What's the best inter-county point you've seen scored in the flesh?
For me, probably Canavan's v Kerry in the 2005 final, followed by Maurice's in 2001.
Championship, league or both?
Wee James, Celtic Park 94
Wee James v Derry in 94.
"if this ball goes over the bar Celtic Park will erupt"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O6iTJfrcCc&feature=related
Well, I don't remember the Canavan point you're talking about ONeill so I think that answers your question! :D
Every person who's ever watched gaelic football will instantly know what you're talking about when you say Maurice Fitz from the sideline versus the Dubs.
The context (Kerry down by 1 with time almost up), on top of the huge skill factor make it easily the greatest point I've ever seen.
I'd go with Ciaran McDonald's late, late winner against the Dubs in 2006. (But then I would say that, wouldn't I?)
Stephen O'Neill's point from a ridiculous angle in the floodlit game v the Dubs in January this year.
Longford's Paul Barden v Down in AIQ in, 2002, in Longford.
Got the ball in the Longford square, soloed the length of the pitch, dodged about 12 tackles and scored a marvellous point out on the left.
Even the Down contingent applauded.
I don't think I will ever see a better point (but Dooher's in the AIF last year almost matched it....almost)
Damian O Reilly Cavan v Donegal (1991ish). Also Eamonn Burns v Down 1991. It started a generation sliceing kicks
Quote from: Jinxy on June 06, 2009, 11:07:49 PM
The context (Kerry down by 1 with time almost up), on top of the huge skill factor make it easily the greatest point I've ever seen.
Maybe that's an example of revisionism. It was in normal time and Dublin had 2 chances to win the game from placed balls after Maurice's point.
Brian Phelan against Cushendall in All Ireland Club Semi this year in injury time from a sideline about 60 yards out to put it to extra time. It brought a smile to my face.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 06, 2009, 11:11:02 PM
I'd go with Ciaran McDonald's late, late winner against the Dubs in 2006. (But then I would say that, wouldn't I?)
You're not the only one.
Dooher's first (from under the Cussack) in last years all-ireland final wasn't a bad one.
In the flesh it was wee James in Celtic Park ...but its unfair to restirct this thread to "in the flesh"...
Have a look at this...
Take your pick ... this lad is a genius..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFJVotAoNk&feature=related
Fitzgerald's point v Dublin in 2001 was incredible; I could hardly believe it when I saw it! Was reminded about it again tonight on TG4's All Ireland Gold.
Quote from: ONeill on June 06, 2009, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 06, 2009, 11:07:49 PM
The context (Kerry down by 1 with time almost up), on top of the huge skill factor make it easily the greatest point I've ever seen.
Maybe that's an example of revisionism. It was in normal time and Dublin had 2 chances to win the game from placed balls after Maurice's point.
How is that revisionism?
If he missed, they lost.
Brian Dooher last years final.
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLMWVZh3jpw (http://ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLMWVZh3jpw)
Quote from: the green man on June 06, 2009, 11:18:26 PM
Damian O Reilly Cavan v Donegal (1991ish). Also Eamonn Burns v Down 1991. It started a generation sliceing kicks
That was the drawn match in Breffni the year Donegal went on to win All-iIeland i would love to see it again.
macdonalds siedline point against dublin was great,likewise fitzgeralds one against dublin from sideline and colm macmanamon scored a ridiculous point against galway,it should have been a mile wide but bent in something crazy.
For me it is Eamon Burns' point in the Athletic Grounds against Down, dummy solo and over the bar off the outside of the boot. Superb!
Mauric Fitz was an outstanding moment and certainly the best placed ball kick I have seen in any sport ie rugby, soccor Australian rules or GAA. We must remember also that Kerry werent all Ireland stuff that year so it was a good punt from a footballer with hope in his heart but ultimately going nowhere against a team who were worse again. I think Doohers last years will do me for a while in terms of an - in play point, as the finest illustration within Gaelic football as to how sheer drive / determination / composure / athleticicsm / audacity and copious skillsets are so crucial to ultimates success in Gaelic football, If you can score a point as good as that then you will win all ireland medals - its as simple as that.
The best point i ever seen was Derek Duggan for ros against leitrim in hyde park in 94. He is right footed, on the right hand side i was directly behind it aged 12 and i just will never forget how he did it, he curled it to perfection with the side foot near corner and sideline.
Like with all these it tends to be hard to impartial & you usually choose scores that mean more to you individually.
Some of Canavan's scores over the years have been breathtaking with him often beating several men before scoring from crazy angles.
In 05 SON had some crackers but with my obvious bias I too would say Donher's from last year. Almost knocked over the line twice & after such a long road on his wrong side did amazing to get it over from there
Ciarán McDonald booking a place in the All Ireland final for Mayo by beating Dublin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6sM-_XKXLY
it's high ....it's OVER!!!
