Of course the attack was non sectarian at last night's Linfield/IFA V Cliftonville game at Windsor Park. It was one thug with an empty bottle >:(
What bottle? I seen no bottle! Must be a mirage or something Tony!
This has never happened before! ::)
Was at the match and can confirm that Eddie was hit by a bottle.
The ref was an absolute disgrace denying the Reds 2 if not 3 clear cut penalties, refusing to send off a Blues player even though he was last man back and fouled the Reds man at the edge of the peno box and got a yellow card!! Allowing the second linfield goal even though the corner was taken before he blew the whistle and allowing play to proceed after a linfield player came back onto the pitch even though the ref didn't whistle, the Reds players stopped playing during these incidents and linfield scored!
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 09:03:06 AM
Of course the attack was non sectarian at last night's Linfield/IFA V Cliftonville game at Windsor Park. It was one thug with an empty bottle >:(
"It was just one idiot in the crowd," said Lawlor, who was uninjured. (i.e. the Cliftonville official who was hit) But i'm sure you were there and know better.
What does it matter whether it was 'sectarian' or not? It
was a thug. I wouldn't get too upset about it.
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 09:03:06 AM
Of course the attack was non sectarian at last night's Linfield/IFA V Cliftonville game at Windsor Park. It was one thug with an empty bottle >:(
Are you sure maybe a Tadgh just wanted to bottle a prod and so went too the game ::)
Whoever threw it just is as big a p***k as the Cliftonville fan that threw the firework at the Linfield player earlier this season.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 14, 2009, 10:23:45 AM
Whoever threw it just is as big a p***k as the Cliftonville fan that threw the firework at the Linfield player earlier this season.
Yes - all idiots, and i'm sure 'T Fearon' started a thread on that one too, complete with little angry face. Or maybe not.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 14, 2009, 10:14:18 AM
Was at the match and can confirm that Eddie was hit by a bottle.
The ref was an absolute disgrace denying the Reds 2 if not 3 clear cut penalties, refusing to send off a Blues player even though he was last man back and fouled the Reds man at the edge of the peno box and got a yellow card!! Allowing the second linfield goal even though the corner was taken before he blew the whistle and allowing play to proceed after a linfield player came back onto the pitch even though the ref didn't whistle, the Reds players stopped playing during these incidents and linfield scored!
I was at the match too, and I couldn't believe the decisions made by the referee. Cliftonville deserved at least a draw.
Surely anybody that attends this dirge needs their head seriously examined.
What is a Linfield/IFA thug exactly?
Had a search there and nothing from Fearon when a Linfield player got hit with a rocket last time out. Launched by a Cliftonville/IFA thug no doubt.
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on January 14, 2009, 10:44:05 AM
Surely anybody that attends this dirge needs their head seriously examined.
Indeed. It was my first time in Windsor Park since Ireland played OWC back in the 80's, and my first Irish League match in the same timeframe. Ahem.... very disappointed in the lack of RA songs and stampedes/beatings by the RUC, lol. Ah the good old days.
Surely now with a violent incident or incident that occurs at practically every single game there, the authorities should abandon any delusion that Windsor Park can be transformed into a family friendly sporting stadium
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Surely now with a violent incident or incident that occurs at practically every single game there, the authorities should abandon any delusion that Windsor Park can be transformed into a family friendly sporting stadium
No chance you are getting away with this polemic. Answer the questions. What is a "Linfield/IFA Thug" and why are you applying a double standard? No threads on the Cliftonville fan who launched a rocket.
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Surely now with a violent incident or incident that occurs at practically every single game there, the authorities should abandon any delusion that Windsor Park can be transformed into a family friendly sporting stadium
No chance you are getting away with this polemic. Answer the questions. What is a "Linfield/IFA Thug" and why are you applying a double standard? No threads on the Cliftonville fan who launched a rocket.
The Linfield player that got hit was Catholic, so it wasn't sectarian :P
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 14, 2009, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Surely now with a violent incident or incident that occurs at practically every single game there, the authorities should abandon any delusion that Windsor Park can be transformed into a family friendly sporting stadium
No chance you are getting away with this polemic. Answer the questions. What is a "Linfield/IFA Thug" and why are you applying a double standard? No threads on the Cliftonville fan who launched a rocket.
The Linfield player that got hit was Catholic, so it wasn't sectarian :P
Really?? He looked like a prod.
Quote from: SidelineKick on January 14, 2009, 01:20:36 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 14, 2009, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Surely now with a violent incident or incident that occurs at practically every single game there, the authorities should abandon any delusion that Windsor Park can be transformed into a family friendly sporting stadium
No chance you are getting away with this polemic. Answer the questions. What is a "Linfield/IFA Thug" and why are you applying a double standard? No threads on the Cliftonville fan who launched a rocket.
The Linfield player that got hit was Catholic, so it wasn't sectarian :P
Really?? He looked like a prod.
Conor Hagan. Almost certain he is
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 14, 2009, 01:22:05 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on January 14, 2009, 01:20:36 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 14, 2009, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Surely now with a violent incident or incident that occurs at practically every single game there, the authorities should abandon any delusion that Windsor Park can be transformed into a family friendly sporting stadium
No chance you are getting away with this polemic. Answer the questions. What is a "Linfield/IFA Thug" and why are you applying a double standard? No threads on the Cliftonville fan who launched a rocket.
The Linfield player that got hit was Catholic, so it wasn't sectarian :P
Really?? He looked like a prod.
Conor Hagan. Almost certain he is
He is a Catholic, but has a head on him like a Prod.
Quote from: Gnevin on January 14, 2009, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 09:03:06 AM
Of course the attack was non sectarian at last night's Linfield/IFA V Cliftonville game at Windsor Park. It was one thug with an empty bottle >:(
Are you sure maybe a Tadgh just wanted to bottle a prod and so went too the game ::)
Gnevin, were you drunk when you posted this? ;)
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 10:55:44 AM
What is a Linfield/IFA thug exactly?
