Do they see portrush being both irish and british in that they want both the irish open and british open to be played there.  Not one for bringing political things into a golf forum but it does seem a bit strange to me.

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 18, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
At least 4 major champions at the Irish Open in 2 wks with maybe the 2 SA champions in chubbys stable joining them.  Could be the best field the Irish Open has had in years.

What do people make of the possibility of the Irish Open going to Portrush in the future as being reported by the BBC this evening.  In fairness if it happened and they could get a date a wk or 2 before the Open they would get some field with a lot of the top players coming over for preparation for the Open.

At the same time some may say that the golf authorities in the north are trying to dip their feet in 2 possible markets.  Do they see portrush being both irish and british in that they want both the irish open and british open to be played there.  Not one for bringing political things into a golf forum but it does seem a bit strange to me.

They would need dispensation from the GUI wouldn't they? Are the R&A prepared to take the show on the road outside their jurisdiction?

I wouldnt have thought Portrush has the infrastructure to hold a British Open but that doesent seem to stop fellas like Stephen Watson almost demanding it now because of the recent success of our local British golfers.

The R&A said they are going to look into the possibilty and the seniors open was played there a few years ago as well as the open it self all be it 50 years ago.

Is the GUI an all ireland association?

McIlroy and the woman have split up.

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 18, 2011, 07:56:32 PM


Is the GUI an all ireland association?

Yes.

What? They organise golf in a 32-county Ireland? Surely that's provocative to the unionist community! Is that why the golf clubs of the six counties are a cold house for protestants?

Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on July 18, 2011, 07:48:07 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on July 18, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
At least 4 major champions at the Irish Open in 2 wks with maybe the 2 SA champions in chubbys stable joining them.  Could be the best field the Irish Open has had in years.

What do people make of the possibility of the Irish Open going to Portrush in the future as being reported by the BBC this evening.  In fairness if it happened and they could get a date a wk or 2 before the Open they would get some field with a lot of the top players coming over for preparation for the Open.

At the same time some may say that the golf authorities in the north are trying to dip their feet in 2 possible markets.  Do they see portrush being both irish and british in that they want both the irish open and british open to be played there.  Not one for bringing political things into a golf forum but it does seem a bit strange to me.

They would need dispensation from the GUI wouldn't they? Are the R&A prepared to take the show on the road outside their jurisdiction?

Not sure why they would need dispensation from the GUI - The GUI covers 2 jurisdictions, one of which is in the UK - Therefore, presumably if the R&A deem Royal Portrush to be a viable option there should not be an issue

Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
What? They organise golf in a 32-county Ireland? Surely that's provocative to the unionist community! Is that why the golf clubs of the six counties are a cold house for protestants?

Hell yeah. No sick county banners in golf clubs here. You'll only ever see the proper ulster emblem.

Quote from: Orior on July 18, 2011, 09:00:42 PM

Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
What? They organise golf in a 32-county Ireland? Surely that's provocative to the unionist community! Is that why the golf clubs of the six counties are a cold house for protestants?

Hell yeah. No sick county banners in golf clubs here. You'll only ever see the proper ulster emblem.

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6096/nazil.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/nazil.jpg/)

Yeap, thats the one.

Can someone tell me is big Clarke a Prod or a Cafflic? Not that I care, just curious.

Oh sorry wrong golfer

Quote from: laoislad on July 18, 2011, 09:05:52 PM

Quote from: Orior on July 18, 2011, 09:00:42 PM

Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
What? They organise golf in a 32-county Ireland? Surely that's provocative to the unionist community! Is that why the golf clubs of the six counties are a cold house for protestants?

Hell yeah. No sick county banners in golf clubs here. You'll only ever see the proper ulster emblem.

Don't believe everything that auld hag from the Ardoyne says

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6096/nazil.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/nazil.jpg/)

Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
I've read some shite on this board in my day, but the syllable-by-syllable parsing of Rory McIlroy's off the cuff answers to inane questions is right up there. Why are people avidly searching for hints of a slight dip in his likeability quotient? I'd hate to be that lad if this the level of analysis to which his every utterance will be subjected.

Well done Darren. It was strange to be cheering a Tyrone win but it was easier because there was no diving.

