FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[rodney trotter]

Crete what you ignore every time you rhyme off these stats is that there is no current Irish player at a big club, or even on the radar of a big club.

Almost every Ireland team in history has had to carry a few journeymen. But to do that you need a few stars, and we don't have them. We dont even have reliable international players savs a few exceptions. It is EASILY the weakest crop of players available to a manager in the 25 years i've been able to form an opinion.

Oh and without meaning to sound like a nasty pedant, I have no doubt you appreciate it when others use paragraphs for long spiels of text, so good manners suggests you should too.

There aren't that many top English players in the big clubs these days either

Well that settles it - we might be crap but as long as England are nearly as equaly crap, dont worry!! This is the level of soccer debate that no doubt has its origin in Sky devotees.

I'd prefer to look at facts ...
there is no current Irish player at a big club, or even on the radar of a big club.


Says it all.

Yer man Brady is at Man United.

Connor Henderson from Arsenal, currently on loan at Coventry. Wenger rates him highly. Greg Cunningham was rated by Mancini but left as they spend huge money and had Glichy, Kolorov etc ahead of him

Shane Long is capable of playing for a team like Spurs.

[Jonah]

Seamus Coleman playing for Everton who are top 4 atm.
McGeady plays for a Champions League team.

[thewobbler]

Hahahaha there are some truly blinded thinkers on this thread.

Seamus Coleman plays for a club who will a) not finish in the top 6, and b) will seek their best players at the end of the season. They are not a big club.

Aiden McGeady went to Russia because no English club would take a risk on him. Let alone a big club.

Paul McShane and Pat McGibbon used to be on the books at Man Utd. Let's wait until Robbie Brady plays a few games before calling him a United player.

As for Conor whodafuck at Arsenal and Greg remembermyname formerly of City, this is plumbing a depth that can only result in a bathroom covered in excrement.

Shane Long is a better player than the lot of them put together and he plays for possibly the least fashionable club in the world.

Mad. Clean mad. Straw clutching. Mad.

[rodney trotter]

Hahahaha there are some truly blinded thinkers on this thread.

Seamus Coleman plays for a club who will a) not finish in the top 6, and b) will seek their best players at the end of the season. They are not a big club.

Aiden McGeady went to Russia because no English club would take a risk on him. Let alone a big club.

Paul McShane and Pat McGibbon used to be on the books at Man Utd. Let's wait until Robbie Brady plays a few games before calling him a United player.

As for Conor whodafuck at Arsenal and Greg remembermyname formerly of City, this is plumbing a depth that can only result in a bathroom covered in excrement.

Shane Long is a better player than the lot of them put together and he plays for possibly the least fashionable club in the world.

Mad. Clean mad. Straw clutching. Mad.

What was clean mad was you saying Robbie Keane should have been playing against Germany when he was injured (wtf) and dismissing playing Shane Long as a lone striker ahead of Robbie i had a brillant euro's Keane

Shane Long has pace to burn, how would Keane play that role

[thewobbler]

Oh and while it's got nothing to do with Irish football, here's bloody big England squad made up of only regulars for the top 4 clubs plus the European champions.

Hart; Cole, Walker, Terry, Lescott; Milner, Parker, Carrick, Young; Rooney, Defoe.
Xxx; Gibbs, Richards, Ferdinand, Cahill; Lennon, Wilshire, Lampard, Walcott. Sturridge, Welbeck.

Jones, Smalling, Cleverly. Caulker, Livermore. Bertrandt. Johnson, Rodwell, Barry. Oxlade Chamberlain.

Bar a shortage of keepers, it's not as glum as painted for our similalrly rather boring to watch neighbours.

[thewobbler]

Hahahaha there are some truly blinded thinkers on this thread.

Seamus Coleman plays for a club who will a) not finish in the top 6, and b) will seek their best players at the end of the season. They are not a big club.

Aiden McGeady went to Russia because no English club would take a risk on him. Let alone a big club.

Paul McShane and Pat McGibbon used to be on the books at Man Utd. Let's wait until Robbie Brady plays a few games before calling him a United player.

As for Conor whodafuck at Arsenal and Greg remembermyname formerly of City, this is plumbing a depth that can only result in a bathroom covered in excrement.

Shane Long is a better player than the lot of them put together and he plays for possibly the least fashionable club in the world.

Mad. Clean mad. Straw clutching. Mad.

What was clean mad was you saying Robbie Keane should have been playing against Germany when he was injured (wtf) and dismissing playing Shane Long as a lone striker ahead of Robbie i had a brillant euro's Keane

Shane Long has pace to burn, how would Keane play that role

What I actually said was more along the lines of "we haven't got a prayer of beating the Germans so we should put everyone behind the ball, and try to nick a winner". When Long has scored even 10 international goals you can maybe start writing off Keane.

