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Title: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 01:42:49 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25986243-5018851,00.html (http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25986243-5018851,00.html)

Good news for Carlow!
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: orangeman on August 26, 2009, 02:06:46 PM
Another good news story for the GAA - return of another of our stars.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 02:17:56 PM
All that glitters......
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: omagh_gael on August 26, 2009, 02:24:42 PM
Yesterdays Irish news back page was dominated by a possible return of martin Clarke also
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Sure Clarke isn't even getting a game now.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 26, 2009, 02:37:34 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Sure Clarke isn't even getting a game now.

Seems he's gone backwards a bit this year. Setanta has actually been having his best season for Carlton since he left. Even hit 11 goals this year.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: orangeman on August 26, 2009, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Sure Clarke isn't even getting a game now.

Amazing. He was such a talent to begin with. It's a very tough sport and fairly puts Kennelly's achievements in perspective.


I'm reading as well that Sydney are looking to the potential of taking Kennelly back again next year.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 02:49:04 PM
I don't think it's a question of ability with Clarke.
He's easily good enough.
Maybe his heart/head just isn't in it anymore.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: magpie seanie on August 26, 2009, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 26, 2009, 02:37:34 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Sure Clarke isn't even getting a game now.

Seems he's gone backwards a bit this year. Setanta has actually been having his best season for Carlton since he left. Even hit 11 goals this year.

Maybe the ould dust up with the team mate was no harm. You'd often see that.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on August 26, 2009, 03:23:30 PM
Maybe Pearse Hanley will jack it in so too.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Final Whistle on August 26, 2009, 03:30:56 PM
I read somewhere it was Clarkes kicking style that has left hime exposed. Article stated it takes him too long to get the ball to boot and opposition teams had picked up on this.

Id love to see Clarke back in the red and black. Ulster needs a strong Down.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: norabeag on August 26, 2009, 03:33:17 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 26, 2009, 02:24:42 PM
Yesterdays Irish news back page was dominated by a possible return of martin Clarke also
Apparently he has bought a house in the Loughinisland area!
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ballinaman on August 26, 2009, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 26, 2009, 03:23:30 PM
Maybe Pearse Hanley will jack it in so too.

Don't think he's going to have a choice.....hamstring has ruined him and his chances. Axe could fall soon
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: thebandit on August 26, 2009, 04:09:52 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on August 26, 2009, 03:30:56 PM
I read somewhere it was Clarkes kicking style that has left hime exposed. Article stated it takes him too long to get the ball to boot and opposition teams had picked up on this.

Id love to see Clarke back in the red and black. Ulster needs a strong Down.

From what we have seen in the championship this year, the more intelligent ball-playing footballers like Clarke we have playing our sport the better
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on August 26, 2009, 05:39:38 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 26, 2009, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 26, 2009, 03:23:30 PM
Maybe Pearse Hanley will jack it in so too.

Don't think he's going to have a choice.....hamstring has ruined him and his chances. Axe could fall soon

Genuinely I feel sorry for him and would like to see him doing well over there because he has serious ability for the game. But every cloud has a silver lining too.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: down6061689194 on August 26, 2009, 06:42:02 PM
Quote from: norabeag on August 26, 2009, 03:33:17 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 26, 2009, 02:24:42 PM
Yesterdays Irish news back page was dominated by a possible return of martin Clarke also
Apparently he has bought a house in the Loughinisland area!

Another good signing for the island.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stevecw on August 27, 2009, 01:49:43 AM
Back to the original topic here!! Yes Brendan Murphy has decided to return home.
Its great news for his club Rathvilly and especially for Carlow.

His story in Aus is that in his 1st few months there he was picked out as someone who would be on senior side by end of 1st season. But then he had injury after injury...it was crazy. He would just recover from 1 thing when he would damage or pull something else in a reserve game etc..

His 2 year contract ended, but they saw he had the talent to make it, and offered him a new 1 year deal.
But Bren was so pissed off with all the injuries and frustration he has endured since going to Aus that he decided to come home.
His main reason for coming home this year is that he is still u-21 for Carlow next year. And his knows this side has big potential.
Next years 21s will be the minor team that got to leinster final in 07 and only got beaten in AI qf by eventual champs Galway.

Carlow football as im sure most of you know is crap, but that minor side of 07 was/and still is our hope. Already 2 or 3 of them are on senior side and helped us to a win v Wicklow which stopped their promotion, and then ran Louth and Donegal close in championship.

Next year with Murphy back on board that 07 minor side is our 21s and could well shock all and bring a very very long (since 1944) awaited leinster title to Carlow!!
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: HeaveHo on August 27, 2009, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 26, 2009, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 26, 2009, 03:23:30 PM
Maybe Pearse Hanley will jack it in so too.

