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General discussion / Re: What is the point of this board anymore?
« on: January 17, 2021, 11:39:44 PM »
Im defs going to land at somebodies door and offer them to he tarmac by end of 21, I can feel it in my bones.

That made me laugh ...within guidelines I hope Fear, social distancing and all that  ;D

General discussion / Re: Holidays
« on: January 17, 2021, 11:06:26 PM »
Cancelled our 2021 holiday (already rearranged from 2020), now have vouchers for 2022. Was looking at a few spots, it's mad, was even considering staying in the black north, up near the North Coast is as bad as down south.

The excitement soon turns to annoyance!

General discussion / Re: Holidays
« on: January 17, 2021, 09:58:25 PM »
After today's Zoom we decided to look for a few house down the Whest... Mayo / Galway direction. Sweet christ, we've had 6 of us in Italy for a week cheaper. Gougin' hooers

That bad?

Was looking also to head down, was also looking at Cornwall!

Jim Megaw would be proud of the prices!

General discussion / Re: Holidays
« on: January 17, 2021, 09:47:00 PM »
After today's Zoom we decided to look for a few house down the Whest... Mayo / Galway direction. Sweet christ, we've had 6 of us in Italy for a week cheaper. Gougin' hooers

United are pish, and so are we to be fair. We should be beating them handy even with half a team. City have it won now.

Yes!!!! The Internet has finally reached it's potential!  ;D

A long sit.

Fabinho is a rolls royce of a player.

General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
« on: January 16, 2021, 09:19:12 PM »
Rumour doing the rounds is that Covid vaccine supplies will run out by the end of next week.

Pfizer chiefs are predicting a riot

Henderson forced to play CB, Liverpool won't win. He plays midfield (ie the CH pairing is adequate in Klopp's eyes) they'll win... It's that simple for me

General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
« on: January 16, 2021, 04:43:15 PM »
International travel for me will be interesting in the future. Case numbers will increase as we ease restrictions, albeit there will be less people dying and needing hospital care as the vaccine works. The more people get covid, the more chance of variants evolving around the world. I don’t think a Vaccine passport will cut it, as travellers although showing no symptoms may still be carrying Covid from country to country. I can see the need for a negative test before travel remaining for quite a while, will these be free or will governments see it as an opportunity to make money? Variants are very much the enemy here, lately we have seen scientists/health officials talking about them a lot more and there is obviously a reason for that. We have missed a huge opportunity at the beginning of this to follow the New Zealand model, will they stay with this model until here immunity is achieved which could be years or will they open up the country again thus allowing the virus back in? Interesting times ahead.

Yeah missed the boat on the New Zealand model because this government is weak as Diarrhea

International travel circulates virus from country to country, why we continue to allow people in will go down as the worst judgement call ever

Getting vaccine next week, can’t wait

Thought you weren't going to bother Millhouse, I'm alright Jack etc!  ;D. In all seriousness, good man MR2. The roll out is going very well in this part of the world. Over 70s and maybe a rung below by mid-Feb?

General discussion / Re: Working From Home
« on: January 16, 2021, 01:55:44 PM »
I'd love to get a London job in the current environment and live in NI. I don't think anyone in my industry will ever be back in the office full time so I think in theory it should be possible and good for NI wages. My company has got rid of its belfast city centre office completely, we now have an office outside Belfast with only 25% capacity.

Have a friend based in London who works in IT in the City. Management already having discussions about different pay scales for those "living outside the commuter belt".

He's lucky enough to be in a position where he can tell them to get fucked and is going to move to Edinburgh and commute 2/3 days every fortnight on his own dime as required, but that'll not be the standard for sure

Yes, salary realignment they call it. Some accountant will be getting a gold star

General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
« on: January 16, 2021, 01:25:22 PM »
Is anyone optimistic about a return to any sort of normality sometime this year e.g. restaurants and pubs reopening, crowds at sporting events, theatres, concerts, reduced social distancing etc?

I was more optimistic in December than I am now given the rate of the vaccine rollout.  To me, it should be a 24x7 effort until everyone has it, but supplies seem to be preventing any sort of mass nationwide roll out.

All of 2021 will be similar to 2020. Maybe a couple of weeks here and there for cafes/pubs opening up with distancing/shields etc, only to be closed again.

I think you could be right here, the fact that the vaccine doesn’t stop people carrying or spreading Covid will see restrictions continue I think. Testing, tracing, isolating, masks and social distancing could be here for a while I think, obviously if there are less people in hospitals the restrictions may not have to be as severe but I think they will continue to some degree. We then also have the potential large number of people who will refuse the vaccine getting sick and potentially needing hospital treatment. I’ll be watching with interest to see how countries deal with the new variants from other countries, they seem to be worried about these new variants. It’s all a guessing game at this point, I thought the vaccine would be the end game in all this, I’m not so sure now.

I.think. that  by September enough should have been vaccinated for things to.restart

Agreed Sea. April / May onwards maybe similar to our summer last year and things will slowly open up from then on.

General discussion / Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
« on: January 15, 2021, 10:29:35 PM »
Lár na Páirce, a chara!

Do I agree with Sid?!  As you correctly state - sin ceist eile!  I do not agree that RTÉ should have had to issue an apology. If the sketch had been this weekend, after the Mother-and-Baby-Homes Report, I doubt if Archbishop Martin would have spoken on the matter at all.

