Just heard this one over the weekend, that Catholics call the town Ballinascreen and Protestants call it Draperstown, basicly the same as the Derry/Londonderry thing. And that this is quite common in Derry, Tyrone, Donegal and Fermanagh. Any truth in this?, and are there any other examples
Toome/Toomebridge
i think toome/toomebridge is another example
ballymena/shithole
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2008, 04:26:51 PM
i think toome/toomebridge is another example
Who calls which which?
Magheralin/Maralin (near Lurgan).
Pronounced the same way I think but its spelt a different way by both sides.
Lawrencetown (P)/Laurencetown(C)
County Down (Tullylish)
would there be such a thing as a protestant in toome/toomebridge?
Dunamanagh / Donemana
Cullaville (6 Counties)
Culloville (Free State)
I gotta confess, I never knew this. I always thought that the town itself was known as Draperstown, but the pitch and club were Ballinascreen (although really in Straw of course) - you know like Glen and Maghera.
You learn something new every day lads....
Quote from: Feckitt on March 18, 2008, 04:25:10 PM
Just heard this one over the weekend, that Catholics call the town Ballinascreen and Protestants call it Draperstown, basicly the same as the Derry/Londonderry thing. And that this is quite common in Derry, Tyrone, Donegal and Fermanagh. Any truth in this?, and are there any other examples
I wouldn't say that this was 100% correct. Otherwise the soccer team in the town would be Ballinascreen Celtic! If I was asked where I live, I would probably reply Ballinascreen, but that would be in reference to the entire parish not the town.
IMO people who are affiliated with the GAA club would say that they live in Ballinascreen, people who are not would say Draperstown!
Screenexile, Screenmachine & tbrick18 may have differing thoughts.
Ya I wuld have said the same as Estimator, if referring the the town is was Draperstown, but when referring to parish you say Ballinascreen. It is definintely not exlcusive C/P view on what to call it. While with Maghera is the town and Glen is just an area of the parish.
aye its the town/parish thing. dont think there was much need til start a thread over this, seems some people need to relate everything to religion/politics. if ye wanna go on like that then ye could name loads of places like that.
lavey/gulladuff, banagher/feeney, glen/maghera, etc, etc.
Quote from: 5 Sams on March 18, 2008, 05:28:03 PM
Cullaville (6 Counties)
Culloville (Free State)
That's two different villages mucker. They just happen to be side by side.
Anyone recall the battle of Ballinascreen when Down and Derry participated in one of the most foul ridden ,violent games ever.
Quote from: Pangurban on March 18, 2008, 11:47:18 PM
Anyone recall the battle of Ballinascreen when Down and Derry participated in one of the most foul ridden ,violent games ever.
Drici would remember. :'( :'(
Moira / Maire
Garvaghy/Garvacky
Quote from: Pangurban on March 18, 2008, 11:47:18 PM
Anyone recall the battle of Ballinascreen when Down and Derry participated in one of the most foul ridden ,violent games ever.
What year? I have some memory of Lavey (Gulladuff!) and some team from Cork (could be wrong?) hammering absolute lumps out of eachother in the early 90's though in Ballinascreen/Straw/St Colms/Draperstown.
QuoteMagheralin/Maralin (near Lurgan).
Pronounced the same way I think but its spelt a different way by both sides.
I thought it was called Magheralin and pronounced more like Maralin until I saw a van with the name 'maralin' on it the other day, and then I thought that it was put on the van incorrectly by some plonker.
As for Ballinascreen, I always thought that was the parish and Draperstown was the town just.
Donemana/Dunamanagh - still pronounced the same way, unless someone wants to start a thread on places which have several ways of being spelt.
lets not get started on moneyneenagh
Quote from: southderryman on March 18, 2008, 11:11:14 PM
aye its the town/parish thing. dont think there was much need til start a thread over this, seems some people need to relate everything to religion/politics. if ye wanna go on like that then ye could name loads of places like that.
lavey/gulladuff, banagher/feeney, glen/maghera, etc, etc.
banagher/feeney have no political argument or connoctations
Would you not say moneyneeny or moneyneena!!
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on March 19, 2008, 09:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pangurban on March 18, 2008, 11:47:18 PM
Anyone recall the battle of Ballinascreen when Down and Derry participated in one of the most foul ridden ,violent games ever.
