Man Utd Thread:

[Milltown Row2]

That was a nice Paddy's day...

Utd have to go and win it now, beating the second best team 4-3 should give them confidence against City in the final, should they win the semi.

[RedHand88]

Sometimes adversity, or desperation brings out the best in a team.
Conceding two deflected goals, a patchwork defence, eventually with Bruno standing in at centre half. Maguire, Antony, Diallo and Maguire the unlikely heroes off the bench.

Liverpool looked electric for a while around when they plundered the two goals, but they were flat for long parts too.

It could be a sliding door moment in the two clubs' fortunes.
When Klopp goes, the underinvestment from Liverpool's tightwad owners will likely be laid bare.
A rebuild is needed anyway with Salah and Van Dijk nearing the exit.
In the 11 years since Ferguson retired and Utd imploded, Liverpool have only plundered a single league title, and when the Klopp fog clears, that shouldn't be viewed as hectic by any standard.

On the other hand, the INEOS regime at Utd have changed course and started to assemble a back office of people with a successful track record in running clubs, unlike the Goldman Sachs banker types which the Glazers had running the show.

This a bit embarrassing.

[Armamike]

Sometimes adversity, or desperation brings out the best in a team.
Conceding two deflected goals, a patchwork defence, eventually with Bruno standing in at centre half. Maguire, Antony, Diallo and Maguire the unlikely heroes off the bench.

Liverpool looked electric for a while around when they plundered the two goals, but they were flat for long parts too.

It could be a sliding door moment in the two clubs' fortunes.
When Klopp goes, the underinvestment from Liverpool's tightwad owners will likely be laid bare.
A rebuild is needed anyway with Salah and Van Dijk nearing the exit.
In the 11 years since Ferguson retired and Utd imploded, Liverpool have only plundered a single league title, and when the Klopp fog clears, that shouldn't be viewed as hectic by any standard.

On the other hand, the INEOS regime at Utd have changed course and started to assemble a back office of people with a successful track record in running clubs, unlike the Goldman Sachs banker types which the Glazers had running the show.

Dear oh.

[yellowcard]

Sometimes adversity, or desperation brings out the best in a team.
Conceding two deflected goals, a patchwork defence, eventually with Bruno standing in at centre half. Maguire, Antony, Diallo and Maguire the unlikely heroes off the bench.

Liverpool looked electric for a while around when they plundered the two goals, but they were flat for long parts too.

It could be a sliding door moment in the two clubs' fortunes.
When Klopp goes, the underinvestment from Liverpool's tightwad owners will likely be laid bare.
A rebuild is needed anyway with Salah and Van Dijk nearing the exit.
In the 11 years since Ferguson retired and Utd imploded, Liverpool have only plundered a single league title, and when the Klopp fog clears, that shouldn't be viewed as hectic by any standard.

On the other hand, the INEOS regime at Utd have changed course and started to assemble a back office of people with a successful track record in running clubs, unlike the Goldman Sachs banker types which the Glazers had running the show.

I'd agree that Liverpool will go into decline after Klopp leaves, he has them punching well above their weight.

However I see no evidence to date that a few lads who were successful in a cycling team can turn Uniteds fortunes around. Certainly it will take a lot more than a cup win to convince me anyway.

[jcpen]

I'd be very surprised if Liverpool go into decline, structures are already been put into place with Michael Edwards coming back. They are a well run club and not like when Ferguson left Man United whom definitely had them punching above their weight near the end, but it was also evident when he left that Man United had turned into a very badly run club.
I think Liverpool will be fine. Might take a season to re adjust but I can't see a Man United type fall from grace happen after Klopp leaves.
As for yesterday being a sliding doors moment    that's just ridiculous.

[Substandard]

It will be interesting to see what happens.  A lot depends on what's happening with clubs around them.  There could be a seamless enough transition because there are a lot of talented young lads there, but some big names in big positions to be replaced.  If United, Arsenal aren't progressing fast enough,  then Liverpool will get away with more leeway.
If Arsenal can establish themselves as the prime contender against City, and I'm hoping that Utd can improve in the next couple of seasons,  then that would really up the pressure on Liverpool to keep the consistency they have shown, and there could be potential to fall back.
Real Madrid and Bayern Munich probably the only 2 clubs due to relative scale within their own leagues that would be insulated against a significant longterm falling away.  I think City post Guardiola could possibly go into a severe tailspin, especially if there was anything to come out of FFP or the likes. 

[RedHand88]

Has the fan doing the gesture been named or arrested yet?

[Cunny Funt]

Sometimes adversity, or desperation brings out the best in a team.
Conceding two deflected goals, a patchwork defence, eventually with Bruno standing in at centre half. Maguire, Antony, Diallo and Maguire the unlikely heroes off the bench.

Liverpool looked electric for a while around when they plundered the two goals, but they were flat for long parts too.

It could be a sliding door moment in the two clubs' fortunes.
When Klopp goes, the underinvestment from Liverpool's tightwad owners will likely be laid bare.
A rebuild is needed anyway with Salah and Van Dijk nearing the exit.
In the 11 years since Ferguson retired and Utd imploded, Liverpool have only plundered a single league title, and when the Klopp fog clears, that shouldn't be viewed as hectic by any standard.

On the other hand, the INEOS regime at Utd have changed course and started to assemble a back office of people with a successful track record in running clubs, unlike the Goldman Sachs banker types which the Glazers had running the show.

The decade of damage done by the Glazers since Ferguson retired will be no short term fix by INEOS it will likely take years to be competitive and a consistent top team again with plenty of transfer window business required.

I wouldn't say it's been underinvestment by Liverpool as they  have spent big when needed and make good money on their transfers out. Michael Edwards was as good behind the scenes as Klopp was a manager and they are a club with the right structures in place whereby they should find the right and suitable replacement. Edwards left and now coming back with Klopp going suggests a fall out between the two however.

Going back to yesterday's cup classic. A deserved win as in the 1st half and all of extra time United was the better team in that match.  Liverpool was rather fortunate to be leading at half time so that somewhat balanced itself out for not scoring 2nd half. I think the deflected goal for Liverpool was their only shot on goal in extra time.  2-3 behind and winning 4-3 with a back four of Dalot,Maguire,Bruno Fernandez,Antony was truly remarkable. Very few teams from that situation would push on to win.

Could be sliding doors moment for Ten Hag, a good first season for him and this season has been hampered by injuries and remains to be seen how he does if and when the club gets proper structures in truth few would have done much better with the cards he's been dealt with.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

United fans big fans of Sliding Doors 🤣🤣

[AustinPowers]

United fans big fans of Sliding Doors 🤣🤣

It's more like revolving doors given the amount  of crap that has  come and   gone in recent seasons

[snoopdog]

Southgate again linked to the utd job. That would be a disastrous appointment. Hopefully it's nonsense.

[Armamike]

Goldbridge isn't happy 😁

[jcpen]

Goldbridge isn't happy 😁

It would be worth Southgate becoming manager just to get that idiot off the social media, he's an absolute dose.

[NAG1]

Goldbridge isn't happy 😁

It would be worth Southgate becoming manager just to get that idiot off the social media, he's an absolute dose.

Total dose and has been called out on numerous occasions for some of his bullshit.

That being said I would not be a fan of appointing Southgate.

[AustinPowers]

Southgate again linked to the utd job. That would be a disastrous appointment. Hopefully it's nonsense.

I thought Southgate would  have come in after  the last   World Cup.  I still think he'll be the one United go for when  ETH goes.