The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, February 05, 2009, 03:47:16 PM

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J70

Next season is definitely make or break for Nunez. He has so many excellent parts to his game, but he's mid-20s now and far too often he either makes the wrong choice (pass or shoot?) or he tries to put his foot through the ball instead of slipping or poking it beyond the reach of the keeper. If you could graft Fowler's finishing onto the rest of his talents, he'd be some player!

League is gone, but I really hope that with the pressure (relatively) off, the players (and fans) quickly get over the disappointment, pull together, and make the last few games a good send-off for Klopp.

People will start to get excited (or not  :P ) about the next man, but first they need to show Klopp the love!

Milltown Row2

How many fist pumps will he finish off with at the Kop?

I hope he brings the team down and stand in a line at the Kop end to finish off, that for me was the turning point in his early career at Liverpool
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

RedHand88

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2024, 01:06:54 PMHow many fist pumps will he finish off with at the Kop?

I hope he brings the team down and stand in a line at the Kop end to finish off, that for me was the turning point in his early career at Liverpool

One for every time we finished 2nd in a League/Cup. Could be there a while.

Turf

Maybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

J70

Yeah, expectations will be tempered for next season all right. Top 4 would be an excellent achievement for Slot or whoever the new man ends up being.

And Klopp, there will be a fist-bump statue at some point!  ;D

Captain Obvious

Quote from: J70 on April 25, 2024, 01:30:39 PMYeah, expectations will be tempered for next season all right. Top 4 would be an excellent achievement for Slot or whoever the new man ends up being.

And Klopp, there will be a fist-bump statue at some point!  ;D

And a statue that is sure to have a trademark Klopp smile/smirk

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NAG1

Quote from: Turf on April 25, 2024, 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

tiempo

Inherited a mess, won the big titles and competed against a nation state. No mean feat.

Turf

Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Turf on April 25, 2024, 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

They hadn't won any league titles in the 30 years previous, 1 in 9 isn't bad considering!
I'm actually genuinely intrigued about how someone couldn't see him as anything other than a success at the club but sure each to their own I'm not here to change anyone's opinion on him.
Liverpool fans will hold him in the highest of esteems and probably won't care what any other fans think.

NAG1

Quote from: Turf on April 25, 2024, 02:58:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Turf on April 25, 2024, 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

They hadn't won any league titles in the 30 years previous, 1 in 9 isn't bad considering!
I'm actually genuinely intrigued about how someone couldn't see him as anything other than a success at the club but sure each to their own I'm not here to change anyone's opinion on him.
Liverpool fans will hold him in the highest of esteems and probably won't care what any other fans think.

I was just curious, I know he is a bit of a cult figure. Just wondered if looking back it will be with a bit of regret that it was only one title.

That being said United would take a single title at the moment any season.

Look-Up!

Quote from: johnnycool on April 25, 2024, 12:04:41 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on April 25, 2024, 11:42:27 AMVVD plays in a vital position. Still has plenty to give and a natural leader. I think it would be too risky to get rid, unless his heart not in it and he wants away himself. Earns 150k less than Salah, who I think is a big problem going forward not only because of his poor form, but he's putting massive upward pressure on future wage negotiations, be that existing contract renewals or new signings. 

Bank the Saudi cash for Salah and go for Ivan Toney, seriously rate that lad, he'll get 20 plus a year on a good team.

Salah is bang out of form, there's no doubting that, but Liverpools main assists used to come from wide, TTA and Robertson, TAA injured quite a lot this year and so has Robertson, who's been below par as well.

Carragher has given up on Nunez, seems to think he'll not get any better than what he is now and although his rates of scoring from really good chances is poor, surely that's something that still can be worked on, no?

Gakpo looked a bit better the last few games, probably missed last night, but not complaining..

Great shout on Toney. I don't think you can blame assists because an assist is only an assist if the chance is converted. Creating chances is not a problem for Liverpool.

I'd agree with Carragher. He's had 2 years, he's a 7-10 goals a season striker at best. He's even doing well to maintain that rate in a team where he's getting an embarrassment of chances. People saying he'll come good, or if he could just develop the finishing of Fowler he'd be class etc. You could equally say if Jozy Altidore was hypnotized to believe he was Lionel Messi, the result would be Darwin Nunez.

Turf

I've always thought Nunez was better coming off the bench, someone to cause a bit of chaos. Saying that he didn't have much impact against Palace last week but even still I think he is someone who is better coming into a game rather than a starter.
Liverpool been very unlucky with Jota missing so many games, probably the closest they have to a natural finisher.
I think they should give a few of the youngsters a game now that the title is gone and top 4 is safe, would like to see more of Danns especially.

trueblue1234

Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Turf on April 25, 2024, 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

You have to look at what he was up against. He has been up against the monster that is city. Up against a club that financially outstripped its competitors in the PL by so much for the duration of his stint. And he still managed to get a title and run them close in another few. Not to mention the champions league.
Given where Liverpool came from, it was an unreal feat. Look at the status of the club now compared to before he came. There is no comparison. IMO at least.
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Armamike

Klopp has left Liverpool in a very strong position compared to where he started.  So that's the ultimate assessment of his contribution.  Changed the culture around the club where the expectation now is the pursuit of excellence on and off the pitch.  There will be regrets over not winning another PL title or another champions league but we know the context around Man City and the PL.  Judge him as well on the finances made available to him compared to other clubs.  Will really miss his infectious personality and sheer presence as will just about all Liverpool fans. He's a one off.

That's just, like your opinion man.

Milltown Row2

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Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 25, 2024, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Turf on April 25, 2024, 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

You have to look at what he was up against. He has been up against the monster that is city. Up against a club that financially outstripped its competitors in the PL by so much for the duration of his stint. And he still managed to get a title and run them close in another few. Not to mention the champions league.
Given where Liverpool came from, it was an unreal feat. Look at the status of the club now compared to before he came. There is no comparison. IMO at least.

Been told a lot that Utd have spent more money than City? So which club uses its money wisely would be best to judge?

City have the best manager and Liverpool equally as good a team with less money spent than Utd, but their manager used it wisely and bought players which suited his system of play.

Whereas Utd and Chelsea have spent bucket fulls of money or poor players and a string of managers
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea