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General discussion / Re: Sorry
« Last post by omaghjoe on July 01, 2016, 08:45:32 PM »
I don't see it as an attack on my faith - not at all.  You both have very different styles of communication. I respond in kind to smeloth  - which I shouldn't.

where does Logic come from in nature?
Good, as it wasn't meant to be. I apply logic as it's been taught to me I suppose. I assume you do the same in your day to day life. I'm not sure what you mean by your question.
Where does Logic come from? How do you know it's real? Is it found somewhere? Is there a mountain with 1+1=2 on it somewhere? I think OmaghJoe is asking questions along the same line....
I said it came from how I was taught. I've learned that if I walk into a wall it will hurt me, if I put my hand in water it will get wet, if I put on the light switch the light should come on. If it doesn't come on then there is a reason that it didn't and I will find out what that reason is. 1 + 1 = 2 because it's been agreed on. If someone tells me that 1 + 1 = 3 then I'll listen to their reasoning. I'm struggling to see how this answers any of the questions I've asked or strengthens a faith-based approach to life. Or maybe you have some other point to this that I'm missing?

Me thinks your being deliberately obtuse as you know life is way more complicated than walking around but lets apply logic to walking around. I walk you thru the conversation feel free to correct this at any point

Q Why do you walk?
A So that I can get food

Q Why do you need food?
A To live and be healthy

Q Why do you need to live?
hmmmm ...... to reproduce?....instinct?.....for a bit o craic? help out others? be the best i can be? aquire knowledge? admire the beauty around us?.......

Those might be your typical answers, maybe not, Now if you have never considered anything any deeper that fair enough, but logic dictates that you should and even if you have not, and just considering any of the things as "it just is" or "I just do", then your relying on intuition to live your life which when it boils down to it, is the same reasoning as faith.

Anyway lets assume you have considered the reasons for living a little deeper and at some point with them too you have to let go and say "just because", lets take the last one for example. What is beauty? and why do we feel it? Why do we want to experience it? what is the point of it? There are libraries full of reasons trying to explain these things about beauty but nothing is successful, you would have to say that at the end of the day its illogical to pursue beauty. Yet we still have relentless pursuit to see, hear and create it for no logical purpose whatsoever.

For me when you get to the bottom of these reasons for living, they where given to us by a higher power to experience this world (realm might be a better term) in.

My original question to you still stands waiting to be answered why are you here carrying out actions on a day to day basis? If you have logic for doing it what is the basis of that logic?
GAA Discussion / Re: Meath vs Dublin - 26/06/16
« Last post by seafoid on July 01, 2016, 08:41:19 PM »
Dublin are not virtually unbeatable. Mayo were good enough to win an all Ireland but didn't. The margins are wafer thin. 
I have enjoyed the tournament. Do you not think its a case of soccer never being off the TV. The more of it there is the greater chance of boredom with the sport. OK it can be tedious to watch at times but that is the case with all sport I find. When a good match is on its hard to beat and the same can be said for most sports. I think greater reward (champions league places) for winning the fa cup or carling cup would bring more to those competitions and bring better quality football, and reduce the champions league to a straight knock out competition instead of all the tables and then 2 leg knockouts. The same with euro and world cup qualifiers, far to many stupid matches just start the comp with the teams in a knockout type style and progress from there, instead of playing the same team twice and then maybe meeting them again when you actually qualify for the competition. I don't know I think I've gone off the point here, I don't care, too much footie on I think lol
GAA Discussion / Re: Meath vs Dublin - 26/06/16
« Last post by Lar Naparka on July 01, 2016, 08:27:22 PM »
Would any of the North Eastern folks have any idea if the Nationalist population if those Counties ?
I'd hazard a guess of 33,000 for Fermanagh.

PS " Londonderry" J70.... :-[
Reminds me of the quote by Peter McKinnity when he was asked what it was like to play football in Fermanagh.
"Football," sez he, " How can you play football here when half the county is lakes and the other half is Protestants?"
General discussion / Re: Is it just me or has soccer become almost unwatchable
« Last post by ballinaman on July 01, 2016, 08:19:53 PM »
Turn on your TV sligoman. What a game tonight.
General discussion / Re: The Official Euro 2016 Thread
« Last post by Boycey on July 01, 2016, 08:10:01 PM »
If it else happens for the rest of the game there's already been more entertainment than last night...
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Last post by laoislad on July 01, 2016, 08:07:32 PM »
Crystal Palace make a bid of 25 million for the black Andy Carroll....
General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Last post by ziggy90 on July 01, 2016, 08:06:57 PM »
Coventry going for UK City Of Culture.
GAA Discussion / Re: Meath vs Dublin - 26/06/16
« Last post by Lar Naparka on July 01, 2016, 08:05:16 PM »
Look at the margins of victory for Kerry and Dublin in those periods.
1975 7
1978 17
1979 11
1980 3
1981 7
1984 5
1985 4
1986 8

2011 1
2013 1
2015 3

When Kerry are winning it's business as usual, just their God-given right, with Dublin it's a crisis.
When Kerry were winning, they were completing on equal terms with all others. That is simply not the case with present day Dublin.

That Kerry team had quite a few advantages in fairness.

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Back then our lads were still using these.

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Actually, I think Mickey Burke still uses one of these to wash himself.
Where did you pick that one up?
It's one of the golden oldies alright. ;D
The controversy that photo kicked up took years to subside.
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« Last post by omagh_gael on July 01, 2016, 08:04:09 PM »
Interview with Michael Gove by Slugger a number of years ago on his views on Unionism in Ireland.
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