Ulster U20 and Minor Championships 2025

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Harold Disgracey

Tyrone deserved winners in the end but the referee was the deciding factor in their victory.

Harold Disgracey

Quote from: p3427977 on April 16, 2025, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 16, 2025, 08:39:16 PMAaron O'Neill - Quite possibly the most idiotic thing I've seen a player do there, some achievement.

Armagh have hit the self destruct button.
Is he related to Rian?

Brother

Mikhailov

Woeful refereeing and I am a Tyrone fan. If this is the prelude to what is going to happen at club level then football will end up chaotic.

The referee didn't have a clue what he was doing when the game got tight and cost Armagh dearly, although I do think Tyrone would have got over the line but not as clear cut as it ended up

tyrone08

Quote from: mackers on April 16, 2025, 08:52:24 PMWorst 20 minutes of refereeing I've seen in a long time.

What call was wrong? Armagh player didnt give ball back and gave away a 50m free which resulted in the goal. Correct call.

Armagh management shouting at the decision. Free given as per rules. Correct call.

Aramgh lad pulled down tyrone player. Black card given. Correct call.

All calls were correct and came directly from poor discipline.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: tyrone08 on April 16, 2025, 08:59:07 PM
Quote from: mackers on April 16, 2025, 08:52:24 PMWorst 20 minutes of refereeing I've seen in a long time.

What call was wrong? Armagh player didnt give ball back and gave away a 50m free which resulted in the goal. Correct call.

Armagh management shouting at the decision. Free given as per rules. Correct call.

Aramgh lad pulled down tyrone player. Black card given. Correct call.

All calls were correct and came directly from poor discipline.
Would like someone to answer this. They might have been harsh but these are the rules that were voted in. The ref is following the rules. It's not the ref people should have an issue with, it's the FRC

Truthsayer

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Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 16, 2025, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 16, 2025, 08:59:07 PM
Quote from: mackers on April 16, 2025, 08:52:24 PMWorst 20 minutes of refereeing I've seen in a long time.

What call was wrong? Armagh player didnt give ball back and gave away a 50m free which resulted in the goal. Correct call.

Armagh management shouting at the decision. Free given as per rules. Correct call.

Aramgh lad pulled down tyrone player. Black card given. Correct call.

All calls were correct and came directly from poor discipline.
Would like someone to answer this. They might have been harsh but these are the rules that were voted in. The ref is following the rules. It's not the ref people should have an issue with, it's the FRC
Or the players for committing the fouls 🤷

Harold Disgracey

Yes, they are the rules but that doesn't mean that the referee was correct in his initial decision to bring the ball forward.

Captain Obvious

Competitive display by Armagh until they ran out of juice for the final 10 minutes. Winner of Ulster will likely win the All Ireland at this grade again so good to for young lads to be competitive. Less said about the ref the better..

omagh_gael

Quote from: Harold Disgracey on April 16, 2025, 09:16:28 PMYes, they are the rules but that doesn't mean that the referee was correct in his initial decision to bring the ball forward.

What do you mean? The Armagh lad clearly held on to the ball too long. Ref was 100% right to pull it forward 50m. Tyrone took it quick and punished Armagh defence switching off.

Armagh bench then clearly gave bad manners and free given in response. These are the rules.

Missed the black card decision so can't comment on that.

DuffleKing

Convenient for the Tyrone men tonight to sit behind a warped interpretation of the rules but if you have any perspective you will see what's coming down the line for all of us.

A good ref is going to struggle with these rules on his own. A bad one - like tonight - will ruin games and dictate the outcome.

Personally I prefer football to decide the outcome of games.

The Trap

Ach lads, don't be so competitive. Just enjoy all the lovely football and scores and don't worry about the result. Get a wee ice cream on the way home.
Yours
Jim and Jarlath

bennydorano

That's it basically, Armagh are going to have to suck it up tonight, everyone will get a taste of being at the whim of an inept ref before too long.

mackers

The Tyrone player clearly blocked Aaron O'Neill's run. O'Neill's reaction warranted the card he got but Tyrone lad should have received a black card along with him. These rules are very dangerous in the wrong referee's hands. If Tyrone are put out of the championship on the back of such decisions ye won't be citing correct calls. There will be war.
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

tyrone08

Quote from: Harold Disgracey on April 16, 2025, 09:16:28 PMYes, they are the rules but that doesn't mean that the referee was correct in his initial decision to bring the ball forward.

He was correct. If the armagh player handed the ball back the goal and subsequent point wouldnt have happened. No one was impeding him handing it back

tyrone08

Quote from: DuffleKing on April 16, 2025, 09:24:07 PMConvenient for the Tyrone men tonight to sit behind a warped interpretation of the rules but if you have any perspective you will see what's coming down the line for all of us.

A good ref is going to struggle with these rules on his own. A bad one - like tonight - will ruin games and dictate the outcome.

Personally I prefer football to decide the outcome of games.

Tyrone sufferermd a 50m free in cavan game for Mckernan being shoved before he could give the ball to cavan. He couldnt give it back as 2 players were shoving him.

In this instance the armagh lad simply wouldnt give the ball back. Big difference.