Had a search there and nothing from Fearon when a Linfield player got hit with a rocket last time out. Launched by a Cliftonville/IFA thug no doubt.
You didn't search too hard, did you? He didn't start a thread on it - but the big man did say it was deplorable (before reverting back to his usual schtick)
Quote from: T Fearon on November 07, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
Deplorable incident but only the latest in a long line of thuggery at Windsor Park. I witnessed Gerry Daly getting split by a bottle and Linfield/IFA getting off scot free, way back in 1979. Belfast Celtic were forced out of the league due to savage attacks on their players way back in the late 1940s. Linfield/IFA supporters threw hand grenades at Cliftonville fans back in the 90s etc.
The IFA's partisan espousal of unionism is a large factor in this and means that the facilitate tribal confrontation. Another reason why a new stadium at the Maze is needed and Linfield/Ifa need to be reined in after getting off scot free for decades. But then again they are the IFA's favourited and favoured club
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 10:55:44 AM
You didn't search too hard, did you? He didn't start a thread on it - but the big man did say it was deplorable (before reverting back to his usual schtick)
Must have missed the two words buried in the contrived blaming of Windsor Park itself.
I'm far from a fan of either the IFA or Linfield, but Fearon is getting tedious at this stage.
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 02:09:47 PM
I'm far from a fan of either the IFA or Linfield, but Fearon is getting tedious at this stage.
why ? because you dont like the truth ?
linfield are effectively the establishment, therefore ifa - though Tony links them even further !
as for stopping playing and conceding two goals - thats no excuse...sure yer taught to play until you hear the whistle!
it will be some craic when the all Ireland league starts, and we have sham-soccer rovers fans up fighting in belfast and throwing pigs heads , with the same kind of scum trapsing down from there to riot on our streets against our local scumbags (rovers fans)
it will be interesting to see how utv live/ bbc newsline cover this as when the firework hit the linfield player it was the top story with hagan in the studio doing an interview on utv
also i remember alan snoddy abandoning a game when a plastic bottle was thrown on from the cville end years ago
the crowd trouble between linfield and the glens on boxing day wasnt reported on much, i didnt see any footage on local news
wud hav been a lot different if it had been a row at a gaa match
Quote from: Clown on January 14, 2009, 04:01:26 PM
it will be interesting to see how utv live/ bbc newsline cover this as when the firework hit the linfield player it was the top story with hagan in the studio doing an interview on utv
also i remember alan snoddy abandoning a game when a plastic bottle was thrown on from the cville end years ago
the crowd trouble between linfield and the glens on boxing day wasnt reported on much, i didnt see any footage on local news
wud hav been a lot different if it had been a row at a gaa match
Top story on BBC Sport online (NI).
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 10:55:44 AM
What is a Linfield/IFA thug exactly?
Had a search there and nothing from Fearon when a Linfield player got hit with a rocket last time out. Launched by a Cliftonville/IFA thug no doubt.
You didn't search too hard, did you? He didn't start a thread on it - but the big man did say it was deplorable (before reverting back to his usual schtick)
Quote from: T Fearon on November 07, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
Deplorable incident but only the latest in a long line of thuggery at Windsor Park. I witnessed Gerry Daly getting split by a bottle and Linfield/IFA getting off scot free, way back in 1979. Belfast Celtic were forced out of the league due to savage attacks on their players way back in the late 1940s. Linfield/IFA supporters threw hand grenades at Cliftonville fans back in the 90s etc.
The IFA's partisan espousal of unionism is a large factor in this and means that the facilitate tribal confrontation. Another reason why a new stadium at the Maze is needed and Linfield/Ifa need to be reined in after getting off scot free for decades. But then again they are the IFA's favourited and favoured club
I was standing on the Kop that night when the blast bomb was thrown. The Cliftonville supporters all around me started cheering, because they thought it was an attack on the RUC. At the end of the match we were all funnelled out along the side of the Olympia Leisure Centre. A group of empty heads started lobbing rocks over the fence at the cars in the car park. An older man remonstrated with them and told them to stop trying to damage other people's property. 'It's Orange property', one of the yobs told him, and continued chucking. But that probably wasn't sectarian. Maybe he just didn't like brightly coloured cars...
Quote from: Myles Na G. on January 14, 2009, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 10:55:44 AM
What is a Linfield/IFA thug exactly?
Had a search there and nothing from Fearon when a Linfield player got hit with a rocket last time out. Launched by a Cliftonville/IFA thug no doubt.
You didn't search too hard, did you? He didn't start a thread on it - but the big man did say it was deplorable (before reverting back to his usual schtick)
Quote from: T Fearon on November 07, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
Deplorable incident but only the latest in a long line of thuggery at Windsor Park. I witnessed Gerry Daly getting split by a bottle and Linfield/IFA getting off scot free, way back in 1979. Belfast Celtic were forced out of the league due to savage attacks on their players way back in the late 1940s. Linfield/IFA supporters threw hand grenades at Cliftonville fans back in the 90s etc.
The IFA's partisan espousal of unionism is a large factor in this and means that the facilitate tribal confrontation. Another reason why a new stadium at the Maze is needed and Linfield/Ifa need to be reined in after getting off scot free for decades. But then again they are the IFA's favourited and favoured club
I was standing on the Kop that night when the blast bomb was thrown. The Cliftonville supporters all around me started cheering, because they thought it was an attack on the RUC. At the end of the match we were all funnelled out along the side of the Olympia Leisure Centre. A group of empty heads started lobbing rocks over the fence at the cars in the car park. An older man remonstrated with them and told them to stop trying to damage other people's property. 'It's Orange property', one of the yobs told him, and continued chucking. But that probably wasn't sectarian. Maybe he just didn't like brightly coloured cars...
That is possibly the biggest porkie pie from you yet Myles, keep them up though, very entertaining
Quote from: Orior on January 14, 2009, 11:03:27 AM
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on January 14, 2009, 10:44:05 AM
Surely anybody that attends this dirge needs their head seriously examined.
