Ulster U20 and Minor Championships 2025

[tyrone08]

Personally I dont like having to hand the ball back or the 2 point rule.

It should be changed that you are not allowed to impede the free e.g kicking the ball away or blocking the player but you shouldn't have to hand it back.

[Throw ball]

Worst 20 minutes of refereeing I've seen in a long time.

What call was wrong? Armagh player didnt give ball back and gave away a 50m free which resulted in the goal. Correct call.

Armagh management shouting at the decision. Free given as per rules. Correct call.

Aramgh lad pulled down tyrone player. Black card given. Correct call.

All calls were correct and came directly from poor discipline.

The Armagh lad held ball out to the Tyrone lad who didn't take it. Are we suggesting the rules state that you have to wait until it suits the opposition player to take the ball. If he had have pushed the ball into the players stomach he would have been carded.

Yes. If the referee punches a player he can still move it forward 50m if a manager complains.

Aaron O'Neill pulled the lad who had run into his chest off the ball.( I watched it back ) A different referee would have carded the Tyrone lad.

As others have said Tyrone got the rub of the green today but club matches could become a nightmare.

For what it is worth Armagh did better than I thought and I think Tyrone would still have won if the game had have stayed close and even to the end.

[Wildweasel74]

That O'Neil black card, I did actually thought the ref had blew for a Armagh free for the tangle with the Tyrone player. I didn't watch it bck but was suprised free went the other way at the time.

[reddgnhand]

Was at the game tonight and half the time the crowd hadn't a clue what was going on. They are removing all emotion from the game. Armagh lost that game tonight because one of their players didn't hand the ball back.Its just ridiculous.

[Wildweasel74]

I think Armagh had lead the whole game, up to the free for dissent from Barry O'Hagan. Was that short of the 50th min mark, possible 48mins. So i can see how Armagh are sick. Big issue with a man down, is the stupid recent rule change means u can't bring a forward bck to match up against the same no.of attackers from the other team.

[Truthsayer]

Was at the game tonight and half the time the crowd hadn't a clue what was going on. They are removing all emotion from the game. Armagh lost that game tonight because one of their players didn't hand the ball back.Its just ridiculous.

He'll hand it back the next time 

[snoopdog]

Was at the game tonight and half the time the crowd hadn't a clue what was going on. They are removing all emotion from the game. Armagh lost that game tonight because one of their players didn't hand the ball back.Its just ridiculous.

But there was 10 points in it.

[bennydorano]

10 pts

The 1.1 the ref was directly responsible for changed the course of that game 100%.

Now the final score will totally misrepresent the flow of the game, Tyrone will learn nothing and Derry will annihilate them.

[Rossfan]

This thread has turned into pure comedy gold.

[tyrone08]

Worst 20 minutes of refereeing I've seen in a long time.

What call was wrong? Armagh player didnt give ball back and gave away a 50m free which resulted in the goal. Correct call.

Armagh management shouting at the decision. Free given as per rules. Correct call.

Aramgh lad pulled down tyrone player. Black card given. Correct call.

All calls were correct and came directly from poor discipline.

The Armagh lad held ball out to the Tyrone lad who didn't take it. Are we suggesting the rules state that you have to wait until it suits the opposition player to take the ball. If he had have pushed the ball into the players stomach he would have been carded.  Actually if you watch it again he is walking backwards with the outstretched as if to say come and get it. 50m frees have been give for far less this year already.

Yes. If the referee punches a player he can still move it forward 50m if a manager complains.

Aaron O'Neill pulled the lad who had run into his chest off the ball.( I watched it back ) A different referee would have carded the Tyrone lad.

As others have said Tyrone got the rub of the green today but club matches could become a nightmare.

For what it is worth Armagh did better than I thought and I think Tyrone would still have won if the game had have stayed close and even to the end.

The Armagh lad held ball out to the Tyrone lad who didn't take it. Are we suggesting the rules state that you have to wait until it suits the opposition player to take the ball. If he had have pushed the ball into the players stomach he would have been carded.  Actually if you watch it again he is walking backwards with the outstretched holding the ball as if to say come and get it. 50m frees have been give for far less this year already.

Yes. If the referee punches a player he can still move it forward 50m if a manager complains. Bit extreme, every team was briefed at the start of the year that shouting from the sidelines can result in a free against your team.[/b]

If you think last night was bad wait until you are we are in the final stages of the championship, there will be teams put out of it for a lot less. Madness really.

[thebigfullforward]

Convenient for the Tyrone men tonight to sit behind a warped interpretation of the rules but if you have any perspective you will see what's coming down the line for all of us.

A good ref is going to struggle with these rules on his own. A bad one - like tonight - will ruin games and dictate the outcome.

Personally I prefer football to decide the outcome of games.

I 100 percent agree with you. I don't like that this is part of the game now either. We benefited from it last night but it's still bs in my opinion. Unfortunately these are the rules that were voted in (almost unanimously if I recall)

[flowerpot]

The FRA will take no responsibility, Éamonn Fitzmaurice would sicken your hole defending it as would all the Sunday Game "analysts" at least Whelan keeps calling out the 2 point shite for an infringement. In fairness it was really road tested in Sandbox games isn't that the line.

[APM]

Convenient for the Tyrone men tonight to sit behind a warped interpretation of the rules but if you have any perspective you will see what's coming down the line for all of us.

A good ref is going to struggle with these rules on his own. A bad one - like tonight - will ruin games and dictate the outcome.

Personally I prefer football to decide the outcome of games.

I 100 percent agree with you. I don't like that this is part of the game now either. We benefited from it last night but it's still bs in my opinion. Unfortunately these are the rules that were voted in (almost unanimously if I recall)

Would agree also, but has discipline not been an issue under O'Hagan? 

The O'Neill black was a disaster and extremely harsh. Playing with a man down is very difficult under these rules and in a tight game will mean you lose.

HQ may be hoping that it leads to improved discipline. But the GAA needs to take serious look at that game and try to learn from it

[Armamike]

Was at the game tonight and half the time the crowd hadn't a clue what was going on. They are removing all emotion from the game. Armagh lost that game tonight because one of their players didn't hand the ball back.Its just ridiculous.

He'll hand it back the next time 

He did hand the ball back though.  The law's an ass.

[thebigfullforward]

Was at the game tonight and half the time the crowd hadn't a clue what was going on. They are removing all emotion from the game. Armagh lost that game tonight because one of their players didn't hand the ball back.Its just ridiculous.

He'll hand it back the next time 

He did hand the ball back though.  The law's an ass.

Don't hand the ball back within 5 seconds it's brought forward, throw the ball back instead of handing it back it's brought forward, get thrown around the place by 2 players and physically unable to give the ball back it's brought forward 50m, don't hand it back to the nearest opposition player it's brought forward. Some craic the whole thing