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GAA Discussion / Re: Rossies v Tyrone Hyde Park 13th July 5pm.
« on: July 11, 2019, 11:59:57 PM »
Bogue did make a couple of good points. But you have to remember who his primary audience is too - The Belfast Telegraph readership.

Sometimes you have to tell the wife them jeans do look good on her, for selfish reasons.

Declan Bogue has no credibility as a person never mind as a journalist.

What the fcuk does that shit mean? Bogue is possibly one of thee best GAA writers out there.

You might disagree with his opinion piece in a newspaper but to question him as a person?! Cop on with yourself. I donít particularly agree with his summation but his writing is always excellent and having met the man several times I can say without any hesitation he is a gent and a true GAA man.

Agreed, and quare craic. Top man.

GAA Discussion / Re: Cavan v Tyrone - 5pm, Clones, Sat 6th July
« on: July 06, 2019, 05:42:02 PM »
All very gutless from Cavan management and players. Beat before the ball was thrown in by the looks of it

Tight enough viewing so far

Men against boys. How is mcvitty still on pitch?. Glad we're still pissing off the inbreds

The games that riveting you're on a message board!  ;)

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: June 25, 2019, 09:57:11 AM »
The Tommy Murphy Cup Mark II.

"Some county managers and players had expressed hope that they could still enter the qualifiers and if they didn't progress past the second round could then turn their attention to a second-tier competition.

But this has been knocked on the head and will not be on a Central Council or subsequently Special Congress agenda."

The bit in bold is what I would have supported 100%. All counties get to compete in their provincial championships, and get a run in the qualifiers (rounds 1 and 2) before dropping down to tier 2. And, having the tier 2 finals on the same day (grand finals extravaganza kind of deal) along with the minors. CP holds 82k. Introduce some kind of loyalty scheme and the stadium should be able to hold those who travel to most games.

No option of dropping into qualifiers and holding the finals in July is a real kicker for me. Because in a particular year, certain counties are not able to compete in tier 1, they shouldn't be treated as 2nd class citizens, but afforded the same time, respect and exposure as those pushing for Sam.

And on and on we go...must work out how I'm gonna watch the 2 x Rupert Murdoch games this weekend.

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 23, 2019, 01:23:56 PM »
1 day before Championship game and zero craic on here.

Is that possibly the strongest derry team forward line named in last 7/8 years

Definitely as strong as the front 6 2 weeks ago!

Agreed though, it is a serious forward unit. I've a family do and it's 50/50 (well probably 30/70) that I get to the game. Won't be much in it. Laois back to back promotions.

Its quite obvious after that post you havenít a clue. I will give you cedit in that you are a loyal and enthusiastic supporter, but to say thats a serious forward unit exposes your football judgement .

Don't patronise me you moaning hoor. You whinge as much as Tyrone folk. If you don't think the front 6 named to start are serious footballers, well that's your call.

First championship game I've missed in a long time. A few landed back to the family do direct from Owenbeg fuming. As was said above, the 2nd half lacked intensity from most. Gutted to not be in the draw the mora morning. I've alot of time for Mackers and the management team, they've another year, but tbh, I'd cut a few off the Owenbeg wage bill and push big time to get ORourke.
Div 4 or not, thanks to the management and squad, we've had some good days on the road this year. Div 3, alot will spend on how the Robbies get on in the club championship

Good luck to the u20s on Friday, looking forward to it.

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 21, 2019, 11:04:49 PM »
1 day before Championship game and zero craic on here.

Is that possibly the strongest derry team forward line named in last 7/8 years

Definitely as strong as the front 6 2 weeks ago!

Agreed though, it is a serious forward unit. I've a family do and it's 50/50 (well probably 30/70) that I get to the game. Won't be much in it. Laois back to back promotions.

GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: June 21, 2019, 08:07:12 AM »
To fit Brolly's head??

Pearse Park , some past managerial casualties from a summers Saturday night in Longford : 
Pete McGrath Down ,
John Brennan , Derry,
John O'Mahoney Mayo,
Brian McIvor Derry.....

Brian stood down after a Conor Lawn masterclass in Pearse Stadium, Salthill

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 16, 2019, 06:24:57 PM »
Sure the stewards from the city/Celtic pk have to go to owenbeg as there wouldn't be enough to manage the car park never mind the stadium.

