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AustinPowers

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IN all honesty, can  anyone see Ten Hag  being still there next season?

I don't think  there's a hope in hell he'll be there come August, fa cup win or not. I would imagine his replacement  has been sorted out weeks ago

Ethan Tremblay

Would McKenna risk his reputation going to United or Chelsea at the moment with the state they are both in? Both are a poisoned chalice. 

He has done a brilliant job getting Ipswich successive promotions, and there would be little expectations of Ipswich in the PL next year, survival probably the height of it. 

If he had any sense, he should bide his time before going for the bigger job.  United are still going to be in some sort of disarray next season, and Ten Heg going is a matter 'when' rather than 'if' at this point. 

If he had sense he should let Ten Heg absorb and resolve some of the issues over the next few months (clear out players etc) rather than jump into a mess he has not created, and get trashed for it. 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

trueblue1234

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 24, 2024, 11:13:40 AMWould McKenna risk his reputation going to United or Chelsea at the moment with the state they are both in? Both are a poisoned chalice. 

He has done a brilliant job getting Ipswich successive promotions, and there would be little expectations of Ipswich in the PL next year, survival probably the height of it. 

If he had any sense, he should bide his time before going for the bigger job.  United are still going to be in some sort of disarray next season, and Ten Heg going is a matter 'when' rather than 'if' at this point. 

If he had sense he should let Ten Heg absorb and resolve some of the issues over the next few months (clear out players etc) rather than jump into a mess he has not created, and get trashed for it. 
If he doesn't take a big job now, and Ipswich struggle next year, which is likely, He may never get an option of a big job again. Expectations are prob low for both United and Chelsea now so you'd like to think he'll get 2 years without much agro given the starting point.
He could go to either and regardless of how they do, he will be financially in a different place. Even if they ditch him before the end of the contract.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 24, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 24, 2024, 11:13:40 AMWould McKenna risk his reputation going to United or Chelsea at the moment with the state they are both in? Both are a poisoned chalice. 

He has done a brilliant job getting Ipswich successive promotions, and there would be little expectations of Ipswich in the PL next year, survival probably the height of it. 

If he had any sense, he should bide his time before going for the bigger job.  United are still going to be in some sort of disarray next season, and Ten Heg going is a matter 'when' rather than 'if' at this point. 

If he had sense he should let Ten Heg absorb and resolve some of the issues over the next few months (clear out players etc) rather than jump into a mess he has not created, and get trashed for it. 
If he doesn't take a big job now, and Ipswich struggle next year, which is likely, He may never get an option of a big job again. Expectations are prob low for both United and Chelsea now so you'd like to think he'll get 2 years without much agro given the starting point.
He could go to either and regardless of how they do, he will be financially in a different place. Even if they ditch him before the end of the contract.

Aye two fair points there.  Financially there are few teams that could offer the packages than United/Chelsea could payout. 

In terms of another big job, could be a possibility also, but there are very few managers out there who has done what he has managed to do, and he is under 40.  I would say regardless of how Ipswich perform this season(bar catastrophe of course), a top half premier league team would take a punt on him. 

I genuinely think he would gain little success taking United at the present moment, and would do his long term career more harm than good. 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

clonian

Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 24, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 24, 2024, 11:13:40 AMWould McKenna risk his reputation going to United or Chelsea at the moment with the state they are both in? Both are a poisoned chalice. 

He has done a brilliant job getting Ipswich successive promotions, and there would be little expectations of Ipswich in the PL next year, survival probably the height of it. 

If he had any sense, he should bide his time before going for the bigger job.  United are still going to be in some sort of disarray next season, and Ten Heg going is a matter 'when' rather than 'if' at this point. 

If he had sense he should let Ten Heg absorb and resolve some of the issues over the next few months (clear out players etc) rather than jump into a mess he has not created, and get trashed for it. 
If he doesn't take a big job now, and Ipswich struggle next year, which is likely, He may never get an option of a big job again. Expectations are prob low for both United and Chelsea now so you'd like to think he'll get 2 years without much aggro given the starting point.
He could go to either and regardless of how they do, he will be financially in a different place. Even if they ditch him before the end of the contract.