Red C poll out tomorrow:

Enda Kenny..... 101% (down 7% all in Roscommon)
Rory McIlroy.... -3% (down 103%)
Darren Clarke... 100% (not rated before yesterday)
Hardy................50% (down 25% in Tyrone but up 25% elsewhere for Meath losing)
O'Neill.............. up £1,000

Quote from: tyssam5 on July 18, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
Can someone tell me is big Clarke a Prod or a Cafflic? Not that I care, just curious.

Oh sorry wrong golfer

Apparently pastafarian.

Quote from: Minder on July 18, 2011, 08:07:41 PM
McIlroy and the woman have split up.

My missus said her bake was on the screen a bit too often during that documentary about Rory on the other night. Maybe Rory watched it back and decided that too.

Quote from: Take Your Points on July 18, 2011, 09:36:17 PM
Portrush can handle 150k for the motor bike competition each year.

Good point

On the Golf Channel last night the U.S commentators were talking about the possibility of the Open going to Portrush. One of the big shots from the R&A said it would be very possible in the next 10 years.

I can't see it but we are good at begging so you never know.

Quote from: FL/MAYO on July 18, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
On the Golf Channel last night the U.S commentators were talking about the possibility of the Open going to Portrush. One of the big shots from the R&A said it would be very possible in the next 10 years.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=19075.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=19075.0)

Quote from: Minder on July 18, 2011, 11:32:09 PM
I can't see it but we are good at begging so you never know.

If the loyalists on the north coast start rioting they might get a grant for it.

http://www.balls.ie/2011/07/18/rory-mcilroy-and-caroline-wozniaki-busted/ (http://www.balls.ie/2011/07/18/rory-mcilroy-and-caroline-wozniaki-busted/)
(http://woondu.com/images/sport/caroline-wozniacki-no.-wta-tennis/caroline-wozniacki-photos13.jpg)

Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
The thing about Darren is that there'll be a 76 carded at some stage.

he can post 76 from here til next year, and he'll still have the 2M cheque from Dunlop golf...

Quote from: Minder on July 18, 2011, 07:55:31 PM
I wouldnt have thought Portrush has the infrastructure to hold a British Open but that doesent seem to stop fellas like Stephen Watson almost demanding it now because of the recent success of our local British golfers.

Everybody gives poor aul Sidey a hard time, but Watson is the most annoying reporter on BBC.

Quote from: Applesisapples on July 19, 2011, 08:59:30 AM

Quote from: Minder on July 18, 2011, 07:55:31 PM
I wouldnt have thought Portrush has the infrastructure to hold a British Open but that doesent seem to stop fellas like Stephen Watson almost demanding it now because of the recent success of our local British golfers.

Everybody gives poor aul Sidey a hard time, but Watson is the most annoying reporter on BBC.

Not just the BBC he's even worse than Marty, but not Spillane though....Although he's hardly a reporter, more of an expert analyst. :D

Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.  She was saying that this would be a good way to show the R&A that Portrush can handle a big golf event.  I'm not 100% sure but I think the earliest the Open could come to Portrush would be 2016??

Quote from: Minder on July 18, 2011, 08:07:41 PM
McIlroy and the woman have split up.

Births, deaths and marriages - Minder our very own Registrar!

Quote from: AQMP on July 19, 2011, 09:24:45 AM
Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.  She was saying that this would be a good way to show the R&A that Portrush can handle a big golf event.  I'm not 100% sure but I think the earliest the Open could come to Portrush would be 2016??

Thats spin for ye and trying to jump on band wagon. The R&A said yesterday that they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 10:06:04 AM

Quote from: AQMP on July 19, 2011, 09:24:45 AM
Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.  She was saying that this would be a good way to show the R&A that Portrush can handle a big golf event.  I'm not 100% sure but I think the earliest the Open could come to Portrush would be 2016??

Thats spin for ye and trying to jump on band wagon. The R&A said yesterday that they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

Not exactly sure what you're saying here Bensars.  I believe the Opens for 2012, 13 and 14 have already been "awarded" and in years ending in 0 and 5 it is always at St Andrews.  So 2016 would seem to be the earliest.  The pro at Portrush was interviewed and he said that there would be work required to the course, not in terms of the holes but access for spectators and media etc.  But I'm sure 5 years would be enough to carry this out?