Indeed. It was my first time in Windsor Park since Ireland played OWC back in the 80's, and my first Irish League match in the same timeframe. Ahem.... very disappointed in the lack of RA songs and stampedes/beatings by the RUC, lol. Ah the good old days.
Orior, how many would you estimate were at last night's "big" game?
I was reading there that the average attendance for games in this league are about 850 people
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 14, 2009, 03:40:37 PM
why ? because you dont like the truth ?
linfield are effectively the establishment, therefore ifa - though Tony links them even further !
Effectively? Are they not suing each other over the Windsor Park lease? Saying that an "IFA thug" threw a bottle is infantile.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 14, 2009, 03:40:37 PMas for stopping playing and conceding two goals - thats no excuse...sure yer taught to play until you hear the whistle!
Agreed. Irrelevent, but 100% right.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 14, 2009, 03:40:37 PMit will be some craic when the all Ireland league starts, and we have sham-soccer rovers fans up fighting in belfast and throwing pigs heads , with the same kind of scum trapsing down from there to riot on our streets against our local scumbags (rovers fans)
You are aware of the existance of the Setanta Cup, which has been almost entirely trouble free for the 7 or 8 years its on the go?
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 14, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Surely now with a violent incident or incident that occurs at practically every single game there, the authorities should abandon any delusion that Windsor Park can be transformed into a family friendly sporting stadium
No chance you are getting away with this polemic. Answer the questions. What is a "Linfield/IFA Thug" and why are you applying a double standard? No threads on the Cliftonville fan who launched a rocket.
Thank God we've got you hear dublinfella to right all wrongs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYpBoYa4pno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYpBoYa4pno)
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 04:27:23 PMYou are aware of the existance of the Setanta Cup, which has been almost entirely trouble free for the 7 or 8 years its on the go?
4 years - and it's had it's fair share of trouble
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 14, 2009, 03:40:37 PM
why ? because you dont like the truth ?
linfield are effectively the establishment, therefore ifa - though Tony links them even further !
Effectively? Are they not suing each other over the Windsor Park lease? Saying that an "IFA thug" threw a bottle is infantile.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 14, 2009, 03:40:37 PMas for stopping playing and conceding two goals - thats no excuse...sure yer taught to play until you hear the whistle!
Agreed. Irrelevent, but 100% right.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 14, 2009, 03:40:37 PMit will be some craic when the all Ireland league starts, and we have sham-soccer rovers fans up fighting in belfast and throwing pigs heads , with the same kind of scum trapsing down from there to riot on our streets against our local scumbags (rovers fans)
You are aware of the existance of the Setanta Cup, which has been almost entirely trouble free for the 7 or 8 years its on the go?
theres plenty about either side that you know even less than I do
I suggest you read mor of what Tony says (it might be a tad hyped up but its close enough to the truth).
think you are looking away from the sc**bag element when you are wearing your sham-tinted glasses !
Setanta cup is a starting point that has had plenty of violence and will get worse when the lower soci-classes start following their teams north and south of the border on a more regular basis !
Soccer in the north is in serious need of a complete overhaul from top down.
For too long incidents like these have went unnoticed, with little if any reprecussions for the offending club.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 14, 2009, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on January 14, 2009, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 14, 2009, 10:55:44 AM
What is a Linfield/IFA thug exactly?
Had a search there and nothing from Fearon when a Linfield player got hit with a rocket last time out. Launched by a Cliftonville/IFA thug no doubt.
You didn't search too hard, did you? He didn't start a thread on it - but the big man did say it was deplorable (before reverting back to his usual schtick)
Quote from: T Fearon on November 07, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
Deplorable incident but only the latest in a long line of thuggery at Windsor Park. I witnessed Gerry Daly getting split by a bottle and Linfield/IFA getting off scot free, way back in 1979. Belfast Celtic were forced out of the league due to savage attacks on their players way back in the late 1940s. Linfield/IFA supporters threw hand grenades at Cliftonville fans back in the 90s etc.
The IFA's partisan espousal of unionism is a large factor in this and means that the facilitate tribal confrontation. Another reason why a new stadium at the Maze is needed and Linfield/Ifa need to be reined in after getting off scot free for decades. But then again they are the IFA's favourited and favoured club
I was standing on the Kop that night when the blast bomb was thrown. The Cliftonville supporters all around me started cheering, because they thought it was an attack on the RUC. At the end of the match we were all funnelled out along the side of the Olympia Leisure Centre. A group of empty heads started lobbing rocks over the fence at the cars in the car park. An older man remonstrated with them and told them to stop trying to damage other people's property. 'It's Orange property', one of the yobs told him, and continued chucking. But that probably wasn't sectarian. Maybe he just didn't like brightly coloured cars...
That is possibly the biggest porkie pie from you yet Myles, keep them up though, very entertaining
And you base that comment on what, exactly?
Well your user name itself is a famous pseudonym from someone world famous for fictional comic stories and you are following a similar vein on here, so that kind of gave it away. Keep it up though as you are giving me a chuckle.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 14, 2009, 08:11:35 PM
Well your user name itself is a famous pseudonym from someone world famous for fictional comic stories and you are following a similar vein on here, so that kind of gave it away. Keep it up though as you are giving me a chuckle.
Good spot on the username, but otherwise you're way off the mark. I went to a handful of Cliftonville matches each year for 3 or 4 seasons around that time, as a mate of mine was playing for them. The match with the blast bomb was one. Another was the home match against Portadown which had to be abandoned after fans started a riot.
Quote from: Clown on January 14, 2009, 04:01:26 PM
it will be interesting to see how utv live/ bbc newsline cover this as when the firework hit the linfield player it was the top story with hagan in the studio doing an interview on utv
also i remember alan snoddy abandoning a game when a plastic bottle was thrown on from the cville end years ago
the crowd trouble between linfield and the glens on boxing day wasnt reported on much, i didnt see any footage on local news
wud hav been a lot different if it had been a row at a gaa match
Which game was it that a fan came on the field and kicked a player - I'm guessing it was Linfield vs Belfast Celtic but I could be very wrong, I think it was around the early-mid 90's.
