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A second consecutive reality check for us. Not realistic contenders, especially with the current management.
Two stamping incidents this year with a Derry team coached by Gavin Devlin. Coincidence?
Harte's success with Louth vastly overstated; Baker took Antrim from div 4 to div 2 and to an ulster final. Would any Derryman want him at the helm?

It's not current management, it was the injury list and playing 3/4 game with 14 men. Complete half back line gone, Loughlin, and McKindless off, couple of men ill during the week, and McGuigan's shot goes in with 7 to go it's a level game. That's to be applauded. Full compliment and we're absolutely contenders.

Tyrone men have so little to chat about these days a Derry loss is their victory! 

You better believe it! This team was going to win Sam! Time to show its not all big talk!

If you say so, for you are the sayer of truth. Enjoy that sweet victory

Any idea what the €500 million refers to?

Yes, he referred to two different groups / lists of commitments - one was in relation to new / improved centres of excellence (with both Armagh and Monaghan getting a mention) and the other to GAA Stadium infrastructure projects - this latter list included Kerry, Tipp, Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim.

I don't think adding money to GAA grounds does the games much good. Pairc ui chaoimh is a great warning

You don't think Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim don't need a help financially??

They do not need tens of millions each.

Tight hoor

A second consecutive reality check for us. Not realistic contenders, especially with the current management.
Two stamping incidents this year with a Derry team coached by Gavin Devlin. Coincidence?
Harte's success with Louth vastly overstated; Baker took Antrim from div 4 to div 2 and to an ulster final. Would any Derryman want him at the helm?

It's not current management, it was the injury list and playing 3/4 game with 14 men. Complete half back line gone, Loughlin, and McKindless off, couple of men ill during the week, and McGuigan's shot goes in with 7 to go it's a level game. That's to be applauded. Full compliment and we're absolutely contenders.

Tyrone men have so little to chat about these days a Derry loss is their victory! 

[lachlan Murray]

Very poor from Derry, sending off aside. So flat.
First half us where the game was lost, too many dropped short.

Too many of derrys star players were nowhere to be seen, glass didn't seem interested.

We were chasing the game, lachlan Murray just scored 3 I think, made a score saving tackle and Harte takes him off. Can't see the logic in that.

Galway were good. Should rightly leapfrog derry in the AI rankings and must be in that top 3 tier now.

Didn't listen to the commentary after the game but there can be no defending mckinless.
However,  I did think in general galway got their frees easier than us.

He was out on his feet for about 5 mins before going off.. Put in a huge shift, especially in the first half tbrick

McKindless, you think of all the effort that goes in from so many people, and then someone does something as daft as that to derail todays challenge...

When you think of all the hype about Harte and Derry after their league win.. very poor up front and predictable packed defence.

Was telling any of my county men this who were getting ahead of themselves during the league, at the end of the day needed Penalties to beat Armagh, favourable quarter final draws against Cork and Clare only reason they made the last 2 semi finals and in the league this year only impressive win was against Kerry who were minus the Clifford's. Hartes decision making needs questioned

Not Mickey Harte who is stamping on ankles .....

Hartes training regime that has seen our whole half back line injured when they hadn't a game for a month

Explain how it's Harte's training? CD got injured in Salthill in the league and hasn't recovered. Paudi's was very innocuous. Our half back line training differently to say the half forward line?

Need McEvoy and CD back ASAP. Glass wasn't at himself either by the looks of it. 5 in it at the end, with men out, and down to 14, after 20mins,it was huge mission to get out of Pearce with anything. 6 point swing with Shane's effort straight at the keeper. First half shooting was v disappointing.

Be very interesting to see how the squad looks in 2 weeks time

God I'd have had Derry as clear favourites... still haven't seen anything stand out from Galway for them to beat Derry this year

Throw the house on Derry

Galway maybe by abit,if am hearing the Derry team likely lineout.

Go on.....

Loughlin and the h/b line, it's been mentioned in here by a few

SF not doing so well in 26 county election poll, but then they did shite the last time and probably do not have as many sitting councillors.

