Man Utd Thread:

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Cunny Funt

Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 09, 2019, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 09, 2019, 09:21:41 AM
Quote from: Boycey on May 08, 2019, 06:43:13 PM
The price is 3billion, business men ain't buying at that price? They simply couldn't make money, even another leveraged buyout wouldn't be sustainable. The only alternatives are a vanity buyer or the current owners.

The six million dollar question is had United got Klopp or Guardiola would they be sitting pretty now or would they be exactly where they are? The easy answer is they'd be sitting pretty, I'm not sure..

You'll tell me this is pie in the sky but how many United supporters are there in the world? Surely you'd be able to get a million of them to throw in a few grand so that the club is forever run for only the game? Or a supporters fund supported by a few wealthy backers of like mind? I know the numbers are eye watering but it's the solution that is optimal. No one believed Ferguson would win 13 league titles and 2 European Cups and the rest in 1990 - we've seen impossible dreams come true with this club and in this sport all the time. Often what's "impossible" is only a limitation of the mind. I've said it years ago and still believe it - it's what every United supporter should be aiming for.

Not advocating for them because they're clearly not the nicest people either but I don't think Saudis would actually be worse owners than the Glazer scum because they'd want the club to win for prestige reasons. Same as the crowd who own city. They wouldn't be in it to milk cash out of it like the Glazer scumbags who couldn't care less if United never won another trophy.

It won't happen, too many so called fans groups mainly the new found social media d**kheads looking out for their interests and would have no issue in ricking the boat. Too many of the younger generation look up to clowns like Howson who's only out for himself.

I'd imagine the Saudi's will be sniffing around and the Galzers must be getting frustrated with missing out on CL yet again, I'd like to think their time is coming to and. Their a big part of why United are in this hole but United budget wise are well able to compete with Europe's top clubs which wasn't the case 10 years ago. I'd imagine between interest payments, dividends & director salaries to the Glazers there's probably circa £40m a year leaving the club which wouldn't happen under an owner like the Saudi's.

Goldbridge is another fella,  they are making big money off the United name with their youtube fan channels with betting companies sponsoring them. This current online campaign #unfollowmanunited will be total waste of time in my view.

Wildweasel74

You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 09, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

In fairness Manchester United earned the money they spent on players and recently they have paid over the odds on players and wages because clubs and player agents fooled a clueless chief Executive. Manchester City won the lotto with the prize money of a trillion.

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 09, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 09, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

In fairness Manchester United earned the money they spent on players and recently they have paid over the odds on players and wages because clubs and player agents fooled a clueless chief Executive. Manchester City won the lotto with the prize money of a trillion.

It's a fair point to be honest - what odds how you got the money? Professional Sport or Football isn't a game of morals - United had it relatively easy in the 90s too with their financial power.

screenexile

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 10, 2019, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 09, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 09, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

In fairness Manchester United earned the money they spent on players and recently they have paid over the odds on players and wages because clubs and player agents fooled a clueless chief Executive. Manchester City won the lotto with the prize money of a trillion.

It's a fair point to be honest - what odds how you got the money? Professional Sport or Football isn't a game of morals - United had it relatively easy in the 90s too with their financial power.

Totally agree having a shit ton of money means nothing if you don't have the right people in place to make it translate on the pitch. United can crow all they want about earning the money themselves but they have just as much money as City as evidenced by the Sanchez deal and they are where they are and City are where they are.

"Oh but City have no history" Yeah they were founded 2 years after Man United 140 years ago so that's bullshit as well. They're creating history now!!

toby47

United on the verge of completing their first transfer of the summer. Daniel James from Swansea - 15Mill

Maroon Manc

Fergie won the league with a bunch of kids after selling Hughes, Kanchelskis & Ince whilst when Benitez was at Liverpool there was that stat that Liverpool had outspent United in the premier league era.

City have thrown so much money at it since the new owners arrived and even Pep inherited Sterling, Aguero, De Bruyne, Fernandinho & Silva who are still 5 of his best front 6 and still spent £500m on top of that.

Looks like Herrera is gone judging by what Ole has said, its another stick to beat Woodward with; Did he actually think Herrera wouldn't get good offers from big clubs, he's clearly not a great player but he can do a job for a big club and is a model professional. Letting him run down his contract like that is ridiculous, could have easily have given him a new contract 18 months ago and then sold him should a new manager not wanted him. Woodward continues to be the biggest problem at club and will be until a director of football comes in, he's got to be under pressure from the Glazers at this stage. They must have paid out over £50m in sacking staff since Fergie left.




GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 10, 2019, 11:08:05 AM
Fergie won the league with a bunch of kids after selling Hughes, Kanchelskis & Ince whilst when Benitez was at Liverpool there was that stat that Liverpool had outspent United in the premier league era.

City have thrown so much money at it since the new owners arrived and even Pep inherited Sterling, Aguero, De Bruyne, Fernandinho & Silva who are still 5 of his best front 6 and still spent £500m on top of that.

Looks like Herrera is gone judging by what Ole has said, its another stick to beat Woodward with; Did he actually think Herrera wouldn't get good offers from big clubs, he's clearly not a great player but he can do a job for a big club and is a model professional. Letting him run down his contract like that is ridiculous, could have easily have given him a new contract 18 months ago and then sold him should a new manager not wanted him. Woodward continues to be the biggest problem at club and will be until a director of football comes in, he's got to be under pressure from the Glazers at this stage. They must have paid out over £50m in sacking staff since Fergie left.

