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Poll
Question: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Option 1: McGarry votes: 1
Option 2: Cummins votes: 6
Option 3: Fitzhenry votes: 39
Option 4: Donal Og votes: 8
Option 5: Brian Murray votes: 1
Title: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: sligeach on November 15, 2007, 11:23:54 AM
Simply put lads, whos the best at the minute ?
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 11:46:40 AM
Not sure you can include Mc Garry when he is not playing for Kilkenny. I would actually put Fitzgerald at the top prior to his hissy fit with Considine. Cummins is renowned for the Hollywood saves but can be dodgy IMHO. I voted for Fitzhenry though.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: sligeach on November 15, 2007, 11:48:50 AM
Yeah I thought that about James but I always thought he was a very steady man between the posts. Nothing dramatic etc but got the job done.

Maybe not gone for good ?
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: sligeach on November 15, 2007, 11:48:50 AM
Yeah I thought that about James but I always thought he was a very steady man between the posts. Nothing dramatic etc but got the job done.

Maybe not gone for good ?

I think he didnt have much to do because the ball was always at the other end of the pitch !Rarely made any glaring errors though.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
I don't think anyone will vote for Donal Og.

I wouldnt have voted for the ballacks even if he wasnt in the GPA.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2007, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
I don't think anyone will vote for Donal Og.

I wouldnt have voted for the ballacks even if he wasnt in the GPA.

He is the best IMO, but again, I wouldn't vote for him. Detest him
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: johnneycool on November 15, 2007, 12:50:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2007, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
I don't think anyone will vote for Donal Og.

I wouldnt have voted for the ballacks even if he wasnt in the GPA.

He is the best IMO, but again, I wouldn't vote for him. Detest him

As a goalkeeper he went up in my estimations over the last year or so, but his whinging would get on your tits.

I still think I'd prefer Damian Fitzhenry behind me though.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: whiskeysteve on November 15, 2007, 12:51:39 PM
I voted for him

just to sicken yis

awooga
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: sligeach on November 15, 2007, 12:58:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 15, 2007, 12:50:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2007, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
I don't think anyone will vote for Donal Og.

I wouldnt have voted for the ballacks even if he wasnt in the GPA.

He is the best IMO, but again, I wouldn't vote for him. Detest him

As a goalkeeper he went up in my estimations over the last year or so, but his whinging would get on your tits.

I still think I'd prefer Damian Fitzhenry behind me though.

Wouldn't everyone ?
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Pull Hard Hes No Relation on November 15, 2007, 01:37:09 PM
I voted for Donal Og, hard call between himself and Fitzhenry as they are both great keppers. I think the public preception of Donal Og is very off in terms of the GPA thing, he is doing a lot of the heavy lifting for a lot of players in the background and taking the flak accordingly.

The guys trains his own club team, is involve in the juvenile coaching in his club and has shown a real willingness to be involved in hurling promotion around the country.

Sligeach - your last comment was a low dig and says more about you and your mentality than the palyer you tried to slight. Gobsh*te.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 01:37:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 15, 2007, 12:50:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2007, 12:33:37 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
I don't think anyone will vote for Donal Og.

I wouldnt have voted for the ballacks even if he wasnt in the GPA.

He is the best IMO, but again, I wouldn't vote for him. Detest him

As a goalkeeper he went up in my estimations over the last year or so, but his whinging would get on your tits.

I still think I'd prefer Damian Fitzhenry behind me though.

How close would you like him Johnney?  :o
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Kevin on November 15, 2007, 05:11:46 PM
Fitzhenry - the best over the last 12 years amidst very solid competition.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: billy the kid on November 15, 2007, 05:17:44 PM
Pull Hard Hes No Relation, are you Donal Og in Disguise???

sligeach Cheeky one, but Pull Hard Hes No Relation your getting a bit wound up dont you think???

I voted for Fitzhenry as he def the best in terms of high ball, presence, shot stopping, poc outs and consistency. He has the whole package.

