Seen the All Ireland Junior Football Championship was on on Sat in Portlaoise. What are the conditions for playing for a junior team? I dont think any Ulster counties have a team do they?
The All Ireland Junior Semi Finals are on Saturday next.
Cork v Louth in Portlaoise and of course
Ros Comáin v Lonndain in the Hyde.
I suspect we will make it 2 Finals in a row?
Fermanagh entered Connacht this year i think
Fermanagh were defeated in Connacht by Leitrim.
I've never understood the County JFC. Can someone expain how a player becomes eligible/ineligible to compete?
Quote from: thewobbler on August 07, 2009, 11:27:35 AM
I've never understood the County JFC. Can someone expain how a player becomes eligible/ineligible to compete?
I think the way it works is that your club has to be a junior club and you have not represented your county at a higher level. For instance in Cork here there is very strong representation on the county secne from Junior and Intermediate clubs. the likes of Canty, Noel O'Leary, Cussen, Alan Oconnor and Donnacha O'Connor play for junior or intermediate clubs. If they had not made the cut for the senior squad this year they could have played for the relevant county level that their club plays at.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 07, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 07, 2009, 11:27:35 AM
I've never understood the County JFC. Can someone expain how a player becomes eligible/ineligible to compete?
I think the way it works is that your club has to be a junior club and you have not represented your county at a higher level. For instance in Cork here there is very strong representation on the county secne from Junior and Intermediate clubs. the likes of Canty, Noel O'Leary, Cussen, Alan Oconnor and Donnacha O'Connor play for junior or intermediate clubs. If they had not made the cut for the senior squad this year they could have played for the relevant county level that their club plays at.
What do you mean bc?
If you have represented the county at Senior level does that not exclude you from playing junior level again or is it just for that year?
Quote from: full back on August 07, 2009, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 07, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 07, 2009, 11:27:35 AM
I've never understood the County JFC. Can someone expain how a player becomes eligible/ineligible to compete?
I think the way it works is that your club has to be a junior club and you have not represented your county at a higher level. For instance in Cork here there is very strong representation on the county secne from Junior and Intermediate clubs. the likes of Canty, Noel O'Leary, Cussen, Alan Oconnor and Donnacha O'Connor play for junior or intermediate clubs. If they had not made the cut for the senior squad this year they could have played for the relevant county level that their club plays at.
What do you mean bc?
If you have represented the county at Senior level does that not exclude you from playing junior level again or is it just for that year?
I think it is just for that year full back, but I am open to correction. I know for instance there are players playing for Cork juniors who have represented the senior squad over the years, albeit not in the last 2-3 years.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 07, 2009, 12:30:28 PM
Quote from: full back on August 07, 2009, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 07, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 07, 2009, 11:27:35 AM
I've never understood the County JFC. Can someone expain how a player becomes eligible/ineligible to compete?
I think the way it works is that your club has to be a junior club and you have not represented your county at a higher level. For instance in Cork here there is very strong representation on the county secne from Junior and Intermediate clubs. the likes of Canty, Noel O'Leary, Cussen, Alan Oconnor and Donnacha O'Connor play for junior or intermediate clubs. If they had not made the cut for the senior squad this year they could have played for the relevant county level that their club plays at.
What do you mean bc?
If you have represented the county at Senior level does that not exclude you from playing junior level again or is it just for that year?
I think it is just for that year full back, but I am open to correction. I know for instance there are players playing for Cork juniors who have represented the senior squad over the years, albeit not in the last 2-3 years.
Any idea why Armagh dont have a Junior team bc?
Armagh were Ulster Junior Champions in 1985
Flip me, financially supporting one county football team is hard enough in Tyrone, imagine having two of them :o
That probably is right then Bingobus, in Cork it is only players who play Junior club football can play Junior county.
Full Back, I don't know and I think it is a shame as I reckon it would be a good way for brining players on. Say for instance the like of Philly Loughran palyed a year or two Junior county to get himself fit for senior then he might have made it on a long term basis.
