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GAA Discussion / Re: Down versus Mayo
« on: June 15, 2019, 08:12:30 PM »
I think Down could spring a surprise in this one, Mayo are on a sharp decline, a lot of old and tired legs in that side. Away from home on a Saturday night it’s perfectly set up for an ambush and I think Down quietly fancy their chances.

GAA Discussion / Re: Monaghan v Armagh Sat 22nd June Clones 7pm
« on: June 12, 2019, 11:27:34 PM »
McGeeneys last stand??

I don't think so. Has there not already been noises that he will be there next year?

I know they talked about extending it before the Down game. I’m thinking more along the lines that me may call time on it himself

Hard to see him walking away from the current squad and become the equivalent of the Two Brians for any incoming manager.

This Armagh squad are a mile off the team the 2 Brian’s left behind. That team were AI contenders for 3 years before Joe stepped in whilst the current team are a good bit off even challenging for an Ulster title. Has McGeeney taken the team forward, well the jury would be out on that one. The county board would reappoint him in the morning and there is no chance he will walk away. The clubs on the other hand will be questioning the wisdom of reappointing a manager who has won one provincial match in 5 seasons and who have yo-yo’d up and down between div 2/3 and who has never shown any real interest in the club scene. I would say he has done a decent job overall given the talent available but a bit like like Liam Kearns in Tipperary, there comes a point where the players may need a fresh approach.

GAA Discussion / Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« on: June 12, 2019, 04:30:06 PM »
I suspect that LOI clubs would not be able to afford what Jimmy might be looking for and in all reality he has achieved nothing in soccer that would justify them taking a punt on him. The Tyrone job might be available next year and that would be a good fit for him.

GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: June 09, 2019, 10:18:51 PM »
RTE have got far too PC of late, the analysis will soon be of the Jim Gavin variety, bland boring analysis with pundits afraid to say anything remotely controversial.

GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: June 09, 2019, 06:21:38 PM »
It feels like the GAA is at a crossroads. The disconnect between club gaels and intercounty teams is sadly growing every year and if the sight of vast swathes of empty seats at Croke Park and only 13,000 attendance between two top 6 sides yesterday in Ulster isn’t enough for the GAA top brass to sit up and take notice then I don’t know what is.

It shouldn’t have been allowed get to this but it now feels as though the elite inter county teams are almost playing a different sport.

The precedent was set with Philly McMahon and I'd expect that McCann will get the same punishment as he did (I don't remember what it was but it probably cost him POTY that season with all of the bad publicity). It was a nasty incident alright but at least it will give the media something in order to justify their analysis fees for the next few days as well as being manna from heaven for the moral outrage police. It will also serve to deflect from what was a horrible Tyrone performance.

Harte has had his critics but that defeat today had nothing to do with Harte but rather it simply laid bare the lack of quality in that Tyrone squad. They were deficient in the basic skills of the game and had run out of ideas before half time. The score line completely flattered them.

Harte is a genius for getting that team to an AI final last year.

McHugh having some game again.

Donegal giving an exhibition of forward play and off the ball movement in that first half, Tyrone have been shocking on the other hand.

GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Armagh (Park Esler 16:00) 19/05/2019
« on: May 20, 2019, 01:43:45 PM »
A entertaining game for both sets of fans and neutrals id say.
Armagh are their own worst enemies, with a baffling starting 15 and team set up and a style of play that doesnt play to their strengths. They invited a more mobile and fluid Down side onto them by retreating into their own half with multiple sweepers even when 5pts up which was beggars belief. Down worked a similar system but worked it better it seemed. Armagh barged down blind allies carrying the ball into a swarm of red n black and repeatedly turned ball over. Individual flashes of quality and a jammy goal saw them over the line but only just.

Down impressed due to their hunger and energy and clear commitment to a system of play that suits their personnel/size. They looked a well coached and disciplined side and the more the game wore on they looked the side with more belief in what they were doing, even if the sending off and black card derailed them slightly. This young side demonstrated alot of the qualities that have been missing in recent years and the lesser-known players really stepped up at critical junctures in the game. There is definitely room for improvement in that side and with a bit of momentum and a few wins they could form a decent side.

