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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Last post by The Golden Years on Today at 01:33:46 PM »
Was at errigal game yesterday and have to say that the GAA as a whole is going to have to look at introducing a limit on the number of backroom staff that can be on the sideline and a technical area that they cant step out of. Edendork had 6-7 men walking out onto the pitch shouting instructions which was ridiculous looking.

What do clubs require all these men on the line for.  Surely with so many men shouting on instruction, this can only be confusing and counter productive.
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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« Last post by Taylor on Today at 01:33:31 PM »
Khan has fought and beat some excellent fighters but then again has been badly beaten 3 times.  Donaire is not as good as he was plus has been better at lower weights.  It is nice to see a bit of respect too but a lot of what went on has been cringeworthy.
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You'd much prefer McGregor's approach?

Carl has never been a trash talker as such and thats his nature.. As for the fight its was a step up from the last fight and while in control for most parts he di take a few punches, Donaire fought better at lower weights, as did Carl, so i dont see your point, yes he's older but not by much.

Needs a good title fight, he seems happy with his training program and the set up so far, hopefully that continues. I was unsure of the partnership at first but things looking good, If Carl wins another title that be some achievement..

Father in Law and my daughter were there and he was telling me they were drinking during the fights at their seats! This has to be a first I'd assume as Ive never seen it done before.. dodgy in the extreme

Who was drinking? The fans?

Nothing new in that at boxing
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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« Last post by Milltown Row2 on Today at 01:28:51 PM »
Khan has fought and beat some excellent fighters but then again has been badly beaten 3 times.  Donaire is not as good as he was plus has been better at lower weights.  It is nice to see a bit of respect too but a lot of what went on has been cringeworthy.
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You'd much prefer McGregor's approach?

Carl has never been a trash talker as such and thats his nature.. As for the fight its was a step up from the last fight and while in control for most parts he di take a few punches, Donaire fought better at lower weights, as did Carl, so i dont see your point, yes he's older but not by much.

Needs a good title fight, he seems happy with his training program and the set up so far, hopefully that continues. I was unsure of the partnership at first but things looking good, If Carl wins another title that be some achievement..

Father in Law and my daughter were there and he was telling me they were drinking during the fights at their seats! This has to be a first I'd assume as Ive never seen it done before.. dodgy in the extreme
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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Last post by theskull1 on Today at 01:27:49 PM »
Wonder did they get blood tested?
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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Last post by The Iceman on Today at 01:23:24 PM »
One of the most vexing things for me re Mickey Harte's group is that they obviously put a lot of thought into how they could maximise the perception that this was a 'GAA' group, without actually being in technical breach of any rules (that I can see at least).
The name, the location for the launch, the deliberate blurring of the lines between their position and the strategic vision of the association etc.
It's incredibly cynical stuff.

I think you have to try and put yourself in Mickey Harte's shoes here to try and understand his thought processes. My sense would be that Mickey, as a devout Catholic, will regard the legalization of abortion as tantamount to allowing the murder of the innocents. In such circumstances, he will use whatever influence he has to try and affect that decision. In that context, his concern for the issue around the blurring of the lines regarding the use of the GAA's name will carry zero weight.

By the way, I wonder will those 'Gaels' on here, who decry Mickey's intervention, on the basis of him coming from a different jurisdiction, consider their membership of the GAA on the basis that it has as its basic aim "the strengthening of the National Identity in a 32 County Ireland through the preservation and promotion of Gaelic Games and pastimes"?

Their position flies in the face of the spirit of that aim.

Harte coming from outside the 26 counties has nothing to do with anything, so let's put that one to bed. We've had a president from Belfast, and Martin McGuinness and Dana ran last time.

There's a glaring inconsistency that the No side never answer. If they believe that abortion truly does constitute "murder", why can't any of them answer whether they think women who have abortions are committing murder, and should be locked up in prison for such?

Presuming the No campaigners think all murders should be punishable by imprisonment, like.

Between 1980 and 2016, 170,000 Irish women travelled abroad to have abortions.

Are these 170,000 women therefore "murderers"?
the doctor or nurse who performs it is a murderer. The woman in many cases doesn't think it's a baby. Or does but is being coerced into terminating it. But a child loses its life. I don't think all the blame falls on the woman. There's a man involved in this whole equation too. We're all to blame on some level because we let it happen. But the act of murder in my eyes is solely on the abortionist.
Your line of argument doesn't take anything away from what is happening - you're focusing on the aftermath, we're focusing on the act and preventing it. We're not calling for these women to be locked up
Ordering a murder is equivalent to murder. If there was any consistency in your position and the position of "No" campaigners, you'd be calling for both the doctor and the woman to be locked up.