Fine Gael 21%
Fianna Fail 20%
Sinn Féin 18%
Labour 6%
Green Party 5%
Social Democrats 3%
PBP - 2%
Aontú 1%.

Free starters just can't get enough of FF/FG, and why would they want a change after being spoiled for so long

Anyone got a battery operated lawnmower? My petrol one near done, was looking at options. Any good??  Maintenance must be minimal??

Bought an electric McGregor from Argos a couple of years ago, the petrol Honda finally bit the dust and I needed something quickly.
Have to use a long extension cable, but for £60 she's a belter. Plan was to replace it that summer, still cutting away

Armagh club leagues round 13 is 26th July and round 14 (final round) is 2nd August. Championship will be towards end of August. What are club players doing from March until Tyrone are out apart from playing 5 league games?

I see they had some Jim Devlin cup competition running for seniors some slog for non county players to keep them interested without any meaningful games to do late in year.

Yeah Jim Devlin cup so teams either got 1, 2 or 3 games in that. I don't think many entered the Ulster league either. I'm sure the players have been in the gym since Christmas and then whenever pitch sessions started plus friendlies etc. I see last night the league has been put back a week so now starting on 31st May. It would have been a long slog to the start of the league.

No need to be starting training so early then when league doesn't begin until mid/end of May

Brown envelopes start when the training starts... Cash flow

Any idea what the €500 million refers to?

Yes, he referred to two different groups / lists of commitments - one was in relation to new / improved centres of excellence (with both Armagh and Monaghan getting a mention) and the other to GAA Stadium infrastructure projects - this latter list included Kerry, Tipp, Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim.

I don't think adding money to GAA grounds does the games much good. Pairc ui chaoimh is a great warning

You don't think Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim don't need a help financially??

My god there are some crying hoors in the GAA who want everything for free, I surely hope they are over represented on this board or the organisation is truely in trouble.

Crying about the price of tickets to games, and the price of diesel to get to games, and how much a feed costs, and having to get a ticket for the wains, and not getting to see every game on FTA tv, and the game they just saw was lateral shite, and the forward mark, and the studio analysis, and negative managers, and people coming to the door selling tickets for their club, and the amount of money the GAA has, and the lack of money the GAA gives our club, ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum.

And then thinking they are great GAA men when they've not ever wore a shirt or even washed a shirt.

I would say the vast majority of posters on here are not even GAA members.

Keyser, in my experience a good auld moan and gripe is the common language of humanity. I've spent plenty of time abroad and worked with many nationalities and the average gaa fan or poster on this board is no different to the majority everywhere else (well west coast USA with their unwavering positivity might be the exception).
And as for your comment on posters probably not being members, I suspect the vast majority of us are pretty involved with gaa at some level. We are the diehards or we wouldn't be on here in the first place. Not that many people find discussions on the kickout strategies of Armagh all that interesting you know....

There certainly are diehards on here but a majority, definitely not.

There was a thread on ticket selling on here recently.

Not only was there just one poster, of the many who contributed to the thread, who had actually gone out to sell tickets, but there were quite a few who were complaining about being asked to buy a ticket by clubs coming to their door, and there were even a few calling for it to be banned.

Like what sort of GAA person would begrudge being ASKED to voluntarily contribute a few quid to the GAA, by a person who is giving up their time to travel around the country to raise funds for their local club. The people selling the tickets are diehards, people whinging about it on Gaaboard are blowhards.

So no I don't agree that a majority are GAA diehards, their diehardness extends to going to county matches and complaining their hole off on GAA board about stuff they probably know very little about.

And yes that would indeed include Armagh kickout strategies

You seem to have a very narrow agenda.

I've:

- played football for 35 years.
- coached and selected at teams from under-8 to senior, including the past 8 years unbroken.
- spent over 15 years on our club committee, including 5 as treasurer.
- served as our county board rep for a couple of years and on a county board subcommittee for a year.
- acted as a team liaison for our county minors for two years.