What year? I have some memory of Lavey (Gulladuff!) and some team from Cork (could be wrong?) hammering absolute lumps out of eachother in the early 90's though in Ballinascreen/Straw/St Colms/Draperstown.
Skibereen I think - Lavey were losing, so adopted their age old tactic of getting a big row going!! They'd done it in their previous game against Tirconnail Gaels of London too.
I always thought the battle of Ballinascreen was Derry v Tyrone in '85, when the ref was attacked by the tyronies!!
Quote from: Bogball XV on March 19, 2008, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on March 19, 2008, 09:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pangurban on March 18, 2008, 11:47:18 PM
Anyone recall the battle of Ballinascreen when Down and Derry participated in one of the most foul ridden ,violent games ever.
What year? I have some memory of Lavey (Gulladuff!) and some team from Cork (could be wrong?) hammering absolute lumps out of eachother in the early 90's though in Ballinascreen/Straw/St Colms/Draperstown.
Skibereen I think - Lavey were losing, so adopted their age old tactic of getting a big row going!! They'd done it in their previous game against Tirconnail Gaels of London too.
I always thought the battle of Ballinascreen was Derry v Tyrone in '85, when the ref was attacked by the tyronies!!
It was O'Donovan Rossa Skibbereen.To the best of my knowledge, they hammered Lavey in the fight and on the scoreboard.
Quote from: youbetterbelieveit on March 19, 2008, 09:58:41 AM
Would you not say moneyneeny or moneyneena!!
The road signs and maps say moneyneeny, everyone pronounces moneyneena
Quote from: lynchbhoy on March 19, 2008, 09:52:43 AM
Quote from: southderryman on March 18, 2008, 11:11:14 PM
aye its the town/parish thing. dont think there was much need til start a thread over this, seems some people need to relate everything to religion/politics. if ye wanna go on like that then ye could name loads of places like that.
lavey/gulladuff, banagher/feeney, glen/maghera, etc, etc.
banagher/feeney have no political argument or connoctations
Agreed - my ma is from feeney
Yeah as far as I would care I would say I'm from Ballinascreen and then would have to clarify that with most people and say I'm from Draperstown. I know Catholics who call it Draperstown and Protestants who say they're from the Screen but really they're interchangeable for most.
Technically Draperstown is the town while Ballinascreen incorporates Draperstown, the Sixtowns, Straw and Moneyneenagh.
Best one I saw though was a flyer through the letterbox from the Church of Ireland representing the 'Parish of Ballynascreen'! I dunno!
As for Moneyneena/neenagh/neaney/nyeena... who cares? They're only a crowd of munchies anyway! :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Estimator on March 19, 2008, 10:29:41 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on March 19, 2008, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on March 19, 2008, 09:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pangurban on March 18, 2008, 11:47:18 PM
Anyone recall the battle of Ballinascreen when Down and Derry participated in one of the most foul ridden ,violent games ever.
What year? I have some memory of Lavey (Gulladuff!) and some team from Cork (could be wrong?) hammering absolute lumps out of eachother in the early 90's though in Ballinascreen/Straw/St Colms/Draperstown.
Skibereen I think - Lavey were losing, so adopted their age old tactic of getting a big row going!! They'd done it in their previous game against Tirconnail Gaels of London too.
I always thought the battle of Ballinascreen was Derry v Tyrone in '85, when the ref was attacked by the tyronies!!
It was O'Donovan Rossa Skibbereen.To the best of my knowledge, they hammered Lavey in the fight and on the scoreboard.
The clue is in the emboldened bit from Pangurban's original question. The original Battle of Ballinascreen took place in 1968 between Down and Derry. My next door neighbour's father played in it for Down.
All other battles mentioned above were mere skirmishes.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 19, 2008, 11:14:30 AM
Quote from: Estimator on March 19, 2008, 10:29:41 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on March 19, 2008, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on March 19, 2008, 09:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pangurban on March 18, 2008, 11:47:18 PM
Anyone recall the battle of Ballinascreen when Down and Derry participated in one of the most foul ridden ,violent games ever.
What year? I have some memory of Lavey (Gulladuff!) and some team from Cork (could be wrong?) hammering absolute lumps out of eachother in the early 90's though in Ballinascreen/Straw/St Colms/Draperstown.
Skibereen I think - Lavey were losing, so adopted their age old tactic of getting a big row going!! They'd done it in their previous game against Tirconnail Gaels of London too.