Thought Clinton Morrisson from Waterford should have been in contention though he had a fine year.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: billy the kid on November 15, 2007, 05:19:10 PM
Would also agree with that Kevin
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: dodo on November 15, 2007, 11:07:36 PM
A bit like Shay Given with Newcastle/Ireland, Fitzhenry is always prominent in his matches as is kept busy playing on an average team. The comparison is particularly apt as both are class keepers and have been playing to a high standard over a long period. Surprise surprise.......he got my vote.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: sligeach on November 16, 2007, 04:13:47 AM
Quote from: Pull Hard Hes No Relation on November 15, 2007, 01:37:09 PM
Sligeach - your last comment was a low dig and says more about you and your mentality than the palyer you tried to slight. Gobsh*te.

Actually if your referring to his sexuality, thats not what i meant. I just realised what you meant after reading what you wrote and what i wrote again.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: magpie seanie on November 16, 2007, 09:05:21 AM
Fitzhenry for me. In an era of many good hurling 'keepers he has been the best in my eyes. Absolutely superb.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Bord na Mona man on November 16, 2007, 11:10:02 AM
Fitzhenry has been the best for 10 or 12 years.
Davy Fitz was right up there also, but slightly more prone to mistakes than Fitzhenry and the Wexford man would give more accurate puck outs.

At the moment there is a changing of the guard with the great keepers of the last decade.
McGarry, Cummins, Davy Fitz and possibly Fitzhenry shuffling on.

However with promising keepers like Brian Murray, Philip Brennan etc coming through, we will have plenty of new talent to keep an eye on.

Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: hheurebag on November 16, 2007, 11:05:41 PM
theres a very promising keeper in wexford, ciaran boyle.... being hailed as the next davy fitz
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Roashter on November 17, 2007, 04:17:22 AM
Very surprised you left Fitzgerald out of the candidates. I now he didn't play last year (and most likely his own fault), but chances are we will see him in action this year.
I would still give Fitzhenry the no.1 spot followed closely by Fitzgerald and then Cummins a bit further back.
As much as I dislike Donal Og, I'd have to give him the no.4 for the way he has improved his game over the past few years and if he keeps going the way he is he'll be pushing for no.1 pretty soon.

Like everone else I thought McGarry didn't get the credit he deserved, and this was due to the excellence of the cats defence. However, I think he was badly shown up when he left in 5 against Galway, and hasn't really recoveredd since.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Louth Exile on November 17, 2007, 04:53:55 PM
Fitzhenry, but Cummins a close second. Wouldn't have much time for Cusack or Fitzgerald on account of their whinging!
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: orangeman on November 18, 2007, 04:28:33 PM
Fitzhenry by a mile both in terms of his goal keeping ability and his personality.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Onlooker on November 21, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
Just for the record, Billy the Kid, the Waterford goalkeeper is Clinton Hennessy.  Clinton Morrison is a 2nd rate soccer player!!.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: deiseach on November 21, 2007, 05:51:34 PM
Clinton Morrison . . .

Amazed to see the consensus building behind Fitzhenry - not because I don't agree, but because people rarely agree on anything here!
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: sligeach on November 22, 2007, 06:05:11 AM
Quote from: deiseach on November 21, 2007, 05:51:34 PM
Clinton Morrison . . .

Amazed to see the consensus building behind Fitzhenry - not because I don't agree, but because people rarely agree on anything here!

I don't find it surprising at all man. Its fairly obvious to everyone he is the best at the moment, the mans just pure class and has being for how long.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Teeling Gael on November 22, 2007, 09:28:29 AM
Like Davy Fitz , who was an average goalkeeper in 1995 but who developed into an outstanding goalkeeper  by 2002 ish , Donal Og was an average goalkeeper when he first emerged. However in the last few seasons he has developed into an outstanding goalkeeper and is in my opinion now the best goalie in the country. Fitzhenry is undoubtedly the most consistent goalie in the country over a ten year period.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Sky Blue on November 22, 2007, 12:37:48 PM
Fitzhenry is pure class.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: orangeman on November 25, 2007, 12:08:49 PM
Fitzhenry has shown his class over 10 years + and has been ultra consistent.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: neilthemac on November 25, 2007, 12:53:48 PM
Fitzhenry always has to make more saves due to the porous nature of the Yellow Bellies defence!
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: timmykelleher on November 29, 2007, 01:38:39 PM
It has to be Donal Òg Cusack for me.

