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GAA Discussion / Re: Who can stop Roscommon?
« Last post by deiseach on Today at 09:16:19 AM »
ye are talking about westbanks and eastbanks, are ye in the middle east? ye are landgrabin from ros and sligo, watch out galway, we could even see the statue of liberty in clew bay, hup ya boy ya, come on the rossies

And this is precisely why I'll never tire of the Ballagh 'debate'. Of course, it's easy to be flippant when it's about someone else. If the Tipp hatchetmen ever come looking for Carrickbeg they'd better bring something with more firepower than hatchets!
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by BennyHarp on Today at 09:14:23 AM »
Some of these players need to start taking responsibility for their own performances. A a  lot of them are now at an age where its time to deliver. Look at Mattie Donnelly and McCurry - they have taken chances and proved something and earned their place. Every player has to earn it and can't be played because people think they have potential.

Agreed, also he's not banished from IC football either. Look at McKenna, thrust into IC too early, didn't preform and was tactfully let go on good terms and welcomed back into the fold when he got up to pace again. I'd rather Coney goes out with Ardboe for a while, clears the injuries, defines his role on the pitch and comes back. For all we know he could be well relieved of being rid the commitment of IC football for a while. I can't imagine it's a whole lot of fun hanging around the edges of an high profile but unsuccessful panel for a few years considering how draining it must be on your time. When you look at the time and physical commitment Mattie and McCurry put into becoming first team players it's no wonder not every man is lining up to do it. It's not just enough to be talented anymore, you have to be a professional athlete without getting paid, that's the level Mayo and particularly Dublin have taken it too.

Much as I like Niall McKenna and was impressed by him on Saturday night, I think its still a bit early to be lauding, as a success, his comeback to the county scene after one good performance in the McKenna Cup. Is this the blue print for the future? Do other counties use this strategy with their best young players? Playing in the stop, start nature of club football in Tyrone will not necessarily help improve Kyle Coney's game. As Redhand Santa suggested, Kyle can "look great when given a bit of space but has always struggled in games with tighter defences". How is he going to improve in this regard playing club football? Personally, I think he is worth persevering with but, it looks like Mickey doesn't. Assuming it was Mickey's decision to drop him from the panel, then that's his prerogative as he sees much more of him than me, so that's fair enough I suppose.
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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Last post by theskull1 on Today at 09:13:44 AM »
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.
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General discussion / Re: The Official (no piss-taking) THFC thread
« Last post by screenexile on Today at 09:05:20 AM »
We never do it the simple straightforward way! ;D
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by nrico2006 on Today at 09:02:05 AM »
Dermy Carlin looks a cert to go.  Joe needs a bit of extra training to get in shape, wouldn't discount him just yet.  Maybe its the kick up the ass Kyle Coney needs to give him a year out.  As for Mark Donnelly I think theres worse.

Kyle Coney's senior career has been so stop and start that I think a year out would be the end rather than a kick up the ass. Have to say I am disappointed that he has been cut from the panel, such a talented minor and has on occasion shown glimpses at senior level. I would have loved to have seem him get a proper run of games in the forward line to see what he could do. Fair enough if he failed to kick on then let him go. Injuries have been an issue but I think the lack of that series of starts has also hindered him.

Raymie Mulgrew had a similar experience and we are now in danger of failing to find a place in the senior team for the outstanding individual talent of the 2008 minor team just as we did with Mulgrew from the 2004 team. I'm not suggesting at all that management is entirely to blame and of course great minors don't always become great seniors but Tyrone can ill afford to miss out on talents like these.

I would like to think Joe will be back before the season is out. Not too bothered about the others, good players and in the case of Carlin and Donnelly very good servants but I think we're better off giving the chance to younger players.

Very good point - I feel sorry for Coney and a few others who never seem to get a run of games that are afforded to other players. The likes of Coney, McAliskey, Niall McKenna, Rony O'Neill should be told you have 3 or 4 games whereby you will start, not be taken off unless injured and let us see what you can do - after that then we can make a fair judgement. It is difficult enough to hold a place on the Tyrone team without the fear that you will be first man off or you are looking towards MH all game to see if anyone is coming on...