And my sincere opinion is that if a club from say County Derry cannot find the funds within their own parish, community, town, county to build whatever it they think they need, then they've no business asking people from say County Down to put their hands in their pockets and pay for it.

Am I not GAA enough to be entitled to this opinion?

No issue with you holding that opinion at all.

My opinion would be that the GAA is a national organisation and one which raison d'etre was to promote Irish games and pastimes on a national basis.  (Just checked there - the words Nation/National are mentioned in the preface to the Official Guide 10 times).

My sincerely held opinion is that there should be zero issue with clubs fundraising on a national basis (if practicalities allowed).

I think we should take it as a source of pride that members a club in Antrim would see fit to contribute to a club in Kerry (or vice versa).  Indeed, it is entirely in line with the aims and ethos of the association.

The parish/town/county element of it should be left to the actual games only.

I'd think along these lines too. Wouldn't refuse a seller at the door. In saying that, and jot this down, Derry City is the great untapped city as regards ticket sellers from outside the place. 95% are miserable heurs right enough, but it's a numbers game.
I came 3rd in a South Donegal draw about 15 years ago, wasn't a while pile tbh, and didn't even cash the cheque. (lost it, but that's neither here nor there)

[They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.

And a league result in March will have no bearing esp as Galway had so many out injured at that time.

PS I sincerely hope you are right.

This was much more defensive orientated Derry team in their 2nd year of development. The better team in the first half, beat by 5 after gifting Galway 6 points. Mayo v Donegal in 2013,now that was a team beat out the gate.

Again, playing Galway in Salthill, with this version of Derry will have much less a baring on this game than a potential injury crisis

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

[I ask do yous pay your manager and buy or not accordingly...]

My god there are some crying hoors in the GAA who want everything for free, I surely hope they are over represented on this board or the organisation is truely in trouble.

Crying about the price of tickets to games, and the price of diesel to get to games, and how much a feed costs, and having to get a ticket for the wains, and not getting to see every game on FTA tv, and the game they just saw was lateral shite, and the forward mark, and the studio analysis, and negative managers, and people coming to the door selling tickets for their club, and the amount of money the GAA has, and the lack of money the GAA gives our club, ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum.

And then thinking they are great GAA men when they've not ever wore a shirt or even washed a shirt.

I would say the vast majority of posters on here are not even GAA members.

Keyser, in my experience a good auld moan and gripe is the common language of humanity. I've spent plenty of time abroad and worked with many nationalities and the average gaa fan or poster on this board is no different to the majority everywhere else (well west coast USA with their unwavering positivity might be the exception).
And as for your comment on posters probably not being members, I suspect the vast majority of us are pretty involved with gaa at some level. We are the diehards or we wouldn't be on here in the first place. Not that many people find discussions on the kickout strategies of Armagh all that interesting you know....

There certainly are diehards on here but a majority, definitely not.

There was a thread on ticket selling on here recently.

Not only was there just one poster, of the many who contributed to the thread, who had actually gone out to sell tickets, but there were quite a few who were complaining about being asked to buy a ticket by clubs coming to their door, and there were even a few calling for it to be banned.

Like what sort of GAA person would begrudge being ASKED to voluntarily contribute a few quid to the GAA, by a person who is giving up their time to travel around the country to raise funds for their local club. The people selling the tickets are diehards, people whinging about it on Gaaboard are blowhards.

So no I don't agree that a majority are GAA diehards, their diehardness extends to going to county matches and complaining their hole off on GAA board about stuff they probably know very little about.

And yes that would indeed include Armagh kickout strategies

I did the door ticket thing a number of years ago, don't know that makes me a better club member than others who make different contributions, coaching kids, the army of ladies do the teas and all that at matches, those on the gate, people who land up for ground clean-ups... anyone lands here trying to sell a £20 ticket which isn't that often, I ask do yous pay your manager and buy or not accordingly... 

I've asked on here before, does anyone know any club that pay an outside manager through club funds? I'm not aware of any.

Truthsayer, does your club pay an outside manager? Does the money come from club funds or a benefactor / sponsor?