Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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BennyHarp

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Chris Eubank Jr to move up to super middle, fight some guy called Renold Quinlan, on PPV on ITV Box Office. So many questions....why move to Super middle when he's been chasing GGG and Billy Joe? Who is Renold Quinlan? And what the fcuk is ITV box office all about? Surely this will barely hit 10k buys! I love my boxing but there's no chance I'm buying this!
That was never a square ball!!

lurganblue

Quote from: BennyHarp on December 13, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
Chris Eubank Jr to move up to super middle, fight some guy called Renold Quinlan, on PPV on ITV Box Office. So many questions....why move to Super middle when he's been chasing GGG and Billy Joe? Who is Renold Quinlan? And what the fcuk is ITV box office all about? Surely this will barely hit 10k buys! I love my boxing but there's no chance I'm buying this!

No chance people will buy this. He's being mismanaged

an léirmheastóir

Quote from: lurganblue on December 14, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 13, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
Chris Eubank Jr to move up to super middle, fight some guy called Renold Quinlan, on PPV on ITV Box Office. So many questions....why move to Super middle when he's been chasing GGG and Billy Joe? Who is Renold Quinlan? And what the fcuk is ITV box office all about? Surely this will barely hit 10k buys! I love my boxing but there's no chance I'm buying this!

No chance people will buy this. He's being mismanaged

World title shot hard to turn down in fairness, I know he didn't want ggg but not many do. I agree he is being mismanaged by his father but no one can doubt jrs talent. I think if bjs give him a rematchthere would be a different outcome.

The middleweight division is probably the most competitive in boxing maybe that's why he moved up.

Syferus

Quote from: an léirmheastóir on December 20, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 14, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 13, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
Chris Eubank Jr to move up to super middle, fight some guy called Renold Quinlan, on PPV on ITV Box Office. So many questions....why move to Super middle when he's been chasing GGG and Billy Joe? Who is Renold Quinlan? And what the fcuk is ITV box office all about? Surely this will barely hit 10k buys! I love my boxing but there's no chance I'm buying this!

No chance people will buy this. He's being mismanaged

World title shot hard to turn down in fairness, I know he didn't want ggg but not many do. I agree he is being mismanaged by his father but no one can doubt jrs talent. I think if bjs give him a rematchthere would be a different outcome.

The middleweight division is probably the most competitive in boxing maybe that's why he moved up.

I seriously doubt his talent. Hits about as hard as new born baby.

an léirmheastóir

Quote from: Syferus on December 20, 2016, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: an léirmheastóir on December 20, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 14, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 13, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
Chris Eubank Jr to move up to super middle, fight some guy called Renold Quinlan, on PPV on ITV Box Office. So many questions....why move to Super middle when he's been chasing GGG and Billy Joe? Who is Renold Quinlan? And what the fcuk is ITV box office all about? Surely this will barely hit 10k buys! I love my boxing but there's no chance I'm buying this!

No chance people will buy this. He's being mismanaged

World title shot hard to turn down in fairness, I know he didn't want ggg but not many do. I agree he is being mismanaged by his father but no one can doubt jrs talent. I think if bjs give him a rematchthere would be a different outcome.

The middleweight division is probably the most competitive in boxing maybe that's why he moved up.

I seriously doubt his talent. Hits about as hard as new born baby.

Talent is more than power but his record 23wins 18 kos says he hits hard enough. Has speed accuracy movement to boot. The lad is an arrogant p***k and his das worse but he has talent.

Syferus

Quote from: an léirmheastóir on December 20, 2016, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 20, 2016, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: an léirmheastóir on December 20, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 14, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 13, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
Chris Eubank Jr to move up to super middle, fight some guy called Renold Quinlan, on PPV on ITV Box Office. So many questions....why move to Super middle when he's been chasing GGG and Billy Joe? Who is Renold Quinlan? And what the fcuk is ITV box office all about? Surely this will barely hit 10k buys! I love my boxing but there's no chance I'm buying this!

No chance people will buy this. He's being mismanaged

World title shot hard to turn down in fairness, I know he didn't want ggg but not many do. I agree he is being mismanaged by his father but no one can doubt jrs talent. I think if bjs give him a rematchthere would be a different outcome.

The middleweight division is probably the most competitive in boxing maybe that's why he moved up.

I seriously doubt his talent. Hits about as hard as new born baby.