Someone mentioned presence under the high ball.... the best example of this is Donal Òg's catch when Eoin McGrath threw himself and his hurley at the ball. The hurley ended up in the net but the ball ended up safely in Donal Òg's hand.


He even saves points. [Ken McGrath's free]

Duignan raves about his puck outs but I wouldn't be too sure a statistical breakdown of possession secured from them would back this up.

Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: johnneycool on November 29, 2007, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: timmykelleher on November 29, 2007, 01:38:39 PM
It has to be Donal Òg Cusack for me.

Someone mentioned presence under the high ball.... the best example of this is Donal Òg's catch when Eoin McGrath threw himself and his hurley at the ball. The hurley ended up in the net but the ball ended up safely in Donal Òg's hand.


He even saves points. [Ken McGrath's free]

Duignan raves about his puck outs but I wouldn't be too sure a statistical breakdown of possession secured from them would back this up.




Considering he's pucking out to a relatively poor aerial wise half forward line he may have no other options
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Sky Blue on November 29, 2007, 05:36:40 PM
It seems like these guys (with the exception of Murray) have been around for ever. How long can they all go on? Will Wee Davy be back next year - I hope so.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: orangeman on November 29, 2007, 05:39:58 PM
Donal og will be the best now - he can puck out a few grant cheques !  :D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: bottlethrower7 on November 30, 2007, 10:17:53 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on November 15, 2007, 05:17:44 PM
[Thought Clinton Morrisson from Waterford should have been in contention though he had a fine year.

ha ha, brilliant. When hes not pretending to be Irish you mean? (I think Clinton Hennessy is the lad's name!)

The 2 Fitzys are the best keepers around since the early to mid-90s. Others have had their day in the sun (Cummins, Donal Og, McGarry), but haven't been as consistently excellent as Fitzgerald or Fitzhenry. If I'd the gun to my head and had to pick between those 2 I think Davy Fitz is the more talented shot-stopper, but he causes awful disruption to a team and tends to get the opposition going more. Damien Fitz is a quiet, unassuming lad (had the pleasure of playing against him once), and doesn't nothing more than get on with his job and let the hurling do the talking. So I'd pick Fitzhenry.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: timmykelleher on November 30, 2007, 02:38:13 PM
The fact that Fitzhenry comes up the field to score match winning goals every now and again is usefull.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: Silky on November 30, 2007, 04:47:16 PM
Fitzhenry just shades wee Davy IMO.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: orangeman on December 02, 2007, 10:25:42 AM
Looks like the contest is well and truly over - 70% of us go for Fitzhenry  - case closed.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: stevetharlear on December 13, 2007, 12:13:39 AM
Cusack is by far the best all round keeper in the country at the moment and has been for at least 4 years now, even some of the stuff he pulled off this year behind a very low in confidence defence was awesome. High ball, shot stopping, accurate puck-outs(when allowed) and for sheer balls, he's top of the lot.
If you were to take the last 10 or more years though Fitzhenry would walk it in Goalkeeping terms, Fitzy would have it in balls/ mentalness terms, and Cummins would walk the "Flashbulb" saves/ being too big for his boots award. Honourable mention to McGarry for being a hugely unsung hero around the country, we'll give him the "dennis irwin" award for consistency.
Title: Re: Current Best Hurling Keeper ?
Post by: johnneycool on December 13, 2007, 01:04:48 PM
I don't think wee davy should go back to the Clare county panel as the current keeper is very good and doesn't need undermined by wee Davy.

Davy has two celtic crosses in his hip pocket, time for some young blood to make their mark.