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 06, 2009, 11:17:04 PM
Longford's Paul Barden v Down in AIQ in, 2002, in Longford.
Got the ball in the Longford square, soloed the length of the pitch, dodged about 12 tackles and scored a marvellous point out on the left.
Even the Down contingent applauded.
I don't think I will ever see a better point (but Dooher's in the AIF last year almost matched it....almost)
That's mine too - closely followed by Barden's point in the rain against Wexford in New Ross, or his impossible point in the O'Byrne Cup Final against the Mini-Metros.
O'Neills ability to hit outswingers from the right-hand side of the field off his right foot which makes tight angles even more difficult is breath-taking at times. You'd think kicking an in-swinger with the left boot would make it easier for him. Strangely he prefers to kick them off the left foot from the LHS if the field.
cooper's last score today was pretty special!
Stevie o neills against the dubs in the drawn game in 2005 on the 14yd line with his right foot from the hogan stand sideline to put tyrone up,infact stevie could have 6 are 7 up their.
GG v the Dubs from a ridiculous angle a few years back he was standing on the end line kicked it over the bar.
Johnny McGurk AI semi-final 1993.
Stevie Ah'Nail v the the Dubs in the League this year was an outrageous effort too.
Johnny McGurk against the Dubs in 93 is one of the most memorable/important point that springs to mind.
Maurice Fitz kicked a ridiculous point in the NFL game against Cavan in '97 that was played in New York. Easily the greatest footballer I've seen in my lifetime.
Special mention to Martin Daly's backheeled point for Clare around 11 or 12 years back.
Colm Bradley v Meath in All-Ireland qualifier in 2004. Meath a point up in injury time and Fermanagh won a sideline on 14 yard line.
Last kick of the game and he sliced it over with the outside of the right boot to take the game to extra time, which we then won.
Game wasn't televised and never even seen highlights of it.
Mark Butlers winning point for St Jarlaths against St Pats Maghera in the Hogan Cup final of 1984 played in Croke park and shown live on RTE at the time. Jarlaths won 0-10 to 2-3 with Butler the captain kicking the winner from play from under the old Cusack Stand into the hill with his left foot in injury time.
Finbarr McConnell's kick out in that sailed over the opposing crossbar bar has to get a mention
Quote from: Donegal Danny on June 07, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Mark Butlers winning point for St Jarlaths against St Pats Maghera in the Hogan Cup final of 1984 played in Croke park and shown live on RTE at the time. Jarlaths won 0-10 to 2-3 with Butler the captain kicking the winner from play from under the old Cusack Stand into the hill with his left foot in injury time.
I was at that game, I cant remember the point though. My cousin was full forward for Jarlaths that day, a great game from what I remember.
Any debate about 'the best' whatever needs context and in particular there must be high drama and extreme pressure in it's execution. For example if I break into Croke Park and on the 110th attempt I manage to replicate Ciaran McDonald's winning point against Dublin have I equalled his feat? If you agrue that it had to be in a match, what if you replicate it as the last score of a match that you are winning by 30 points? Have you equalled his feat?
My point (I know) is that the significance of the score has to be a huge part of any such debate. A technically brilliant but otherwise meaningless score can't compare with say Derek Duggan's equalising free against Mayo in 1991. Stephen O'Neill's point in Croker against Dublin this year was technically class and probably took greater accuracy than Ciaran McDonald's winning point against the same opposition but if you had the choice of scoring both, which would you choose? I'd say most would plump for the one that won a Championship semi-final.
I also think there should be two categories:
Free/Sideline kick
&
Score from play.
That way I can say Fitzgerald v Dublin 2001 is the best of the former and McDonald's 2006 winner is the best of the latter.
Quote from: muppet on June 07, 2009, 08:41:48 PM
Any debate about 'the best' whatever needs context and in particular there must be high drama and extreme pressure in it's execution. For example if I break into Croke Park and on the 110th attempt I manage to replicate Ciaran McDonald's winning point against Dublin have I equalled his feat? If you agrue that it had to be in a match, what if you replicate it as the last score of a match that you are winning by 30 points? Have you equalled his feat?
My point (I know) is that the significance of the score has to be a huge part of any such debate. A technically brilliant but otherwise meaningless score can't compare with say Derek Duggan's equalising free against Mayo in 1991. Stephen O'Neill's point in Croker against Dublin this year was technically class and probably took greater accuracy than Ciaran McDonald's winning point against the same opposition but if you had the choice of scoring both, which would you choose? I'd say most would plump for the one that won a Championship semi-final.
I also think there should be two categories:
Free/Sideline kick
&
Score from play.
That way I can say Fitzgerald v Dublin 2001 is the best of the former and McDonald's 2006 winner is the best of the latter.
Oh ffs.
Just pick an effing point.