Don't think he's going to have a choice.....hamstring has ruined him and his chances. Axe could fall soon

Michael Voss, the coach of the Brisbane Lions, is a huge wrap for Hanley - he might get another year. The reoccurence of soft tissue injuries at his age is a worry - clearly there is an ongoing problem which needs to be identified and addressed. 
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: HeaveHo on August 27, 2009, 08:44:29 AM
Quote from: orangeman on August 26, 2009, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 26, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Sure Clarke isn't even getting a game now.

Amazing. He was such a talent to begin with. It's a very tough sport and fairly puts Kennelly's achievements in perspective.


I'm reading as well that Sydney are looking to the potential of taking Kennelly back again next year.

Clarke's team Collingwood are flying and are a big show for the flag (premiership). Clarke went home for his sister's wedding and hasn't been able to make it back into the side. His form in the seconds has been solid so he is only an injury away from getting back in. Collingwood have been playing lots of first year players who will probably make way for the more seasoned blokes like Clark. The slow ball drop stuff is bollocks - the only knock on Clarke is his inability to kick with both feet - there are a few players like that in the AFL but it certainly isn't fatal to an AFL career.

Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Gold on August 27, 2009, 11:25:41 AM
Quote from: stevecw on August 27, 2009, 01:49:43 AM
Back to the original topic here!! Yes Brendan Murphy has decided to return home.
Its great news for his club Rathvilly and especially for Carlow.

His story in Aus is that in his 1st few months there he was picked out as someone who would be on senior side by end of 1st season. But then he had injury after injury...it was crazy. He would just recover from 1 thing when he would damage or pull something else in a reserve game etc..

His 2 year contract ended, but they saw he had the talent to make it, and offered him a new 1 year deal.
But Bren was so pissed off with all the injuries and frustration he has endured since going to Aus that he decided to come home.
His main reason for coming home this year is that he is still u-21 for Carlow next year. And his knows this side has big potential.
Next years 21s will be the minor team that got to leinster final in 07 and only got beaten in AI qf by eventual champs Galway.

Carlow football as im sure most of you know is crap, but that minor side of 07 was/and still is our hope. Already 2 or 3 of them are on senior side and helped us to a win v Wicklow which stopped their promotion, and then ran Louth and Donegal close in championship.

Next year with Murphy back on board that 07 minor side is our 21s and could well shock all and bring a very very long (since 1944) awaited leinster title to Carlow!!

Good man SteveCW

hope he helps you's out down there and that you's get that Leinster title--if you make the final i'll see you down in Parnell Park for it
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Sionnach on August 27, 2009, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 26, 2009, 02:06:46 PM
Another good news story for the GAA - return of another of our stars.

One of our stars? Getting a bit carried away there aren't we?
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 27, 2009, 08:03:39 PM
Will Wicklow sign him up now then?
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stew on August 27, 2009, 08:41:02 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on August 26, 2009, 03:30:56 PM
I read somewhere it was Clarkes kicking style that has left hime exposed. Article stated it takes him too long to get the ball to boot and opposition teams had picked up on this.

Id love to see Clarke back in the red and black. Ulster needs a strong Down.

It does in yer ballix!
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: orangeman on August 27, 2009, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: stevecw on August 27, 2009, 01:49:43 AM
Back to the original topic here!! Yes Brendan Murphy has decided to return home.
Its great news for his club Rathvilly and especially for Carlow.

His story in Aus is that in his 1st few months there he was picked out as someone who would be on senior side by end of 1st season. But then he had injury after injury...it was crazy. He would just recover from 1 thing when he would damage or pull something else in a reserve game etc..

His 2 year contract ended, but they saw he had the talent to make it, and offered him a new 1 year deal.
But Bren was so pissed off with all the injuries and frustration he has endured since going to Aus that he decided to come home.
His main reason for coming home this year is that he is still u-21 for Carlow next year. And his knows this side has big potential.
Next years 21s will be the minor team that got to leinster final in 07 and only got beaten in AI qf by eventual champs Galway.

Carlow football as im sure most of you know is crap, but that minor side of 07 was/and still is our hope. Already 2 or 3 of them are on senior side and helped us to a win v Wicklow which stopped their promotion, and then ran Louth and Donegal close in championship.

Next year with Murphy back on board that 07 minor side is our 21s and could well shock all and bring a very very long (since 1944) awaited leinster title to Carlow!!