Back in the day, 70s 80s etc Junior County was effectively a Senior County B or reserve side
Quote from: T Fearon on August 07, 2009, 01:59:08 PM
Back in the day, 70s 80s etc Junior County was effectively a Senior County B or reserve side
As Rois alluded to, the cost of a county team has increased to such a degree that it has put off Ulster counties at lease from spending money on a junior side. It could potentially develop players for the county side, so could divisional sides but it hasn;t been tried in Ulster either.
Afaik there are 2 different qualifyng criteria, depending on the size of the County
A Your 2nd team for "smaller" counties
B Lads who didn't play SFC the previous year (Dublin, Kerry, Meath, Cork and I think Kerry and Mayo).
For example a mate of mine from Roscommon was astounded they lost to Dublin last year...... seemingly their team was very strong.
Quote from: Rav67 on August 07, 2009, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 07, 2009, 01:59:08 PM
Back in the day, 70s 80s etc Junior County was effectively a Senior County B or reserve side
As Rois alluded to, the cost of a county team has increased to such a degree that it has put off Ulster counties at lease from spending money on a junior side. It could potentially develop players for the county side, so could divisional sides but it hasn;t been tried in Ulster either.
Correct or as bc alluded to get players who have gone off the boil back into contention for a place on the Senior team ala Philly Loughran
Quote from: Canalman on August 07, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Afaik there are 2 different qualifyng criteria, depending on the size of the County
A Your 2nd team for "smaller" counties
B Lads who didn't play SFC the previous year (Dublin, Kerry, Meath, Cork and I think Kerry and Mayo).
For example a mate of mine from Roscommon was astounded they lost to Dublin last year...... seemingly their team was very strong.
Thats more like it. Plenty of lads on Cavans Junior team this year had played Ulster Senior Championship.Defeats the purpose of having a Junior team if ya ask me but thats Cavan for ya.
Eligibility in bigger Counties is restricted to players from Junior/Inter Clubs who didnt play inter Co Senior Championship this or last year. ( Cork/Dublin/Meath/Galway/Mayo and ?????)
In trhe smaller Counties everyone is eligible except those who played Senior Inter Co Championship this or last year.
Ros have used it as more or less a development squad this year. In Carrick when we BET MAYO ;D in the Connacht Final this year we had something like 11 or 12 lads who were 21 or younger on the panel. Mind you there were 8 or 9 more U21s on the Senior panel v Laythrum the same day.
Hopefully we can make the All Ireland Final in the grade to make up for blowing the Connacht Titles in U 21 and minor and of course blowing the chance of batin Kerry in Croke Pk also in the minor.
Is there a Junior B all-ireland?
No .
Time to start heading for the Hyde.
Different over here in England as, all counties except London, are deemed Junior so any and all players are elligible. The rules for London, apparently, state that any player is elligible, as long as he hasn't played Senior county or club in the last year. There's an article in this week's Irish World stating that the London manager is strengthening his squad with about 10 players not used for the British Championship!!
http://www.theirishworld.com/article.asp?SubSection_Id=8&Article_Id=10710 (http://www.theirishworld.com/article.asp?SubSection_Id=8&Article_Id=10710)
Any result?
Quote from: carnaross on August 09, 2009, 07:57:32 AM
Different over here in England as, all counties except London, are deemed Junior so any and all players are elligible. The rules for London, apparently, state that any player is elligible, as long as he hasn't played Senior county or club in the last year. There's an article in this week's Irish World stating that the London manager is strengthening his squad with about 10 players not used for the British Championship!!
http://www.theirishworld.com/article.asp?SubSection_Id=8&Article_Id=10710 (http://www.theirishworld.com/article.asp?SubSection_Id=8&Article_Id=10710)
Any result?
Ros 0-15 London 0-03
Ended up not going as we had to attend to a bit of a crisis. Listening to Willie and Donie means i will attend every County and Club match possible for the rest of my life ::)
Now for the final which I heard is fixed for Portlaoise on 22nd August.
It's our 3rd Final in 5 years so we'd better win this one.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2009, 09:08:10 PM
Ended up not going as we had to attend to a bit of a crisis. Listening to Willie and Donie means i will attend every County and Club match possible for the rest of my life ::)
Now for the final which I heard is fixed for Portlaoise on 22nd August.
It's our 3rd Final in 5 years so we'd better win this one.
That's also my intention!! Although it's not Willie and Donie who made me make that decision ;)