I don't even think that game was abandoned.
Quote from: carribbear on January 14, 2009, 08:32:31 PM
Which game was it that a fan came on the field and kicked a player - I'm guessing it was Linfield vs Belfast Celtic but I could be very wrong, I think it was around the early-mid 90's.
I don't even think that game was abandoned.
Belfast Celtic ...1990s ???
I think Tony will soon point out that this club was driven out of existence by Linfield/IFA in the 1950s. ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on January 14, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 14, 2009, 08:32:31 PM
Which game was it that a fan came on the field and kicked a player - I'm guessing it was Linfield vs Belfast Celtic but I could be very wrong, I think it was around the early-mid 90's.
I don't even think that game was abandoned.
Belfast Celtic ...1990s ???
I think Tony will soon point out that this club was driven out of existence by Linfield/IFA in the 1950s. ;D
Sorry - It was a while ago, I don't follow that league so you'll have to forgive me on the name, probably was Donegal Celtic. I just remember watching the incident on UTV. Fan jumps onto the field, kicks the player and then disappears back into the crowd, helped by his fellow supporters to hide.
That incident rings a bell alright.
I dont follow soccer in any of its forms but that was on news reports all over the place at the time.
Quote from: Doogie Browser on January 14, 2009, 08:11:35 PM
Well your user name itself is a famous pseudonym from someone world famous for fictional comic stories and you are following a similar vein on here, so that kind of gave it away. Keep it up though as you are giving me a chuckle.
Whos this?
He was a satirist for the Irish times back in the 50's and 60's
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 10:14:45 PM
He was a satirist for the Irish times back in the 50's and 60's
And an exceptionally funny one.
Flann O'Brien, aka Myles na Gopaleen
A pint of plain is your only man.
When money's tight and hard to get
And your horse has also ran,
When all you have is a heap of debt -
A pint of plain is your only man.
And what about The Brother?
Rather tame by the Linfield fans .. in comparison..
http://www.belfastmedia.com/soccer_article.php?ID=622
It now transpires that Cliftonville players (including the manager's son) were attacked as they made their way to their cars after the game by stick wielding Linfield/IFA thugs >:(
This is outrageous. This shithole should be razed to the ground rather than redeveloped
Quote from: T Fearon on January 15, 2009, 08:58:30 AM
It now transpires that Cliftonville players (including the manager's son) were attacked as they made their way to their cars after the game by stick wielding Linfield/IFA thugs >:(
This is outrageous. This shithole should be razed to the ground rather than redeveloped
Again, what is the link between some scamps who follow Linfield misbehaving and you talking about "IFA Thugs"?
I have never seen you refer to "Cliftonville/IFA thugs". Why not?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
4 years - and it's had it's fair share of trouble
For example?
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
4 years - and it's had it's fair share of trouble
For example?
FFS
even I can rem the news on a couple of them
scum rovers v linfield (/ifa)
and derry city v linfield , linield v derry city
::)
but soccer and setanta cup has NEVER had any trouble
::) :D
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
4 years - and it's had it's fair share of trouble
For example?
(http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00178/violence_178696t.jpg)
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
4 years - and it's had it's fair share of trouble
For example?
FFS
even I can rem the news on a couple of them
scum rovers v linfield (/ifa)
and derry city v linfield , linield v derry city
::)
but soccer and setanta cup has NEVER had any trouble
::) :D
Shamrock Rovers have never qualified for the Setanta Cup. I call bullshit.
What trouble between Linfield and Derry?
Quote from: AFS on January 15, 2009, 10:21:03 AM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
4 years - and it's had it's fair share of trouble
For example?
(http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00178/violence_178696t.jpg)
Do I not recall something about an official copmplaint from St Pats about the Indo reporting of that incident, where it turns out the guy was blind drunk and fell over?
Dublinfella, you are obviously unaware of the inextricable links between Linfield and the IFA which sees Linfield get huge subventions from the IFA to fail to keep their stadium in an adequate state of repair, who fail to attract any sanctions for their misbehaving fans, not having to play at Solitude for thirty odd years even though it was Linfield/IFa hoodlums who caused the trouble in the first place, being allowed to operate a blatantly sectarian recruitment policy for decades, etc etc.
Also Belfast Celtic were forced out of the Irish League at the end of the 1940s due to a vicious attack on their players after a game at Windsor Park. Tuesday night is evidence that we have not moved on one iota and Linfield will escape punishment from their IFA allies
Quote from: T Fearon on January 15, 2009, 10:28:57 AM
Dublinfella, you are obviously unaware of the inextricable links between Linfield and the IFA which sees Linfield get huge subventions from the IFA to fail to keep their stadium in an adequate state of repair, who fail to attract any sanctions for their misbehaving fans, not having to play at Solitude for thirty odd years even though it was Linfield/IFa hoodlums who caused the trouble in the first place, being allowed to operate a blatantly sectarian recruitment policy for decades, etc etc.
Also Belfast Celtic were forced out of the Irish League at the end of the 1940s due to a vicious attack on their players after a game at Windsor Park. Tuesday night is evidence that we have not moved on one iota and Linfield will escape punishment from their IFA allies
I am fully aware of all that, but calling them "Linfield/IFA" thugs has eerie resonances of DUP'ers talking about "SF/IRA". Linfield fans acting the bollix is one thing, your attempts to somehow link them to IFA officials and policy is simply infantile. And entirely inconsistant as you don't seem to be anything like as troubled when the violence comes from nationalist fans.
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 14, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
4 years - and it's had it's fair share of trouble
For example?
FFS
even I can rem the news on a couple of them
scum rovers v linfield (/ifa)
and derry city v linfield , linield v derry city
::)
but soccer and setanta cup has NEVER had any trouble
::) :D
Shamrock Rovers have never qualified for the Setanta Cup. I call bullshit.