Fair play. Hope they win it.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ballinaman on August 27, 2009, 09:27:38 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 27, 2009, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: stevecw on August 27, 2009, 01:49:43 AM
Back to the original topic here!! Yes Brendan Murphy has decided to return home.
Its great news for his club Rathvilly and especially for Carlow.

His story in Aus is that in his 1st few months there he was picked out as someone who would be on senior side by end of 1st season. But then he had injury after injury...it was crazy. He would just recover from 1 thing when he would damage or pull something else in a reserve game etc..

His 2 year contract ended, but they saw he had the talent to make it, and offered him a new 1 year deal.
But Bren was so pissed off with all the injuries and frustration he has endured since going to Aus that he decided to come home.
His main reason for coming home this year is that he is still u-21 for Carlow next year. And his knows this side has big potential.
Next years 21s will be the minor team that got to leinster final in 07 and only got beaten in AI qf by eventual champs Galway.

Carlow football as im sure most of you know is crap, but that minor side of 07 was/and still is our hope. Already 2 or 3 of them are on senior side and helped us to a win v Wicklow which stopped their promotion, and then ran Louth and Donegal close in championship.

Next year with Murphy back on board that 07 minor side is our 21s and could well shock all and bring a very very long (since 1944) awaited leinster title to Carlow!!


Fair play. Hope they win it.
Not a hope in hell. More chance of winning the Leinster Hurling.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 27, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Some potential midfield partnership- walsh and murphy.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2009, 10:08:27 PM
There's a few boys who have suffered a lot of injuries when they went over there.

Walsh from Cavan seriously suffered and he was a great underage prospect. Then there's this fella in Hanley. I wonder what it is - the step up in training is maybe too severe.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on August 27, 2009, 10:42:56 PM
Great news for Carlow. It looks like the lads are risking serious injuries by going to the AFL. Seems to be a high proportion of the boys going over getting long term injuries.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on August 27, 2009, 10:46:00 PM
Wasnt he critical of Kyle Coney for returning home and accused Harte of putting pressure on him?
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 27, 2009, 11:12:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2009, 10:08:27 PM
There's a few boys who have suffered a lot of injuries when they went over there.

Walsh from Cavan seriously suffered and he was a great underage prospect. Then there's this fella in Hanley. I wonder what it is - the step up in training is maybe too severe.

World of difference going from training from a couple of days per week to twice a day training. Thats the biggest problem. Some body types are not able for it. Any underlying latent injury weaknesses are exposed rapidly in that environment.

Also the physical contact is huge. You have to be bloody lucky in AFL as well. Best ones usually are lucky with injuries.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
I was taking to a Swans season ticket holder and he tells me that Clarke's trip home for the sister's wedding lost him his place and it's more an act of discipline from the manager than a loss of form.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2009, 11:34:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 27, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
I was taking to a Swans season ticket holder and he tells me that Clarke's trip home for the sister's wedding lost him his place and it's more an act of discipline from the manager than a loss of form.

Hmmm if a) Pearse Hanley happens to have a lot if sisters and b) we could marry them off on strategic weekends next year then c) wayhey!
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 27, 2009, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 27, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
I was taking to a Swans season ticket holder and he tells me that Clarke's trip home for the sister's wedding lost him his place and it's more an act of discipline from the manager than a loss of form.

farce if true
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 12:16:57 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2009, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 27, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
I was taking to a Swans season ticket holder and he tells me that Clarke's trip home for the sister's wedding lost him his place and it's more an act of discipline from the manager than a loss of form.

farce if true

Sounds like bollocks - he would've been well cleared to go home for the wedding.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
youd imagine so- unfortunately some aussies see going home as a sign of weakness. i kid you not.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2009, 12:26:38 AM
Yep, I'd imagine he received clearance OK. This fella was intimating that it wasn't the sort of request that would do him any favours though.

He still could play a part yet this season.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
youd imagine so- unfortunately some aussies see going home as a sign of weakness. i kid you not.

Hands down the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 28, 2009, 04:48:56 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
youd imagine so- unfortunately some aussies see going home as a sign of weakness. i kid you not.

Hands down the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.
not sure if you're saying what INDIANA posted is the stupidest thing ever Stephenite?
But i was reading the Big Footy Forum,and while its not about Clarke
and on the Swans forum,some were calling Murphy a Mammys boy,and all sorts of other crap,so it wouldnt suprise me if some idiots did take a shot at Clarke!
On that website alot of them give no credence as to the difficulties, an irish player faces when going over to try and play AFL footy.
To be fair its probably not representative of Aussies as a hole,but only on the few inbred b**astards on that Big Footy Forum
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 05:24:48 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 28, 2009, 04:48:56 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
youd imagine so- unfortunately some aussies see going home as a sign of weakness. i kid you not.