What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Despite the constant waxing lyrical about Royal Portrush in the past few days, the experts and most golfers will tell you that the Royal County Down in Newcastle is a much better course. It is continually voted in the top 10 links courses in the world and in 2003 was placed 8th in the Golfer's Digest of best golf courses in the world. The 9th hole is also continually recognised as the one of the best in the business.

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Does Arlene have no qualms about hosting the Irish Open in what she would construe as British territory? Is it the Northern Irish Open?

Newcastle has a worse infrastructure than Portrush so let's forget that. Nothing wrong with flattening Cushendall and adding another 9 holes to the existing course.

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Two different tournaments Bensars

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2011, 11:15:01 AM

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Does Arlene have no qualms about hosting the Irish Open in what she would construe as
British territory? Is it the Northern Irish Open?

Newcastle has a worse infrastructure than Portrush so let's forget that. Nothing wrong with flattening Cushendall and adding another 9 holes to the existing course.

I would have no problem with that as long as the locals were all safely in their houses when it was getting flattened.

From a tourism perspective, I believe RCD would be the better option. Belfast is probably close enough to Newcastle to allow them to consider the city as part of their accommodation catchment area, while the town itself has a couple of big hotels. With some sensible policing of passage through Dundrum, Carryduff and Clough, Newcastle to Belfast would be a very simple run for visitors. Portrush doesn't quite have that set-up. Portrush is just difficult to get to from anywhere, no matter how you add it up.

In terms of the course itself, I wouldn't make a big deal out which one is better. Both are regularly considered in the top 10 in the world, which means they're both beyond reproach and it's like trying to determine if one shade of perfection is a better shade than another. From what I can gather, RCD shades it mostly because the views of the Mournes are sublime, almost unparalleled in world golf.

The more sceptical side of me believes that it's harder to get off these top 10 lists than to get onto them, but still, they're two courses to be immensely proud of.

I read somewhere that those at RCD are not interested in hosting Majors.

Realistically they should host a regular tournament on the tour first before trying a major.

If it went well then they would be in a stronger position.

Irish Open? (I'm 50% serious)

If we are going to try and host the Irish Open why not try and host the Scottish Open or the German Open?

Quote from: Minder on July 19, 2011, 11:36:09 AM
If we are going to try and host the Irish Open why not try and host the Scottish Open or the German Open?

Like I said, they are more likely to get to host a major after demonstrating that they could hold another tournament.

Thats one reason why the K-Club had the European Open for years ahead of the Ryder Cup.

Quote from: Minder on July 19, 2011, 11:36:09 AM
If we are going to try and host the Irish Open why not try and host the Scottish Open or the German Open?

Both Portrush and RCD have hosted Irish Opens in the past (OK the last time was 1947) and Belvoir hosted it in 1953, but bear in mind there was no Irish Open between 1954 and 1975.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2011, 11:15:01 AM

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Does Arlene have no qualms about hosting the Irish Open in what she would construe as British territory? Is it the Northern Irish Open?

Newcastle has a worse infrastructure than Portrush so let's forget that. Nothing wrong with flattening Cushendall and adding another 9 holes to the existing course.

Only so long as Johnny Joe's is left alone :D

Quote from: muppet on July 19, 2011, 11:33:38 AM
Realistically they should host a regular tournament on the tour first before trying a major.

If it went well then they would be in a stronger position.

Irish Open? (I'm 50% serious)

they hosted 5 or 6 senior opens in the late 90's and early 00's.

I'm working on a Hollywood joke involving Wood and Holly, but i aint getting it. Neither is she.

McIlroy just tweeted this - not bad  :D

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Delighted for Clarke-but something is bothering me about the media reaction, or rather lack thereof to him showing up pissed to the press conference the next morning.

I personally don't have a problem with it, but if an All Ireland winning GAA captain pulled the same stunt there would be uproar, radio phone in's would go into meltdown and the whole 'they're role models and won't someone think of the children' would be trotted out.

What's the difference here, why the hypocrisy? 

Stephenite, I think you're being a bit paranoid. There's always a few GAA folk not making a lot of sense in the City West / Burlington after an AI final. The rugger boys are routinely filmed having too much. Tommy Bowe after the grand slam? Ireland soccer going on the lash with journalists during the 2002 WC? 

