April Jones abduction

[mylestheslasher]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

[Tony Baloney]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

The rights of the perpetrators of crime have the same rights as your children.

I think these child predators should be sent to a local version of this gaff. That way they could talk about their feelings in comfort. Then they could be released back into the community...
http://www.damncoolpictures.com/2009/03/5-star-prison-in-austria.html?m=1

[deiseach]

The producers of CSI would be delighted if they were reading this thread. 100% certainty from forensic evidence? Lads, don't ever play poker.

For the record I said DNA not forensic evidence.

DNA evidence is forensic evidence. Where do you get the idea that DNA evidence is always 100% reliable?

[seafoid]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

myles

I have kids. When they are older I will talk to them about lynching and mob violence.

[deiseach]

The rights of the perpetrators of crime have the same rights as your children.

Of course they do. That's what happens when you have equality under the law.

[mylestheslasher]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

myles

I have kids. When they are older I will talk to them about lynching and mob violence.

That's nice. You should also explain why they can't walk the roads alone or cycle to school anymore like we all did as kids. Anyway, question wasn't directed to you.

[EC Unique]

The rights of the perpetrators of crime have the same rights as your children.

Of course they do. That's what happens when you have equality under the law.

And this is right?

[deiseach]

Of course they do. That's what happens when you have equality under the law.

And this is right?

Of course. We are all entitled to the same rights under the law. Anything else is apartheid. That doesn't mean a convicted paedophile gets the same punishment as their victim.

[LeoMc]

My basis for defending travellers was that just because some commit crime doesnt mean they all do. Yes sections of the community that have high crime rates should have intervention of some sort and should even be cost effective to do so. However, the criminal is 100% responsible for their crime and whining about their upbringing means nothing in my book. But in my opinion a line must be drawn when it comes to child killers. I do not want my tax being spent locking these scum up in high security wings where even the other prisoners recognise them as a different level of prisoner. It doesn't give me a bulge in my trousers as you put it to say justice would only be done by exterminating such scum. They are not worth the effort and such funding would be better spent counselling the victims family who are forgotten as they start their life sentence. Am I right in saying that by your statistics 25% of sex crime perpetrator reoffend despite the punishment and rehabilitation and of course being on a sex offenders register and cops having knowledge of their whereabouts. 1 in 4 reoffend (or are caught reoffending) isn't impressive to me. My system gives zero reoffending for minimal cost to the taxpayer for child rapists and murderers.

What about Jon Venables and Robert Thompson. Would you be OK with executing 12 year olds?

Considering that Venables was out and about with a new ID and was caught with chid porn maybe it would have been a good idea.

Fair enough Venables is not a great example.
It had always sickened me to see the people attacking the van those 2 boys were led away from court in, grown men prepared to kill the 2 children inside becasue the blood lust was up in the mob. It is why the head has to rule the heart and we have to be dispassionate about crime and punishment.

[Milltown Row2]

We shouldn't really be having a pop at each other on this, many have a view on this, I'd like to see the reaction of a poster who's for reforming peado's after he's visited their door. That will change their view forever.

As for this not executing them because of mistakes in the past, well if someone cuts off my balls and I was innocent he might as well have killed me.

As for the stats on re-offending, was it 75% re-offend and the others just aren't caught maybe who knows. I never wanted them killed (though the more I watch the news the more I do) I want them put away to some island 200 miles away form the nearset mainland and let them fend for themselves. What's wrong with that? Remember this, these things are continually thinking of raping killing kids, actively downloading kid porn and want to brutalize your children.

When you think about it, really think about it then I don't see why we are some many pages in on this. Who opened this thread? Put up a poll just to see

[Dougal Maguire]

All this is crazy anyway, it doesn't matter if one person says they should be hanged or another says they should be exiled to some paedo island or another says they should be castrated, the fact is that they go to jail for life and, given the experiences of other cnuts like Ian Huntley etc, jail is not the bed of roses some of us thought it was. Bottom line is, though, we live in a civilised society and don't operate under the laws of the jungle.

[Hardy]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

What is your point? That the laws of the land should be framed based on the emotions of parents? How would you implement this novel proposal?

[mylestheslasher]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

What is your point? That the laws of the land should be framed based on the emotions of parents? How would you implement this novel proposal?

The point is where is he coming from with the notion of trying to reform these scumbags. The laws of the land should be based on protecting its law abiding citizens not trying to reform evil people most likely beyond reform at a cost of millions to the tax payer.

[Dougal Maguire]

Have I wandered onto the Daily Express site by accident?

[seafoid]

Fionntamhnach - why won't you tell us if you have kids? I have two, 5 yrs old and 2 yrs old. When you have kids you look at the world differently. I suspect you have none.

myles

I have kids. When they are older I will talk to them about lynching and mob violence.

That's nice. You should also explain why they can't walk the roads alone or cycle to school anymore like we all did as kids. Anyway, question wasn't directed to you.

How many kids are abducted in ireland every year?