Hands down the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.
not sure if you're saying what INDIANA posted is the stupidest thing ever Stephenite?
But i was reading the Big Footy Forum,and while its not about Clarke
and on the Swans forum,some were calling Murphy a Mammys boy,and all sorts of other crap,so it wouldnt suprise me if some idiots did take a shot at Clarke!
On that website alot of them give no credence as to the difficulties, an irish player faces when going over to try and play AFL footy.
To be fair its probably not representative of Aussies as a hole,but only on the few inbred b**astards on that Big Footy Forum

Ah I was only winding - Bigfooty is the hoganstand.com equivalent of the AFL, full of idiots. There'll always be a few who'll log on to have a dig, mainly because they're not happy with Irish players taking places on rookie lists from locals. We have people on this forum that will take any opportunity to knock the Dubs/Tyrone/Armagh/Kerry so it's not like we don't know about it ourselves. I do it Roscommon people!

Irish players that do come out are treated exceptionally well by the clubs they've signed for, there is a realisation that it's tough for a young lad to live so far away, when Murphy first came out Kennelly was told he was getting a new flat mate!

Point is, anyone involved with Collingwood would appreciate that Clarke needs some home time, none more so than Mick Malthouse and any suggestions that it's looked at in a negative manner by the club is balls in my opinion.

It's just mudslinging by the Tony Fearon's of the Australian AFL online community.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on August 28, 2009, 08:52:01 AM
Clarke basically lost his place to Beams who has come in and done a great job and they have only lost one out of 12 games so no chance to get back in.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
youd imagine so- unfortunately some aussies see going home as a sign of weakness. i kid you not.

Hands down the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.

Not really-some of the Aussie clubs don't like the Irish lads going home except at the end of the season and thats a fact.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 29, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
youd imagine so- unfortunately some aussies see going home as a sign of weakness. i kid you not.

Hands down the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.

Not really-some of the Aussie clubs don't like the Irish lads going home except at the end of the season and thats a fact.

That's not a fact - they are contracted professionals, but do you think the likes of Kennelly were ever denied a trip home when it was required? Do you think a club would invest that amount of money and not be pro-active in looking after their players.

If it is a fact you have obviously have hard evidence - I look forward to seeing and will be happy tobe proven wrong.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Jinxy on August 29, 2009, 01:17:48 AM
They overloaded his body and he paid the price.
He's better off home.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Jimmy14 on August 29, 2009, 07:54:35 AM
Great result for the GAA! :)
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 05:24:48 AM
We have people on this forum that will take any opportunity to knock ............... I do it Roscommon people!

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Like Pearse Hanley  ;) ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 30, 2009, 11:57:25 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 29, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 28, 2009, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 28, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
youd imagine so- unfortunately some aussies see going home as a sign of weakness. i kid you not.

Hands down the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.

Not really-some of the Aussie clubs don't like the Irish lads going home except at the end of the season and thats a fact.

That's not a fact - they are contracted professionals, but do you think the likes of Kennelly were ever denied a trip home when it was required? Do you think a club would invest that amount of money and not be pro-active in looking after their players.

If it is a fact you have obviously have hard evidence - I look forward to seeing and will be happy tobe proven wrong.

Bump for Indiana
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 30, 2009, 11:59:44 PM
just ask Kyle Coney.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 12:04:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2009, 11:59:44 PM
just ask Kyle Coney.

Ask him what - what would he know when he never even completed a full season?

He walked out on them for reasons other than them not appreciating he was Irish.

You stated it was fact - now either you're unwilling to divulge your sources, or you're arrogant enough to believe your own opinion can pass as fact, or you're full of shit.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531237&page=2

I lived in Sydney for 5 years so I know a lot more about the AFL then you think I do. Thats just a sample of  some of the clowns that follow the Swans. By and large I found Australians all right but I have to say the biggest knobs were definitely from Sydney.

Love to see one of the aussies come to ireland to play Gaa for a year. I doubt we'd be asking anyone to choke on a potato if they decided they didn't like it very much. or that they are soft. Not surprsied Murphy decided to come home. There's another on his way home as well (not Clarke) but I'm not at liberty to say who it is. But it will be announced soon enough.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:22:19 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531237&page=2

I lived in Sydney for 5 years so I know a lot more about the AFL then you think I do. Thats just a sample of  some of the clowns that follow the Swans. By and large I found Australians all right but I have to say the biggest knobs were definitely from Sydney.

Love to see one of the aussies come to ireland to play Gaa for a year. I doubt we'd be asking anyone to choke on a potato if they decided they didn't like it very much. or that they are soft. Not surprsied Murphy decided to come home. There's another on his way home as well (not Clarke) but I'm not at liberty to say who it is. But it will be announced soon enough.

You stated that people in AFL clubs don't like the Irish lads going home mid season, you've even gone as far as to call it a fact.

When you've been pulled up on it you use the AFL equivalent of the hoganstand (ie) a bunch of school boys with a laptop to try to back up your case, these are not people with any hand in the running of AFL Clubs, it'd be like letting Armagh4Samagain run the GAA.

That you've lived in Sydney does not matter a damn, knowledge of AFL ditto.

Stop making things up and calling them facts - you've neither the wit or the intellect to back it up.



BTW - from what I've heard, it's Dyas..... but that's not a fact
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:37:48 AM
I'm not that long home from there. I followed the Swans home and away for 4 yeasr solid. I've been to most of the grounds. Most of my friends over there are Swans fans, they were livid with Coney- couldn't accept he was an 18 year old kid who was homesick.(and these were the respectable element of the support). They even questioned Kennelly's motives for going home. Some of them even tried to claim he'd broken his word and contract by going home. There are some serious d**kheads who follow AFL.

i've sat with opposition fans, listened to their jibes about Irish players bailing out on them. What more proof do you want. Did you expect me to take a dictophone for your benefit? You must know at this stage that a lot of the Aussies view the Irish experiment as a joke, ie a waste of rookie spaces. Taking up the places of Aussie kids. A waste of resources for the one in amillion they might find.

I'd stay quiet on the Dyas thing. you'll only bring the wrath of Armagh on top of you. I suggested it a few weeks back.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:37:48 AM
I'm not that long home from there. I followed the Swans home and away for 4 yeasr solid. I've been to most of the grounds. Most of my friends over there are Swans fans, they were livid with Coney- couldn't accept he was an 18 year old kid who was homesick.(and these were the respectable element of the support). They even questioned Kennelly's motives for going home. Some of them even tried to claim he'd broken his word and contract by going home. There are some serious d**kheads who follow AFL.

i've sat with opposition fans, listened to their jibes about Irish players bailing out on them. What more proof do you want. Did you expect me to take a dictophone for your benefit? You must know at this stage that a lot of the Aussies view the Irish experiment as a joke, ie a waste of rookie spaces. Taking up the places of Aussie kids. A waste of resources for the one in amillion they might find.

I'd stay quiet on the Dyas thing. you'll only bring the wrath of Armagh on top of you. I suggested it a few weeks back.

You said people in the clubs - what the fans say on the subject is not what's up for discussion here.

I've gone to a fair few of the Swans reserve games and all the real fans there are gutted to see Murphy leaving.

The clubs go out of their way to make these lads feel at home, you've disputed this, tried to call your opinon fact and when challenged start screeching about the fans, the fans!!!
Who gives a f**k what most of those brainless twats think - THAT"S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

That you provide links to bigfooty only increases the suspicion that you've not got a notion of what you're waffling on about.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: HeaveHo on August 31, 2009, 06:56:12 AM
Clarke's return for his sister's wedding was approved by the club - see Clarke's own blog on the Collingwood website.

AFL is a professional business - if Irish players want to return home for whatever reason that is just part of the process - no one running an AFL club bears any ill will towards a lad who chooses to return home - it is a business risk/cost. Most GAA players are international rookie listed and don't take up any spots on the main list of 35 until they have proved that they are up to the mark. For example Dyas, Murphy A O'Halpin, Quinn are or were rookie listed. Clarke, Begley and Setanta are all on the main lists.

Murphy did have injury problems at Sydney but was also surpassed by Martin Pyke, former a Canadian rugby international, who is an impressive physical specimen and who played a couple of games this year. It was unlikely Murphy would have played in front of Pyke so that might have contributed to his decision to go home.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Declan on August 31, 2009, 07:38:12 AM
Was talking to someone at the weekend and he said that Setanta has signed up for another two years?
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:37:48 AM
I'm not that long home from there. I followed the Swans home and away for 4 yeasr solid. I've been to most of the grounds. Most of my friends over there are Swans fans, they were livid with Coney- couldn't accept he was an 18 year old kid who was homesick.(and these were the respectable element of the support). They even questioned Kennelly's motives for going home. Some of them even tried to claim he'd broken his word and contract by going home. There are some serious d**kheads who follow AFL.

i've sat with opposition fans, listened to their jibes about Irish players bailing out on them. What more proof do you want. Did you expect me to take a dictophone for your benefit? You must know at this stage that a lot of the Aussies view the Irish experiment as a joke, ie a waste of rookie spaces. Taking up the places of Aussie kids. A waste of resources for the one in amillion they might find.