Maybe so, fair enough.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2011, 11:15:01 AM

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Does Arlene have no qualms about hosting the Irish Open in what she would construe as British territory? Is it the Northern Irish Open?

Newcastle has a worse infrastructure than Portrush so let's forget that. Nothing wrong with flattening Cushendall and adding another 9 holes to the existing course.

Will this Arlene one have any problem with the Tri colour flying atop  whichever course is chosen club house? It will still be the Irish open after all.

That is a very interesting question!

Are they happy to be see Ireland as one for the likes of Golf or Rugby but not soccer?  Hate bringing politics into this type of thing but it will be interesting to see how this pens out.

Quote from: laoislad on July 19, 2011, 01:23:47 PM

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2011, 11:15:01 AM

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Does Arlene have no qualms about hosting the Irish Open in what she would construe as British territory? Is it the Northern Irish Open?

Newcastle has a worse infrastructure than Portrush so let's forget that. Nothing wrong with flattening Cushendall and adding another 9 holes to the existing course.

Will this Arlene one have any problem with the Tri colour flying atop  whichever course is chosen club house? It will still be the Irish open after all.

This Arlene would have a huge problem with the Tricolour flying (unless it was at the top of a bonfire).  If this comes to pass expect to see the GUI flag flying (or something similar)

Quote from: stephenite on July 19, 2011, 12:54:17 PM
Delighted for Clarke-but something is bothering me about the media reaction, or rather lack thereof to him showing up pissed to the press conference the next morning.

I personally don't have a problem with it, but if an All Ireland winning GAA captain pulled the same stunt there would be uproar, radio phone in's would go into meltdown and the whole 'they're role models and won't someone think of the children' would be trotted out.

What's the difference here, why the hypocrisy?

The one thing I would say is that the All Ireland final last year occured in the midst of the contoversy over Brian Cowen's few pints. I was listening to RTE radio one on the MOnday morning and a presenter made the point that members of the Cork team and management had been on the radio earlier and despite the fact that there was no doubt drink taken the night before, they were remarkably clear and articulate.

Quote from: Tubberman on July 19, 2011, 12:22:02 PM
McIlroy just tweeted this - not bad  :D

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What's Ziggy doing up there?

Quote from: AQMP on July 19, 2011, 01:38:59 PM

Quote from: laoislad on July 19, 2011, 01:23:47 PM

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2011, 11:15:01 AM

Quote from: Bensars on July 19, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What i am saying, is questioning the statement  "Judging from Arlene Foster's input to Talkback yesterday negotiations seem to be at an advanced stage to bring the Irish Open to Portrush in the next couple of years.", when at the same time the R&A  said yesterday they would look at the idea again in the autumn.

One is saying that they would consider the prospect while another gives the impression its at an advaced stage.

Does Arlene have no qualms about hosting the Irish Open in what she would construe as British territory? Is it the Northern Irish Open?

Newcastle has a worse infrastructure than Portrush so let's forget that. Nothing wrong with flattening Cushendall and adding another 9 holes to the existing course.

Will this Arlene one have any problem with the Tri colour flying atop  whichever course is chosen club house? It will still be the Irish open after all.

This Arlene would have a huge problem with the Tricolour flying (unless it was at the top of a bonfire).  If this comes to pass expect to see the GUI flag flying (or something similar)

If they want the IRISH open then they can bloody well fly the proper flag!

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G MAC rory and big D on the blackstuff

Fair play to big Darren, and the other lads, and it is nice to see them as normal felllas. Does anyone think there'd be a different reaction though if the Kerry or Cork or Tyrone or whomever lads were constantly pictured with pints and fags or cigars after winning an All Ireland?

Yes - because many GAA fans feel an ownership of their county players. These boys are out celebrating - and are well above any criticism that would be leveled at them - and I wish that the county players would be treated as such also.

Never seems to bother Laois footballers..

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G MAC rory and big D on the blackstuff

With his Lurgan roots I'd say Rory would prefer a glass of Buckfast.

True, or some of the Offaly ones come to that :D

Ah no, seriously, have you ever been out in the company of an intercounty footballer? From time to time they get their picture taken with whomever. Most of them, in my experience, go to great lengths to hide the bottle of bud or whatever behind their backs. It's almost taboo for them to be seen drinking.