Quote from: ONeill on June 07, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 07, 2009, 08:41:48 PM
Any debate about 'the best' whatever needs context and in particular there must be high drama and extreme pressure in it's execution. For example if I break into Croke Park and on the 110th attempt I manage to replicate Ciaran McDonald's winning point against Dublin have I equalled his feat? If you agrue that it had to be in a match, what if you replicate it as the last score of a match that you are winning by 30 points? Have you equalled his feat?
My point (I know) is that the significance of the score has to be a huge part of any such debate. A technically brilliant but otherwise meaningless score can't compare with say Derek Duggan's equalising free against Mayo in 1991. Stephen O'Neill's point in Croker against Dublin this year was technically class and probably took greater accuracy than Ciaran McDonald's winning point against the same opposition but if you had the choice of scoring both, which would you choose? I'd say most would plump for the one that won a Championship semi-final.
I also think there should be two categories:
Free/Sideline kick
&
Score from play.
That way I can say Fitzgerald v Dublin 2001 is the best of the former and McDonald's 2006 winner is the best of the latter.
Oh ffs.
Just pick an effing point.
I did.
I think the Gooches effort yesterday was a superb point.
Quote from: rrhf on June 08, 2009, 12:59:35 PM
I think the Gooches effort yesterday was a superb point.
I think he fluked it to be honest and should have been blown up for overcarrying.
Was Lynch shaking his head admiring the point or the fact that Deegan let him take so long to get the shot away ?
But I do agree, it was outrageous.
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 06, 2009, 11:05:43 PM
Wee James v Derry in 94.
"if this ball goes over the bar Celtic Park will erupt"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O6iTJfrcCc&feature=related
How many steps did the man want ::)
Quote from: up tyrone on June 07, 2009, 04:36:06 PM
Stevie o neills against the dubs in the drawn game in 2005 on the 14yd line with his right foot from the hogan stand sideline to put tyrone up,infact stevie could have 6 are 7 up their.
Yeah, 6 or 7. If you add in a couple from Cananvan, one from Dooher and then 5 from the right, five from the left, one.......blah blah blah
You lot are the biggest pack of delusional bullshit merchants you could ever meet!
Have to agree with he Longford lads. Never saw anything like Bardens point against Down. He took a fisted pass from his own goalie and actually soloed out towards the sidelline on the press box side in Pearse Park. Where I was on that side of the field with the crowd around me he actually disappeared out of my view (Pre the steps on that side of the field) All I could see was Down players going across to try and intercept him (push him over the line) and then they would disappear out of view. Then out of the blue he re-aapears about 30 yards out with half of Down after him and continued to kick the score.
I think it is genuinely the only time I have seen both sets of supporters applaud a score.
Didn't John Donnellan score a mighty point in 98? Picked the ball up in his defence and a couple of 1-2s later it was over the bar
Quote from: liihb on June 08, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
Didn't John Donnellan score a mighty point in 98? Picked the ball up in his defence and a couple of 1-2s later it was over the bar
Michael Donnellan in 1998 AIF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzvJ0adWoBc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzvJ0adWoBc)
Quote from: liihb on June 08, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
Didn't John Donnellan score a mighty point in 98? Picked the ball up in his defence and a couple of 1-2s later it was over the bar
That doesn't sound like something John could do. :D
That red haired guy from Laois scored an almighty point against Dublin a few years back
Eamon Burns v Down 1991 in the Athletic Grounds
'You will never see a better score of skill, control and finish'
Ciaran Carey's equaliser against Clare in the 96 MHSF in the Gealic Grounds will never be equalled in any code of sport .
Quote from: Bing Crosby . on June 08, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Ciaran Carey's equaliser against Clare in the 96 MHSF in the Gealic Grounds will never be equalled in any code of sport .
That would be my top hurling score ever never mind point. Inspirational stuff.
I thought it was the winner though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAkM93S_6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAkM93S_6A)
Quote from: North Longford on June 08, 2009, 04:37:10 PM
Have to agree with he Longford lads. Never saw anything like Bardens point against Down. He took a fisted pass from his own goalie and actually soloed out towards the sidelline on the press box side in Pearse Park. Where I was on that side of the field with the crowd around me he actually disappeared out of my view (Pre the steps on that side of the field) All I could see was Down players going across to try and intercept him (push him over the line) and then they would disappear out of view. Then out of the blue he re-aapears about 30 yards out with half of Down after him and continued to kick the score.
I think it is genuinely the only time I have seen both sets of supporters applaud a score.
Surely points against Down in recent times shouldnt count!!
Monaghan people have long memories (out of necessity) for a few sporting achievements.
The Monaghan cast iron entry to an all time top 10 list.
Anyone witness Eamon McEneaney's last kick of the game equalising point against Kerry in AISF 1985,
a free kick taken from a conservatively measured 65 yards out?
