Boxing Thread

[Milltown Row2]

Hmm... just spotted that the next Frampton fight is on FTA (Terestial) TV in the states.
Great for myself, however Im not sure if its a great move by his promoters, the fight is on the undercard of the Chavez Jr fight, but from what I understand it wont be shown on that package. This means that they'll be relying on the exposure of the FTA TV and their own marketing (Which is not likely to be much) and not piggy backing on the Chavez Jr marketing. Still I suppose maybe he gets his own (albeit limited) independent exposure.
When you consider where Carl is coming from to the level this fight is in the states you gotta wonder if its worth it. At that weight etc ATM there isnt the interest. Rigondeax is the best fighter in the division but he aint a big draw in the states so if he was gonna fight him it would likely be in Belfast. The most money he would generate is likely from a Quigg fight but it also is a fight that would take place In Ireland/England

On a side note Chavez Jr is a great draw but he aint no chip of the old block!

Bit mystified with this fight myself.... Be very little fans heading over also, so completely on his own... Is it purely American exposure (now limited if you're right) and big purse??

[The Iceman]

Hmm... just spotted that the next Frampton fight is on FTA (Terestial) TV in the states.
Great for myself, however Im not sure if its a great move by his promoters, the fight is on the undercard of the Chavez Jr fight, but from what I understand it wont be shown on that package. This means that they'll be relying on the exposure of the FTA TV and their own marketing (Which is not likely to be much) and not piggy backing on the Chavez Jr marketing. Still I suppose maybe he gets his own (albeit limited) independent exposure.
When you consider where Carl is coming from to the level this fight is in the states you gotta wonder if its worth it. At that weight etc ATM there isnt the interest. Rigondeax is the best fighter in the division but he aint a big draw in the states so if he was gonna fight him it would likely be in Belfast. The most money he would generate is likely from a Quigg fight but it also is a fight that would take place In Ireland/England

On a side note Chavez Jr is a great draw but he aint no chip of the old block!

Bit mystified with this fight myself.... Be very little fans heading over also, so completely on his own... Is it purely American exposure (now limited if you're right) and big purse??

I looked in to going from Seattle. It's not the handiest spot to get to, it will be hotter than hell and it's a rough town, close to the border, known for it's problems.
it's not the platform I would launch US exposure from but who knows what the master plan is here lads...

[omaghjoe]

Wouldn't be the handiest place to get to now old El Paso and it suffers a bit of rep due its proximate to Juarez don't know whether its justified or not, but it is a place that seems to host a lot of fights. Im guessing the opportunity came on the under card of Chazez Jr and they took it, not considering alot about the location, opponent etc just the chance to get the foot in the US door. Although if its not actually going to be shown with the Chavez Jr fight, it seems to take alot of that benefit away

Not sure if the promoters have a full understanding of how it works in America. I would hate to see a repeat of the McGuigan fiasco where one of our best fighters is cajoled into fighting in unfavourable conditions and loses against a mediocre opponent, especially when the rewards may be futile.

[BennyHarp]

Wouldn't be the handiest place to get to now old El Paso and it suffers a bit of rep due its proximate to Juarez don't know whether its justified or not, but it is a place that seems to host a lot of fights. Im guessing the opportunity came on the under card of Chazez Jr and they took it, not considering alot about the location, opponent etc just the chance to get the foot in the US door. Although if its not actually going to be shown with the Chavez Jr fight, it seems to take alot of that benefit away

Not sure if the promoters have a full understanding of how it works in America. I would hate to see a repeat of the McGuigan fiasco where one of our best fighters is cajoled into fighting in unfavourable conditions and loses against a mediocre opponent, especially when the rewards may be futile.

Funny, that ran through my head too. The money for this division doesnt seem to be in America.