I'd stay quiet on the Dyas thing. you'll only bring the wrath of Armagh on top of you. I suggested it a few weeks back.

You said people in the clubs - what the fans say on the subject is not what's up for discussion here.

I've gone to a fair few of the Swans reserve games and all the real fans there are gutted to see Murphy leaving.

The clubs go out of their way to make these lads feel at home, you've disputed this, tried to call your opinon fact and when challenged start screeching about the fans, the fans!!!
Who gives a f**k what most of those brainless t**ts think - THAT"S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

That you provide links to bigfooty only increases the suspicion that you've not got a notion of what you're waffling on about.

Listen mate you're entitled to your delusions but I have first hand experience of living over there. Nothing you say will change that So deal with it. And stop being such a baby. If you want to setup your own message board- go ahead by all means. Or better still organise Columbo to do your investigating. With 5 years living experience over there I don't have to justify my first hand experiences to anyone. Do you expect me to put the air tickets up online or something?
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 09:18:05 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:37:48 AM
I'm not that long home from there. I followed the Swans home and away for 4 yeasr solid. I've been to most of the grounds. Most of my friends over there are Swans fans, they were livid with Coney- couldn't accept he was an 18 year old kid who was homesick.(and these were the respectable element of the support). They even questioned Kennelly's motives for going home. Some of them even tried to claim he'd broken his word and contract by going home. There are some serious d**kheads who follow AFL.

i've sat with opposition fans, listened to their jibes about Irish players bailing out on them. What more proof do you want. Did you expect me to take a dictophone for your benefit? You must know at this stage that a lot of the Aussies view the Irish experiment as a joke, ie a waste of rookie spaces. Taking up the places of Aussie kids. A waste of resources for the one in amillion they might find.

I'd stay quiet on the Dyas thing. you'll only bring the wrath of Armagh on top of you. I suggested it a few weeks back.

You said people in the clubs - what the fans say on the subject is not what's up for discussion here.

I've gone to a fair few of the Swans reserve games and all the real fans there are gutted to see Murphy leaving.

The clubs go out of their way to make these lads feel at home, you've disputed this, tried to call your opinon fact and when challenged start screeching about the fans, the fans!!!
Who gives a f**k what most of those brainless t**ts think - THAT"S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

That you provide links to bigfooty only increases the suspicion that you've not got a notion of what you're waffling on about.

Listen mate you're entitled to your delusions but I have first hand experience of living over there. Nothing you say will change that So deal with it. And stop being such a baby. If you want to setup your own message board- go ahead by all means. Or better still organise Columbo to do your investigating. With 5 years living experience over there I don't have to justify my first hand experiences to anyone. Do you expect me to put the air tickets up online or something?


Nearly everyone in Ireland has lived in Sydney at some stage - nobody's trying to say you didn't. I've even pointed out above that this is not the issue. Do you think I give a flying fcuk where you've lived?

You've said something is a fact - it's patently a lie.

:D Pathetic response, but rather humorous all the same. My delusions?
;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 09:19:34 AM
I object to being called a liar when you haven't a shred of evidence to disprove anything I've said. You really do have a high opinion of yourself. I've good time for nearly all the Mayo people. You sir, though are an asshole.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 09:19:34 AM
I object to being called a liar when you haven't a shred of evidence to disprove anything I've said. You really do have a high opinion of yourself. I've good time for nearly all the Mayo people. You sir, though are an asshole.

You're an idiot - despite repeated requests to prove your "fact" you've done anything but respond to that request, you've posted rubbish links to try and back yourself up, and blustered bluffed the whole way.

If you're going to post something as fact, be prepared to back it up.

If you're not prepared to back it up, be prepated to be called a liar.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 09:31:14 AM
Like I said you have no evidence to disprove anything I've said. I did put up evidence. You expect me to fly over to Australia or something? You sir have no argument. I'll have to get wise not to respond to a WUM like yourself.
If you've got evidence to suggest the decision of Coney was warmly greeted by Swans fans, put it up, or shut up at this stage.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 09:31:14 AM
Like I said you have no evidence to disprove anything I've said. I did put up evidence. You expect me to fly over to Australia or something? You sir have no argument. I'll have to get wise not to respond to a WUM like yourself.
If you've got evidence to suggest the decision of Coney was warmly greeted by Swans fans, put it up, or shut up at this stage.

Why do you keep on bringing the fans into it - can you not read? Why would I want you to fly to Australia?