Quote from: Main Street on June 09, 2009, 12:45:00 AM
The Monaghan cast iron entry to an all time top 10 list.
Anyone witness Eamon McEneaney's last kick of the game equalising point against Kerry in AISF 1985,
a free kick taken from a conservatively measured 65 yards out?
Probably the point of my childhood.
(as well as McCabe's the following year for different reasons)
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 08, 2009, 05:48:51 PM
Quote from: liihb on June 08, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
Didn't John Donnellan score a mighty point in 98? Picked the ball up in his defence and a couple of 1-2s later it was over the bar
Michael Donnellan in 1998 AIF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzvJ0adWoBc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzvJ0adWoBc)
Are yous not talking about the point that micheal donnellon made, he ran the length of the pitch nearly? But it was sean og de paor that actually put it over?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw2a7Ej_NU
I would say my favourite point would be Ciaran McDonalds against the dubs a few years back, 2006?..closely followed by Maurice Fitzgeralds in 2001 from the sideline.
What about Wilie Joe vs Cork-AI final 1989?
Quote from: muppet on June 08, 2009, 08:15:45 PM
Quote from: Bing Crosby . on June 08, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Ciaran Carey's equaliser against Clare in the 96 MHSF in the Gealic Grounds will never be equalled in any code of sport .
That would be my top hurling score ever never mind point. Inspirational stuff.
I thought it was the winner though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAkM93S_6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAkM93S_6A)
Fantastic point alright ...but if we're talking about the greatest ever, I'd have to give the nod to Eoin Quigley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFkdp6f6rGw
The word genius is overused but fits that score :o
Maurice Fitz from the sideline, super
Quote from: Yes I Would on June 08, 2009, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: North Longford on June 08, 2009, 04:37:10 PM
Have to agree with he Longford lads. Never saw anything like Bardens point against Down. He took a fisted pass from his own goalie and actually soloed out towards the sidelline on the press box side in Pearse Park. Where I was on that side of the field with the crowd around me he actually disappeared out of my view (Pre the steps on that side of the field) All I could see was Down players going across to try and intercept him (push him over the line) and then they would disappear out of view. Then out of the blue he re-aapears about 30 yards out with half of Down after him and continued to kick the score.
I think it is genuinely the only time I have seen both sets of supporters applaud a score.
Surely points against Down in recent times shouldnt count!!
It was in 2002.
i have 5 on a par.
Maurice Fitz sideline against the Dubs 01. I think it was actually into the wind as well, incredible.
02 AI final, 1st half. Ronan Clarke comes out the field, dummies and strikes the ball over the bar, on the turn with his left boot (hes right footed). sensational, for a number of reasons, the ocassion, the distance, his wrong peg, his young age.
Same match, Stevie McDonnell running towards the Hogan on the 14 hooked the ball over the bar with the inside of his right and split the black spot.
05 Ulster final replay, 2 points by the same man within about 5 mins of each other - Stephen O'Neill. First one, where the sideline and 14 meet at the Cusack with the INSIDE of his left boot sailed over, I couldn't believe it! then he waltzed over to the Hogan side and did the same thing with the inside of his RIGHT boot!
02 AI final, 1st half. Ronan Clarke comes out the field, dummies and strikes the ball over the bar, on the turn with his left boot (hes right footed). sensational, for a number of reasons, the ocassion, the distance, his wrong peg, his young age.
Never miond the quality of the man who was marking him. A serious point
Has anyone mentioned Canavans winner in the 2005 semi final, maybe not the most difficult kick, but there must have been some pressure on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8WF2gJ8so
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 09, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Has anyone mentioned Canavans winner in the 2005 semi final, maybe not the most difficult kick, but there must have been some pressure on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8WF2gJ8so
Catch a grip. A 21 yard free to the left of the posts? Ridiculous
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on June 09, 2009, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 09, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Has anyone mentioned Canavans winner in the 2005 semi final, maybe not the most difficult kick, but there must have been some pressure on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8WF2gJ8so
Catch a grip. A 21 yard free to the left of the posts? Ridiculous
Think about the pressue!
stevie o neill in the floodlit match against the dubs 2009
dooher from under the cusack AIF 2008
stephen conway's 45 from the sideline 1989 ulster final(to earn a replay with the last kick of the game)
Quote from: Massey-135 on June 09, 2009, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on June 09, 2009, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 09, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Has anyone mentioned Canavans winner in the 2005 semi final, maybe not the most difficult kick, but there must have been some pressure on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8WF2gJ8so
Catch a grip. A 21 yard free to the left of the posts? Ridiculous
Think about the pressue!
Thought about it. Still ridiculous!
Paul Barden's point in New Ross was something special alright especially in the conditions, and looked like being the matchwinner until Rory Stafford kicked a late free to draw. I saw Barden kick a point that was almost as good against Wexford in a League Match in Pearse Park, might have even been the same year.
