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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 12, 2018, 11:58:52 PM »
Big mistake playing a weakened team tonight when you look at the calibre of opponent facing them in the last 16 now compared to if they had topped the group. Unless they get lucky and get Porto any other tie would probably see United as underdogs on current form.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 12, 2018, 03:23:31 PM »
Heard someone on the radio earlier saying that anyone talking about a border poll should learn the lessons of the Brexit poll - make a decent plan before asking people to vote!
Correct, I have not seen any plan from either SF or SDLP that would get me to vote for a UI, and I consider myself a republican, small r. I'd abstain.

In any UI poll, both of those parties should take a backseat for the following reasons 1) them shouting  from rooftops would alienate the 15% - 20% of soft unionists needed to carry a vote - Mary Lou and co will not be able to help themselves however 2) neither party has really contributed to the factors that has made the Irish economy and culture attractive to Unionists, so it should not be their plan or vision that is on offer

I think that this is correct. The poll will be won on the votes of the Alliance/ soft unionists. Hard republicans and nationalists will vote for a UI in any case.

If we have learned the lessons of old Unionist triumphalism, it shouldn't be seen as a victory or defeat by either side but rather a coming together of people that will probably take a generation to normalise. I hope that there is not a rush to claim credit for such an eventuality when it does happen, because the reality is that the DUP will have done more to bring it about than either of the main nationalist parties.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 12, 2018, 12:36:54 PM »
Tories about to knife Tessie? 48 letters in apparently.

Err..when I said 'knife' I kinda meant using one of them plastic knives that they give you at a takeaway, the sort that shatter whenever you hit a tougher bit of chicken or cod. Looks as if the Tory 'hard right' are going to get a good routing in this. PPs has Tessie at 2/7 to survive.

Have been keeping an eye on the odds, started at 1/4,  lengthened to 1/2, then 2/7, 1/8 and back to 1/3 now.

She has 100+ MPs out in support so I'd have thought she's as good as home

You would think so, but it is a secret ballot so nobody will know how each MP has voted. They can say one thing in public yet do another and that is certainly not beyond Tory party members.

I don't understand how a party so divided can still be together after all this. Surely the prospect of a split in the party must be a possibility now or are the Brexiteer fantasists just happy to sit on the ditches and snipe whilst not actually offering anything.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 11, 2018, 05:55:24 PM »
https://www.ft.com/content/7d5244a0-f22d-11e8-ae55-df4bf40f9d0d

Surely members within the DUP must wake up in the morning and wonder how they managed to score such an own goal by backing the Brexit horse. I'm very surprised none of them have broke rank and said that Brexit was a bad idea but like sheep they all towed the party line and had absolutely no idea where the whole process was taking them. I suspect that they never actually believed that Brexit would win to begin with but rarely can a party have self imploded in everything that it seems to do.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 10, 2018, 11:16:45 PM »
How long will it be before an increasingly discontented horde of pro Brexit English voters get seriously peeved with the Irish issue preventing them from the Brexit that they voted for. Previous polls suggested they would be prepared to ditch the north if they got a more favorable Brexit for mainland UK. A lot of them probably aren’t even aware of the level of finances needed to prop up the north’s economy.

If this becomes a major topic of discussion then it could steer the discussion towards a border poll sooner than we think.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:06:29 PM »
My son supports United and he said it's strange the amount of stick Jose gets from the press, given that he has won more trophies at United than Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea combined. Strange the relatively free ride Klopp, Pocc et al get.

If everything didn't look like such a chore for him, if he didn't constantly look and sound miserable, if his teams played decent football and if he wasn't constantly trying to blame everybody else for his own failings then he would get a much better press. He does get plenty of abuse but if you take the credit when things go well (as he always did) then you must be prepared to take the stick when they go belly up.

He was a cnut to a lot of people on his way up and for that reason I don't have much sympathy with him. But maybe I am a bit biased as I just never warmed to the man.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« on: December 07, 2018, 01:58:13 PM »
It's one hell of a story of Jim's life. I know him and his wife and kids and I remember how bleak things looked for him before he got the Donegal job. He had all these qualifications after spending ages in college and loads of self belief but no solid experience. He was sitting beside me at a wedding and he told me all his plans of what he was gonna do with Donegal and how he admired Mickey Harte and what he achieved with Tyrone.

i'd say that's why he is going to the US as his first soccer fits team coach job to get experience of being a head coach for the first time away from all the hype of Europe. Small fish in a big pond where he will learn his trade whilst earning huge money for his family.

I was amazed when he left Donegal first to go to Celtic as I knew how much living at home meant for him and his family but then even more shocked when he went to China but the man is ambitious and like Harte very single minded as Kevin Cassidy found out.
I will not be surprised if he becomes a top coach in the premier league some day. As he says himself above, its just people and life and managing them to get what ye need out of them.

However, unlike Getoverthebar, I think he went too far though with how he changed our GAA game and how we have went through a period of paralysis by analysis. Some can argue Kerry had wing forwards tracking back in the 70s and short kick outs and then many would say Armagh and Tyrone brought in a lot more tactics during the early 00's but I think Jim with his total defensive blanket changed our game forever. It has become much more soccer or basketball like I feel with it no longer a man on man scenario. Possession is king and so the joy of watching a player take on crazy passes or shots or try to beat his man is gone as there will be too many players back sweeping to catch him should he beat his man. Yes sensible and good defending but as a spectacle our game has gone backwards big time and I definitely lay a lot of that blame at Jim's door.
Even in his article in the Irish Times a few weeks before this years final about how he thinks Tyrone's best chance is to go ultra defensive, almost like that terrible low scoring game in 2011 was it? It almost sounded as if he wanted to still justify he was right to play that way.
Anyway fair play to him in the States and I hope he make a fist of it.
I'd say it's because he couldn't get a head coach role in Europe

I'd say you're right here, that combined with the financial package!! Dundalk have a vacancy at the minute and I'm not sure he would come under consideration for that job but it would have been an interesting prospect.

