April Jones abduction

[Milltown Row2]

People get away with child abduction, rape and murder in war. It happens on a regular basis in various parts of Africa.

Do those soldiers need castrated etc etc?

Of course they do but we can only deal with our own country, whatever one that is, there a debate on that on another thread!!

[haveaharp]

I wonder what the evidence is against this guy ? You would imagine there must be some forensics linking the child to the car.

[Milltown Row2]

I wonder what the evidence is against this guy ? You would imagine there must be some forensics linking the child to the car.

The kid was in his car during the week before she was abducted

[haveaharp]

I wonder what the evidence is against this guy ? You would imagine there must be some forensics linking the child to the car.

The kid was in his car during the week before she was abducted

I didnt know that. If no body the case could be flimsy.

[Mentalman]

I wonder what the evidence is against this guy ? You would imagine there must be some forensics linking the child to the car.

The kid was in his car during the week before she was abducted

I didnt know that. If no body the case could be flimsy.

Either that or they have stronger forensic evidence i.e. stronger than just proving her presence in the vehicle

[seafoid]

From MerrionStreet.ie



http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2011/04/minister-shatter-releases-figures-on-cases-dealt-with-by-central-authority-for-child-abduction/

However this only covers abductions which cross international borders and includes cases which abducted children are brought into the Republic, and also carryover cases from the previous year - but generally an average of more than one case with each case having one child or more sees children abducted in Ireland and going outside the state. Interestingly the main perpetrators are one of the parents of the children involved.

It would be useful to strip those cases out for the purposes of this discussion. Tug-of-love cases are a long way removed from paedos or sex trafficking.

It would be very interesting,Deiseach. I can't see loads of kids being abducted by strangers in cavan every year. Maybe myles' kids don't like cycling. Private eye does a skit of internet discussion boards and one of the lines is 'anyone comes near my.kids and I swear I'll do time'. It is a very emotive subject but It is easy to get carried away imo.

[Milltown Row2]

From MerrionStreet.ie



http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2011/04/minister-shatter-releases-figures-on-cases-dealt-with-by-central-authority-for-child-abduction/

However this only covers abductions which cross international borders and includes cases which abducted children are brought into the Republic, and also carryover cases from the previous year - but generally an average of more than one case with each case having one child or more sees children abducted in Ireland and going outside the state. Interestingly the main perpetrators are one of the parents of the children involved.

It would be useful to strip those cases out for the purposes of this discussion. Tug-of-love cases are a long way removed from paedos or sex trafficking.

It would be very interesting,Deiseach. I can't see loads of kids being abducted by strangers in cavan every year. Maybe myles' kids don't like cycling. Private eye does a skit of internet discussion boards and one of the lines is 'anyone comes near my.kids and I swear I'll do time'. It is a very emotive subject but It is easy to get carried away imo.

I would like to think your not making light of kids being abducted, I'd like to see the stats on kids being molested in Ireland. Be quite high

[mylestheslasher]

From MerrionStreet.ie



http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2011/04/minister-shatter-releases-figures-on-cases-dealt-with-by-central-authority-for-child-abduction/

However this only covers abductions which cross international borders and includes cases which abducted children are brought into the Republic, and also carryover cases from the previous year - but generally an average of more than one case with each case having one child or more sees children abducted in Ireland and going outside the state. Interestingly the main perpetrators are one of the parents of the children involved.

It would be useful to strip those cases out for the purposes of this discussion. Tug-of-love cases are a long way removed from paedos or sex trafficking.

It would be very interesting,Deiseach. I can't see loads of kids being abducted by strangers in cavan every year. Maybe myles' kids don't like cycling. Private eye does a skit of internet discussion boards and one of the lines is 'anyone comes near my.kids and I swear I'll do time'. It is a very emotive subject but It is easy to get carried away imo.

Listen seafoid. I discuss my kids, you don't is that clear. I don't live in Cavan either, I live in Sligo - understand. My eldest is 5, too young to cycle roads but thats no concern of yours.

[thebigfella]

From MerrionStreet.ie



http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2011/04/minister-shatter-releases-figures-on-cases-dealt-with-by-central-authority-for-child-abduction/

However this only covers abductions which cross international borders and includes cases which abducted children are brought into the Republic, and also carryover cases from the previous year - but generally an average of more than one case with each case having one child or more sees children abducted in Ireland and going outside the state. Interestingly the main perpetrators are one of the parents of the children involved.

