Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Truthsayer

Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 28, 2025, 01:09:42 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 28, 2025, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 28, 2025, 09:44:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2025, 05:35:17 PMGood to have a two sided healthy debate than fawning over the new rules and don't you dare criticise them attitude a lot of journalists,pundits appear to have.
Correct. To date it's been such a one-sided discussion of the new rules. I've said it a hundred times this year, we'll have as many poor, good and excellent games under the new rules as under the old. I haven't seen anything to change my mind yet. I 100% agree that high scoring doesn't equate to high entertainment, which seems to be the unarguable default position.
One sided is that the vast majority are in favour of the new rules. At Tyrone County Cmmttee meeting recently... delegates from every club. Not a complaint when it was discussed.
GPA that is never behind the door in voicing it's opinion.. nada-zilch.
All the county managers... nahan.
The game has been saved.
Never heard of your man above. There's no appetite for a return to 'chess' as he describes it.

Enough of the hyperbole.
The truth will set you free...

Blowitupref

Quote from: Rossfan on September 28, 2025, 10:15:42 AMWe had enough of chess.

The adjustment of the hooter system gave us a form of chess at the end of halves during some matches in the All-Ireland series including the final.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose


SaffronSports

Quote from: Blowitupref on September 28, 2025, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 28, 2025, 10:15:42 AMWe had enough of chess.

The adjustment of the hooter system gave us a form of chess at the end of halves during some matches in the All-Ireland series including the final.

Could the hooter be changed to be like the ladies game where the hooter just ends the half? At times its great drama when a team wins possession and are within a score but what happened at the end of the first half in the final isnt great for anyone. I also dont like the hooter only being used in tv games. All games should have the same rules.

Armagh18

Quote from: SaffronSports on September 29, 2025, 06:52:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 28, 2025, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 28, 2025, 10:15:42 AMWe had enough of chess.

The adjustment of the hooter system gave us a form of chess at the end of halves during some matches in the All-Ireland series including the final.

Could the hooter be changed to be like the ladies game where the hooter just ends the half? At times its great drama when a team wins possession and are within a score but what happened at the end of the first half in the final isnt great for anyone. I also dont like the hooter only being used in tv games. All games should have the same rules.
Was that what was tried at the start of the year?

In the ladies game, if theres a free etc awarded and the hooter goes are they still allowed to take it?

Rossfan

Aren't changes to the hooter rule going to Special Congress?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Macraz

Recent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Macraz on September 30, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRecent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

Jesus.. I wouldn't like to be trying to answer that and I'm a ref!

Ref prematurely blew whistle!

He genuinely made a mistake, replayed the free.. If a free for instance hits a physio on the pitch its replayed, same as hitting the ref, so there is a rule for that. Hitting the upright  and before the ball was played on the ground he blew, so there was no aftermath of the resulting ball being played, so there is no idea how that would have played out.

Having a throw in at the 21 isn't the fix either or in the rules I don't think. So by admitting the mistake, free replayed you have to look at it like this, if it was your team on the end of that, which way would you like it?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

twohands!!!

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2025, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Macraz on September 30, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRecent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

Jesus.. I wouldn't like to be trying to answer that and I'm a ref!

Ref prematurely blew whistle!

He genuinely made a mistake, replayed the free.. If a free for instance hits a physio on the pitch its replayed, same as hitting the ref, so there is a rule for that. Hitting the upright  and before the ball was played on the ground he blew, so there was no aftermath of the resulting ball being played, so there is no idea how that would have played out.

Having a throw in at the 21 isn't the fix either or in the rules I don't think. So by admitting the mistake, free replayed you have to look at it like this, if it was your team on the end of that, which way would you like it?

No specific rule that I can think of.

Yuu'd definitely think a throw ball on the 21 would have been the fairer decision overall as opposed to getting a 2nd chance to take the free.

It would have come closer to replicating the state of the game (ball coming back off the post) than having a 2nd chance at the free.

trileacman

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2025, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Macraz on September 30, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRecent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

Jesus.. I wouldn't like to be trying to answer that and I'm a ref!

Ref prematurely blew whistle!

He genuinely made a mistake, replayed the free.. If a free for instance hits a physio on the pitch its replayed, same as hitting the ref, so there is a rule for that. Hitting the upright  and before the ball was played on the ground he blew, so there was no aftermath of the resulting ball being played, so there is no idea how that would have played out.