You're the one who bought the clubs into it - you stated

Quote
some of the Aussie clubs don't like the Irish lads going home except at the end of the season and thats a fact.


Now I've highlighted the word you used above. I've also stated that what fans think is not of interest in this discussion.

If it is a fact - I'd assume there'd be some sort of evidence to back it up, a coach or someone associated with the club voicing their displeasure.

Do you understand it now - clubs thmeselves, not the fans.

Liar

Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 31, 2009, 12:30:06 PM
Fight, fight, fight  :D
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ballinaman on August 31, 2009, 01:35:20 PM
Jebus lads...chillax!! I think indiana may have made a little mistake by saying it's a fact, like i know what he means, obviously can't be proven that it is a fact but people say stuff all the time on this forum like that! Just trying to make a point and thats fair enough!! Now, can't we all just get along!!  :D :P
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Logan on August 31, 2009, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 09:19:34 AM
I object to being called a liar when you haven't a shred of evidence to disprove anything I've said. You really do have a high opinion of yourself. I've good time for nearly all the Mayo people. You sir, though are an asshole.

From reading a few of your posts recently I'd guess you've that box ticked for yourself too
Kettle - Pot
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 11:58:24 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 31, 2009, 01:35:20 PM
Jebus lads...chillax!! I think indiana may have made a little mistake by saying it's a fact, like i know what he means, obviously can't be proven that it is a fact but people say stuff all the time on this forum like that! Just trying to make a point and thats fair enough!! Now, can't we all just get along!!  :D :P

The amount of complete bullshite this lad has been posting over the last number of months is ridiculous. Credibility is an issue and I simply felt it needed highlighting.

Obviously people can make up their own minds
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ballinaman on September 01, 2009, 10:46:54 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 11:58:24 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 31, 2009, 01:35:20 PM
Jebus lads...chillax!! I think indiana may have made a little mistake by saying it's a fact, like i know what he means, obviously can't be proven that it is a fact but people say stuff all the time on this forum like that! Just trying to make a point and thats fair enough!! Now, can't we all just get along!!  :D :P

The amount of complete bullshite this lad has been posting over the last number of months is ridiculous. Credibility is an issue and I simply felt it needed highlighting.

Obviously people can make up their own minds

Thats fair enough, only new to this yoke so haven't read whats been going down the last few months but i'll obviously have to lean to your side of the matter being from the homeland and all!!
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:22:19 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531237&page=2

I lived in Sydney for 5 years so I know a lot more about the AFL then you think I do. Thats just a sample of  some of the clowns that follow the Swans. By and large I found Australians all right but I have to say the biggest knobs were definitely from Sydney.

Love to see one of the aussies come to ireland to play Gaa for a year. I doubt we'd be asking anyone to choke on a potato if they decided they didn't like it very much. or that they are soft. Not surprsied Murphy decided to come home. There's another on his way home as well (not Clarke) but I'm not at liberty to say who it is. But it will be announced soon enough.

You stated that people in AFL clubs don't like the Irish lads going home mid season, you've even gone as far as to call it a fact.

When you've been pulled up on it you use the AFL equivalent of the hoganstand (ie) a bunch of school boys with a laptop to try to back up your case, these are not people with any hand in the running of AFL Clubs, it'd be like letting Armagh4Samagain run the GAA.

That you've lived in Sydney does not matter a damn, knowledge of AFL ditto.

Stop making things up and calling them facts - you've neither the wit or the intellect to back it up.



BTW - from what I've heard, it's Dyas..... but that's not a fact

There's a smidgeon of truth in what Indiana's saying. Clarke's decision to come home has backfired unfortunately.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on September 05, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:22:19 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531237&page=2

I lived in Sydney for 5 years so I know a lot more about the AFL then you think I do. Thats just a sample of  some of the clowns that follow the Swans. By and large I found Australians all right but I have to say the biggest knobs were definitely from Sydney.

Love to see one of the aussies come to ireland to play Gaa for a year. I doubt we'd be asking anyone to choke on a potato if they decided they didn't like it very much. or that they are soft. Not surprsied Murphy decided to come home. There's another on his way home as well (not Clarke) but I'm not at liberty to say who it is. But it will be announced soon enough.

You stated that people in AFL clubs don't like the Irish lads going home mid season, you've even gone as far as to call it a fact.

When you've been pulled up on it you use the AFL equivalent of the hoganstand (ie) a bunch of school boys with a laptop to try to back up your case, these are not people with any hand in the running of AFL Clubs, it'd be like letting Armagh4Samagain run the GAA.

That you've lived in Sydney does not matter a damn, knowledge of AFL ditto.

Stop making things up and calling them facts - you've neither the wit or the intellect to back it up.