We are an Irish-speaking family.  If we felt that you are mocking our language by bastardising the spelling of Lár na Páirce, would you feel a need to apologise for the hurt caused?!
M’anam ón diabhal, you had me worried afor a while but I had made that  clear from the start when I responded to sid and the rest, as the old saying goes, is history.
The origin of my handle goes back to the day I was stuck in a pub watching a Railway Cup game on TV.
Mar is eol duit, the commentary was as Gaeilge.
The guy sitting beside me was one mean looking individual. Six feet plus and built like a tank, the tight crew cut was a giveaway. An American marine was my neighbour and I felt slightly uneasy in case he objected to my presence in any way. I had sat down before I noticed that there were empty seats on either side of him.
I felt unsettled by his presence as he sat there glued to the box. His expression never changed but I could see from his eye movements that he was following the game closely.
All the time, for the duration of the game, he did not utter a word, just signalled to the barman when he wanted a refill. The drink was neat whiskey and the refills came every ten minutes or so. Not a word all the while from mo dhuine.
I was relieved when the game ended and I went to stand up.
The yank beat me to it.
He stood up, polished off his last drink and turned to me, looking me straight in the eye.
“Friend, I don’t know what that game is about and I sure caan’t follow the lingo but I'll tell you what…”
He put down the glass and then said , “ there sure is one thing I do know and that Lar guy is one hell of a player.”
He could see that I couldn’t understand. I could sense he was a little bit annoyed so I wasn’t going to disagree with him.
“Oh, I see what you mean I said. Which Lar did you have in mind?”
He looked at me as if I was a born fool, which I felt I was and was feeling more so by each passing second.
“Which Lar,?”  sez he, “ there was only one standout player in that game and that was Lar Naparka.
Years later when I came across gaaboard, I had no problem cooking up with my handle.

 ;D. Brilliant Lar

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 15, 2021, 07:50:03 PM »
Do you ever ask yourself who the WHO really are? The fact they have their HQ in Switzerland says a lot. I wouldn’t trust everything they come out with.

You do know who they are. They're a big pack of cabal baddies and they are after you Benny. Stay safe, buy an extra bolt for the door and batter them with your bong if and when they invade your home.

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 15, 2021, 03:40:57 PM »
1. Do we test for flu? For contrast the UK has carried out a recorded 62m tests for Covid. How many flu tests have been carried out?

We don't need to test for flu because it is far less virulent and far less lethal.

This was pointed out, oh I don't know, about 9 f*kking months ago.

2. How many positive cases of flu have been confirmed? There have been 3.2m confirmed cases of Covid due to the mass testing in place.

If someone has died of pneumonia without having COVID, then they won't be a COVID death.

If someone has had both, then it'll likely be attributed to COVID.

But here's the thing that you STILL aren't getting - with transmission vectors all but strangled for the flu - its more or less negligible this winter.

3. Look at the arbitrary way in which we record deahts. We know that if you die within 28 days of a positive Covid test you are classified as a Covid death, arbitrarily. See snippet below from a BBC report, link attached. Also see the note on the attached on the published NISRA figures

The chart I pointed out is more detailed than the f**king BBC.

It also differentiates between factor and cause - which is different from the footer detail which applies to the catch all number. Again, you aren't reading and interpreting your own information!

Finally "beneath the 5 year average". How did the winter flu season of 17/18 read with the 5 year average prior to that? 50k excess deaths over the normal for that time of year was the reported figure for the UK. In the O6, we had a record 2,101 death toll for a month in January 2018, something yet to be surpassed during Covid as of yet. And nobody even batted an eyelid about it. Why was that?

You have the floor now. It will be interesting to see how you formulate a response, will you actually be able to address what I said with facts or will you resort to hysterical accusations, lie and insults which seems to the modus operandi from the other posters in discussing the differences here.

This is very simple. The flu of 17/18 did what it did without any significant public health measures in place to reduce transmissions as much as possible. You have seen over the past few weeks the sensitivity of transmission rates to public health measures.

Now - just think - what would the covid rates be if we did what was done in 17/18? (i.e. nothing bar a few incidentals)

Ive just done a comparison of 2020 to 2018 for NI - based on the data here, and the relative death rates are:

Jan: -21%
Feb: -12%
Mar: -7%
April: +51%
May: +24%
June: +14%
July: +9%
Aug: -5%
Sept: +26%
Oct: +12%
Nov: +32%
Dec: +34%

Over the whole year, (including your Jan 2018) deaths are up ~1500 in 2020, or 10%. Since April, they are up ~2400 in 2020, or 22%.

You pointing toward Jan 2018 is farcical. If the country had locked down for then like it has now, then the number of deaths would have been a fraction of what it was, and well down on normal.

Utterly incredible ignorance here.

;D ;D ;D The whole world has got it wrong and Angelo has got it right

Nice that you ignored the rest of the post backed up by confirmed statistics, quotes and facts.

It's clear that the governments have got it wrong as we are now in Lockdown no 3 with case numbers not having dropped and spreading like wildfire in hospital settings where those most vulnerable to the virus are contained.
Look I couldn't be bothered to debate with you. As someone has already pointed out this whole thread has turned in to a different poster taking up the mantle daily for a rebuttal to your posts, and you continually fail to even look at or interpret correctly the simple stats and information presented to you. Fair play to you, you have invested some time and energy in to your preposterous stance, but again as another poster has pointed out, you have won not a single person over. Maybe you could ask yourself why you think that is?

What furlough is for, spending days productively

General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 14, 2021, 02:29:43 PM »
And round and round we go. Back to Lockdowns and inaccurate tests. Could it be anymore obvious men? Be more beneficial to the board if those running moderated rather than creating these accounts  :P

Vaccine wise (Pfizer) , I had an ach in my arm for maybe a day. All good apart from that. Most in our work now vaccinated, and a headache for a while seems to be a common enough symptom.
Have spoken to a good few who have had the Oxford vaccine  through their GP practice and some had flu like symptoms for a day or 2.

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