What trouble between Linfield and Derry?
if it wasnt rovers - i cant rem who the dublin club were involved then but there has been trouble
it speaks volumes that you cant 'remember' the violence after at least two derry v linfield games and I think there were problems with derry and glentoran
however the violence is not consigned alone to the six counties
there has been dublin clubs that have had bee involved
plus you have the domestic season violence to think about also
if you 'cant remember' ::)
google and check it out
see past those blinkers you have
also you might try to understand the link between ifa and linfield and that not because I used to kinda half like glentoran
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 10:55:19 AM
if it wasnt rovers - i cant rem who the dublin club were involved then but there has been trouble
it speaks volumes that you cant 'remember' the violence after at least two derry v linfield games and I think there were problems with derry and glentoran
however the violence is not consigned alone to the six counties
there has been dublin clubs that have had bee involved
plus you have the domestic season violence to think about also
if you 'cant remember' ::)
google and check it out
see past those blinkers you have
also you might try to understand the link between ifa and linfield and that not because I used to kinda half like glentoran
So you admit you were talking rubbish when you tried to claim Rovers and Linfield had trouble at a game that was never played?
You can't actually pinpoint any trouble between Linfield and Derry (A Linfield bus was attacked on the outskirts of County Derry for the record)
So now we are onto 'domestic season violence'. I wait with baited breath for actual examples.
Tired cliches and stereotypes LB.
I know full well what Linfield are and are not. I'm calling Fearon on his hysterical tone over the incident and asking why he only seems to be bothered when its der hun misbehaving.
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 11:01:44 AMTired cliches and stereotypes
that's an awful harsh thing to say about all your posts on here.
I can see why people ignore you on here now.
And for that reason ............ I'm out
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 11:01:44 AM
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You can't actually pinpoint any trouble between Linfield and Derry (A Linfield bus was attacked on the outskirts of County Derry for the record)
So now we are onto 'domestic season violence'. I wait with baited breath for actual examples.
Tired cliches and stereotypes LB.
I know full well what Linfield are and are not. I'm calling Fearon on his hysterical tone over the incident and asking why he only seems to be bothered when its der hun misbehaving.
A football fan would have to have their head in a cesspit not to hear of the violence at Derry/Linfield games.
The incidents at this game were well publicised
http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Linfield-yobs-spark-anger.4569533.jp (http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Linfield-yobs-spark-anger.4569533.jp)
Quote from: Main Street on January 15, 2009, 12:32:13 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 11:01:44 AM
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You can't actually pinpoint any trouble between Linfield and Derry (A Linfield bus was attacked on the outskirts of County Derry for the record)
So now we are onto 'domestic season violence'. I wait with baited breath for actual examples.
Tired cliches and stereotypes LB.
I know full well what Linfield are and are not. I'm calling Fearon on his hysterical tone over the incident and asking why he only seems to be bothered when its der hun misbehaving.
A football fan would have to have their head in a cesspit not to hear of the violence at Derry/Linfield games.
The incidents at this game were well publicised
http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Linfield-yobs-spark-anger.4569533.jp (http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Linfield-yobs-spark-anger.4569533.jp)
thats it? one incident at one game?
but lynchboy said....
trouble at the first game in the competition's history
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/fai-derry-violence-wont-upset-setanta-cup-275639.html
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 12:44:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 15, 2009, 12:32:13 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 11:01:44 AM
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You can't actually pinpoint any trouble between Linfield and Derry (A Linfield bus was attacked on the outskirts of County Derry for the record)
So now we are onto 'domestic season violence'. I wait with baited breath for actual examples.
Tired cliches and stereotypes LB.
I know full well what Linfield are and are not. I'm calling Fearon on his hysterical tone over the incident and asking why he only seems to be bothered when its der hun misbehaving.
A football fan would have to have their head in a cesspit not to hear of the violence at Derry/Linfield games.
The incidents at this game were well publicised
http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Linfield-yobs-spark-anger.4569533.jp (http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Linfield-yobs-spark-anger.4569533.jp)
thats it? one incident at one game?
..
One incident? dropping an atomic bomb is one incident.
A crowd of youths throwing missiles/ sectarian abuse/ general provocative behaviour/ 3 arrests
amounts to exactly the type of violence at such games which were referred to in this thread.
This level of violence may not register high on your scales of football related violence.
BTW you requested a link to support a claim of crowd violence, you have got it now
any chance of a link to support your claims of a (phanthom) riot after a Dublin game ast croke Park.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 15, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
trouble at the first game in the competition's history
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/fai-derry-violence-wont-upset-setanta-cup-275639.html
Could you at least have the decency to read the link you posted?
That was a friendly game and the incident was a supporters coach attacked 50 miles east of Derry City.
You boys are seriously struggling. There is no culture of soccer hooliganism in Ireland and save for the odd incident at contentious Dublin and Belfast derbies and Linfield v Derry. You get more action down Sumerhill after a Dubs v Meath game.
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
There is no culture of soccer hooliganism in Ireland
Pardon me for butting in, but does the Glens & the Blues count here?
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM50 miles east of Derry City
Really - that would have them attacked just outside Antrim????
Quote from: Main Street on January 15, 2009, 01:01:28 PM
One incident? dropping an atomic bomb is one incident.
A crowd of youths throwing missiles/ sectarian abuse/ general provocative behaviour/ 3 arrests
amounts to exactly the type of violence at such games which were referred to in this thread.
This level of violence may not register high on your scales of football related violence.
BTW you requested a link to support a claim of crowd violence, you have got it now
any chance of a link to support your claims of a (phanthom) riot after a Dublin game ast croke Park.
We have gone from repeated incidents involving a club that has never even qualified for the tournament to one dust up. What happened at that game and immediatly after if was regrettible, but does not equate with the pitched cross border battles you have been claiming. Its a pathetic attempt at some form of sporting snobbery and I have no doubt you would take issue with the polemics on soccer forums about indiscipline and violence at GAA games - Wexford the latest high profile incident.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 15, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM50 miles east of Derry City
Really - that would have them attacked just outside Antrim????
correct, but you would know that had you bothered reading what you posted.....
