Man Utd Thread:

under the bar · December 22, 2019, 04:19:19 PM

Watford had lost 4 of their last 5 before today!

Milltown Row2 · December 22, 2019, 06:32:16 PM

Losing to Watford has been typical of Utds performances since Fergie retired. The club really needs to look at itself and decide whether they are a commercial club or a football club. I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. The team and club lack leaders

From the Bunker · December 22, 2019, 07:02:48 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2019, 06:32:16 PM
Losing to Watford has been typical of Utds performances since Fergie retired. The club really needs to look at itself and decide whether they are a commercial club or a football club. I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. The team and club lack leaders

There is no decision. They are a commercial club.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/half-a-billion-debt-but-dividends-galore-the-glazers-legacy-at-manchester-united-1.4054282

Onthe40 · December 23, 2019, 01:32:54 AM

I've been a lifelong Utd supporter but I am highly disillusioned at the moment., how can we go from beating City and Spurs to that level of crap today.. it's pathetic... no consistency whatsoever and i'll Be honest a manager who doesn't seem to know how to change tactics according to the opposition.. how do I justify spending money on tickets etc to take the lads to OT.. I think of the cauldron the theatre of dreams used to be...

An Watcher · December 23, 2019, 07:16:02 AM

No harm boss but I've never heard of OT being described as a cauldron hence Roy keanes prawn sandwich comments a few years back. Take your point on everything else though. I like the fact that they're giving a manager time but I don't think they're giving the right manager time!

Square Ball · December 23, 2019, 10:03:05 AM

Disillusioned seems to be a common word used, one I would agree to, and add a few expletives. Ole seems to be tactically inept and can't adjust to different tactics. How Lindgard still starts is beyond me. At least fight for the ball.
Every time he seems near to be given the door he gets a good result to keep him there. Is it time to go? Think after getting beat by Watford yes. Mid table anonymity beckons.

screenexile · December 23, 2019, 11:54:16 AM

Quote from: An Watcher on December 23, 2019, 07:16:02 AM
No harm boss but I've never heard of OT being described as a cauldron hence Roy keanes prawn sandwich comments a few years back. Take your point on everything else though. I like the fact that they're giving a manager time but I don't think they're giving the right manager time!

Nearly 20 years ago!!

BennyCake · December 23, 2019, 12:07:17 PM

Quote from: stiffler on December 22, 2019, 03:13:40 PM
De gea shocking for the first goal. Surely Romero a better option at this stage ?

Romero always was the better option. But golden boy De Gea seems undroppable, regardless of his howlers and brutal performances

magpie seanie · December 23, 2019, 12:17:42 PM

There's still major sugery needed. Success won't come overnight no matter who is in charge. Several players are playing their way out of the club which is no harm. They've been given ample opportunity and are proving they're not good enough. The club's most expensive player has to realise some value when he's sold so he needs to be given "shop window" time. Unfortunately - both these things aren't necessarily conduisive to winning. Nor was getting rid of Lukaku - he'd have got goals in these games against the lower teams and maybe United would have picked up more points. United are too predicatable against these teams - Lukaku gave opposing centre halves more to think about. However, against the top teams in high tempo gameshe was a passenger.

There will continue to be highs and lows until at least 5/6 more dependable players are brought in.

I'm seriously concerned about where DeGea is mentally. He was a superb keeper but this calamitous errors aren't going away....

OgraAnDun · December 23, 2019, 01:10:09 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on December 23, 2019, 12:17:42 PM
There's still major sugery needed. Success won't come overnight no matter who is in charge. Several players are playing their way out of the club which is no harm. They've been given ample opportunity and are proving they're not good enough. The club's most expensive player has to realise some value when he's sold so he needs to be given "shop window" time. Unfortunately - both these things aren't necessarily conduisive to winning. Nor was getting rid of Lukaku - he'd have got goals in these games against the lower teams and maybe United would have picked up more points. United are too predicatable against these teams - Lukaku gave opposing centre halves more to think about. However, against the top teams in high tempo gameshe was a passenger.

There will continue to be highs and lows until at least 5/6 more dependable players are brought in.

I'm seriously concerned about where DeGea is mentally. He was a superb keeper but this calamitous errors aren't going away....

I admittedly didn't see all of the match yesterday but I thought Pogba was the only Utd player to show a bit of quality when he came on.

magpie seanie · December 23, 2019, 01:28:35 PM

Quote from: OgraAnDun on December 23, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 23, 2019, 12:17:42 PM
There's still major sugery needed. Success won't come overnight no matter who is in charge. Several players are playing their way out of the club which is no harm. They've been given ample opportunity and are proving they're not good enough. The club's most expensive player has to realise some value when he's sold so he needs to be given "shop window" time. Unfortunately - both these things aren't necessarily conduisive to winning. Nor was getting rid of Lukaku - he'd have got goals in these games against the lower teams and maybe United would have picked up more points. United are too predicatable against these teams - Lukaku gave opposing centre halves more to think about. However, against the top teams in high tempo gameshe was a passenger.

There will continue to be highs and lows until at least 5/6 more dependable players are brought in.

I'm seriously concerned about where DeGea is mentally. He was a superb keeper but this calamitous errors aren't going away....

I admittedly didn't see all of the match yesterday but I thought Pogba was the only Utd player to show a bit of quality when he came on.

Undoubtedly but I just don't think he's committed to the cause. Also think he's a poor influence on others so I'd be in favour of shiping him out once he's replaced with similar quality. Therein lies the conundrum.....

Boycey · December 23, 2019, 11:05:26 PM

I see Daley Blind had surgery on a heart condition today, best of luck to the lad...

Cunny Funt · December 24, 2019, 10:34:26 AM

Quote from: Boycey on December 23, 2019, 11:05:26 PM
I see Daley Blind had surgery on a heart condition today, best of luck to the lad...

Best of luck to him indeed and to another former United player Depay, whom was in the best form of his career only to ruled out long term with a serious knee injury recently.

Milltown Row2 · December 26, 2019, 07:30:44 PM

Foot off the gas after the fourth, which, considering the possession they had was poor, should at the very least be winning games like that by 6 or more once the opposition drop their heads.

Going for a 2/1 win on the other game (Burnley)

From the Bunker · December 26, 2019, 08:16:16 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2019, 07:30:44 PM
Foot off the gas after the fourth, which, considering the possession they had was poor, should at the very least be winning games like that by 6 or more once the opposition drop their heads.

Going for a 2/1 win on the other game (Burnley)

During the festive season if you have your game won, You are naturally thinking about your next day out which will be in a short period. Beating a team by multiple goals means nothing if players are tired, injured or suspended for their next game.