Now obviously there is the preparation side of it, but I think it's more to do with the 'example' side that has been drilled into the consciousness for the last few years.

I'm not criticising the golfers, or the rugby players that throw beer and champagne all over the place on the pitch, but I find the contrast interesting.

Quote from: AZOffaly on July 20, 2011, 09:18:05 PM

Ah no, seriously, have you ever been out in the company of an intercounty footballer? From time to time they get their picture taken with whomever. Most of them, in my experience, go to great lengths to hide the bottle of bud or whatever behind their backs. It's almost taboo for them to be seen drinking.

Now obviously there is the preparation side of it, but I think it's more to do with the 'example' side that has been drilled into the consciousness for the last few years.

on the other hand some don't. A certain player , All Ireland winner from the early noughties thought nothing of sitting at the top table at our dinner dance chain smoking and drinking pints. Lets JUST say some of our players were v surprised by it, and non too impressed

Golfers dont have to go out the following week and run for 60, 70, 80 or 90 minutes compared to Soccer,  rugby or Gaelic footballers, all they have to do is walk for 3 hours or so and swing a stick, a feed of stout is hardly going to kill them.

Quote from: AZOffaly on July 20, 2011, 09:11:17 PM
Fair play to big Darren, and the other lads, and it is nice to see them as normal felllas. Does anyone think there'd be a different reaction though if the Kerry or Cork or Tyrone or whomever lads were constantly pictured with pints and fags or cigars after winning an All Ireland?

Clarke has shown that physical conditioning and the associated lifestyle isn't necessarily a requirement for success in golf. Same doesn't apply to most other sports.

Not my point lads. I'm contrasting the media attitudes towards the obvious drink related celebrations here (and in rugby) versus the same attitude towards GAA and alcohol.

I think the reaction is because of who it is - I would expect the same jovial reaction to Jimenez winning or John Daly, but if it was McIlroy, Poulter or Donald, there would be serious frowning and complaint.

Similarly if Kerry won an All-Ireland and the team were pictured on the tear for a week, it would be commented on, whereas you would expect the likes of Fermanagh or Antrim to go on the tear for a month and never play football again if they won (reference Donegal 1992, Derry 1993).

Quote from: AZOffaly on July 20, 2011, 10:51:25 PM
Not my point lads. I'm contrasting the media attitudes towards the obvious drink related celebrations here (and in rugby) versus the same attitude towards GAA and alcohol.

Come out and say it's a class thing then!

A class thing?

Aye, its class to go on the rip.

Some people on here are looking for an angle that doesn't exist.

If Clarke had have went on a week long bender after winning the Qatar inviational, the media would have hung him out.

But it wasn't the Qatar Invitational, it was the British Open. The biggest prize in his sport. He was entitled to party like a loon, just like each year's AI wnning teams are. Also, don't forger that when RTE are looking to interview people at the Burlington, they've 15 choices, and will end up with a couple of sober ones. Clarke is himself. Just one.

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G MAC rory and big D on the blackstuff

With his Lurgan roots I'd say Rory would prefer a glass of Buckfast.

£300 bottles of Krystal Champaigne is his tipple I hear.

It amuses me the perception on here is that RTE is all about the rugby ignoring the international aspect of the game (do RTE not show every international rules game live?), the lower costs for outside broadcasts - Aviva, RDS and Donnybrook all within 2 miles of RTE, a vibrant professional game with relative international superstars. Rugby is also tribal, much like the GAA you can't pick your province it picks you (unless you're AZ)* which leads to very high viewing figures which brings advertisers which brings revenue, the life blood of any commercial broadcaster.

Anyhow the GAA is sporting and a cultural organisation and there seems very much a belief from within the GAA that alcohol is somehow bad and if the GAA want to portray this image, well then it's only natural for members to fill uncomfortable when they are in the public light. Did the GAA not have a task force on alcohol abuse, the process around the renewal of the Guinness Hurling Sponsorship the crackdown on local pub sponsoring under-age teams? So if a leading GAA player acted like the golfers questions would have to be asked fairly in my opinion why is the GAA trying to crack down on alcohol when it's role models seem to embrace it, no?