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 15, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM50 miles east of Derry City
Really - that would have them attacked just outside Antrim????
correct, but you would know that had you bothered reading what you posted.....
Has to be on a wind up
I know you boys get lost if you have to travel outside the M50 - but even you can't be that stupid
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 15, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM50 miles east of Derry City
Really - that would have them attacked just outside Antrim????
correct, but you would know that had you bothered reading what you posted.....
Think you've lost the run of yourself...quit while your......emmm behind
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:07:45 PMWe have gone from repeated incidents involving a club that has never even qualified for the tournament to one dust up.[/quote]
You are conveniently forgetting this incident as well
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7349649.stm
but sure maybe they were all blind drunk and fell over ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: full back on January 15, 2009, 01:06:08 PM
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
There is no culture of soccer hooliganism in Ireland
Pardon me for butting in, but does the Glens & the Blues count here?
Bump for the wee fella from Dublin........
I've noticed he tends to disappear from time to time
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
There is no culture of soccer hooliganism in Ireland and save for the odd incident at contentious Dublin and Belfast derbies and Linfield v Derry. You get more action down Sumerhill after a Dubs v Meath game.
Care to elaborate?
Bit of a statement to throw up without any explanation. Especially considering your claims re the riot involving Dublin fans months back. At the time you couldnt provide any links, then when asked about it months later you had the cheek to claim "it was all over the papers at the time".
Lets put it like you might, link please?
you'll not get an answer lads - I wouldn't even bother trying
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 15, 2009, 01:53:44 PM
you'll not get an answer lads - I wouldn't even bother trying
I've asked him a few times to back up the riot claims. Each time he doesnt reply, dissappears for a few weeks, comes back and spreads the same lies with no backup.
Maybe dublinfella got distracted by the ad. on the bottom of page 5 for gaythugdating.com ;D ;D
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 15, 2009, 01:01:28 PM
One incident? dropping an atomic bomb is one incident.
A crowd of youths throwing missiles/ sectarian abuse/ general provocative behaviour/ 3 arrests
amounts to exactly the type of violence at such games which were referred to in this thread.
This level of violence may not register high on your scales of football related violence.
BTW you requested a link to support a claim of crowd violence, you have got it now
any chance of a link to support your claims of a (phanthom) riot after a Dublin game ast croke Park.
We have gone from repeated incidents involving a club that has never even qualified for the tournament to one dust up. What happened at that game and immediatly after if was regrettible, but does not equate with the pitched cross border battles you have been claiming. Its a pathetic attempt at some form of sporting snobbery and I have no doubt you would take issue with the polemics on soccer forums about indiscipline and violence at GAA games - Wexford the latest high profile incident.
Not quite the spin you offer.
You asked specifically and with a deal of arrogance for a link to Derry City / Linfield crowd violence.
I gave you the link to incidents of substantial enough violence.
You once claimed to witness violence after a Croke Park match by GAA fans, you never provided a link to this incident although you claimed at the time that it was reported somewhere.
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/ProPalestinian-Tshirt-condemned.4877931.jp
Quote from: bingobus on January 15, 2009, 01:55:43 PM
Maybe dublinfella got distracted by the ad. on the bottom of page 5 for gaythugdating.com ;D ;D
it's at the top of this page too :D
Quote from: dublinfella on January 15, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 15, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
trouble at the first game in the competition's history
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/fai-derry-violence-wont-upset-setanta-cup-275639.html
Could you at least have the decency to read the link you posted?
That was a friendly game and the incident was a supporters coach attacked 50 miles east of Derry City.
You boys are seriously struggling. There is no culture of soccer hooliganism in Ireland and save for the odd incident at contentious Dublin and Belfast derbies and Linfield v Derry. You get more action down Sumerhill after a Dubs v Meath game.
of for gawds sake cop on and grow up
when yer wrong admit yer wrong
there is soccer violence - esp in eircom league
rovers fans and pretty much everyone else
this I know having met a few 'supporters' over at a Cletic game (I am sad to say) and they were telling me of the fights they had around the country. Maybe it was made up bravado, but theres no denying the 'pigs head' incident and a few others which causes the gardai to be out in force (costing the taxpayer a small fortune) every time rovers play somewhre.
so thats 'no culture of hooliganism in Ireland' myth destroyed straight off.
if you cant accpet that there has been incidents of violence at/after setanta cup games then you are a liar and wont ever want to acknowledge the truth.
As for the wexford incident, those two lads have got bans of a year - which I think should be more.
But we have likewise week in week out in the leinster junior counties leagues, kildare leagues and whatever league jobstown fc play in.
I have played in these leagues and against jobstown....in case you ask !
What are the odds Lynchboy, that you actually played against Dublinfella's club, even Dublinfella himself ?
QuoteThere is no culture of soccer hooliganism in Ireland
Sorry, I just want to reply to this quote by yourself dublinfella. I used to go to quite a bit of League of Ireland soccer, Limerick FC/37, Athlone Town, Shels, even an odd Bray game on quiet Sundays in Dublin. It depends on what you define as a culture.
I have also been at several Dublin derbies including Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians, quite a few times. There's always been what I would term 'minor' incidents, and what others would call hooliganism.
However, one game in particular sticks in my mind. Rovers were away at Dalymount against Bohs, and myself and the girlfriend, now wife, toddled along for a gander. We were standing in the bit of stand/terrace behind the left goal if you were looking out of the main stand. All game there was scarf burning, flag burning etc by the lads in with us (Bohs fans) and by the Shamrock Rovers fans behind the other goal.
At the end of the game, both sets of fans were put out on the street behind Dalymount, if you know where I mean, and as we went out, all the Bohs fans were shouting stuff like 'it's on', 'straight into them' etc etc. When we went out, the Boh's fans charged down towards the end where the Rovers fans were, and the Rovers fans charged up to meet them. There was a pitched battle between them on the street, and it's one of the few times I actually felt frightened for myself and the girlfriend. We were scuttling between cars trying to get down to Doyles Corner (I think it's called) with sticks, stones and bottles flying around us.