If you and "No" campaigners believe abortion really is murder, then it follows automatically that you would want to see those responsible abortions be imprisoned.

But you know this would play very badly with public opinion, so you carry on without addressing the contradiction.
and that means we should go ahead and let abortions happen how?
public opinion isn't a requirement for laws. Internet theft and illegal downloading of content is still theft but public opinion on it wouldn't agree... I don't see what your point is. "A ha I've got you pro lifers in a contradiction therefore all your thinking is wrong I win....."
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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Last post by toby47 on Today at 01:22:08 PM »
Monday mornings are always better when you pick up two points and your neighbors are beat 😄🤓

Sad to see what a once big club like Bellaghy have fallen to
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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« Last post by sid waddell on Today at 01:16:55 PM »
One of the most vexing things for me re Mickey Harte's group is that they obviously put a lot of thought into how they could maximise the perception that this was a 'GAA' group, without actually being in technical breach of any rules (that I can see at least).
The name, the location for the launch, the deliberate blurring of the lines between their position and the strategic vision of the association etc.
It's incredibly cynical stuff.

I think you have to try and put yourself in Mickey Harte's shoes here to try and understand his thought processes. My sense would be that Mickey, as a devout Catholic, will regard the legalization of abortion as tantamount to allowing the murder of the innocents. In such circumstances, he will use whatever influence he has to try and affect that decision. In that context, his concern for the issue around the blurring of the lines regarding the use of the GAA's name will carry zero weight.

By the way, I wonder will those 'Gaels' on here, who decry Mickey's intervention, on the basis of him coming from a different jurisdiction, consider their membership of the GAA on the basis that it has as its basic aim "the strengthening of the National Identity in a 32 County Ireland through the preservation and promotion of Gaelic Games and pastimes"?

Their position flies in the face of the spirit of that aim.

Harte coming from outside the 26 counties has nothing to do with anything, so let's put that one to bed. We've had a president from Belfast, and Martin McGuinness and Dana ran last time.

There's a glaring inconsistency that the No side never answer. If they believe that abortion truly does constitute "murder", why can't any of them answer whether they think women who have abortions are committing murder, and should be locked up in prison for such?

Presuming the No campaigners think all murders should be punishable by imprisonment, like.

Between 1980 and 2016, 170,000 Irish women travelled abroad to have abortions.

Are these 170,000 women therefore "murderers"?
the doctor or nurse who performs it is a murderer. The woman in many cases doesn't think it's a baby. Or does but is being coerced into terminating it. But a child loses its life. I don't think all the blame falls on the woman. There's a man involved in this whole equation too. We're all to blame on some level because we let it happen. But the act of murder in my eyes is solely on the abortionist.
Your line of argument doesn't take anything away from what is happening - you're focusing on the aftermath, we're focusing on the act and preventing it. We're not calling for these women to be locked up
Ordering a murder is equivalent to murder. If there was any consistency in your position and the position of "No" campaigners, you'd be calling for both the doctor and the woman to be locked up.

If you and "No" campaigners believe abortion really is murder, then it follows automatically that you would want to see those responsible abortions be imprisoned.

But you know this would play very badly with public opinion, so you carry on without addressing the contradiction.



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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by bigtogs on Today at 01:16:34 PM »
Any word of players going well at club level that Harte could be looking at?
Hearing good reports about Conn Kilpatrick of Edendork. and Johnny Harkin of Tattyreagh.

In our four games best 2 players I have seen was Connor Gormley and Darren McCurry. 
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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Last post by Taylor on Today at 01:10:32 PM »
The video of that young girl being attacked in Bangor. Horrible.

f**king rotten!! Women should be done for attempted murder.. hopefully the mob get them and Alison Morris has a campaign on it through the Irish news

so should the 'men' who were encouraging it

Anyone involved, but letís not get clouded here, both girls tried to kill her

and girl charged with GBH and got bail. Joke of a justice system

They were all refused bail I thought

Read they got bail and then went down to the local McDonalds and were smashing the windows

Edit...fat fingers - cant type as quick as Tony
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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Last post by Tony Baloney on Today at 01:10:00 PM »
The video of that young girl being attacked in Bangor. Horrible.

f**king rotten!! Women should be done for attempted murder.. hopefully the mob get them and Alison Morris has a campaign on it through the Irish news

so should the 'men' who were encouraging it

Anyone involved, but letís not get clouded here, both girls tried to kill her

and girl charged with GBH and got bail. Joke of a justice system

They were all refused bail I thought
She was released on bail and then re-arrested the same day and unsurprisingly then refused bail second time around. Reports on social media that after being released on bail she smashed all the windows in the local McDonald's. She sounds like a real charmer.
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