[rodney trotter]

At least 11 or maybe more of that lis,t are not even regulars with their clubs. England have a huge pick compared to us, so that is irrelevant.

[rodney trotter]

Be hard for Shane Long to score any goal when he can't get a game.... or had you noticed

[J OGorman]

Oh and while it's got nothing to do with Irish football, here's bloody big England squad made up of only regulars for the top 4 clubs plus the European champions.

Hart; Cole, Walker, Terry, Lescott; Milner, Parker, Carrick, Young; Rooney, Defoe.
Xxx; Gibbs, Richards, Ferdinand, Cahill; Lennon, Wilshire, Lampard, Walcott. Sturridge, Welbeck.

Jones, Smalling, Cleverly. Caulker, Livermore. Bertrandt. Johnson, Rodwell, Barry. Oxlade Chamberlain.

Bar a shortage of keepers, it's not as glum as painted for our similalrly rather boring to watch neighbours.

Have a good look @ that squad. A plethora of average,over the hill, over rated players (and quite a few serial divers, but that's for another day)

[thewobbler]

At least 11 or maybe more of that lis,t are not even regulars with their clubs. England have a huge pick compared to us, so that is irrelevant.

Now which 11 would that be? Considering that Coleman and Clarke are deemed regulars by GAABoard, I don't see the holes here.

[rodney trotter]

At least 11 or maybe more of that lis,t are not even regulars with their clubs. England have a huge pick compared to us, so that is irrelevant.

Now which 11 would that be? Considering that Coleman and Clarke are deemed regulars by GAABoard, I don't see the holes here.

England has a population of over 50 million, with Soccer as the main Sport,I see it a big hole that they have so many limited players.. Coleman has been a regular this season with Everton and Clarke with Villa.

[thewobbler]

Interesting Rodney. I asked you name which 11 players aren't regulars. This was clear because you quoted me. I don't see how your response answers this?

[rodney trotter]

Oh and while it's got nothing to do with Irish football, here's bloody big England squad made up of only regulars for the top 4 clubs plus the European champions.

Hart; Cole, Walker, Terry, Lescott; Milner, Parker, Carrick, Young; Rooney, Defoe.
Xxx; Gibbs, Richards, Ferdinand, Cahill; Lennon, Wilshire, Lampard, Walcott. Sturridge, Welbeck.

Jones, Smalling, Cleverly. Caulker, Livermore. Bertrandt. Johnson, Rodwell, Barry. Oxlade Chamberlain.

Bar a shortage of keepers, it's not as glum as painted for our similalrly rather boring to watch neighbours.

Smalling is not a regular at Utd currently injured, Clererly either,good players nonetheless , Caulker and Livermore are not regulars at Spurs, Kyle Walker is, and you didn't mention him.. Bertrandt is not a regular at Chelsea, Rodwell is not a regular at City,Welbeck is not a regular at Utd, Sturridge is not a regular at Chelsea, Wilshire is only coming back from injury after being out for 9 months,

Ferdinand is no longer selected for international football and wasn't included in the Euro Squad. Terry retired from International football. Oxlade Chamberlain is only 18 and isn't a full regular yet... About 11 players or more...

[thewobbler]

Oh and while it's got nothing to do with Irish football, here's bloody big England squad made up of only regulars for the top 4 clubs plus the European champions.

Hart; Cole, Walker, Terry, Lescott; Milner, Parker, Carrick, Young; Rooney, Defoe.
Xxx; Gibbs, Richards, Ferdinand, Cahill; Lennon, Wilshire, Lampard, Walcott. Sturridge, Welbeck.

Jones, Smalling, Cleverly. Caulker, Livermore. Bertrandt. Johnson, Rodwell, Barry. Oxlade Chamberlain.

Bar a shortage of keepers, it's not as glum as painted for our similalrly rather boring to watch neighbours.

Smalling is not a regular at Utd currently injured, Clererly either,good players nonetheless , Caulker and Livermore are not regulars at Spurs, Kyle Walker is, and you didn't mention him.. Bertrandt is not a regular at Chelsea, Rodwell is not a regular at City,Welbeck is not a regular at Utd, Sturridge is not a regular at Chelsea, Wilshire is only coming back from injury after being out for 9 months,

Ferdinand is no longer selected for international football and wasn't included in the Euro Squad. Terry retired from International football. Oxlade Chamberlain is only 18 and isn't a full regular yet... About 11 players or more...

Feck this for a game of darts. Your definition of regular has only one constant for reference and that is you. If you're just going to make things up to suit your story then there really is no point in having a discussion with you.

[rodney trotter]

Make what up exactly? You named a player who retired from International football in the list, and another at 34 who is no longer selected, but you stuck him in becuase he had lots of England Caps in the past?

How is that making stuff up? Stop living in the past, same way as you think Keane is better than long, maybe 3 years ago, but not now...