Retirements

[Rossfan]

Tommy Walsh ex Kerry  and St Kilda has retired from club football.

[blanketattack]

Tommy Walsh ex Kerry  and St Kilda has retired from club football.

Tremendous talent. Should have been given MOTM for the 2009 final - got 4 fantastic points from play in such a low scoring game.

[Wildweasel74]

Never the same after tearing that hamstring, took all his speed away!

[gallsman]

There was that and also the simple fact that his dominance at underage never fully translated, as is not uncommon. There has been many a physical beast of a player at underage who looks the second coming but is never quite as effective at senior when playing with fully grown men.

[blanketattack]

There was that and also the simple fact that his dominance at underage never fully translated, as is not uncommon. There has been many a physical beast of a player at underage who looks the second coming but is never quite as effective at senior when playing with fully grown men.

2009 showed that his underage dominance was materialising in senior. 0-4 in the All-Ireland Final, 1-2 in the 2008 and 2009 semifinals. Left for Sydney in October 09 at the age of 21.

[Wildweasel74]

Ah Tommy Walsh was huge, more than fit for any grown man. His speed went when he badly torn his hamstring in Australia.Basically finished him.

[gallsman]

There was that and also the simple fact that his dominance at underage never fully translated, as is not uncommon. There has been many a physical beast of a player at underage who looks the second coming but is never quite as effective at senior when playing with fully grown men.

2009 showed that his underage dominance was materialising in senior. 0-4 in the All-Ireland Final, 1-2 in the 2008 and 2009 semifinals. Left for Sydney in October 09 at the age of 21.

It did in its hole. One swallow doesn't make a summer. He had a long way to go before you could come close to saying he was anywhere near dominant.

Clifford on the other hand has been dominant essentially from the moment he stepped out of minor.

[imtommygunn]

He was poor when he came back from oz. He couldn't really kick the ball. If he'd continued the way he was before he left he'd have been great.

[DaleCooper]

Yup his feet weren't great as the 2021 Tyrone game found but a super baller all the same who caused a few headaches for full back lines when the Twin Tower strategy was in effect.

[blanketattack]

There was that and also the simple fact that his dominance at underage never fully translated, as is not uncommon. There has been many a physical beast of a player at underage who looks the second coming but is never quite as effective at senior when playing with fully grown men.

2009 showed that his underage dominance was materialising in senior. 0-4 in the All-Ireland Final, 1-2 in the 2008 and 2009 semifinals. Left for Sydney in October 09 at the age of 21.

It did in its hole. One swallow doesn't make a summer. He had a long way to go before you could come close to saying he was anywhere near dominant.

Clifford on the other hand has been dominant essentially from the moment he stepped out of minor.

Don't mean materialising into dominance at senior, mean materialising into a solid senior intercounty footballer.

[LC]

There was that and also the simple fact that his dominance at underage never fully translated, as is not uncommon. There has been many a physical beast of a player at underage who looks the second coming but is never quite as effective at senior when playing with fully grown men.

2009 showed that his underage dominance was materialising in senior. 0-4 in the All-Ireland Final, 1-2 in the 2008 and 2009 semifinals. Left for Sydney in October 09 at the age of 21.

It did in its hole. One swallow doesn't make a summer. He had a long way to go before you could come close to saying he was anywhere near dominant.

Clifford on the other hand has been dominant essentially from the moment he stepped out of minor.

It was inevitable, I remember watching him score 4-4 in the AI minor final, was like watching a U16 playing in a U12 match.

[03,05,08]

Walsh left when the long ball was still a viable option and came back whenever the blanket defence had became the only show in town.

[twohands!!!]

He was poor when he came back from oz. He couldn't really kick the ball. If he'd continued the way he was before he left he'd have been great.

Yeah it was really noticeable how crocked he was after Oz especially his kicking - his kicking motion on the rare occasions he did kick was so slow and cimbersome compared to what he showed in that All-Ireland was night and day. I don't think he'd have been anywhere near Clifford's level but there was definitely a decent forward there already when he left for Oz. Jusct checking the Terracetalk website he scored 1-11 in the 2008 Championship and 3-12 in the 2009 Championship which was fairly decent scoring. He scored a total of 0-2 in the championship after he came back.

[blanketattack]

He was poor when he came back from oz. He couldn't really kick the ball. If he'd continued the way he was before he left he'd have been great.

Yeah it was really noticeable how crocked he was after Oz especially his kicking - his kicking motion on the rare occasions he did kick was so slow and cimbersome compared to what he showed in that All-Ireland was night and day. I don't think he'd have been anywhere near Clifford's level but there was definitely a decent forward there already when he left for Oz. Jusct checking the Terracetalk website he scored 1-11 in the 2008 Championship and 3-12 in the 2009 Championship which was fairly decent scoring. He scored a total of 0-2 in the championship after he came back.

He tore his hamstring tendons completely off the bone, an injury that retired Paul O'Connell.

[Dun Eile]

There was that and also the simple fact that his dominance at underage never fully translated, as is not uncommon. There has been many a physical beast of a player at underage who looks the second coming but is never quite as effective at senior when playing with fully grown men.

His father Sean had him and the son doing weights at 14. Was a big unit.