And Brighton are meant to be keen on him too. That could be a better move in the long run.

In Chelsea you're guaranteed to get sacked and even if United have some plan to change the whole set up the media and scale of the job could just be too much for him.

Milltown Row2

Who in their line of work will turn down a 200% pay rise or more to work for a bigger company?

If it doesn't work out then you'll get a big pay off and someone else will take you

Yes career and all that balloney but it will financially secure his family for life.... 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

trueblue1234

Quote from: jcpen on May 24, 2024, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 24, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 24, 2024, 11:13:40 AMWould McKenna risk his reputation going to United or Chelsea at the moment with the state they are both in? Both are a poisoned chalice. 

He has done a brilliant job getting Ipswich successive promotions, and there would be little expectations of Ipswich in the PL next year, survival probably the height of it. 

If he had any sense, he should bide his time before going for the bigger job.  United are still going to be in some sort of disarray next season, and Ten Heg going is a matter 'when' rather than 'if' at this point. 

If he had sense he should let Ten Heg absorb and resolve some of the issues over the next few months (clear out players etc) rather than jump into a mess he has not created, and get trashed for it. 
If he doesn't take a big job now, and Ipswich struggle next year, which is likely, He may never get an option of a big job again. Expectations are prob low for both United and Chelsea now so you'd like to think he'll get 2 years without much agro given the starting point.
He could go to either and regardless of how they do, he will be financially in a different place. Even if they ditch him before the end of the contract.
Vincent Kompany just got relegated with Burnley and looks to be on his way to Bayern Munich now!
There will always be exceptions. And I'd say that is more to do with kompany's rep than his managerial achievements.
Look at Moyles. Can't see him getting another big job (top 5/6). While good managers can have huge impact, There are so many variables in that role(some outside your control) that a bit of bad luck could see you failing very quickly. I'd just rather, that if that happened, I was financially set up for life. 
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 24, 2024, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: jcpen on May 24, 2024, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 24, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 24, 2024, 11:13:40 AMWould McKenna risk his reputation going to United or Chelsea at the moment with the state they are both in? Both are a poisoned chalice. 

He has done a brilliant job getting Ipswich successive promotions, and there would be little expectations of Ipswich in the PL next year, survival probably the height of it. 

If he had any sense, he should bide his time before going for the bigger job.  United are still going to be in some sort of disarray next season, and Ten Heg going is a matter 'when' rather than 'if' at this point. 

If he had sense he should let Ten Heg absorb and resolve some of the issues over the next few months (clear out players etc) rather than jump into a mess he has not created, and get trashed for it. 
If he doesn't take a big job now, and Ipswich struggle next year, which is likely, He may never get an option of a big job again. Expectations are prob low for both United and Chelsea now so you'd like to think he'll get 2 years without much agro given the starting point.
He could go to either and regardless of how they do, he will be financially in a different place. Even if they ditch him before the end of the contract.
Vincent Kompany just got relegated with Burnley and looks to be on his way to Bayern Munich now!
There will always be exceptions. And I'd say that is more to do with kompany's rep than his managerial achievements.
Look at Moyles. Can't see him getting another big job (top 5/6). While good managers can have huge impact, There are so many variables in that role(some outside your control) that a bit of bad luck could see you failing very quickly. I'd just rather, that if that happened, I was financially set up for life

This what happens when you don't do well!

Graham Potter is set to receive around £13million in compensation. Chelsea paid a Premier League record £22m to Brighton. In addition Potter has earned around £7m in salary during his brief spell in charge.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

trueblue1234

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2024, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 24, 2024, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: jcpen on May 24, 2024, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 24, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 24, 2024, 11:13:40 AMWould McKenna risk his reputation going to United or Chelsea at the moment with the state they are both in? Both are a poisoned chalice. 

He has done a brilliant job getting Ipswich successive promotions, and there would be little expectations of Ipswich in the PL next year, survival probably the height of it. 

If he had any sense, he should bide his time before going for the bigger job.  United are still going to be in some sort of disarray next season, and Ten Heg going is a matter 'when' rather than 'if' at this point. 