Having a throw in at the 21 isn't the fix either or in the rules I don't think. So by admitting the mistake, free replayed you have to look at it like this, if it was your team on the end of that, which way would you like it?

What's the rule for hitting the ref? Say last seconds a ball is played in and hits the ref 30m out from goal is that a free kick or a hop ball?
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Armagh18

Quote from: trileacman on September 30, 2025, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2025, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Macraz on September 30, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRecent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

Jesus.. I wouldn't like to be trying to answer that and I'm a ref!

Ref prematurely blew whistle!

He genuinely made a mistake, replayed the free.. If a free for instance hits a physio on the pitch its replayed, same as hitting the ref, so there is a rule for that. Hitting the upright  and before the ball was played on the ground he blew, so there was no aftermath of the resulting ball being played, so there is no idea how that would have played out.

Having a throw in at the 21 isn't the fix either or in the rules I don't think. So by admitting the mistake, free replayed you have to look at it like this, if it was your team on the end of that, which way would you like it?

What's the rule for hitting the ref? Say last seconds a ball is played in and hits the ref 30m out from goal is that a free kick or a hop ball?
Is it an indirect free to the team who had the ball?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trileacman on September 30, 2025, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2025, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Macraz on September 30, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRecent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

Jesus.. I wouldn't like to be trying to answer that and I'm a ref!

Ref prematurely blew whistle!

He genuinely made a mistake, replayed the free.. If a free for instance hits a physio on the pitch its replayed, same as hitting the ref, so there is a rule for that. Hitting the upright  and before the ball was played on the ground he blew, so there was no aftermath of the resulting ball being played, so there is no idea how that would have played out.

Having a throw in at the 21 isn't the fix either or in the rules I don't think. So by admitting the mistake, free replayed you have to look at it like this, if it was your team on the end of that, which way would you like it?

What's the rule for hitting the ref? Say last seconds a ball is played in and hits the ref 30m out from goal is that a free kick or a hop ball?

Retakes from position of free
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Blowitupref

Quote from: SaffronSports on September 29, 2025, 06:52:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 28, 2025, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 28, 2025, 10:15:42 AMWe had enough of chess.

The adjustment of the hooter system gave us a form of chess at the end of halves during some matches in the All-Ireland series including the final.

Could the hooter be changed to be like the ladies game where the hooter just ends the half? At times its great drama when a team wins possession and are within a score but what happened at the end of the first half in the final isnt great for anyone. I also dont like the hooter only being used in tv games. All games should have the same rules.

Hooter system was that way during the league and was probably better than what we got with the tweak but the FRC jumped the gun after what happened in the last play of Westmeath v Meath game.

Yes all games should especially when fine lines can decide promotion and relegation.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

theticklemister

Quote from: Macraz on September 30, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRecent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

I'm a referee and I've done something similar. Fella goes up to catch the ball from kickout and I think he's got it and blow for the mark. He then drops it out of his hands and everyone stops why the whistle is blow !

I've learnt to hold blowing the whistle a little longer.

trileacman

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2025, 03:33:02 PM
Quote from: trileacman on September 30, 2025, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2025, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Macraz on September 30, 2025, 09:50:54 AMRecent hurling match - time was almost up and free was awarded to team 1 point down.
Free was taken and hit post but ref blew whistle in error thinking ball had gone dead.
Referee gave a retake due to his error and team equalised to bring game to extra time and subsequently won.
Supporters and mentors on team who subsequently lost were calling for the ball to be thrown in on the 21.
Is there a specific rule in the GAA rule book on this or what was the correct course of action?

Jesus.. I wouldn't like to be trying to answer that and I'm a ref!

Ref prematurely blew whistle!

He genuinely made a mistake, replayed the free.. If a free for instance hits a physio on the pitch its replayed, same as hitting the ref, so there is a rule for that. Hitting the upright  and before the ball was played on the ground he blew, so there was no aftermath of the resulting ball being played, so there is no idea how that would have played out.

Having a throw in at the 21 isn't the fix either or in the rules I don't think. So by admitting the mistake, free replayed you have to look at it like this, if it was your team on the end of that, which way would you like it?

What's the rule for hitting the ref? Say last seconds a ball is played in and hits the ref 30m out from goal is that a free kick or a hop ball?

Retakes from position of free

Say it happened in open play and just outside the arc, would you allow the team to shoot for a 2-pointer from the free? What's the rule book say should happen?
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