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General discussion / Re: Neil Lennon's Hibees!
« on: February 23, 2017, 12:28:54 PM »
He has only a tiny fraction of the budget Rodgers enjoys and has much greater opposition in his league to contend with than Celtic.

I tell you something if Hibs draw Celtic in the Scottish Cup I wouldn't risk any money on the outcome

I would, hibs would get a tanking.


These Neil Lennon *enter club name* threads are a curse, he'll not thank you for starting another !

General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
« on: February 22, 2017, 12:31:09 PM »
Anyone stick with taboo? I quite like it.

Really enjoying it, great TV

Suits (mentioned above), the worse it's getting, still watching it though !

Watch a couple of episode's of The Grand Tour, must say, it's a good watch

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: February 21, 2017, 02:58:36 PM »
Points taken Screen and Jog but if a county player is not a good tackler, who had him for 10 years previous and had responsibility for getting him up to speed on this?

all depends on the referee on any given day  ;)

GAA Discussion / Re: Slaughtneil
« on: February 21, 2017, 12:56:29 PM »
Agree with Stallion on this.
Very boring team to watch throughout most of the Derry & onwards cship (from games I saw).

Nothing expansive or exciting about them but by god they know how to win games.

Begrudge their success for sure
but have a slight admiration for them.

As for taking players from other places - moot point considering all of the top/successful teams do it - recent prime example being Cross or indeed Galls and thats not even going into Dublin clubs

In a nutshell

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: February 21, 2017, 12:47:44 PM »
I did enjoy the articles on John Brennan. If players don't buy in, they cannot win.

You are big into the sports science Mickey

Well he did say they have to eat well and sleep well to be able to play well. That's part of the buy in and there's science enough in that for me. I still maintain that what I said before is right. The way the clubs bring these fellas up to play is very very important for Derry. I don't think schools have the same responsibility because players do most of the learning at the club and not in the school. If you take the Moy in Tyrone then it has produced four top county players as an intermediate club in the last few years. Do we have any intermediate clubs turning out four top county players? Maybe we do and I have just missed them.

Did those 4 you talk about in Moy get extra special training over and above what the other players got? Extra skills sessions,  fitness sessions? Or as mentioned,  did genetics etc and those men's drive to better themselves as footballers,  hours spent over and above shape them,  along with club coaching mould these men into the footballers they became?

We all remember McFlynn,  Rocks,  McBride etc coming through at the same time and propelling Loup up the leagues eventually to an Ulster title.  Did those men get special coaching or were they just a special group of driven talented footballers who put in the extra work on their own to reach higher levels?
Club coaches have their players for a couple of sessions a week.  Only so much can be worked on in this short time frame.  The very best club and county players do what what it takes in their own time so they can solo off both feet,  foot pass off either foot,  kick points off either foot etc.. Spatial awareness and game reading imo can be coached to a point but it's something that comes naturally within certain players. 

Micky,  you seem to put all responsibility at the feet of club coaches,  but it's a 2 way street.

Hard luck to the Rock. They put in some effort.

Serious effort by both teams.  Some jobsworth that ref.  Thought he was about to send another Rock player off after the whistle for a wee hand squeeze

He got a couple squeezed handshakes at the end.  ;D Can't blame players for been frustrated as yellow cards were very soft.

Be hard not to blow a gasket surely

Hard luck to the Rock. They put in some effort.

Serious effort by both teams.  Some jobsworth that ref.  Thought he was about to send another Rock player off after the whistle for a wee hand squeeze

GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: February 16, 2017, 05:39:02 PM »
Whilst some of the articles are hit and miss,  the IN's GAA coverage is the best about by a country mile imo

General discussion / Re: How gaaboarders should look
« on: February 15, 2017, 08:48:19 PM »
Bigfella on the user is on the watched thread.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone. 11/02/17. Croke Park, Dublin.
« on: February 15, 2017, 08:20:50 AM »
I honestly believe Derry would have beaten Dublin last year

GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: February 14, 2017, 11:34:05 AM »
has Brolly split ties with the Irish Independent?

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2017, 10:59:41 AM »
He might have been that age when you fellas wanted him in and a wee bit older when you wanted him out again.

Micky, no harm to ye, but someone might engage with you a bit more if you didn't continuously make sweeping statements, be that about coaching or supporters.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2017, 09:14:32 AM »
Difficult to do that much at 67 years of age. I leave that up to you fellas.

I'd say John Brennan wishes he was 67 years young  ;)

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: February 13, 2017, 09:31:08 AM »
As I said before fellas and I will say it again. You are deliberately ignoring the big elephant. A large part of the blame must lie with our football clubs who raise these players for years and don't teach them all the skills. I hear we have a man coming up from Dublin in March to show our clubs how to teach players to kick and fist pass and hand to toe with the left and the right. Derry managers are inheriting flaws that clubs have made.

Have you just woken up from a 20 year sleep?   You can have all the skill in the world,  if you're not setup right esp at County level,  you'll be found wanting.  We're not short in skilful players in the county

Bohan has good ideas,  like most good coaches.  He's touring counties,  why not have a listen? Be a bit more worthwhile than repeatedly taking potshots at club managers / coaches.  You at much yourself to progress football in the county?

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