Great point and one I agree with - I don't support United, but there can be little doubt that we all get seduced by the players who can do something flashy or 'look a player'. When a club starts to decline somewhat there is always a chorus for sign this player, sign that player...usually attacking players who've got a decent youtube compilation. What Ander Herrera brings to the table is something that should be an absolute minimum at Manchester United, intensity, heart, guts, pride. I've watched plenty of games where he played, he's a nasty little so and so....but one I think United will badly miss, he was always leading the fight in games v Liverpool, Chelsea, City etc.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 10, 2019, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 09, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 09, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

In fairness Manchester United earned the money they spent on players and recently they have paid over the odds on players and wages because clubs and player agents fooled a clueless chief Executive. Manchester City won the lotto with the prize money of a trillion.

It's a fair point to be honest - what odds how you got the money? Professional Sport or Football isn't a game of morals - United had it relatively easy in the 90s too with their financial power.

Its not a fair point when you consider Manchester United became the dominant force in England from the brilliance of Ferguson who had to build the club from the bottom up and a chairman having the patience to keep him on in the late 80s.

Where would Manchester City be without their trillionaire owners? certainly no Pep Guardiola.  As for history, 20 years ago when Manchester United was winning the treble their neighbours in the old main road stadium were battling it out with the likes of Colchester United,Chesterfield and Gillingham in England's 3rd tier division.

Kidder81

History and success are two different things, some people seem unable to grasp this.

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 10, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 10, 2019, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 09, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 09, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

In fairness Manchester United earned the money they spent on players and recently they have paid over the odds on players and wages because clubs and player agents fooled a clueless chief Executive. Manchester City won the lotto with the prize money of a trillion.

It's a fair point to be honest - what odds how you got the money? Professional Sport or Football isn't a game of morals - United had it relatively easy in the 90s too with their financial power.

Its not a fair point when you consider Manchester United became the dominant force in England from the brilliance of Ferguson who had to build the club from the bottom up and a chairman having the patience to keep him on in the late 80s.

Where would Manchester City be without their trillionaire owners? certainly no Pep Guardiola.  As for history, 20 years ago when Manchester United was winning the treble their neighbours in the old main road stadium were battling it out with the likes of Colchester United,Chesterfield and Gillingham in England's 3rd tier division.

I get your point. I understand your point. But again, what business is it of any other club how another is funded? What City have done isn't for everyone but your talking here like United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal.....aren't all owed by billionaires. Just because City's billionaires tend to not really worry about getting anything back out of their club.

mouview

Quote from: toby47 on May 10, 2019, 10:05:31 AM
United on the verge of completing their first transfer of the summer. Daniel James from Swansea - 15Mill

Jeez, thought you said David James there for a second....

screenexile

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 10, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 10, 2019, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 09, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 09, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

In fairness Manchester United earned the money they spent on players and recently they have paid over the odds on players and wages because clubs and player agents fooled a clueless chief Executive. Manchester City won the lotto with the prize money of a trillion.

It's a fair point to be honest - what odds how you got the money? Professional Sport or Football isn't a game of morals - United had it relatively easy in the 90s too with their financial power.

Its not a fair point when you consider Manchester United became the dominant force in England from the brilliance of Ferguson who had to build the club from the bottom up and a chairman having the patience to keep him on in the late 80s.

Where would Manchester City be without their trillionaire owners? certainly no Pep Guardiola.  As for history, 20 years ago when Manchester United was winning the treble their neighbours in the old main road stadium were battling it out with the likes of Colchester United,Chesterfield and Gillingham in England's 3rd tier division.

History is nonsense. . . Liverpool have loads of history which has counted for nought during the Premier League era.

City fans will be able to look back in 20 years time and laugh about how they were able to persuade the best coach in the world to win loads of titles with them while United jumped from Ferguson to mediocrity . . . Mourinho's second place last year looks like a minor miracle!!

History is over rated give me the present any time!!

trailer

Quote from: screenexile on May 10, 2019, 12:39:48 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 10, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 10, 2019, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 09, 2019, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 09, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
You been buying titles for years. You were nearly always in the top 3 buying players the years you won the league going bck to the start of the 90's. So don't kid yourself you's are any better than city.

In fairness Manchester United earned the money they spent on players and recently they have paid over the odds on players and wages because clubs and player agents fooled a clueless chief Executive. Manchester City won the lotto with the prize money of a trillion.

It's a fair point to be honest - what odds how you got the money? Professional Sport or Football isn't a game of morals - United had it relatively easy in the 90s too with their financial power.

Its not a fair point when you consider Manchester United became the dominant force in England from the brilliance of Ferguson who had to build the club from the bottom up and a chairman having the patience to keep him on in the late 80s.

Where would Manchester City be without their trillionaire owners? certainly no Pep Guardiola.  As for history, 20 years ago when Manchester United was winning the treble their neighbours in the old main road stadium were battling it out with the likes of Colchester United,Chesterfield and Gillingham in England's 3rd tier division.

History is nonsense. . . Liverpool have loads of history which has counted for nought during the Premier League era.

City fans will be able to look back in 20 years time and laugh about how they were able to persuade the best coach in the world to win loads of titles with them while United jumped from Ferguson to mediocrity . . . Mourinho's second place last year looks like a minor miracle!!

History is over rated give me the present any time!!

History matters when your team is shit. Hence Liverpool harping on about it. Utd now at the same carry on.