BTW - from what I've heard, it's Dyas..... but that's not a fact

There's a smidgeon of truth in what Indiana's saying. Clarke's decision to come home has backfired unfortunately.

No, there isn't.

Clarke decison to go home has only backfired because someone is better than him. Same result if he tweaked his hamstring getting out of bed in Melbourne and missed a week.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stevecw on September 05, 2009, 01:39:00 AM
Murphy arrived home today, he is delighted to be back.

Will play a big part for his club Rathvilly who are in semi final of Carlow championship.
He could be what they need to win championship for 1st time in years, if he gets used to the whole gaa thing in time. His 2 years there have really bulked him up, not too many lads will fancy getting a shoulder from him now!!
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: Rav67 on September 05, 2009, 03:39:56 AM
Quote from: stevecw on September 05, 2009, 01:39:00 AM
Murphy arrived home today, he is delighted to be back.

Will play a big part for his club Rathvilly who are in semi final of Carlow championship.
He could be what they need to win championship for 1st time in years, if he gets used to the whole gaa thing in time. His 2 years there have really bulked him up, not too many lads will fancy getting a shoulder from him now!!

Carlow could possibly kick on and do a Micklow next year with Murphy and T Walsh back.
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 09:37:53 AM
Quote from: stephenite on September 05, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:22:19 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531237&page=2

I lived in Sydney for 5 years so I know a lot more about the AFL then you think I do. Thats just a sample of  some of the clowns that follow the Swans. By and large I found Australians all right but I have to say the biggest knobs were definitely from Sydney.

Love to see one of the aussies come to ireland to play Gaa for a year. I doubt we'd be asking anyone to choke on a potato if they decided they didn't like it very much. or that they are soft. Not surprsied Murphy decided to come home. There's another on his way home as well (not Clarke) but I'm not at liberty to say who it is. But it will be announced soon enough.

You stated that people in AFL clubs don't like the Irish lads going home mid season, you've even gone as far as to call it a fact.

When you've been pulled up on it you use the AFL equivalent of the hoganstand (ie) a bunch of school boys with a laptop to try to back up your case, these are not people with any hand in the running of AFL Clubs, it'd be like letting Armagh4Samagain run the GAA.

That you've lived in Sydney does not matter a damn, knowledge of AFL ditto.

Stop making things up and calling them facts - you've neither the wit or the intellect to back it up.



BTW - from what I've heard, it's Dyas..... but that's not a fact

There's a smidgeon of truth in what Indiana's saying. Clarke's decision to come home has backfired unfortunately.

No, there isn't.

Clarke decison to go home has only backfired because someone is better than him. Same result if he tweaked his hamstring getting out of bed in Melbourne and missed a week.

Ok, so it hasn't backfired or it has backfired?
Title: Re: Murphy quits Swans
Post by: stephenite on September 05, 2009, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 09:37:53 AM
Quote from: stephenite on September 05, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
Quote from: stephenite on August 31, 2009, 01:22:19 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531237&page=2

I lived in Sydney for 5 years so I know a lot more about the AFL then you think I do. Thats just a sample of  some of the clowns that follow the Swans. By and large I found Australians all right but I have to say the biggest knobs were definitely from Sydney.

Love to see one of the aussies come to ireland to play Gaa for a year. I doubt we'd be asking anyone to choke on a potato if they decided they didn't like it very much. or that they are soft. Not surprsied Murphy decided to come home. There's another on his way home as well (not Clarke) but I'm not at liberty to say who it is. But it will be announced soon enough.

You stated that people in AFL clubs don't like the Irish lads going home mid season, you've even gone as far as to call it a fact.

When you've been pulled up on it you use the AFL equivalent of the hoganstand (ie) a bunch of school boys with a laptop to try to back up your case, these are not people with any hand in the running of AFL Clubs, it'd be like letting Armagh4Samagain run the GAA.

That you've lived in Sydney does not matter a damn, knowledge of AFL ditto.

Stop making things up and calling them facts - you've neither the wit or the intellect to back it up.



BTW - from what I've heard, it's Dyas..... but that's not a fact

There's a smidgeon of truth in what Indiana's saying. Clarke's decision to come home has backfired unfortunately.

No, there isn't.

Clarke decison to go home has only backfired because someone is better than him. Same result if he tweaked his hamstring getting out of bed in Melbourne and missed a week.

Ok, so it hasn't backfired or it has backfired?

Hasn't -would've been dropped anyway, regardless of whether or not he went home, stayed and pulled him hamstring or anything else. The interchange system in the AFL would have shown that his replacement was in better form regardless.