Rugby on the other hand is known for a drinking culture (although most leading professionals don't drink), the IRFU are purely a sporting organisation but while they will run alcohol awareness programs they don't frown upon it and embrace the revenues (Magners, Guinness, Heineken) generated. But these guys know they are role models, some like a fag (including the greatest of them all) yet will never be caught in public smoking but drinking is no big deal in a sense the sponsors would almost expect it.

What is interesting is how the Stephen Ferris case in the north has barely got a mention but if a similar high profile GAA player or soccer player did the same the tabloids would go into meltdown.

*couldn't resist..

Some PR for Guinness again.

QuoteSome PR for Guinness again.

Sure is - Obama, Lizzie, Golf Champions shure isn't Oireland a great ould place

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Quote from: The Gs Man on July 20, 2011, 09:15:42 PM

Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 20, 2011, 09:07:50 PM
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G MAC rory and big D on the blackstuff

With his Lurgan roots I'd say Rory would prefer a glass of Buckfast.

£300 bottles of Krystal Champaigne is his tipple I hear.

Yip was in a club in London after his visit to Wimbledon and in 2 hrs the bill for 4 of them was almost £4k drinking Champers at £750 bottle.

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2011, 10:22:45 AMWhat is interesting is how the Stephen Ferris case in the north has barely got a mention but if a similar high profile GAA player or soccer player did the same the tabloids would go into meltdown.

*couldn't resist..

just googled that as I'd never heard it before, couldn't find much on it, the belfast tele didn't have much detail - poor auld Jonathan Woodgate and Lee Bowyer made a bit more news back in the day.

Quote from: Bogball XV on July 21, 2011, 11:56:56 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2011, 10:22:45 AMWhat is interesting is how the Stephen Ferris case in the north has barely got a mention but if a similar high profile GAA player or soccer player did the same the tabloids would go into meltdown.

*couldn't resist..

just googled that as I'd never heard it before, couldn't find much on it, the belfast tele didn't have much detail - poor auld Jonathan Woodgate and Lee Bowyer made a bit more news back in the day.

I had to do the same, i never heard a mention of it !

what did ferris do???

Little known fact: Not all six county golfers are Major winners

Mr Michael Hoey Esquire took 10 shots are the par four 18th hole today.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2011/tournamentid=2011051/leaderboard/index.html (http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2011/tournamentid=2011051/leaderboard/index.html)

The bad old Tele, BBC and UTV blatantly ignoring the Stephen Ferris assualt charge...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13862540 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13862540)

http://www.u.tv/news/Rugby-star-Ferris-denies-assault/4e8b68f5-d395-4c28-9b83-ce7255b4f2e2 (http://www.u.tv/news/Rugby-star-Ferris-denies-assault/4e8b68f5-d395-4c28-9b83-ce7255b4f2e2)

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/rugby-star-stephen-ferris-and-brother-appear-in-court-on-assault-charges-16014678.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/rugby-star-stephen-ferris-and-brother-appear-in-court-on-assault-charges-16014678.html)

You see what you want to see lads.

Quote from: Orior on July 21, 2011, 12:58:22 PM
Little known fact: Not all six county golfers are Major winners

Mr Michael Hoey Esquire took 10 shots are the par four 18th hole today.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2011/tournamentid=2011051/leaderboard/index.html (http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2011/tournamentid=2011051/leaderboard/index.html)

Maybe, but young Hoey has won twice on the European tour over the last 2/3 seasons - in fact, it was only with his US Open victory that McIlroy joined him in terms of European tour victories.

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Quote from: Orior on July 21, 2011, 12:58:22 PM
Little known fact: Not all six county golfers are Major winners

Mr Michael Hoey Esquire took 10 shots are the par four 18th hole today.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2011/tournamentid=2011051/leaderboard/index.html (http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2011/tournamentid=2011051/leaderboard/index.html)

Maybe, but young Hoey has won twice on the European tour over the last 2/3 seasons - in fact, it was only with his US Open victory that McIlroy joined him in terms of European tour victories.

Maybe but you also have to consider the class of the golfers too that he's competing against. Arguably McIlroy doesn't need to play as many events, therefore he chooses the best event which have the best golfers competing.