Has he even got full coaching qualifications yet, I'm not sure that he has.

The logical step would have been for him to take a LOI job at the likes of Finn Harps or Derry City (if qualifications even allow him) and learn the intricacies of professional football in a less pressurised environment. It would take a massive leap of faith to think that he can make a premier league manager but if he can prove himself and given his ties, then he could potentially be a Celtic manager at some stage in the future. However he is quite late coming to the gig and there is no guarantee he will make a success as a professional football manager.

Hope it works out for him though, always good to see a fellow Irishman doing well for himself abroad.

Is this a joke question??

No.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« on: December 07, 2018, 01:56:13 PM »
Few people have managed the financial package he is on.

Has it been released somewhere or what sort of money would he be on?

If it comes anywhere near the finacial package he was on in Beijing then it's winner winner chicken dinner for Jimmy!!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« on: December 07, 2018, 01:51:58 PM »
It's one hell of a story of Jim's life. I know him and his wife and kids and I remember how bleak things looked for him before he got the Donegal job. He had all these qualifications after spending ages in college and loads of self belief but no solid experience. He was sitting beside me at a wedding and he told me all his plans of what he was gonna do with Donegal and how he admired Mickey Harte and what he achieved with Tyrone.

i'd say that's why he is going to the US as his first soccer fits team coach job to get experience of being a head coach for the first time away from all the hype of Europe. Small fish in a big pond where he will learn his trade whilst earning huge money for his family.

I was amazed when he left Donegal first to go to Celtic as I knew how much living at home meant for him and his family but then even more shocked when he went to China but the man is ambitious and like Harte very single minded as Kevin Cassidy found out.
I will not be surprised if he becomes a top coach in the premier league some day. As he says himself above, its just people and life and managing them to get what ye need out of them.

However, unlike Getoverthebar, I think he went too far though with how he changed our GAA game and how we have went through a period of paralysis by analysis. Some can argue Kerry had wing forwards tracking back in the 70s and short kick outs and then many would say Armagh and Tyrone brought in a lot more tactics during the early 00's but I think Jim with his total defensive blanket changed our game forever. It has become much more soccer or basketball like I feel with it no longer a man on man scenario. Possession is king and so the joy of watching a player take on crazy passes or shots or try to beat his man is gone as there will be too many players back sweeping to catch him should he beat his man. Yes sensible and good defending but as a spectacle our game has gone backwards big time and I definitely lay a lot of that blame at Jim's door.
Even in his article in the Irish Times a few weeks before this years final about how he thinks Tyrone's best chance is to go ultra defensive, almost like that terrible low scoring game in 2011 was it? It almost sounded as if he wanted to still justify he was right to play that way.
Anyway fair play to him in the States and I hope he make a fist of it.
I'd say it's because he couldn't get a head coach role in Europe

I'd say you're right here, that combined with the financial package!! Dundalk have a vacancy at the minute and I'm not sure he would come under consideration for that job but it would have been an interesting prospect.

Has he even got full coaching qualifications yet, I'm not sure that he has.

The logical step would have been for him to take a LOI job at the likes of Finn Harps or Derry City (if qualifications even allow him) and learn the intricacies of professional football in a less pressurised environment. It would take a massive leap of faith to think that he can make a premier league manager but if he can prove himself and given his ties, then he could potentially be a Celtic manager at some stage in the future. However he is quite late coming to the gig and there is no guarantee he will make a success as a professional football manager.

Hope it works out for him though, always good to see a fellow Irishman doing well for himself abroad.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: December 05, 2018, 08:36:59 PM »
I'm genuinely shocked that people feel his behaviour is acceptable. I wouldn't want him near my wife or daughter.

Shocked that people aren't shocked, it's symptomatic of the age that we live in.


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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 05, 2018, 07:25:03 PM »
That line up smacks of park the bus mentality..... at home!

Maybe they will surprise us but there is just so little creativity in that line up.   

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 05, 2018, 08:51:39 AM »
Mourinho: ”All the teams they got better, Spurs was the team that did not make a direct investment, but the best investment is to keep the top players that you have. So every team got better and we didn't."

Wtf!!??

He is getting increasingly erratic and I think the situation has the potential to get a lot worse before it gets better. He is at war with his own players.

I think that only the CL last 16 qualification will keep him in a job this season, other than that he would be on the verge of the sack.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2018
« on: December 02, 2018, 09:01:35 PM »
Athletic grounds surely would have provided a better playing surface for a game of this magnitude, Omagh pitch is renowned for being a wet pitch and there were a few patches with surface water that players had to tread like eggshells around.

Not sure who the referee was but he had a very good match and despite both teams getting bodies back, it was a real battle with no shortage of quality given the conditions.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2018
« on: December 02, 2018, 05:25:14 PM »
Do yellow cards get wiped for Extra Time?

I thought Kieran Hughes was booked twice, but he wasn't sent off.

Must do, I think the Geeedore 7 also got 2 yellows.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2018
« on: December 02, 2018, 04:21:07 PM »
Micheal Carroll was best player on park. Thought he deserved MOTM.

Not sure what number Carroll was (7?) but Cassidy and Mac Niallais were the best 2 Gweedore players on display imo.

Carroll was 15

Looked a good player alright.

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