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General discussion / Re: Water Charges. How much?
« Last post by mikehunt on Today at 05:35:26 PM »
Why should water be free? Why? I don't understand this?

Who paid for it prior to Irish Water being set-up? If you know who and where they are, can you ask them to come back?
Mike, do you believe this type of stuff, or just type it for a laugh?

Its a form of tax. Country needs money and collects it through various taxes and charges.

Its actually ridiculous how there has been absolutely no debate about how to raise this money if Water Charges are abolished.
If people thought Motor Tax would increase, or Dole would decrease, or USC would increase if there was no water charges, then we might have a reasoned debate - instead you'd think its a choice between paying for water or paying nothing! Not to mention the "we already pay for our water through other tax" childish nonsense

Prior to Irish Water, how was the public water system funded?
Other taxes!

More money is needed to improve the water infrastructure. Has to be done. Has to be paid for.

It's a new tax. It's a pain in the hole. Nobody likes paying or enjoys paying tax. But most realise its necessary to be able to provide services.

How do you think the taxes should be raised? Let someone else pay for it?

Infrastructure is way down the list of priorities. Irish Water is another HSE style quango. If you're foolish enough to want to fund the likes of John Tierney's bonus and Dennis O Brien's offshore bank account then good luck to you. Plenty of rational people see it for the heist it is. Consultants, bonuses, gym, charging systems, meter installation contracts were all put ahead of infrastructure improvements. None so blind etc.
Right. So the water charges are going to John Tierney and Denis O'Brien.
That's even worse than going to the politicians!
How did they expect to get away with it! Thank god for PBP/AAA for highlighting this ruse. It's no wonder they're entitled to get their legal fees paid by us taxpayers given the service their providing
Indeed, the likes of Catherine Murphy, Mick Wallace, Claire Daly have done great work in uncovering shady dealings by this govt. You keep funding that quango like a good lad. Loads of fat cats are relying on you.
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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Last post by gawa316 on Today at 05:33:52 PM »
11 years ago tonight lads...where has the time gone  :-[
https://youtu.be/rfCJDJ_zUjg

still don't know how that Gudjohnsen chance didn't go in
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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Last post by J70 on Today at 05:33:51 PM »
Interesting read. It's by an student in Georgia, so I've no idea how accurate or realistic his analysis is, especially as he is not a law student. But stew will enjoy it, as this lad reckons Hillary will be recommended for prosecution by the FBI and Loretta Lynch has not ruled out a grand jury.

http://georgiapoliticalreview.com/opinion-why-hillary-clinton-will-be-indicted-for-mishandling-classified-information/
she won't be indicted.
the Fox echo chamber exists parallel to reality

She won't because the idiot in chief is protecting her, she should be but those pesky liberals stick together, she should be in prison right now, not getting ready to run the country.

How, at this point, is Obama protecting her?

Is the FBI investigating this or not?

Careful now. . . you're expecting a logical answer when there really isn't one to be found!!

BTW did anyone watch Obama's Correspondents performance? It was excellent :D

Very funny. The skit with Boehner was excellent.
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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Last post by The Stallion on Today at 05:28:05 PM »
Flanagan is rubbish, seems to have plenty of fans presumably based on nothing more than being from Liverpool. He's rash in the tackle and technically wanting, should be moved on as soon as possible.
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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Last post by thewobbler on Today at 05:27:23 PM »
Does not surprise me that the minor Feis sevens was handed this level of disrespect, its a pure disgrace where the Feis sevens at both senior and minor level has descended too, why not make a massive day of it and play the south down games in Pairc Esler, and the east down games in Newcastle, make it into permanent fixtures in the calendar where no other activities happen in the county on that weekend, and its compulsory to enter or punishments will be severe. Any team at any stage can decide not to fulfil a fixture and receive a fine of 100, hardly a deterrent is it?

Surely that's not dissimilar to people suggesting that the Railway Cup should be held in Croke Park and enjoy a six figure marketing blitz?

If the enthusiasm isn't there, don't try to force it. We've more important problems to get to grips with in Down than this.
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General discussion / Re: Best Museum you have visited...
« Last post by CiKe on Today at 05:22:07 PM »
I loved Te Papa in Wellington and Kon Tiki in Oslo

Yes agree, that one is awesome.

Normally i couldn't spend more than an hour in a museum - the walking slowly seems to kills me for some reason - but happily spent about 4 hours in Te Papa.
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General discussion / Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Last post by laoislad on Today at 05:20:51 PM »
I'm not sure which is sadder. John Terry's hashtag or someone following John Terry on instagram.
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General discussion / Re: Let's all laugh at Totteringham
« Last post by screenexile on Today at 05:14:56 PM »
I see Fabregas is in the frame for starting the post match pushing and shoving interlude... hardly a big shock.

John Terrys Instagram post from this morning is just embarrassing too #notonmyshift

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE7zETPCgy2/?taken-by=johnterry.26

Nonsense... others saying Costa bit somebody as well. Tottenham bottled it against WBA and again last night best for them if they kept their mouth shut and try again next season.

I think had they won the last 2 games they would be champions but such is life!!
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General discussion / Re: Water Charges. How much?
« Last post by Hound on Today at 05:09:57 PM »
Why should water be free? Why? I don't understand this?

Who paid for it prior to Irish Water being set-up? If you know who and where they are, can you ask them to come back?
Mike, do you believe this type of stuff, or just type it for a laugh?

Its a form of tax. Country needs money and collects it through various taxes and charges.

Its actually ridiculous how there has been absolutely no debate about how to raise this money if Water Charges are abolished.
If people thought Motor Tax would increase, or Dole would decrease, or USC would increase if there was no water charges, then we might have a reasoned debate - instead you'd think its a choice between paying for water or paying nothing! Not to mention the "we already pay for our water through other tax" childish nonsense

Prior to Irish Water, how was the public water system funded?
Other taxes!

More money is needed to improve the water infrastructure. Has to be done. Has to be paid for.

It's a new tax. It's a pain in the hole. Nobody likes paying or enjoys paying tax. But most realise its necessary to be able to provide services.

How do you think the taxes should be raised? Let someone else pay for it?

Infrastructure is way down the list of priorities. Irish Water is another HSE style quango. If you're foolish enough to want to fund the likes of John Tierney's bonus and Dennis O Brien's offshore bank account then good luck to you. Plenty of rational people see it for the heist it is. Consultants, bonuses, gym, charging systems, meter installation contracts were all put ahead of infrastructure improvements. None so blind etc.
Right. So the water charges are going to John Tierney and Denis O'Brien.
That's even worse than going to the politicians!
How did they expect to get away with it! Thank god for PBP/AAA for highlighting this ruse. It's no wonder they're entitled to get their legal fees paid by us taxpayers given the service their providing
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General discussion / Re: Water Charges. How much?
« Last post by ashman on Today at 05:06:40 PM »
Why should water be free? Why? I don't understand this?

Who paid for it prior to Irish Water being set-up? If you know who and where they are, can you ask them to come back?
Mike, do you believe this type of stuff, or just type it for a laugh?

Its a form of tax. Country needs money and collects it through various taxes and charges.

Its actually ridiculous how there has been absolutely no debate about how to raise this money if Water Charges are abolished.
If people thought Motor Tax would increase, or Dole would decrease, or USC would increase if there was no water charges, then we might have a reasoned debate - instead you'd think its a choice between paying for water or paying nothing! Not to mention the "we already pay for our water through other tax" childish nonsense

Prior to Irish Water, how was the public water system funded?

Loans from the IMF , before that loans from the markets & before that from unsustainable taxes from a credit fuelled "boom ". 
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