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Conor McGregors rant about Arthur Guinness being a traitor but mcgregor wore a poppy...

You'd nearly feel sorry for McGregor at this stage. It's like a public case study in how not to handle fame, money and power. But too many people enabled it because he was a cash cow for them.

I'd say Derry's current problems are more to do with injuries, fatigue and abandoning the highly disciplined way they played under Gallagher. They've been hard at it for a few years now moving up the league tables, pushing themselves hard. Great footballers and will be back. Would not rule out Derry beating a 2nd placed team in the prelims. Mayo Derry would be tasty.

I wouldn't rule out Westmeath beating them in the final group game. The nature of that defeat yesterday can't be turned around in the space of a few weeks and it doesn't look like a happy camp at all. Either way they can no longer be considered All Ireland pretenders.

Much too simplistic to put it down to Portugal. That has nothing to do with them repeatedly leaving no defenders in one half of the pitch. It has been a tactical disaster, anything else is just trying to pin the blame on the players.

It will go down as the worst appointment in GAA history. Both from Derrys perspective and from Mickey Harte's perspective. How either side thought it was a good idea to begin with is baffling.

That was probably Armaghs best performance under geezer. So many players performed well on the day and the only negative was that we butchered a few other goal chances - it should have been 6 or 7 goals. It proved that when we play front foot, aggressive football we are much better and some of the tackling to turnover possession followed by quick attacks was excellent.

On the other side Derry were a complete shambles. The Mickey Harte appointment was never likely to end well and Chrissy McKaigue will have a bit of explaining to do to his team mates for appointing him. They look like a team waiting for the season to end.

How come McKaigue is taking the flack for this appointment, pretty sure he didnt ratify it on his own.

Not a fan or McK or MH. Just curious

You're right he mightn't have ratified it himself, but how anyone thought it was a good idea to begin with is the problem. And that's got absolutely nothing to do with his credentials as a manager which were top level.

The surprise is that it has imploded as badly as it actually has. If this was soccer he'd be gone this morning.

That was probably Armaghs best performance under geezer. So many players performed well on the day and the only negative was that we butchered a few other goal chances - it should have been 6 or 7 goals. It proved that when we play front foot, aggressive football we are much better and some of the tackling to turnover possession followed by quick attacks was excellent.

On the other side Derry were a complete shambles. The Mickey Harte appointment was never likely to end well and Chrissy McKaigue will have a bit of explaining to do to his team mates for appointing him. They look like a team waiting for the season to end.

I'm actually fairly hopeful that we can win on Sunday now and its not because I'm convinced that Armagh have totally got over the Ulster final defeat. It's more got to do with how vulnerable Derry look following their recent championship defeats and their injuries picked up along the way. This time last year Derry were riding the crest of a wave and their support base seemed energised in a way that I hadn't seen them before. However recent defeats (particularly the Donegal one) have seen that feel good factor disappear and their fans were surprisingly very downbeat about their chances prior to the Galway match which transpired to be well placed in hindsight. There are signs of disharmony and indiscipline within their camp and if Mickey Harte suffers another defeat here and they finish 3rd in the group, it will be difficult for them to progress beyond a quarter final. That would be a disastrous way for Derry to end the season given that they were supposed to be Ulsters great hope at the beginning of the year.   

Tyrone much the better side and they played good football in the process, I think Dooher will be picking up the phone for no.11 very shortly.

Derry will feel that was an AI that got away as they were the 2 best teams in the country and they should have beaten Tyrone in the Ulster final.

Mickey now accusing Comer of theatrics, Derry aren't helping themselves today he would have been just better saying he didn't see it.

I thought Derry had a bit of an inferiority complex before the game with all the talk of a Galway jinx which proved to be true.

It will be interesting to see if Mickey Harte faces up to the media this time after this defeat. There are more questions than answers over Derrys AI chances after the last 2 defeats.

Ill discipline from Derry killing them.

Daft act from McKinless but he has a nasty streak in him so its not totally out of character. They still have time to turn it around but it will take a big second half now playing away from home with 14 men. If they are defeated today Harte will be under big pressure considering the earlier Donegal performance. 

Westmeath is a dangerous match but at least we are forewarned having played them last year. It's probably the critical match in the group for us since if we beat them we are almost guaranteed last 12. Management have a big job picking the players up after Sunday now. Barring injuries or knocks I wouldn't make too many changes either given how well we played for 3/4 of the game on Sunday. Maybe just freshen the team up with one or two players. They are quite a defensive outfit as well so it could be worth starting Oisin O'Neill as we will need to be able to pick off scores from long range against them.

[Very harsh and don't agree with that at all, Jarly Og is well capable of kicking a ball over the bar from 35-40m on the correct side of the pitch given his kicking style.]

The talk of Jarly Og's mark is a red herring, if Jarly was given a bag of O Neills and stood on that spot in Clones till next Sunday he wouldn't have make that kick. Soup should have had a pop at his , but again he had just missed a similar one so he maybe didnt feel good about it. A wild wide and handing back procession to Patton was not the right option. When Conaty dropped short was a turning point I feel,he should have recycled, maybe bit of inexperience but the lad had a great game other than that and his wide at the last.

Very harsh and don't agree with that at all, Jarly Og is well capable of kicking a ball over the bar from 35-40m on the correct side of the pitch given his kicking style. If that was the case he shouldn't have bothered calling the mark in the first instance. I don't particularly like the rule to begin with but it is there to be taken advantage of where spaces in defence are tight in the closing stages of games.

It's a sad indictment of gaelic football that some people think a ball should be recycled backwards from a shooting position inside the 45m line and that they can't trust a player to have a shot at the posts. Playing the low risk percentages might be part of the reason why we can't see out these matches, its a fear mindset.   

I'm not so sure that he is. Jarly óg falls into the category of players we have that IMO are told to not shoot unless it's almost a certainty. You can see it in our build up play.  Quite a few of our lads are not going to attempt to threaten the scoreboard (in certain positions) and I'm sure the opposition know this too.

He's a natural midfielder and was an Allstar nominee 2 years ago along with Soupy. If supporters can't trust top players to take a free kick at goals 35-40 metres out but rather that he kick it backwards then we have simply become conditioned to a risk free, low percentage game. At what point do we roll the dice, when we are 70, 80 or 90% certain of a score. Nobody is criticising Kelly or McPartland this morning for missing big kicks, that's just part of the game. No guts no glory. 

The talk of Jarly Og's mark is a red herring, if Jarly was given a bag of O Neills and stood on that spot in Clones till next Sunday he wouldn't have make that kick. Soup should have had a pop at his , but again he had just missed a similar one so he maybe didnt feel good about it. A wild wide and handing back procession to Patton was not the right option. When Conaty dropped short was a turning point I feel,he should have recycled, maybe bit of inexperience but the lad had a great game other than that and his wide at the last.

Very harsh and don't agree with that at all, Jarly Og is well capable of kicking a ball over the bar from 35-40m on the correct side of the pitch given his kicking style. If that was the case he shouldn't have bothered calling the mark in the first instance. I don't particularly like the rule to begin with but it is there to be taken advantage of where spaces in defence are tight in the closing stages of games.

It's a sad indictment of gaelic football that some people think a ball should be recycled backwards from a shooting position inside the 45m line and that they can't trust a player to have a shot at the posts. Playing the low risk percentages might be part of the reason why we can't see out these matches, its a fear mindset.