I always thought the battle of Ballinascreen was Derry v Tyrone in '85, when the ref was attacked by the tyronies!!
It was O'Donovan Rossa Skibbereen.To the best of my knowledge, they hammered Lavey in the fight and on the scoreboard.
The clue is in the emboldened bit from Pangurban's original question. The original Battle of Ballinascreen took place in 1968 between Down and Derry. My next door neighbour's father played in it for Down.
All other battles mentioned above were mere skirmishes.
I was once at a wedding where a lad from the Ards married a girl from Ballinascreen. Her uncle welcomed the Down contigent for tea/sandwhiches in the club house and mentioned the 'battle of Ballinscreen' which he says he took part in. I must say that was the first I heard of it but me da who's of an older vintage had heard of it
maghera/mackaraa
Quote from: Drumanee 1 on March 19, 2008, 01:02:53 PM
maghera/mackaraa
Any thing with a 'gh' in it seems to confuse the other boys.
Ackado-eh for example. Or the name Donaghey becomes Donacky
In Armagh- Laurelvale/ Mullavilly. The first version has a cricket club and the second has a chapel and a parish hall and is part of the same parish as Ballyhegan yet they both seem to be in the same place on the map?
Blackwatertown / An Port Mor
Mullaghbawn/Mullabawn
Never knew about Ballinscreen and Draperstown. Always knew about Toome and Toomebridge though. Mind you, that lot can't even decide on the name of their new bridge.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 19, 2008, 02:00:07 PM
Blackwatertown / An Port Mor
sure is that place not part of the Moy anyway?
Quote from: screenexile on March 19, 2008, 11:11:46 AM
As for Moneyneena/neenagh/neaney/nyeena... who cares? They're only a crowd of munchies anyway! :D :D :D :D
Draperstown his hardly metropolis central now!! ;)
Ballinascreen and Draperstown are two separate entities. Draperstown is a village incorporated in the parish of Ballinascreen. Draperstown is not a British name for Ballinascreen. Draperstown was formerly known as Baile na Croise prior to the plantatition.
All the above named places are only accessible if you have a twin cam or subaru. Suped up 306's allowed with authorised passes.
Quote from: Feckitt on March 18, 2008, 04:25:10 PM
Just heard this one over the weekend, that Catholics call the town Ballinascreen and Protestants call it Draperstown, basicly the same as the Derry/Londonderry thing. And that this is quite common in Derry, Tyrone, Donegal and Fermanagh. Any truth in this?, and are there any other examples
Ok lads, since I started the thread it seems that I was wrong about the Screen/Draperstown thing. It's not the same as Delhi/Londondelhi. Also it is obvious that the majority of other examples thrown up here are just differences in spelling, and not necessarily a RC/Prod divide in names.
Hate driving through Draperstown and Straw now. So many fecking speed bumps. Feckin Twin Cams
you should try going over those speedbumps with a trailor load of sheep attached to your ball hitch
Quote from: DickyRock on March 20, 2008, 11:03:34 AM
Hate driving through Draperstown and Straw now. So many fecking speed bumps. Feckin Twin Cams
I wish they'd get them in Greencastle.
one speedbump would probably suffice in Greencastle.
how about using this guy as the speedbump
Quote from: Bogball XV on March 18, 2008, 08:28:04 PM
I gotta confess, I never knew this. I always thought that the town itself was known as Draperstown, but the pitch and club were Ballinascreen (although really in Straw of course) - you know like Glen and Maghera.
You learn something new every day lads....
You and me both Bog....I was born and reared there and thats the way I always referred to the place. The town in draperstown and the club/parish is ballinascreen.
Quote from: unforgiven on March 20, 2008, 11:19:03 AM
one speedbump would probably suffice in Greencastle.
how about using this guy as the speedbump
That's unforgiveable......
:D
Quote from: heganboy on March 19, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
In Armagh- Laurelvale/ Mullavilly. The first version has a cricket club and the second has a chapel and a parish hall and is part of the same parish as Ballyhegan yet they both seem to be in the same place on the map?
I thought these were seperated by the Portydown road?
Quote from: tram on March 20, 2008, 01:02:01 PM
They've been laying speed bumps here recently, and they're painting them today! :o
So that's what they were at this morning. What's with the electricians though?