If he had sense he should let Ten Heg absorb and resolve some of the issues over the next few months (clear out players etc) rather than jump into a mess he has not created, and get trashed for it. 
If he doesn't take a big job now, and Ipswich struggle next year, which is likely, He may never get an option of a big job again. Expectations are prob low for both United and Chelsea now so you'd like to think he'll get 2 years without much agro given the starting point.
He could go to either and regardless of how they do, he will be financially in a different place. Even if they ditch him before the end of the contract.
Vincent Kompany just got relegated with Burnley and looks to be on his way to Bayern Munich now!
There will always be exceptions. And I'd say that is more to do with kompany's rep than his managerial achievements.
Look at Moyles. Can't see him getting another big job (top 5/6). While good managers can have huge impact, There are so many variables in that role(some outside your control) that a bit of bad luck could see you failing very quickly. I'd just rather, that if that happened, I was financially set up for life

This what happens when you don't do well!

Graham Potter is set to receive around £13million in compensation. Chelsea paid a Premier League record £22m to Brighton. In addition Potter has earned around £7m in salary during his brief spell in charge.

That's my point. They took the big chance, and even with flunking in it, their set for life.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Cunny Funt

Quote from: AustinPowers on May 24, 2024, 11:00:33 AMIN all honesty, can  anyone see Ten Hag  being still there next season?

I don't think  there's a hope in hell he'll be there come August, fa cup win or not. I would imagine his replacement  has been sorted out weeks ago

Having watched his FA Cup final press conference he doesn't sound like a manager that's departing.  Looking at those touted in the media to replace him none would be much of a upgrade and few would be down grades.   

On McKenna did a decent job as coach when Ole was United manager and has done well with ipswich he'll have plenty of interest from lots of clubs now but might stick with Ipswich for another year and avoiding relegation with them would be another successfully season

square_ball

Leaking that your sacking your manager 24 hours before a cup final is a maybe a good omen. Didn't Van Gaal win the cup a few years ago knowing he was getting the P45?

Turf

Quote from: square_ball on May 24, 2024, 03:13:15 PMLeaking that your sacking your manager 24 hours before a cup final is a maybe a good omen. Didn't Van Gaal win the cup a few years ago knowing he was getting the P45?
Banter club.

Nanderson

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 24, 2024, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 24, 2024, 11:00:33 AMIN all honesty, can  anyone see Ten Hag  being still there next season?

I don't think  there's a hope in hell he'll be there come August, fa cup win or not. I would imagine his replacement  has been sorted out weeks ago

Having watched his FA Cup final press conference he doesn't sound like a manager that's departing.  Looking at those touted in the media to replace him none would be much of a upgrade and few would be down grades.   

On McKenna did a decent job as coach when Ole was United manager and has done well with ipswich he'll have plenty of interest from lots of clubs now but might stick with Ipswich for another year and avoiding relegation with them would be another successfully season
There were leaks when he was a coach that his trainings weren't very good. Has maybe improved but he was already thrown under the bus before to help sack Ole by the players

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Turf on May 24, 2024, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: square_ball on May 24, 2024, 03:13:15 PMLeaking that your sacking your manager 24 hours before a cup final is a maybe a good omen. Didn't Van Gaal win the cup a few years ago knowing he was getting the P45?
Banter club.

Should be some banter next season  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

clonian

Quote from: Nanderson on May 24, 2024, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 24, 2024, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 24, 2024, 11:00:33 AMIN all honesty, can  anyone see Ten Hag  being still there next season?

I don't think  there's a hope in hell he'll be there come August, fa cup win or not. I would imagine his replacement  has been sorted out weeks ago

Having watched his FA Cup final press conference he doesn't sound like a manager that's departing.  Looking at those touted in the media to replace him none would be much of a upgrade and few would be down grades. 

On McKenna did a decent job as coach when Ole was United manager and has done well with ipswich he'll have plenty of interest from lots of clubs now but might stick with Ipswich for another year and avoiding relegation with them would be another successfully season
There were leaks when he was a coach that his trainings weren't very good. Has maybe improved but he was already thrown under the bus before to help sack Ole by the players

Others said his and Carrick's training was very good but the message wasn't getting through to the clampits that were playing. Or the few that weren't playing were happy to leak out stuff to undermine the coaches too.