Conor McGregor

Started by lurganblue, January 29, 2025, 02:24:40 PM

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Dag Dog

It will take a lot more of this to turn the yanks against him. Kobe Bryant and Mike Tyson were still heroes after their...ahem, misdemeanours.

Wildweasel74

Trying to pay of u woman's neighbours to testify then pull out then he realised he could do jail for it, suns up the type yobbo u dealing with, on top of his, sending dodgy pics. On top of a constant drink and drug bender. Not a wonder Trumps a No 1 fan.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 31, 2025, 05:01:54 PMThere definitely seems to be a case of coming at him hard for that. He brought the appeal and then withdrew the evidence. I honestly wonder if he did any time would he be a hero in jails or would lads go for him?
Would be treated like a lord and it would be a conspiracy.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2025, 05:34:12 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 31, 2025, 05:01:54 PMThere definitely seems to be a case of coming at him hard for that. He brought the appeal and then withdrew the evidence. I honestly wonder if he did any time would he be a hero in jails or would lads go for him?
Would be treated like a lord and it would be a conspiracy.
He is Kinehan adjacent. Plenty of lads in the Joy would be happy to get stuck into him

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 31, 2025, 05:17:25 PMTrying to pay of u woman's neighbours to testify then pull out then he realised he could do jail for it, suns up the type yobbo u dealing with, on top of his, sending dodgy pics. On top of a constant drink and drug bender. Not a wonder Trumps a No 1 fan.
I assume CMG himself wasn't involved in this directly. Could be a tough one to prove he was the instigator

gerrykeegan

I read today the neighbor stated in her affidavit she saw this new evidence from her bedroom window. Her bedroom window looks over her own back yard and she lives opposite Nikata! Can you imagine how pissed off they are about that mistake.
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David McKeown

Pretty scathing judgement in truth from the Court. Very surprised how damning it was
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Captain Scarlet

I think the idea that the courts were being weaponised with lies against a victim has them enraged.
Would the barrister/ solicitor be in trouble or are they acting in good faith based on new testimony from members of the public. I would have thought they would need to interogate the pair of them and it wouldn't be so late in the day that we learn that their bedroom window wasn't even facing Nikita Hand's house!

I doubt McGregor was directly involved (as in big bag of cash) but him and all those in his sphere are so used to doing what they want that they presume they will get away with it.

Like have the lads who stabbed the partner been caught or where is that investigation?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1122/1482471-nikita-hand-house-court/

them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Dag Dog

I bet McGregor used a middle man to offer this couple cash to make up the story.
They could (rightly) get jail, but McGregor will be sitting at home, happy out, snorting coke.

Armagh18

Quote from: Dag Dog on August 01, 2025, 11:30:33 AMI bet McGregor used a middle man to offer this couple cash to make up the story.
They could (rightly) get jail, but McGregor will be sitting at home, happy out, snorting coke.
What if they turn on him and say McGregor put me up to it? Doubt it would be hard to convince a jury that he did?

Dag Dog

Quote from: Armagh18 on August 01, 2025, 11:50:00 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on August 01, 2025, 11:30:33 AMI bet McGregor used a middle man to offer this couple cash to make up the story.
They could (rightly) get jail, but McGregor will be sitting at home, happy out, snorting coke.
What if they turn on him and say McGregor put me up to it? Doubt it would be hard to convince a jury that he did?
McGregor would have their house burned out fairly sharply.

gallsman

Nikita Hand suing McGregor and the two "witnesses". Serious balls on her.

David McKeown

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on August 01, 2025, 11:26:58 AMI think the idea that the courts were being weaponised with lies against a victim has them enraged.
Would the barrister/ solicitor be in trouble or are they acting in good faith based on new testimony from members of the public. I would have thought they would need to interogate the pair of them and it wouldn't be so late in the day that we learn that their bedroom window wasn't even facing Nikita Hand's house!

I doubt McGregor was directly involved (as in big bag of cash) but him and all those in his sphere are so used to doing what they want that they presume they will get away with it.