Now I accept one major incident in a good few matches attended does not make a culture, but certainly the attitude of the fans there that day spoke volumes about their attitude to each other and violence. I've never seen anything remotely like it in 30+ years attending GAA games.
As I said, other incidents I've witnessed were far less severe, and usually involved a few lads throwing stones or the odd plastic bottle of piss at people, but that day certainly convinced me that the rivalry between Rovers and Bohs , at least, was not healthy.
I was looking for my 'riot' on Google because I am anticipating you looking for proof :D I entered Shamrock Rovers Bohemians Riots, and this is one of the first articles I saw. It's not the one I mentioned, as my 'incident' was back in 1996 or 1997 I'd say. (Can't remember to be honest). This looks as if it wasn't a once off though.
Phibsboro "riot" organised on internet – report
QuoteApril 20, 2004
The unsavoury incidents which took place on the streets of Phibsboro before last Friday's Dublin derby between Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers were organised on the internet, a newspaper report has claimed today (Tuesday).
A front-page report in the Evening Herald newspaper claims that hardline supporters of the clubs involved, known as Casuals and Ultras, organised the confrontation in internet chatrooms earlier in the week.
The report goes on to say that leaders of the various gangs made contact with one another via mobile phones at approximately 7pm last Friday evening to confirm their pre-meditated battle on the city's early evening streets.
It is also alleged that the Shamrock Rovers ultras have growing links with hooligan elements across the continent, including notoriously violent groups in Greece, Sweden and Germany.
And again from 2006. Still can't find mine, so I must have made it up :D
QuoteRovers and Bohs fans in melee FIVE people were arrested after a mini-riot between fans from Shamrock Rovers and Bohemians near a popular GAA pub in Dublin on Friday night.
During the melee near the Hill 16 pub on Gardiner Street, about 30 soccer supporters threw bricks, bottles and kegs at each other. The clash occurred in the run-up to the third round of the Carlsberg Cup at Tolka Park.
Onlookers watched in horror as the riot broke out when a contingent of about 30 Shamrock Rovers fans fought with Bohemians supporters standing outside the pub shortly after 7pm. The Rovers fans had been travelling on a bus to Tolka Park when they spotted the small group of Bohs fans outside Hill 16.
And from 2007. I've just realised that I can't find mine because there have been too many others..
QuoteIn the current season there have been serious clashes between rival gangs at the Bohemians-Shamrock Rovers game at Dalymount Park. The garda was so concerned about trouble before, during and after the game that it deployed as many officers around the stadium as it did at the All-Ireland Gaelic football final. There were more than 80,000 spectators at the All-Ireland final compared with just 3,500 at the Bohemians-Shamrock Rovers game.
Another measure of the rise in hooliganism is the policing of the main Jodi Stand in Dalymount Park. Four years ago there were only two gardai on duty to police the crowd in that section of the ground; this season there is now regularly a full line of gardai down one aisle to segregate the away supporters from the home fans.
I was at a Bohs-Rovers cup match (could have been a replay) in the RDS in 1992/93 and it was dog-rough. I remember spending most of the match trying to avoid objects (bottles, cans and sticks) being flung over and back between 'supporters' in the stands. I didn't go to another League of Ireland encounter for another 5/6 years after that.
Why are there so many clashes between Shamrock Rvrs and Bohs fans?
I think I heard a while back that there were clubs in the RoI whose fans were classed as "West Brit". Is this true? ???
As an aside; any Drogs fans on this board? There's quite a good relationship between Portadown and Drogheda fans and, believe it or not, there were a number of them travelled from Drogheda to Ballyclare on Saturday to support the Pride of Mid-Ulster :)
Quote from: Tonto on January 15, 2009, 04:00:09 PM
Why are there so many clashes between Shamrock Rvrs and Bohs fans?
I think I heard a while back that there were clubs in the RoI whose fans were classed as "West Brit". Is this true? ???
As an aside; any Drogs fans on this board? There's quite a good relationship between Portadown and Drogheda fans and, believe it or not, there were a number of them travelled from Drogheda to Ballyclare on Saturday to support the Pride of Mid-Ulster :)
I don't know Tonto. I'm not big into the history or whatever of League of Ireland football, but I know that Bohs and Rovers is one of the big derbies. Perhaps it's just a by product of that?
As for Drogheda, myself and Boots, were in Dalymount a couple of years ago for the 13-12 penalty shootout loss to some Norwegian crowd in the UEFA cup. I don't thing that qualifies as a 'fan' though :D
:D
Well, maybe if you catch the bug in the future, I'll see you up at Shamrock Park some time to support the Ports against Cliftonville/ IRA IFA ;)
Quote from: Tonto on January 15, 2009, 04:00:09 PM
Why are there so many clashes between Shamrock Rvrs and Bohs fans?
I think I heard a while back that there were clubs in the RoI whose fans were classed as "West Brit". Is this true? ???
I believe Bohs had some connection or other (tenous or otherwise) to the British state apparatus in Ireland around the time of their formation so sometimes get mocked about this by Rovers fans. Obviously this is long since past and has no relevance these days but football fans have long memories obviously.
QuoteAs for Drogheda, myself and Boots, were in Dalymount a couple of years ago for the 13-12 penalty shootout loss to some Norwegian crowd in the UEFA cup. I don't thing that qualifies as a 'fan' though
It was IK Start FC, managed by Stig Inge Bjornbye, if any of youse Scousers remember him ... :P
Quote from: Tonto on January 15, 2009, 04:07:42 PM
:D
Well, maybe if you catch the bug in the future, I'll see you up at Shamrock Park some time to support the Ports against Cliftonville/ IRA IFA ;)
Now Tonto you know rightly that that can't happen until Portadown get promoted!! ;)
Btw looking like a dogfight between Ports and DC for the automatic promotion spot.
Yes and here's hoping the Celts make it ahead of the Brownstown Bigots ;)
think AZ has caused roversfella to flee with a flea in his ear !