Seeing as we're including hurling, on a par with Carey's point is Eamon Morrissey's last minute equaliser in the Leinster Final of '93. It was amazing to witness, 2 lightning quick passes to hand from the corner-back position up the sideline first to midfield and then to the 50. A bullet of a pass across the 50 to the middle of the pitch to hand and then flashed over the bar by Morrissey to save the game. It seemed to happen in split seconds. Put back Wexford's resurrection for another 3 years >:(
There must be about 20 or 30 from Matty Forde which meet the highest standards.
I only have heard descriptions about some of them.
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 09, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Has anyone mentioned Canavans winner in the 2005 semi final, maybe not the most difficult kick, but there must have been some pressure on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8WF2gJ8so
::) Jesus, at this stage I think every Tyrone score since 2003 can lay claim to the greatest score ever.
We get it, Tyrone are good (we've enough people telling us this every day on this board) but don't try and tell me that a 21 yard free is now being classified as one the greatest points of
all time.
Quote from: pedro on June 09, 2009, 06:24:18 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 09, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Has anyone mentioned Canavans winner in the 2005 semi final, maybe not the most difficult kick, but there must have been some pressure on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8WF2gJ8so
::) Jesus, at this stage I think every Tyrone score since 2003 can lay claim to the greatest score ever.
We get it, Tyrone are good (we've enough people telling us this every day on this board) but don't try and tell me that a 21 yard free is now being classified as one the greatest points of all time.
The pressure on him must have been terra right enough, twenty five yards out, slightly left of centre and the full knowledge that if he missed the game goes to overtime................I am amazed the bald fecker didnt faint on the run up.
That man woulndnt have missed that free from 50 yards out, boys like that dont miss when the pressure is on.
Quote from: Massey-135 on June 09, 2009, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on June 09, 2009, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 09, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Has anyone mentioned Canavans winner in the 2005 semi final, maybe not the most difficult kick, but there must have been some pressure on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R8WF2gJ8so
Catch a grip. A 21 yard free to the left of the posts? Ridiculous
Think about the pressue!
Maurice Fitzgerald would have arsed it over from there.
Maurice mightn't have:
In the past distance and angle hardly ever troubled Fitzgerald and I would say every one in attendance would have bet on the maestro to get the equaliser, particularly since he was having such a terrific game.
But just when he was about to make contact with the ball, he seemed to have kicked the ground and the ball fell short of the intended target.
http://archives.tcm.ie/thekingdom/2002/10/10/story601.asp
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on June 10, 2009, 10:59:14 AM
Peter Canavan point against Galway in the All Ireland Semi in 1995 always sticks out in my head. You know the one where he takes on a few defenders and pops the ball over the bar with the left peg from just inside the 'D'.
Spend many a day trying to re-create that point meself, all to no avail of course ;D
Yeah, i remember one time he fisted the ball over the bar. it was brilliant
Canavan scored so many fantastic points in that 94-96 period.
2 in particular stick in my mind:
1994 Ulster semi final in Breffni against Donegal on a very wet day. He scored a point out on the right wing with the inside of the right foot after winning a very difficult low ball and skipping past a few players, for the tricky conditions it was unreal.
1995 Ulster semi against Derry in the first half. He picked the ball up around the half way line beat a few defenders to be faced by Henry Downey who knocked Canavan off his stride, he went down on one knee, bounced straight back up again and kicked it over.
Quote from: loughshore lad on June 10, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
Canavan scored so many fantastic points in that 94-96 period.
2 in particular stick in my mind:
1994 Ulster semi final in Breffni against Donegal on a very wet day. He scored a point out on the right wing with the inside of the right foot after winning a very difficult low ball and skipping past a few players, for the tricky conditions it was unreal.
1995 Ulster semi against Derry in the first half. He picked the ball up around the half way line beat a few defenders to be faced by Henry Downey who knocked Canavan off his stride, he went down on one knee, bounced straight back up again and kicked it over.
That was a serious score - seen it on video recently - unbelievable balance.
NO Brainer really Maurice Fitz in 2001. The context has to be taken into account. Last minute, last chance, one point down, wrong side of the pitch for a right footer, 55 yards out from a standing start with a cross breeze to contend with. Unbelievable. Broke my heart that day.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 10, 2009, 12:01:47 PM
NO Brainer really Maurice Fitz in 2001. The context has to be taken into account. Last minute, last chance, one point down, wrong side of the pitch for a right footer, 55 yards out from a standing start with a cross breeze to contend with. Unbelievable. Broke my heart that day.
Plus he had Tommy Carr in his face
1994 Ulster semi final in Breffni against Donegal on a very wet day. He scored a point out on the right wing with the inside of the right foot after winning a very difficult low ball and skipping past a few players, for the tricky conditions it was unreal. Meatheamh Ls lad remember it.