For me, Mooney shouldnt have seen red. Yes he has a duty of care to the man he attempts to tackle but with the speed/angle he was going at and with Nugent checking back inside, any contact was going to look severe. There was no clear raising of an elbow or arm to make contact but rather a shaping to shoulder which clearly was mistimed or misdirected. His direct running and ability to punch holes in the Armagh defence was a massive loss.

Down also have an issue with goalkeepers it seems and thats worrying.

BCB1, i dont know the ins and outs whet youse have done on Clarke up there but i have to agree with you. Its not personal but no player has any business on a county panel yet alone playing unless they are there representing their club. Dont play for a club then you shouldnt be playing for county.

Rory Grugan shouldnt be starting for Armagh due to form and he certainly isnt fit to capt an intercounty team. Lacks leadership, presence and above all he doesnt inspire at all.

Team selection baffles too. Morgan has to start but only if he is muzzled and can behave. Armagh carrying too many older heads that McGeeney seems very loyal to, fellas that arent as mobile or fit for the athleticism of the modern game. You cant be starting Vernon, Forker, Donaghy and Ethan Rafferty all on the same team. There are more athletic and dynamic players on the bench and when you see Vernon being brought back on again youd have to ask yourself some questions if you were a sub.
Goalkeeping situation is a joke with Jack Grugan being asked to fill in as a goalkeeper in recent weeks and the Oisin O'Neil named as no 16 on matchday. Something not right there, but then again everyone knows McGeeney has no time for Goalkeepers.

He also needs to look at his conduct at full time. The macho bullsh!t and chest beating precipitates down through that team and it comes from the management team. Down had an inferior team on paper and are behind in terms of their development compared to Armagh but if i were an Armagh fan id be rippin at how that game went yesterday

Coming from a Down man that is a good assessment of where Armagh stand. McGeeney still likes to go with physique over mobility and athleticism. Yet he marry's this by flooding the defence and playing a running game. If he is intent on playing a running game then he should be playing faster, more mobile & athletic players. Donaghy has never been the same after injuries and has been ordinary now for several years yet still gets the role of defensive general. Vernon is probably on the decline now whilst Rafferty does not suit that running game at all. Grugan was poor yesterday and does look a very unlikely captain because he has always appeared to me to be a confidence player. Lots of ability but can let things that happen during a game affect his performance.

Armagh were less than the sum of their parts yesterday and individual talent probably won them that match. O'Neill was brilliant on his debut and if Murnin gets back fit and Soupy starts as he should, then there is a seriously talented forward line there. But they need ball kicked into them to see them at their best not players constantly soloing head down. Burns had a good game on his debut in terms of winning possession yet he has an awful habit of putting the head down and solo running into cul de sacs which will not work against better opposition. The other lads like Kennedy and Nugent performed well on their debuts so you couldn't question any of the 4 new players yesterday, they were in fact 4 of the best performers overall.   

GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Armagh (Park Esler 16:00) 19/05/2019
« on: May 20, 2019, 09:45:40 AM »
Let's get real, the McGeeney incident was nothing more than a bit of a dunt, to say that he could have put a well conditioned athlete like McKernan out of the game is pure hyperbole. McKernan didn't complain too much about it. Caolan Mooney was out gesticulating and finger pointing and this was after forcing his team to play with 14 men for 45 minutes, he should have been hiding in a corner not out trying to start another row.

GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Armagh (Park Esler 16:00) 19/05/2019
« on: May 19, 2019, 10:20:51 PM »
The quality wasn’t great but the closeness of the score and the local derby element kept it interesting. Armagh done their best to try and not win the match against a very ordinary Down side and you’d have to question the starting team and the game plan from management.

GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Armagh (Park Esler 16:00) 19/05/2019
« on: May 16, 2019, 11:14:49 PM »
If that’s the Armagh team then I’m a China man. Geezer rarely ever lines out as selected it is just to keep Tally guessing.

GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Armagh (Park Esler 16:00) 19/05/2019
« on: May 16, 2019, 04:22:58 PM »
I have a feeling Armagh will win this game much easier than expected. Armagh narrowly missed out on promotion to division 1 due to a defeat to Meath early in the campaign whilst Down suffered similarly in division 3 only with a late defeat. Armagh simply have too much firepower up front compared with Down and they will be chomping at the bit to exact some revenge for the defeat of 2 years ago.   

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