Give these lads a fair crack at the whip and then they can have no complaints...

Exactly.  When players who aren't big favourites of the manager get the odd start they are looking over their shoulder for every minute they are on the pitch, and to remain on the pitch or get a start the next day they have to come up with a spectacular performance when in reality the odds on that performance happening are greatly reduced due to their lack of a consistent run and the obvious confidence that would be built with that.  There are some players in the panel who seem to get start after start irrelevant of performance, pretty unfair that others don't get the same chance.  Coney has struggled against tight defences and doesn't seem to have much ball running ability/pace, but in saying that there aren't any inter county forwards who thrive against the modern day tight defence.
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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Last post by Dunloy realist on Today at 08:53:41 AM »
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year
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General discussion / Re: auschwitz day jews. v nazis
« Last post by Old yeller on Today at 08:46:51 AM »
Benny, can you answer this question please?
Q.  Do you believe that the genocide of approximately six million European Jews and millions of others during World War 2, carried out by the Nazi party, actually happened?

Am I a holocaust denier, you mean? If I say something that goes against everything you've heard, them I suppose I'll be thrown in with them, along with those who see Elvis everyday. That's usually how it goes.

I'd imagine there were Jews murdered, as were other groups, but not on the scale which history books tell us. As for the gas chamber thing, I'm up in the air about that one. I've read stuff about these camps being work camps, and a lot of people died from exhaustion, malnutrition etc rather than being gassed. That's not to say some weren't gassed. But I don't know. But the 6 million, I don't buy it.

The thing is, it's easy to laugh off any alternative as nuts, but you really have to look at the bigger picture. Study the history of the Jewish race, their traits, discrimination, Nazi Germany, and what has happened since. Things like jailing deniers - you have to admit that sounds a bit fishy? History books, politicians, governments have lied to the people for centuries and still do. Just because it's in a book don't mean it's fact.




Holocaust denial is the act of denying the genocide of Jews in the Holocaust during World War II.[1][2] Holocaust denial includes any of the following claims: that the German Nazi government's Final Solution policy aimed only at deporting Jews from the Reich, and included no policy to exterminate Jews; that Nazi authorities did not use extermination camps and gas chambers to mass murder Jews; and that the actual number of Jews killed was significantly (typically an order of magnitude) lower than the historically accepted figure of 5 to 6 million.[3][4][5]


Im not asking you if you are a holocaust denier, I'm stating a fact. You are a holocaust denier.
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GAA Discussion / Re: Am I a GAA bigot?
« Last post by Hardy on Today at 08:24:34 AM »
I wouldn't be snobbish about any sport that would have me as a snob.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by LeoMc on Today at 08:21:56 AM »
A chance to plaay 15-16 games consistently with perhaps less expectation could be the making of him. He always struck me as a confidence player.
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General discussion / Re: auschwitz day jews. v nazis
« Last post by Hardy on Today at 08:20:42 AM »
On Hitler and his extreme antisemitism, where did it stem from?

From being an evil, cruel and stupid piece of shit.

That's being a little simplistic, why vent all this mostly on the Jews? He put a huge bit of resource into it all the same!
On Hitler and his extreme antisemitism, where did it stem from?

From being an evil, cruel and stupid piece of shit.

That's being a little simplistic, why vent all this mostly on the Jews? He put a huge bit of resource into it all the same!

I'm not denying he wasn't all of those things you mention.

Hitler had an agenda against the Jewish community because after WW1 when Germany was in ruin and dire poverty, he claimed they thrived while Germany starved. I'm sure one if a hundred reasons in his head.

Hitler didn't come up with that idea on his own. I think it was Hardy once posted an article that described how Jews moved into many communities in the Middle Ages and made money, much to the chagrin on the locals.


I'm not denying he wasn't all of those things you mention.

Hitler had an agenda against the Jewish community because after WW1 when Germany was in ruin and dire poverty, he claimed they thrived while Germany starved. I'm sure one if a hundred reasons in his head.

Hitler didn't come up with that idea on his own. I think it was Hardy once posted an article that described how Jews moved into many communities in the Middle Ages and made money, much to the chagrin on the locals.


Not me, AFAIR.
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