Like have the lads who stabbed the partner been caught or where is that investigation?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1122/1482471-nikita-hand-house-court/



It's not unusual to not speak to all witness until close to a trial date or even on the morning of trial. Equally it's not unusual for a witness/defendant to present differently in advance of a hearing versus on the day. Only at that stage can you really assess the value of a witness. 

However evidence has to be gathered in advance and you can't ambush the other side.

So what happens is the affidavit will have been taken and sworn then lodged the person making the affidavit will have been warned about the truth of same. Some or all of the lawyers involved would likely have then spoken to them in advance of the hearing. Then again on the morning. Then at that stage further advice will be provided about the value in leading certain evidence. There's any number of reasons why after doing that parts of an appeal may be abandoned and not all of them are we think these people are lying.

The views of the client may have changed, they may have taken legal advice on board better etc etc. Ultimately counsel can not mislead the Court as that's who their duty is to but at the same time they act on instruction.

So I know one of the Senior Counsel in the case quite well. There is no chance he would have taken part in anything untoward and neither would the others. So no counsel/solicitors are not at fault as far as I can see in this case but of course I could be wrong.

All that said I see McGregor has highly criticised his lawyers today.
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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on August 01, 2025, 11:26:58 AMI think the idea that the courts were being weaponised with lies against a victim has them enraged.
Would the barrister/ solicitor be in trouble or are they acting in good faith based on new testimony from members of the public. I would have thought they would need to interogate the pair of them and it wouldn't be so late in the day that we learn that their bedroom window wasn't even facing Nikita Hand's house!

I doubt McGregor was directly involved (as in big bag of cash) but him and all those in his sphere are so used to doing what they want that they presume they will get away with it.

Like have the lads who stabbed the partner been caught or where is that investigation?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1122/1482471-nikita-hand-house-court/


My read on this is it was his legal team who pulled the plug on this wheeze. Unfortunately someone leaked it to the press in advance so there is no putting it back in the bad idea bottle.

He has made a serious mistake. He has taken on the state and it's institutions

Main Street

Quote from: David McKeown on August 01, 2025, 06:35:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on August 01, 2025, 11:26:58 AMI think the idea that the courts were being weaponised with lies against a victim has them enraged.
Would the barrister/ solicitor be in trouble or are they acting in good faith based on new testimony from members of the public. I would have thought they would need to interogate the pair of them and it wouldn't be so late in the day that we learn that their bedroom window wasn't even facing Nikita Hand's house!

I doubt McGregor was directly involved (as in big bag of cash) but him and all those in his sphere are so used to doing what they want that they presume they will get away with it.

Like have the lads who stabbed the partner been caught or where is that investigation?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1122/1482471-nikita-hand-house-court/



It's not unusual to not speak to all witness until close to a trial date or even on the morning of trial. Equally it's not unusual for a witness/defendant to present differently in advance of a hearing versus on the day. Only at that stage can you really assess the value of a witness. 

However evidence has to be gathered in advance and you can't ambush the other side.

So what happens is the affidavit will have been taken and sworn then lodged the person making the affidavit will have been warned about the truth of same. Some or all of the lawyers involved would likely have then spoken to them in advance of the hearing. Then again on the morning. Then at that stage further advice will be provided about the value in leading certain evidence. There's any number of reasons why after doing that parts of an appeal may be abandoned and not all of them are we think these people are lying.

The views of the client may have changed, they may have taken legal advice on board better etc etc. Ultimately counsel can not mislead the Court as that's who their duty is to but at the same time they act on instruction.

So I know one of the Senior Counsel in the case quite well. There is no chance he would have taken part in anything untoward and neither would the others. So no counsel/solicitors are not at fault as far as I can see in this case but of course I could be wrong.

All that said I see McGregor has highly criticised his lawyers today.
Once the couple made their affidavit about the supposed ruckus in Nikita's home, is it so that regardless of them not turning up to testify, that affidavit can be subject to investigative scrutiny as to the truth of its contents -  as in false testimony? They can't just withdraw the affidavit before the court case begins?

Should Nikita not wait for the results of such an investigation before suing the couple? or in any event can her legal team just proceed and attempt to satisfy a civil court that the couple lied?