Worst Irish person in History

[Canalman]

As mentioned earlier that proud son of Kerry Lord Kitchener must be in with a shout.

[Peter Solan the Great]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

[Banana Man]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

[Peter Solan the Great]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

You mean the treaty that was ratified by Dail Eireann democratically. Michael Collins was one of the negotiators along with others such as Arthur Griffin the founder of Sinn Fein! amazing isnt it the founder of Sinn Fein negotiated a treaty to split Ireland in two and his party later lead a murderous campaign to further reinforce the partition of Ireland for generations.

[Banana Man]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

You mean the treaty that was ratified by Dail Eireann democratically. Michael Collins was one of the negotiators along with others such as Arthur Griffin the founder of Sinn Fein! amazing isnt it the founder of Sinn Fein negotiated a treaty to split Ireland in two and his party later lead a murderous campaign to further reinforce the partition of Ireland for generations.

so we are agreed that collins signed over the north?

[Peter Solan the Great]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

You mean the treaty that was ratified by Dail Eireann democratically. Michael Collins was one of the negotiators along with others such as Arthur Griffin the founder of Sinn Fein! amazing isnt it the founder of Sinn Fein negotiated a treaty to split Ireland in two and his party later lead a murderous campaign to further reinforce the partition of Ireland for generations.

so we are agreed that collins signed over the north?

Arthur griffin as chief negotiate signed over the north.

[Banana Man]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

You mean the treaty that was ratified by Dail Eireann democratically. Michael Collins was one of the negotiators along with others such as Arthur Griffin the founder of Sinn Fein! amazing isnt it the founder of Sinn Fein negotiated a treaty to split Ireland in two and his party later lead a murderous campaign to further reinforce the partition of Ireland for generations.

so we are agreed that collins signed over the north?

Arthur griffin as chief negotiate signed over the north.

how could he have if you said it was done democratically by vote in the Dail, you are contradicting yourself. Fact of the matter is that Collins was sent over by Devalera, he negotiated the treaty, he then led the Irish Army against those that opposed the treaty and faced them down because they dared not to let northern nationalists die in a pogrom state.

Must be great living out in Mayo where the only time you seen orangemen was when they came to help Capt. Boycott. Fact of the matter is he left us to rot in the north and if it was available for your poll he would get my vote every time.

[Peter Solan the Great]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

You mean the treaty that was ratified by Dail Eireann democratically. Michael Collins was one of the negotiators along with others such as Arthur Griffin the founder of Sinn Fein! amazing isnt it the founder of Sinn Fein negotiated a treaty to split Ireland in two and his party later lead a murderous campaign to further reinforce the partition of Ireland for generations.

so we are agreed that collins signed over the north?

Arthur griffin as chief negotiate signed over the north.

how could he have if you said it was done democratically by vote in the Dail, you are contradicting yourself. Fact of the matter is that Collins was sent over by Devalera, he negotiated the treaty, he then led the Irish Army against those that opposed the treaty and faced them down because they dared not to let northern nationalists die in a pogrom state.

Must be great living out in Mayo where the only time you seen orangemen was when they came to help Capt. Boycott. Fact of the matter is he left us to rot in the north and if it was available for your poll he would get my vote every time.

Up on the list so but I think it is a nonsense.

[glens abu]

  Who the fuk is Arthur Griffin

[ziggysego]

Peter and Banana Man are giving me a quare laugh this morning.

[Donnellys Hollow]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

You mean the treaty that was ratified by Dail Eireann democratically. Michael Collins was one of the negotiators along with others such as Arthur Griffin the founder of Sinn Fein! amazing isnt it the founder of Sinn Fein negotiated a treaty to split Ireland in two and his party later lead a murderous campaign to further reinforce the partition of Ireland for generations.

so we are agreed that collins signed over the north?

Arthur griffin as chief negotiate signed over the north.

how could he have if you said it was done democratically by vote in the Dail, you are contradicting yourself. Fact of the matter is that Collins was sent over by Devalera, he negotiated the treaty, he then led the Irish Army against those that opposed the treaty and faced them down because they dared not to let northern nationalists die in a pogrom state.

Must be great living out in Mayo where the only time you seen orangemen was when they came to help Capt. Boycott. Fact of the matter is he left us to rot in the north and if it was available for your poll he would get my vote every time.