[CiKe]

Wouldn't be the handiest place to get to now old El Paso and it suffers a bit of rep due its proximate to Juarez don't know whether its justified or not, but it is a place that seems to host a lot of fights. Im guessing the opportunity came on the under card of Chazez Jr and they took it, not considering alot about the location, opponent etc just the chance to get the foot in the US door. Although if its not actually going to be shown with the Chavez Jr fight, it seems to take alot of that benefit away

Not sure if the promoters have a full understanding of how it works in America. I would hate to see a repeat of the McGuigan fiasco where one of our best fighters is cajoled into fighting in unfavourable conditions and loses against a mediocre opponent, especially when the rewards may be futile.

Funny, that ran through my head too. The money for this division doesnt seem to be in America.

I'd say most of us thought something similar but surely McGuigan couldn't let that happen given his own experience?

[omaghjoe]

Aye youd think that Cike

Actually I just had a thought...could the aim of this to be as a precursor to a bout with Leo Santa Cruz? Maybe aiming to be on the under card of Canelo - Cotto in Nov?.......IF that is the logic then a least there appears to be some sorta strategy.

[CiKe]

Aye youd think that Cike

Actually I just had a thought...could the aim of this to be as a precursor to a bout with Leo Santa Cruz? Maybe aiming to be on the under card of Canelo - Cotto in Nov?.......IF that is the logic then a least there appears to be some sorta strategy.
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Not sure, some good boxers in division but it Def isn't boxoffice type stuff for wider America. No idea really on the numbers but i'd have thought they would both stand to make more headlining Belfast than that under card?

[DuffleKing]

Wouldn't be the handiest place to get to now old El Paso and it suffers a bit of rep due its proximate to Juarez don't know whether its justified or not, but it is a place that seems to host a lot of fights. Im guessing the opportunity came on the under card of Chazez Jr and they took it, not considering alot about the location, opponent etc just the chance to get the foot in the US door. Although if its not actually going to be shown with the Chavez Jr fight, it seems to take alot of that benefit away

Not sure if the promoters have a full understanding of how it works in America. I would hate to see a repeat of the McGuigan fiasco where one of our best fighters is cajoled into fighting in unfavourable conditions and loses against a mediocre opponent, especially when the rewards may be futile.

Funny, that ran through my head too. The money for this division doesnt seem to be in America.

I'd say most of us thought something similar but surely McGuigan couldn't let that happen given his own experience?

The fight is in an indoor, air conditioned arena

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Fury vs Klitschko confirmed for October

[STREET FIGHTER]

Fury vs Klitschko confirmed for October

Fury any chance?

[Gabriel_Hurl]

If Klitschko dies before the fight - maybe

[BennyHarp]

Fury vs Klitschko confirmed for October

Fury any chance?

Fury has a punchers chance but Klitschko will box the lugs off him and win on a wide points margin.

[JoG2]

Fury vs Klitschko confirmed for October

Fury any chance?

Fury has a punchers chance but Klitschko will box the lugs off him and win on a wide points margin.

Lesser men have floored big Tyson. It's his moment in the sun but there's a huge gulf between the 2

[BennyHarp]

Fury vs Klitschko confirmed for October

Fury any chance?

Fury has a punchers chance but Klitschko will box the lugs off him and win on a wide points margin.

Lesser men have floored big Tyson. It's his moment in the sun but there's a huge gulf between the 2

There is a huge gulf but I just don't think Klitschko will be taking at risks at this stage of his career and will stay behind his jab. Tyson has plenty of awkward ability but he just doesn't look like he is ever in proper shape. I seen on Twitter, his coach Peter Fury, last week, praising the work Tyson was doing in training saying he was on schedule to lose 2 stone in two weeks hot weather training. That's just mental if that's how he goes about preparing for a fight he's known about for quite a while. Though it's probably all bullshit...

[nrico2006]

It will be interesting to see Klitschko not enjoy the physical advantages over Fury that he does over every other fighter he has fought.  Klitschko is nothing special in the grand scheme of things, he won't be able to hide behind his jab against Fury either and will never have faced anybody with the unpredictability of Fury.  I can see Fury winning this.