Boxing Thread

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Syferus

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Trying to explain away Fury beating Klitch so cleanly as the Ukrainian being injured is a serious attempt to diminish what Fury did. It's like creating alternative facts just because you don't like the story that the actual events tell.

It was the size of Fury and his ability to use that size that completely destroyed Klitchko's one dimensional, defensively paranoid slap-fighting style that was entirely predicated on him being the bigger man with the reach advantage. I'm still amazed he got away with pawing smaller fighters for so long. Very poor refereeing on that point. Once he lost those advantages and someone could pick him off from range his wobbly defense was highlighted as it was many times earlier in his career.

People tend to gloss over the inescapable fact that most of the fighters he beat on his run were junk by the standards of any other era of heavyweight boxing. He was built up as a great champion when in reality he was just someone who came along at a great time for his set of talents to be utilised.

Itchy

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Im a big fury fan but this was as big a joke as ive seen. Your man was tiny, but it was like he was told to quit at a certain point as he was hardly hurt.

Looks like he was guaranteed a certain amount of money for lasting 4 rounds so after the 4th he just had enough and withdrew. . . a complete and utter shambles from start to finish!

Maybe it's just me but before the Klitshcko fight my opinion was that Fury was a reasonable heavyweight but nothing spectacular. Awkward and hard to deal with but that's about it. Klitschko from what I saw underestimated Fury and he was able to counter punch his way to victory.

I think because he hasn't fought since then there's some kind of legend following him that he's actually one of the all time greats and would beat anybody around. Even if he hadn't had his 'sabbatical' he would struggle against lads like Joshua/Wilder.

Nothing I have seen since he's come back makes me think he would live with those two even with losing the extra stone or 2!

You're being daft if you think a properly focused and fit Fury wouldn't make mince-meat of Wilder. The American is barely a boxer imho.

For the sake of heavyweight boxing I hope he gets back to that point before Joshua lamps Wilder himself and Fury is the only remaining top heavyweight. Then we'd have a very interesting fight.

Just wondering is their any topic old syphilis is not an expert on.

I've been posting on this thread of years, but well done for just noticing despite your obvious obsession.

Sure you could say that about any thread.

Boycey

Fury is a funny one given his homophobic, sexist, anti-Semitic, religious (and anything I've missed out on) views and his drugs ban he's very popular.. I quite like him myself for some strange reason. But I don't think there are many true boxing fans that think he's some kind of a legend it's more an indictment of the state of Heavyweight boxing that's we're hoping he can bring a bit of life back to it..

Syferus

Quote from: Boycey on June 11, 2018, 04:19:22 PM
Fury is a funny one given his homophobic, sexist, anti-Semitic, religious (and anything I've missed out on) views and his drugs ban he's very popular.. I quite like him myself for some strange reason. But I don't think there are many true boxing fans that think he's some kind of a legend it's more an indictment of the state of Heavyweight boxing that's we're hoping he can bring a bit of life back to it..

He's a total bellend but Joshua has said some quietly regressive shît himself but he has a better PR team managing him. Regardless if you want to see two top heavyweights fight they are the only two in exsistence right now.

Atticus_Finch

Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
Trying to explain away Fury beating Klitch so cleanly as the Ukrainian being injured is a serious attempt to diminish what Fury did. It's like creating alternative facts just because you don't like the story that the actual events tell.

It was the size of Fury and his ability to use that size that completely destroyed Klitchko's one dimensional, defensively paranoid slap-fighting style that was entirely predicated on him being the bigger man with the reach advantage. I'm still amazed he got away with pawing smaller fighters for so long. Very poor refereeing on that point. Once he lost those advantages and someone could pick him off from range his wobbly defense was highlighted as it was many times earlier in his career.

People tend to gloss over the inescapable fact that most of the fighters he beat on his run were junk by the standards of any other era of heavyweight boxing. He was built up as a great champion when in reality he was just someone who came along at a great time for his set of talents to be utilised.

Chief, do me a favour and don't talk about alternative facts and inventing stories.  I've read some of your contributions on the Paddy Jackson thread.

Wilder is barely a boxer ?  Very good !

