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GAA Discussion / Re: McKenna Cup 2017
« Last post by GrandMasterFlash on Today at 01:49:58 PM »
Am I right in saying that Armagh's scoring average actually went down after their 3 point win tonight. Before the game it was 43/28= 1.714 and afterwards it was 61/42=1.45? Seems a strange method to use to decide placings.

I disagree, scoring average is probably the best decision method as in considers both your attacking (for) and defensive strengths (against).

does scoring average not encourage defensive play?

based on my maths, you are better off winning low scoring matches than high scoring matches!

e.g. For 10 points
against 5 points
Average = 2

To get an average of 2 with a high scoring game would mean you have to win by a bigger margin to keep the same average.
e.g. if you scored 30 points, you would have to win the game by 15 points to get an average of 2.

Personally, I don't see the logic in using averages instead of scoring difference.

Am I missing something?

Correct, if you win every game by 0.2 to 0.1 you would have an average of 2.0 even though you only have a points difference of +3.  Also is it possible to calculate an average if you keep the other team scoreless?

Agreed lads - good points..
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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« Last post by Boycey on Today at 01:47:27 PM »
He's never shown enough to be picked every week?
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This is widespread and has been for years. I was secretary and then chairman on my club around the early/mid '00's and was quoted figures in excess of that by prospective managers at the time. Again, something that the GAA should be intent on stamping out but are perfectly happy to allow fester. It seems to be that if you say you're amateur and you believe in the amateur ethos then it's ok to get paid. I also wonder what are the Revenue Commissioners doing in all of this? Is all this income being declared? However bad it is at club level can you just imagine what county team managers are getting.

If RC or HMRC have been told about ANY payment made to a GAA manager anywhere in the Country I'd be absolutely astounded.

There's no point denying it I'd say there's very few lads on here whose Club don't pay their manager in some shape or form. What amazes me is the constant stream of lads who have been hounded out of certain Clubs year after year and then end up joining a decent club the year after for money again. . . the mind boggles!


Absolutely correct, excellent point.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Last post by skeog on Today at 01:43:28 PM »
Leo who are the players not in the team or squad who you think would bring Sam back.
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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« Last post by magpie seanie on Today at 01:40:48 PM »
I think Memphis is a guy who needs to play regularly to be effective. I'm sure he will be very successful anywhere he gets picked week on week.
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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« Last post by magpie seanie on Today at 01:39:45 PM »
I was being a wee bit harsh. Henderson is a good player in my view.
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GAA Discussion / Re: Average age of top six football teams.
« Last post by redhandofgod on Today at 01:38:35 PM »
Ronan O'Neill....the next peter canavan???????? Holy f**k
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General discussion / Re: Martin Mc Guinness
« Last post by foxcommander on Today at 01:36:13 PM »
The rest of us still see McGuinness for what he is. A divisive figure that did more to drive communities apart than bring them together.

And your experiences of Derry and NI in the 1960's and 70's give you the perfect basis for your opinion.
Keep going, your revision of history is very informative.
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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Last post by johnneycool on Today at 01:26:12 PM »
Any truth in the story that this is a Down team with an Antrim manager?
10k pa
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/outrageous-direct-debit-demands-club-team-pay-manager-show-gaa-lost-control/110163

Why not name him and the club then G?

If this is true then he was obviously comfortable with the club doing this with the players, so I dont think there would be any harm in naming him and the club?


Well it isn't us and I'd be surprised if it was any of the other two Ards clubs as that sort of news would go round the place like wildfire and the first I saw it was on here.

What's the wing doing this weather? :)
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General discussion / Re: Martin Mc Guinness
« Last post by Syferus on Today at 01:24:12 PM »
Syferus is a silly young gobdaw taking his views from British media outlets.
He's still entitled to his opinion and no doubt when he reaches 25 and his frontal lobes develops he might just learn that the world isn't one dimensional.
And by Jases in Derry it certainly wasn't from 1968 onwards.

I'll tell Michael Mulligan you're still genuflecting to your photo of Comrade McGuiness (does anyone actually believe he severed ties with the Provos in 1974 like he says he did?) in the mornings next time I'm in. He'll be well pleased.

The rest of us still see McGuinness for what he is. A divisive figure that did more to drive communities apart than bring them together.
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