Man Utd Thread:

[Ghost]

Ten Hag is one of the most negative managers in the league. He relies on moments of individual brilliance or something off the cuff to nick him a goal and then tries to defend it. No patterns of plays, just send the players out and hope for the best.

It was the same last season, Utd were a brutal watch for the majority of games. Only difference was he had Rashford's brilliance to carry them.

[nrico2006]

One of my main issues is the lack of an identifiable style of play. 2 seasons in and United hlseem to be just a bunch of 11 individuals playing their own individual way.

[Milltown Row2]

Liverpool will hammer them based on that performance.

One calamity after another

[Ed Ricketts]

Who is?

Couldn't be bothered with going back to square one with a new manager. Bar Dalot, Martinez, Hojlund, Mainoo and Garnacho plus maybe Onana if he can keep this form going, the rest just aren't good enough, past it, too injury prone or both.

A lot of United fans have time for Martinez, but he's added very little in the last 12/13 months.

In and (mostly) out with injury, and, when fit, he has been involved in some defensive horror shows. Does a solid six months from September 2022 through to February 2023 justify the esteem he's held in by supporters? If a wholesale clearout is planned then I reckon he should be very nervous.

[Armagh18]

Who is?

Couldn't be bothered with going back to square one with a new manager. Bar Dalot, Martinez, Hojlund, Mainoo and Garnacho plus maybe Onana if he can keep this form going, the rest just aren't good enough, past it, too injury prone or both.

A lot of United fans have time for Martinez, but he's added very little in the last 12/13 months.

In and (mostly) out with injury, and, when fit, he has been involved in some defensive horror shows. Does a solid six months from September 2022 through to February 2023 justify the esteem he's held in by supporters? If a wholesale clearout is planned then I reckon he should be very nervous.

In fairness it was a fairly serious injury and I think it was treated wrong by the club in the first place, he was good there when he was back, the difference he makes to United build up play is unreal. Would be one of the last names I'd want to see leave. Shaw is excellent when he's fit but that is few and far between.

[Ed Ricketts]

Who is?

Couldn't be bothered with going back to square one with a new manager. Bar Dalot, Martinez, Hojlund, Mainoo and Garnacho plus maybe Onana if he can keep this form going, the rest just aren't good enough, past it, too injury prone or both.

A lot of United fans have time for Martinez, but he's added very little in the last 12/13 months.

In and (mostly) out with injury, and, when fit, he has been involved in some defensive horror shows. Does a solid six months from September 2022 through to February 2023 justify the esteem he's held in by supporters? If a wholesale clearout is planned then I reckon he should be very nervous.

In fairness it was a fairly serious injury and I think it was treated wrong by the club in the first place, he was good there when he was back, the difference he makes to United build up play is unreal. Would be one of the last names I'd want to see leave. Shaw is excellent when he's fit but that is few and far between.

Games Martinez has started this season:

Utd 3:4 Bayern
Utd 1:0 Wolves
Utd 0:2  Spurs
Utd 3:2 Forest
Utd 1:3 Arsenal
Utd 1:3 Brighton
Utd 4:3 Wolves
Utd 4:2 Newport
Utd 3:0 West Ham

9 starts, 2 clean sheets, 4 bookings, 19 goals conceded. Of course there's bigger problems with United, but with numbers like that you have to wonder if some players are actually at the level you think/ hope. 

[smort]

Crazy game. Both teams a mess

[screenexile]

That was delicious!!

Palmer is a class player Dalot shat himself all night.

[Onthe40]

Utd need to get rid of rashford asap.. lack of effort when he came on was embarrassing
That's a terrible defeat for Utd

[Wee Barky]

Terrible defending in injury time , deserve nothing if can't hold onto a lead.

[gerrykeegan]

I would sell Rashford now for whatever anyone wants to offer. He has no interest in making any effort at all. I actually think he prides himself now in literally doing as little as possible.

[Cunny Funt]

Chaos game ended in a pure chaos. Unlike the match against Brentford United deserve at least a draw out of that game and did well to come back from 2 goals behind or be Chelsea were every bit as poor defensively throughout.

Chelsea got the luck deep into injury time with the slip by Dalot on the penalty and then United totally switching off on the corner. That group of United players should have a strong look at themselves to lose in that manner yet it sums United up this season.

Liverpool up next with a patched up defence with Martinez, Lindelof ruled out for a month and Evans, Varane going off injured tonight anything less than 2/3 goal margin win for Klopp's side on Sunday will be a surprise.

[gallsman]

Ironically, that was a much better United performance than the Brentford game.

Having conceded the penalty, United just froze. Chelsea had a 4/5 on one for the move that led to the corner before Sterling and Jackson managed to f**k it up. Palmer had been sitting in that spot for corners all night and they were miles off him. Just let him have a crack. Awful.

[Milltown Row2]

Utd deserved everything they got

That penalty was coming and the winner was pathetic to leave Chelsea's best player alone.

God help them on Sunday

[RedHand88]

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