Sure they can get their muckers in the RUC to do the stewarding again at Owenbeg

Definitely one of the stranger posts I've read on here

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 16, 2019, 01:35:27 PM »
Either way, hope there's a big crowd there

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 16, 2019, 01:34:59 PM »
Both are great stadiums to watch games but I'd say Owenbeg costs a fair bit more to open... Thon portakabin at CP wouldn't cost much to light / heat

GAA Discussion / Re: Football qualifier route 2019
« on: June 13, 2019, 04:22:52 PM »

Anyone talking about tiering in the context of improving the game in weaker counties is, quite frankly, talking through their hole.

Hard to argue with that, if anything, it'll widen the gap between the haves and the have nots.

From a spectacle point of view (less mismatches), a tiered championship would work well but it's absolutely nothing to do with improving the lot of weaker counties. Better/more equal funding is the only way to achieve that

So you reckon the gap between Dublin and Wicklow, tyrone and antrim, mayo and London, Kerry and limerick will get wider with tiering. I would say the gap is already too wide to narrow within the next 20 years. Funding is something that people have only started to talk about in the last couple of years with the dominance of Dublin. The gap between the top teams and the rest was always there. Funding won't make a difference. Counties like Fermanagh and Wicklow have never won anything. counties like that get 2 championship games a year, 3 if they get a lucky draw. Where is the chance to progress? Tiers would at least give the weaker counties something to play for.
The problem is that, like with restoring the Divisions 1-4 setup over the 1A/1B/2A/2B a decade ago, is that the tiering will entrench the advantages the top teams have by playing each other regularly and raising the standards as a result. The problem isn't that the gaps to Wicklow, Antrim, London and Limerick will get bigger than they already are. It's that after a few years of it the gap to the likes of Laois, Down, Sligo and Tipperary will have got much wider than they already are. And like with Carlow in the hurling this year and Laois next year if they win the Joe MacDonagh Cup, that the team that goes up into the top tier will be chasing shadows and will go straight back down, and whoever follows them likewise.

As has been alluded to before, the push for tiering has little to do with concern for the weaker counties, it's driven to create an elite competition amongst the top teams and feed the media interest and generate greater revenue as a result. That Sligo might win a first round Joe Brolly Cup tie against Waterford in Nenagh is not what enthuses Croke Park about going down the road they have set themselves on.

How much wider can the gap go really? It's huge at present.  The fact that these 4 teams play in a single tournament with the likes of Dublin, Kerry is ridiculous.

The 2nd bit in bold, sure if they're in the top 2 divisions (which they should be busting themselves to do, then they will compete in tier 1.

But in any proposals, ALL counties should start in Tier 1 through their provinces and maybe after rd 1 / rd 2 of qualifers drop down to tier 2, so EVERYONE has a chance of playing EVERYONE. Surely if a county has intentions of progressing then they'll be using the pre-season / league to gear towards the championship.

3rd bit in bold, alluded to by who? the majority of people I Know are happy enough with a tiered championship and we're not Croke Pk suits or in the media. Though in fairness, a Derry man I was sitting with at the game on Sat was dead against it. Din't really say why, just that 'it'll be a pile of balls'

I wondered if you were from one of the big hitters county wise so had a quick look at your posts), post 1 was

Best football memory: 1999 Sligo JFC Q-Final - Owenmore Gaels 1-7 Ballymote 1-6. How would Owenmore have gotten on in the SFC in Sligo that year?

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 13, 2019, 01:48:23 PM »
Kick in teeth its not in Celtic Park. Only game there this year has bee the Leitrim one!

Holding off for Mayo in round 3  :D

GAA Discussion / Re: GAA pitches in Craigavon - a gale in a pale?
« on: June 12, 2019, 10:57:28 PM »
Are there many public/council owned GAA pitches anywhere in the North (or South)?

I remember Jennings Park in Newry having a GAA pitch with 2 soccer pitches running across it seemed like it was only or mostly soccer that got played there. I don't think they even have GAA posts there now.

Almost all GAA pitches are either club or school owned.

Doire Trasna play on a council owned pitch in the City

General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: June 12, 2019, 03:29:02 PM »
When They See Us - 9/10. Excellent, hard hitting.
Animal Kingdom - 8/10. New season on the go, good show
Mum - 7.5/10. Decent show, though a couple of characters fairly annoying

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: June 12, 2019, 02:52:29 PM »
"GAA President John Horan has revealed that two different formats for a proposed tier two football championship will be put before Croke Parkís Central Council before the end of June".

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