No one would dispute that Klitschko's reign came at a time when the heavyweight division was barren, at the end of the day he can only beat what's put in front of him, his performance against Joshua (when he was well past his prime) is more reflective of his ability than when i felt he was (rightly or wrongly) injured against Fury. I noticed you neglected to mention that.
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

Syferus

Quote from: Atticus_Finch on June 11, 2018, 04:51:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
Trying to explain away Fury beating Klitch so cleanly as the Ukrainian being injured is a serious attempt to diminish what Fury did. It's like creating alternative facts just because you don't like the story that the actual events tell.

It was the size of Fury and his ability to use that size that completely destroyed Klitchko's one dimensional, defensively paranoid slap-fighting style that was entirely predicated on him being the bigger man with the reach advantage. I'm still amazed he got away with pawing smaller fighters for so long. Very poor refereeing on that point. Once he lost those advantages and someone could pick him off from range his wobbly defense was highlighted as it was many times earlier in his career.

People tend to gloss over the inescapable fact that most of the fighters he beat on his run were junk by the standards of any other era of heavyweight boxing. He was built up as a great champion when in reality he was just someone who came along at a great time for his set of talents to be utilised.

Chief, do me a favour and don't talk about alternative facts and inventing stories.  I've read some of your contributions on the Paddy Jackson thread.

Wilder is barely a boxer ?  Very good !

No one would dispute that Klitschko's reign came at a time when the heavyweight division was barren, at the end of the day he can only beat what's put in front of him, his performance against Joshua (when he was well past his prime) is more reflective of his ability than when i felt he was (rightly or wrongly) injured against Fury. I noticed you neglected to mention that.

We're done here. I see the place you're coming from clear enough now.

Captain Black

Why do we need a discussion forum when syf knows everything better than everyone else?

Wildweasel74

#5902
Fury has plently of skills and movement for a big man but not knock out power a man of his size should have! His attitude to the sports baffles me! Wouldnt put in the hard yards and diet to get to the level required at this level! He reminds me if Riddick Bowe eating exploits and problems with his waist line minus the knock out power of course! Fury beat very few boxers in his current condition

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on June 11, 2018, 04:51:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
Trying to explain away Fury beating Klitch so cleanly as the Ukrainian being injured is a serious attempt to diminish what Fury did. It's like creating alternative facts just because you don't like the story that the actual events tell.

It was the size of Fury and his ability to use that size that completely destroyed Klitchko's one dimensional, defensively paranoid slap-fighting style that was entirely predicated on him being the bigger man with the reach advantage. I'm still amazed he got away with pawing smaller fighters for so long. Very poor refereeing on that point. Once he lost those advantages and someone could pick him off from range his wobbly defense was highlighted as it was many times earlier in his career.

People tend to gloss over the inescapable fact that most of the fighters he beat on his run were junk by the standards of any other era of heavyweight boxing. He was built up as a great champion when in reality he was just someone who came along at a great time for his set of talents to be utilised.

Chief, do me a favour and don't talk about alternative facts and inventing stories.  I've read some of your contributions on the Paddy Jackson thread.

Wilder is barely a boxer ?  Very good !

No one would dispute that Klitschko's reign came at a time when the heavyweight division was barren, at the end of the day he can only beat what's put in front of him, his performance against Joshua (when he was well past his prime) is more reflective of his ability than when i felt he was (rightly or wrongly) injured against Fury. I noticed you neglected to mention that.

We're done here. I see the place you're coming from clear enough now.

You're a rape apologists Atticus... anyone who dared say anything different to doofus is a fool!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

LooseCannon

David Haye retired.

Tony Baloney

Canelo v GGG confirmed 15 Sep

Jim Bob

When would tickets go on sale for Windsor on 18th August ?

lurganblue


Taylor

Quote from: lurganblue on June 14, 2018, 10:05:11 AM
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Canelo v GGG confirmed 15 Sep

has BJS been shafted?

Hopefully.
The stunt he pulled on Murray was a disgrace

nrico2006

He was never going to get the fight anyway, everyone and their dog knew it would be GGG v Alvarez in September, sure the flipping suspension was even tailored to allow it to happen in line with the Mexican Independence Day celebrations.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'