I suggest you actually read the Treaty debates: http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/en.toc.D.T.html

Everyone with half a brain knew before the Treaty negotiations even began that a republic was never going to be on the table and that some form of partition was inevitable. The establishment of the Boundary Commission under the terms of the Treaty lead most to believe that the transfer of land from the Northern Irish state to the Free State would eventually leave NI as too small an entity to remain on its own. If Collins had been alive in 1925 when the Boundary Commission commenced it's safe to say it wouldn't have turned into the farce that it was with MacNeil getting the run around and the report eventually never getting published.

The Civil War was fought mainly over the issue of 'dominion status' as represented by the oath of allegiance (which ironically De Valera managed to remove from the constitution when he came to power in the 1930s).

[muppet]

Must be great living out in Mayo where the only time you seen orangemen was when they came to help Capt. Boycott. Fact of the matter is he left us to rot in the north and if it was available for your poll he would get my vote every time.

He doesn't speak for us. In fact he doesn't even seem to speak for FG either. I'd say he is a Michael Ring man.

[Bogball XV]

Who the fuk is Arthur Griffin

Peter's irish dad?

[Banana Man]

No blueshirts up there I see.

How about Michael Collins, he was directly responsible for 100's if not 1000's of deaths.

Idiotic thread laced in the bias of a Fine Gael puppet.

well said myles plus he was linked to even more after the partition of Ireland, if he had not signed us over like lambs to the slaughter the troubles would not have started as the unionists would not have had a manufactured majority in a gerrymandered state to deny nationalists basic civil rights, so if your going to do a poll at least have the decency to hide your civil war blinkers

What will you nordies come out with next. You blame your own savagery on Michael Collins! Nally stand apologies your right it wasnt 3500 it was only a mere 2000 people that Sinn Fein/IRA were responsible for the deaths of.

Did collins sign the treaty to divide Ireland in 2, yes or no?

You mean the treaty that was ratified by Dail Eireann democratically. Michael Collins was one of the negotiators along with others such as Arthur Griffin the founder of Sinn Fein! amazing isnt it the founder of Sinn Fein negotiated a treaty to split Ireland in two and his party later lead a murderous campaign to further reinforce the partition of Ireland for generations.

so we are agreed that collins signed over the north?

Arthur griffin as chief negotiate signed over the north.

how could he have if you said it was done democratically by vote in the Dail, you are contradicting yourself. Fact of the matter is that Collins was sent over by Devalera, he negotiated the treaty, he then led the Irish Army against those that opposed the treaty and faced them down because they dared not to let northern nationalists die in a pogrom state.

Must be great living out in Mayo where the only time you seen orangemen was when they came to help Capt. Boycott. Fact of the matter is he left us to rot in the north and if it was available for your poll he would get my vote every time.

I suggest you actually read the Treaty debates: http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/en.toc.D.T.html

Everyone with half a brain knew before the Treaty negotiations even began that a republic was never going to be on the table and that some form of partition was inevitable. The establishment of the Boundary Commission under the terms of the Treaty lead most to believe that the transfer of land from the Northern Irish state to the Free State would eventually leave NI as too small an entity to remain on its own. If Collins had been alive in 1925 when the Boundary Commission commenced it's safe to say it wouldn't have turned into the farce that it was with MacNeil getting the run around and the report eventually never getting published.

The Civil War was fought mainly over the issue of 'dominion status' as represented by the oath of allegiance (which ironically De Valera managed to remove from the constitution when he came to power in the 1930s).

To be honest Donnelly I don't even know what you are trying to say. You start of by firing a broadside at me telling me to actually read the treaty debates, as if I had referred to them at some point when I haven't. Then as you continue to talk you back up what I say in that the treaty divided the island and left us in the north on our own. So are you disagreeing or agreeing, do you even know?

[Peter Solan the Great]

Must be great living out in Mayo where the only time you seen orangemen was when they came to help Capt. Boycott. Fact of the matter is he left us to rot in the north and if it was available for your poll he would get my vote every time.

He doesn't speak for us. In fact he doesn't even seem to speak for FG either. I'd say he is a Michael Ring man.

Imagine two Castlebar men up on the list of Irelands worst. There could be a good few more names on that list. At the races of Castlebar, the natives hid in their houses while the men of  Aughagower, Kilalla and the rest of Mayo fought for Irelands freedom along with the French. Do you know why you got the name fisheads?