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#91

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by statto - Today at 02:57:55 PM

If there's a silver-lining to yesterday's performance it's that Armagh put on an exhibition on why the attacking mark should be ditched. Such a stupid rule.

Odd take. I think the attacking mark works. I also don't know why you would get rid of it because 2 Armagh players didn't have a shot.

Why does it work? It stops players from taking a man on and the art of 1 v 1 defending in many instances. I think the general concensus would be that the majority would like to see a player take his man on as that is what gets punters off their seats, not someone being able to take a free shot at goal or worse slow down the attack then kick it back. 

It does not stop that, you can still take a man on and many teams do. It does stop a man catching a long ball in and getting swamped by 3 defenders and getting turned over.

Any player worth their salt that catches the ball within 30/35 yards is going to take a free shot at the posts in the majority of circumstances.  The only reason you maybe wouldn't if chasing a game looking and need a goal. 

[Very harsh and don't agree with that at all, Jarly Og is well capable of kicking a ball over the bar from 35-40m on the correct side of the pitch given his kicking style.]

#92

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by yellowcard - Today at 02:50:50 PM

The talk of Jarly Og's mark is a red herring, if Jarly was given a bag of O Neills and stood on that spot in Clones till next Sunday he wouldn't have make that kick. Soup should have had a pop at his , but again he had just missed a similar one so he maybe didnt feel good about it. A wild wide and handing back procession to Patton was not the right option. When Conaty dropped short was a turning point I feel,he should have recycled, maybe bit of inexperience but the lad had a great game other than that and his wide at the last.

Very harsh and don't agree with that at all, Jarly Og is well capable of kicking a ball over the bar from 35-40m on the correct side of the pitch given his kicking style. If that was the case he shouldn't have bothered calling the mark in the first instance. I don't particularly like the rule to begin with but it is there to be taken advantage of where spaces in defence are tight in the closing stages of games.

It's a sad indictment of gaelic football that some people think a ball should be recycled backwards from a shooting position inside the 45m line and that they can't trust a player to have a shot at the posts. Playing the low risk percentages might be part of the reason why we can't see out these matches, its a fear mindset.   

I'm not so sure that he is. Jarly óg falls into the category of players we have that IMO are told to not shoot unless it's almost a certainty. You can see it in our build up play.  Quite a few of our lads are not going to attempt to threaten the scoreboard (in certain positions) and I'm sure the opposition know this too.

He's a natural midfielder and was an Allstar nominee 2 years ago along with Soupy. If supporters can't trust top players to take a free kick at goals 35-40 metres out but rather that he kick it backwards then we have simply become conditioned to a risk free, low percentage game. At what point do we roll the dice, when we are 70, 80 or 90% certain of a score. Nobody is criticising Kelly or McPartland this morning for missing big kicks, that's just part of the game. No guts no glory. 

#93

General discussion / Re: Holidays

Last post by Rois - Today at 02:48:55 PM

I always take the annual third party cover - not expensive.  I had to use it last year in Dubrovnik (rented with Sixt) and it was really straightforward as long as I got all the right reports from Sixt. 

I was very annoyed at the cost of the repair work that had to be done (total racket), but that's what the cover is for.  I think someone must have scraped against it when we were parked in a tight public car park in Montenegro.

Have used it somewhere else too (think in Geneva airport).  I don't think I took enough pics with that one - certainly none of the damage has been when I've been in or near the car.  Always got the cost covered.

#94

GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024

Last post by Rossfan - Today at 02:45:37 PM

Ye'll have to do a Kilkenny at this rate Sham.
A Longford acquaintance reckons he should be the manager because
"I could get them relegated to D3 and hammered by Kildare and wouldn't charge them for it".

#95

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by Keyser soze - Today at 02:43:03 PM

Armagh hadnt scored in the 15 mins before that. And tbh hadn't had many chances that they missed during that period AFAIR either so makes it even more hard to comprehend why they didn't have a go at one of those.

#96

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Footballers 2...

Last post by Laoiseabu - Today at 02:42:48 PM

People talking about patience ? If we sit and be patient we will only continue to regress even further . It's clearly obvious that we are getting worse and worse every year and every game that passes.
Our team at the start of the year was weaker than last seasons team . Our team at the moment is even weaker than the start of the year . Our team for next season will be weaker again .
 We are progressively getting worse in my opinion year on year . We haven't actually even hit rock bottom yet either ( when Timmo , Lillis , P Kingston , OCarroll all eventually go )
What's coming in is worse than what's going out . There is certain names creeping into the team sheet now regularly that I wouldn't even class as anything more than average club players
On yesterdays game we threw it away badly at the end but tbh over the course of the game Carlow could of easily scored about 6-22 instead of the 2-17 they got . That's a Carlow team that lost 4-19 to 0-8 to a division 4 Wexford team a few weeks ago in the Leinster championship . Carlow have lost the likes of Jordan Morrissey , Shane Clarke and Josh Moore since too to weaken them even further
It's honestly very hard to be positive when all I see in front of me is a constant battle for us to try and keep our heads above water . Division 3 next year could be tough if we aren't careful

#97

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by tonto1888 - Today at 02:38:09 PM

Yeah, that five penalty takers on repeat rule is ridiculous.

What's the rationale anyway? To be different from soccer?

Then you end up with poor Armagh lad who missed twice against Monaghan last year.

It's cruel sending a lad who already missed up again.

Callum comiskey. Not on the panel this year and I wonder if that had anything to do with it. Not that anyone from Armagh put any blame on him

#98

General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024

Last post by trueblue1234 - Today at 02:35:00 PM

The best teams on the field also happen to be the best ran off the field. 

On another note it's gone unnoticed this weekend that with two games to play Liverpool can't finish in the top two this season and from this position when the title was theirs to lose.

T,is nearly as bad as being 4 points up with a quarter of a game to go and somehow throwing it away. How Armagh managed to orgestrate that level of a collapse is remarkable. Surely one of the biggest bottle jobs in Ulster history.

#99

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by OakLeaf - Today at 02:31:21 PM

That's both his and Campbells in the one play. Campbell had missed a slightly easier one by a country mile earlier in the 2nd half.

https://x.com/cahairokane1/status/1789950367871947054?s=46

Were either of those marks 20m from the point where the ball was kicked, to where it was caught? I'm not a fan of the forward mark either.

#100

General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024

Last post by Look-Up! - Today at 02:29:15 PM

In between phone calls today, she'll be up the ladder trying to patch up that roof.

Can she tile? I hear Betsy from the canteen tiled over her own kitchen worktop.