I remember a replayed club championship game against Errigal Ciaran, I think Canavan was going through his 'bad" patch in 99 I think and he went throiugh on goals in the first half and the goalkeeper smothered the shot. At half time the goalie tapped the wee man on the back of the head and said Peter I can rememnber when ye used to score them. In the second half Canavan took clean out scored 2 goals including one where he took a sideline from 60 yards out took the one 2 and rounded the entire defence before slipping in his second, one of the greatest goals ive seen. As the goalkeeper picked the ball out for the second time, the wee man ran in and said, "Paddy I can remember when you used to save them." His famous years were 95 / 2003 etc but to the few who witnessed his feats in 94 he was as unmarkable as he ever was.
Just a wee story about the legend sorry for going off topic on to goals
Quote from: the Deel Rover on June 10, 2009, 12:04:42 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 10, 2009, 12:01:47 PM
NO Brainer really Maurice Fitz in 2001. The context has to be taken into account. Last minute, last chance, one point down, wrong side of the pitch for a right footer, 55 yards out from a standing start with a cross breeze to contend with. Unbelievable. Broke my heart that day.
Plus he had Tommy Carr in his face
Plus he had only come on.
One of the best points I ever saw was scored by Collegelands Leo McGeary in a national league game in the athletic grounds. leo got the ball and soloed for about twenty yards, beat two men and from a dead run hugging the right sideline dropped her over from a full forty five yards. my jaw dropped at that score.
Fitzgeralds point was the best i have ever seen given all the variables attached to it. That man quit playing inter county footbal prematurely and I wonder sometimes if kerry would have won sam a couple of times more if he had stuck around, he was that good. he is the best two footed player i ever saw.
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on June 08, 2009, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: up tyrone on June 07, 2009, 04:36:06 PM
Stevie o neills against the dubs in the drawn game in 2005 on the 14yd line with his right foot from the hogan stand sideline to put tyrone up,infact stevie could have 6 are 7 up their.
Yeah, 6 or 7. If you add in a couple from Cananvan, one from Dooher and then 5 from the right, five from the left, one.......blah blah blah
You lot are the biggest pack of delusional bullshit merchants you could ever meet!
It's called an opinion, jesus christ. Just because you're from Londonderry doesn't mean you have to cry about it.
Quote from: stibhan on June 10, 2009, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on June 08, 2009, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: up tyrone on June 07, 2009, 04:36:06 PM
Stevie o neills against the dubs in the drawn game in 2005 on the 14yd line with his right foot from the hogan stand sideline to put tyrone up,infact stevie could have 6 are 7 up their.
Yeah, 6 or 7. If you add in a couple from Cananvan, one from Dooher and then 5 from the right, five from the left, one.......blah blah blah
You lot are the biggest pack of delusional bullshit merchants you could ever meet!
It's called an opinion, jesus christ. Just because you're from Londonderry doesn't mean you have to cry about it.
Such hilarity
Quote from: Main Street on June 09, 2009, 12:45:00 AM
Monaghan people have long memories (out of necessity) for a few sporting achievements.
The Monaghan cast iron entry to an all time top 10 list.
Anyone witness Eamon McEneaney's last kick of the game equalising point against Kerry in AISF 1985,
a free kick taken from a conservatively measured 65 yards out?
Either
(1) you don't understand what conservatively means
or
(2) the measurement was taken from half way up the Canal End terrace.
A couple of yards outside the 50 yard line directly in front of goal. A run of the mill kick for a free taker of McEneaney's ability.
Has such a kick in similar circumstances been bettered since, in Croke Park?
Whether it was a run of the mill kick for such a player, is irrelevant.
Was it not a 50 kick?
Quote from: INDIANA on June 10, 2009, 12:01:47 PM
NO Brainer really Maurice Fitz in 2001. The context has to be taken into account. Last minute, last chance, one point down, wrong side of the pitch for a right footer, 55 yards out from a standing start with a cross breeze to contend with. Unbelievable. Broke my heart that day.
Must apologise to maurice for suggesting his right foot was better than his left. I'm quite sure he could have kicked it with his left as well.
Quote from: Main Street on June 11, 2009, 01:55:27 PM
Has such a kick in similar circumstances been bettered since, in Croke Park?
Whether it was a run of the mill kick for such a player, is irrelevant.
Ever hear of the equalizer?
Galway have.
Quote from: muppet on June 11, 2009, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 11, 2009, 01:55:27 PM
Has such a kick in similar circumstances been bettered since, in Croke Park?
Whether it was a run of the mill kick for such a player, is irrelevant.
Ever hear of the equalizer?
Galway have.
is that the nick name of a referee in galway ?
I thought he was talking about an act of retribution.