:D
The Dublin Bohs Rovers hostility must a phenomena of recent decades because Bohs were literly a non entity, competition wise, for years before they turned professional.
I think Shelbourne and Rovers have a deeper hostility.
Strange enough, as a kid I went to many games at Milltown in the late 60´s early 70´s
Probably I witnessed one of the first the first outbreaks of what we now know to be as the modern type of crowd violence between football fans there and that was when Shelbourne came to visit Milltown.
As they looked to me then, that section of Shels fans were wannabee gurriers, Rovers fans (in the kop end) in general were of reasonable humour, vocal but not aggressive.
As was the tradition, at half time the Rovers fans made their exodus from behind the goal at the road end to go behind the goal at the other end. The Shels fans refused to move and started a violent confrontation. That was my Altamont.
I just couldn't understand then why people attending a sporting event could be so aggressive to each other.
Quote from: Main Street on January 15, 2009, 04:53:20 PM
The Dublin Bohs Rovers hostility must a phenomena of recent decades because Bohs were literly a non entity, competition wise, for years before they turned professional.
I think Shelbourne and Rovers have a deeper hostility.
Strange enough, as a kid I went to many games at Milltown in the late 60´s early 70´s
Probably I witnessed one of the first the first outbreaks of what we now know to be as the modern type of crowd violence between football fans there and that was when Shelbourne came to visit Milltown.
As they looked to me then, that section of Shels fans were wannabee gurriers, Rovers fans (in the kop end) in general were of reasonable humour, vocal but not aggressive.
As was the tradition, at half time the Rovers fans made their exodus from behind the goal at the road end to go behind the goal at the other end. The Shels fans refused to move and started a violent confrontation. That was my Altamont.
I just couldn't understand then why people attending a sporting event could be so aggressive to each other.
glad you posted that because to me the shels were always a bigger shower of knackers - akin to the rovers support.
there was def some 'tension' that I recall around the time and just before rovers were kicked out of milltown between them (ok and most others) but with shels in particular.
Never liked shels either, Bohs were always grand I thought.
still shite soccer tbh.
Quote from: Rossfan on January 14, 2009, 09:35:44 PM
That incident rings a bell alright.
I dont follow soccer in any of its forms but that was on news reports all over the place at the time.
Found this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ks-ZWJ8rSA
Funny how the
PSNI RUC only fired plastic bullets into one set of supporters
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4el3c4uuk (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4el3c4uuk)
Linfield get their flares on.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 15, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Tonto on January 15, 2009, 04:07:42 PM
:D
Well, maybe if you catch the bug in the future, I'll see you up at Shamrock Park some time to support the Ports against Cliftonville/ IRA IFA ;)
Now Tonto you know rightly that that can't happen until Portadown get promoted!! ;)
Btw looking like a dogfight between Ports and DC for the automatic promotion spot.
Na, I reckon we'll have it.
Of DCs 15 games played so far, 9 have been at home of which they have won all but away from home they have only took 7 points from a possible 18.
The Ports have only played 8 of 17 at home, so things are looking good.
And about DCs two games in hand? Well, it's true they could overtake us but only by 1 point, and a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as they say. :)
Edit: League table: http://www.portadownfc.co.uk/2008-09_league.htm (http://www.portadownfc.co.uk/2008-09_league.htm)
Quote from: Tonto on January 16, 2009, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 15, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Tonto on January 15, 2009, 04:07:42 PM
:D
Well, maybe if you catch the bug in the future, I'll see you up at Shamrock Park some time to support the Ports against Cliftonville/ IRA IFA ;)
Now Tonto you know rightly that that can't happen until Portadown get promoted!! ;)
Btw looking like a dogfight between Ports and DC for the automatic promotion spot.
Na, I reckon we'll have it.
Of DCs 15 games played so far, 9 have been at home of which they have won all but away from home they have only took 7 points from a possible 18.
The Ports have only played 8 of 17 at home, so things are looking good.
And about DCs two games in hand? Well, it's true they could overtake us but only by 1 point, and a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as they say. :)
Edit: League table: http://www.portadownfc.co.uk/2008-09_league.htm (http://www.portadownfc.co.uk/2008-09_league.htm)
Is it one up / one down? Initially it was said that there would be no promotion / relegation for a couple of seasons. Seems to have changed.
Is ther a play-off between second in Championship and second bottom of Premier League?
Yeah, there was chat of no promotion-relegation but AFAIK that would have ruled IL clubs out from qualifying for UEFA competitions (I know, probably not really a big deal) so now there is 1 automatic promotion place and 2nd in the Championship plays second bottom in the Premiership in a play-off.
Quote from: Tonto on January 16, 2009, 01:22:48 PM
Yeah, there was chat of no promotion-relegation but AFAIK that would have ruled IL clubs out from qualifying for UEFA competitions (I know, probably not really a big deal) so now there is 1 automatic promotion place and 2nd in the Championship plays second bottom in the Premiership in a play-off.
So thats DC up automatically and the Ports in a play-off. ;)
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 16, 2009, 01:34:21 PM
Quote from: Tonto on January 16, 2009, 01:22:48 PM
Yeah, there was chat of no promotion-relegation but AFAIK that would have ruled IL clubs out from qualifying for UEFA competitions (I know, probably not really a big deal) so now there is 1 automatic promotion place and 2nd in the Championship plays second bottom in the Premiership in a play-off.
So thats DC up automatically and the Ports in a play-off. ;)
We'll see ;)
IF the Ports were in a play-off there's a fair chance that we'd be playing Glenavon; now that really would get the blood pumping, if we were to play the Spademen in probably the biggest match we would ever have played!!
Really thought that Bangor would drop straight down.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 16, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
Really thought that Bangor would drop straight down.
I know, so did I - I HOPED they would too!
I thought that it was a real pity they got in because it certainly wasn't for success on the pitch they go into the league. How many years were they trying to get promoted and failed? ??? Must be at least a decade since they were in the Premier League? :-\