It would be useful to strip those cases out for the purposes of this discussion. Tug-of-love cases are a long way removed from paedos or sex trafficking.

It would be very interesting,Deiseach. I can't see loads of kids being abducted by strangers in cavan every year. Maybe myles' kids don't like cycling. Private eye does a skit of internet discussion boards and one of the lines is 'anyone comes near my.kids and I swear I'll do time'. It is a very emotive subject but It is easy to get carried away imo.

Listen seafoid. I discuss my kids, you don't is that clear. I don't live in Cavan either, I live in Sligo - understand. My eldest is 5, too young to cycle roads but thats no concern of yours.

Oh dear god, grow up for fcuk sake.

[mylestheslasher]

From MerrionStreet.ie



http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2011/04/minister-shatter-releases-figures-on-cases-dealt-with-by-central-authority-for-child-abduction/

However this only covers abductions which cross international borders and includes cases which abducted children are brought into the Republic, and also carryover cases from the previous year - but generally an average of more than one case with each case having one child or more sees children abducted in Ireland and going outside the state. Interestingly the main perpetrators are one of the parents of the children involved.

It would be useful to strip those cases out for the purposes of this discussion. Tug-of-love cases are a long way removed from paedos or sex trafficking.

It would be very interesting,Deiseach. I can't see loads of kids being abducted by strangers in cavan every year. Maybe myles' kids don't like cycling. Private eye does a skit of internet discussion boards and one of the lines is 'anyone comes near my.kids and I swear I'll do time'. It is a very emotive subject but It is easy to get carried away imo.

Listen seafoid. I discuss my kids, you don't is that clear. I don't live in Cavan either, I live in Sligo - understand. My eldest is 5, too young to cycle roads but thats no concern of yours.

Oh dear god, grow up for fcuk sake.

When ignorant ass like you is disagreeing with me its a sure sign I'm right.

[thebigfella]

From MerrionStreet.ie



http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2011/04/minister-shatter-releases-figures-on-cases-dealt-with-by-central-authority-for-child-abduction/

However this only covers abductions which cross international borders and includes cases which abducted children are brought into the Republic, and also carryover cases from the previous year - but generally an average of more than one case with each case having one child or more sees children abducted in Ireland and going outside the state. Interestingly the main perpetrators are one of the parents of the children involved.

It would be useful to strip those cases out for the purposes of this discussion. Tug-of-love cases are a long way removed from paedos or sex trafficking.

It would be very interesting,Deiseach. I can't see loads of kids being abducted by strangers in cavan every year. Maybe myles' kids don't like cycling. Private eye does a skit of internet discussion boards and one of the lines is 'anyone comes near my.kids and I swear I'll do time'. It is a very emotive subject but It is easy to get carried away imo.

Listen seafoid. I discuss my kids, you don't is that clear. I don't live in Cavan either, I live in Sligo - understand. My eldest is 5, too young to cycle roads but thats no concern of yours.

Oh dear god, grow up for fcuk sake.

When ignorant ass like you is disagreeing with me its a sure sign I'm right.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm mocking you for your childish behaviour.

[deiseach]

Listen seafoid. I discuss my kids, you don't is that clear. I don't live in Cavan either, I live in Sligo - understand. My eldest is 5, too young to cycle roads but thats no concern of yours.

Let me get this straight. No one else is allowed mention your kids. Ever. Have I got that right?

[LeoMc]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

Maybe he discusses his kids, you don't......

Myles, you are getting on like an awful t**t.

Class.

[J OGorman]

it is a very emotional subject. Myles has a couple of kids, and is coming from a place where only a father can grasp how incredible the bond is between father and child. He was asking if those debating this subject with him have any children of their own...its a valid question. I'd hazard a guess most don't. For me, my whole outlook in life changed the moment I left the labour ward for the first time.

But, lets all gang up on Myles...give him a good proper forum dust up.

[Minder]

it is a very emotional subject. Myles has a couple of kids, and is coming from a place where only a father can grasp how incredible the bond is between father and child. He was asking if those debating this subject with him have any children of their own...its a valid question. I'd hazard a guess most don't. For me, my whole outlook in life changed the moment I left the labour ward for the first time.

But, lets all gang up on Myles...give him a good proper forum dust up.

Yeah thats right, I don't think anyone is turning their nose up to those that don't have children that they can't make a valid point on he subject but you do have a totally different outlook when you have kids. I know when I would have heard about stories like April Jones before I had children I would have thought "bad bastard" and not given it a second thought but now the natural reaction is "what if it happened to her/him".