What was the point that bounced over the bar involving Meath in the 1990s?
Quote from: ONeill on June 11, 2009, 09:26:40 PM
What was the point that bounced over the bar involving Meath in the 1990s?
We do not speak of such a point in Mayoland.
I was thinking 1987 semi final in response to the McEneaney comparison.
You're right Muppet, Larry Tomkins get the draw for Cork in 1987. it was a last ditch free kick from way past the 50yd line.
He must have noted McEneaney's line a couple of years previous..
For THA free kick by Maurice in 2001 - no argument. It showed the complete footballer. He kicked for a similar position in the 97 AIF against Mayo with the left foot. Best goal for me was him against Armagh in the 2000 semi final replay - soloed with the right, drop kicked (me jesus) with the left. GENUIS
Quote from: Frank Casey on June 12, 2009, 07:32:29 PM
For THA free kick by Maurice in 2001 - no argument. It showed the complete footballer. He kicked for a similar position in the 97 AIF against Mayo with the left foot. Best goal for me was him against Armagh in the 2000 semi final replay - soloed with the right, drop kicked (me jesus) with the left. GENUIS
See all three http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFJVotAoNk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFJVotAoNk&feature=related)
The kick against Mayo was with his right though he did score a 20 metre free from near the sideline, off the ground, with his left in the first half.
Barden's point agin Wexford too was special. I remember Tony Davis on Da Sundah Game almost melting looking at it in replay.
And it was special - Jazes the rain was shocking that day. Meself and Auld Shamrock were soaked.
But for sheer WTF :o and the applause of the Down supporters around me and the warm 'I was there' feeling it gave us, Paul's point against Down will never be topped (in my opinion)
When I watched that link above 2 things:
Maurice point is probably the best free kick or line ball I have seen but it isnt within a hounds goul of the top 3 points I have seen on a gaelic football field, thats no disrespect to the great man it is a placed kick and he had time to compose himself regardless of carr. He had a punt and Id say a good placekicker would hit 5 out of 10 of them if they had to go for it. Gooche point last week was a much superior score for example.
secondly at 1 30 mins in the Aussi rules fight video that is offered after the maurice shrine K Mc Donald walks away watching an Irish man getting hammered on the ground...
Quote from: rrhf on June 13, 2009, 11:01:55 AM
When I watched that link above 2 things:
Maurice point is probably the best free kick or line ball I have seen but it isnt within a hounds goul of the top 3 points I have seen on a gaelic football field, thats no disrespect to the great man it is a placed kick and he had time to compose himself regardless of carr. He had a punt and Id say a good placekicker would hit 5 out of 10 of them if they had to go for it. Gooche point last week was a much superior score for example.
secondly at 1 30 mins in the Aussi rules fight video that is offered after the maurice shrine K Mc Donald walks away watching an Irish man getting hammered on the ground...
So your point on the Greatest Point thread is that K McD is a coward. And of course you say this anonymously.
You ignore of course that McDonald had 3 Australians on top of him punching the head off him at the start of that game. Good man. Heroic stuff.
Come on, where did I say that in my observation Muppet, undoubtedly its a snapshop and possibly out of context. Ill ask you your opinion if you wish, and Ill reserve mine if thats ok.
Quote from: rrhf on June 13, 2009, 11:01:55 AM
When I watched that link above 2 things:
Maurice point is probably the best free kick or line ball I have seen but it isnt within a hounds goul of the top 3 points I have seen on a gaelic football field, thats no disrespect to the great man it is a placed kick and he had time to compose himself regardless of carr. He had a punt and Id say a good placekicker would hit 5 out of 10 of them if they had to go for it. Gooche point last week was a much superior score for example.
secondly at 1 30 mins in the Aussi rules fight video that is offered after the maurice shrine K Mc Donald walks away watching an Irish man getting hammered on the ground...
A good placekicker wouldn't have scored it- I'd put a mortgage on it. And I'd go as far to say at that time there wasn't a player in the country who would have had the range to kick that under that sort of pressure. That is fully 55-60 yards into a crossbreeze- I was behind that goal. Never seen anything like it since.
I watched it live on TV and dont get me wrong it was an outstanding placed kick, and so was mc enaneys and much less so Canavans against Armagh(not in the same ballpark) but to me what Gooch done last weekend showed much more Gaeliic Football skill and instinct in an impossible environment getting aggressively and legitimately tackled wheras Maurice had the chance to compose himself, and have a go. Much in the same way O Gara /Wilkinson / Barry Hall or Ronaldo might have a go. Free takers are "paid" to take frees - thats what they do and practice till the cows come home. Gooch had to invent and create every aspect of his point, in fact Maurice who was one of the greatest ever in my opinion scored bucket loads of points better than that.