Talent is more than power but his record 23wins 18 kos says he hits hard enough. Has speed accuracy movement to boot. The lad is an arrogant p***k and his das worse but he has talent.

He could win one of the alphabet titles at lower weights but the heavier he goes the more his limitations will be exposed imo. Depends on the opponent, but you put him in even with a proper supper middleweight like Andre Ward (I know he's moved up for now) and even without knockout power they'd bully Eubank.

BennyHarp

I don't doubt Eubank's talent but I do doubt the ability of his team to get the best out of him and his mentality to actually do what it takes to be a proper champion. He has a range of punches and a crunching uppercut that would trouble most even at middleweight though!
That was never a square ball!!

JoG2

Quote from: BennyHarp on December 20, 2016, 09:43:34 PM
I don't doubt Eubank's talent but I do doubt the ability of his team to get the best out of him and his mentality to actually do what it takes to be a proper champion. He has a range of punches and a crunching uppercut that would trouble most even at middleweight though!

For me Eubank jnr is a European champion level boxer,  good but not near as good as the elites at mw

BennyHarp

Quote from: JoG2 on December 20, 2016, 09:49:36 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 20, 2016, 09:43:34 PM
I don't doubt Eubank's talent but I do doubt the ability of his team to get the best out of him and his mentality to actually do what it takes to be a proper champion. He has a range of punches and a crunching uppercut that would trouble most even at middleweight though!

For me Eubank jnr is a European champion level boxer,  good but not near as good as the elites at mw


He's moved up to super middle, at that division is he really that far away from Badou Jack or James Degale? He'd have to ditch his dad and get a proper trainer but I think he definitely has the talent to be very good.
That was never a square ball!!

an léirmheastóir

Quote from: BennyHarp on December 20, 2016, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 20, 2016, 09:49:36 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 20, 2016, 09:43:34 PM
I don't doubt Eubank's talent but I do doubt the ability of his team to get the best out of him and his mentality to actually do what it takes to be a proper champion. He has a range of punches and a crunching uppercut that would trouble most even at middleweight though!

For me Eubank jnr is a European champion level boxer,  good but not near as good as the elites at mw


He's moved up to super middle, at that division is he really that far away from Badou Jack or James Degale? He'd have to ditch his dad and get a proper trainer but I think he definitely has the talent to be very good.

He certainly does have all the talents and I'd be inclined to agree about his team or he has to get a strong person in to guide him in the right direction saying that if Eddie Hearn or frank warren couldn't do it I don't know who can.
As for the assertion that he is European level I disagree what level is BJS he was beat by him yes but started to slow. I'd be interested to know what level you think some of the other top middleweight prospects are if Eubank who is ranked top 5 in every rating going where do you put Cummings Quigley and the likes of Tommy Langford all of who if they met at the minute Eubank would beat? 

nrico2006

Eubank has the talent and is tough, but its a joke how he is being managed.  He would beat BJS if they fought again and he is the current MW champion.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

lurganblue

Frampton fight to be shown live on Sky (not PPV).  Amazing considering a dud fight like Joshua's last one was PPV. (i'll be streaming either way)

nrico2006

Quote from: lurganblue on December 21, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
Frampton fight to be shown live on Sky (not PPV).  Amazing considering a dud fight like Joshua's last one was PPV. (i'll be streaming either way)

Was just giving off about that there now to a boy in work.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

an léirmheastóir

Quote from: nrico2006 on December 21, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 21, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
Frampton fight to be shown live on Sky (not PPV).  Amazing considering a dud fight like Joshua's last one was PPV. (i'll be streaming either way)

Was just giving off about that there now to a boy in work.

Are you complaining it's not on ppv ? By the way don't think AJ is a dud either not many top class heavyweights out there who tests him from the current crop?

lurganblue

#4904
Quote from: an léirmheastóir on December 22, 2016, 01:04:38 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 21, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 21, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
Frampton fight to be shown live on Sky (not PPV).  Amazing considering a dud fight like Joshua's last one was PPV. (i'll be streaming either way)

Was just giving off about that there now to a boy in work.

Are you complaining it's not on ppv ? By the way don't think AJ is a dud either not many top class heavyweights out there who tests him from the current crop?

In terms of paying for it i dont care whether it's PPV or not cos i wont be paying.  What i am comparing though is a top class fight between 2 evenly matched fighters and a dud fight were only one person will win, and how they are marketed.  I never said Joshua is a dud.  Quite looking forward to his next fight to hopefully finally see what he is made of.