Quote from: rrhf on June 13, 2009, 11:46:46 AM
I watched it live on TV and dont get me wrong it was an outstanding placed kick, and so was mc enaneys and much less so Canavans against Armagh(not in the same ballpark) but to me what Gooch done last weekend showed much more Gaeliic Football skill and instinct in an impossible environment getting aggressively and legitimately tackled wheras Maurice had the chance to compose himself, and have a go. Much in the same way O Gara /Wilkinson / Barry Hall or Ronaldo might have a go. Free takers are "paid" to take frees - thats what they do and practice till the cows come home. Gooch had to invent and create every aspect of his point, in fact Maurice who was one of the greatest ever in my opinion scored bucket loads of points better than that.
We may have jokingly rubbished Canavan's against Armagh but that is because you would have bet your house on Canavan or for that matter Fitzgerald. There are many class players though who I wouldn't have put my house on. Poor Dessie Dolan famously missed an easier one.
You say a good place kicker would have scored it 5 out of 10. Maybe, but Fitzgerald only had one go, it was his first touch of the match and he had to score (not merely have a punt as you say). He kicked it from off the pitch, rather than stealing a few yards as most players will do (the ref had given a lot to Kerry towards the end of that game and he didn't want to risk being pulled for encroaching) and Semple is probably the widest pitch in the country. Notice that it goes over the black spot, just as Canavan's did against Armagh. I personally never doubted either of them.
1 min 30sec Mc Geeney gives the Aussie a nice rib tickler, f**k me :D
Muppet I remember watching a clip of a last second basketball 3 pointer where the guy hurled the ball from his own (box) and she swished the net to win the game. These things are worth a go and the better confident players who practised their lives for that moment actually make them from time to time. Maurice's Point showed that amongst the great place kickers crossing sporting disiplines he was as good as anyone in the world at their given sport. But gooches and Doohers showed what Gaelic football is all about. The last team to win an all ireland with nothing up front but a place kicker was Derry as far back as 1993. I think we are comparing 2 different type of point whether O neill likes it or not.
Instead of talking about points we might as well look at a few.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZctIwi0zJP0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZctIwi0zJP0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFK0UG2cF9E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFK0UG2cF9E)
Quote from: rrhf on June 13, 2009, 11:33:34 AM
Come on, where did I say that in my observation Muppet, undoubtedly its a snapshop and possibly out of context. Ill ask you your opinion if you wish, and Ill reserve mine if thats ok.
You mightn't have stated what muppett said rrhf but you definatley insinuated it .
This wasnt too bad from the wee man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvEoanY_BtY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvEoanY_BtY)
Or this 30 secs in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5UNswtGAw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5UNswtGAw)
No I simply noted what he actually did - I didnt criticise and qualified that by saying the context might offer an expalnation. Keiran Mc donald this afternoon sir is not in the dock, unless you mayo bies want to put him in there.
Quote from: rrhf on June 13, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
No I simply noted what he actually did - I didnt criticise and qualified that by saying the context might offer an expalnation. Keiran Mc donald this afternoon sir is not in the dock, unless you mayo bies want to put him in there.
fair enough :)
Why isn't this thread just called 'Great Points'
There's some f**king clinkers of scores
Quote from: rrhf on June 13, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
No I simply noted what he actually did - I didnt criticise and qualified that by saying the context might offer an expalnation. Keiran Mc donald this afternoon sir is not in the dock, unless you mayo bies want to put him in there.
you have the ability to suck the air right out of the room rrhf.
What the feck has mcdonalds actions got to do with the greatest points ever scored and do you really think bringing that sore subject up would not bring people into the mix that had the intellect to see things form a different perspective?
You put mcdonald in the dock by slabbering about something you didnt take the time to understand, the mayo men didnt do that, you did.
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on June 13, 2009, 01:14:08 PM
1 min 30sec Mc Geeney gives the Aussie a nice rib tickler, f**k me :D
Cracker, I felt it from here!
The man fairly put it up to them physically.
Every point scored by Canavan, ever, whether it be in his back yard from 3yards out or in Croke 60yards out, was the greatest score ever. All others are on a level below.
Quote from: Stalin on June 14, 2009, 06:39:38 PM
Every point scored by Canavan, ever, whether it be in his back yard from 3yards out or in Croke 60yards out, was the greatest score ever. All others are on a level below.
Great point.
I see what you did there.
A different angle on Ciarán McDonald's winning score against Dublin :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXTDurZCKI8
Stew - Mind yer own business.
MCGURK AGAINST DUBLIN 1993.
SWEET!
14th June 2009 - Ballybofey - Kevin O'Boyle...not bad for a corner back...and an Antrim player :o
I remember Francie Dolan from Ros getting some savage scores around 2005.
He kicked something outrageous like 11 points one evening against Offaly including on monster right on the right hand side sideline about 21 yards out. Difficult for a right footed kicker