If Quantas Airlines are not the sponsors of Laois this year they should. Them Aussie f**kers have persuaded Brendan Quigley to return to play with Cartlon and he is flying out in two weeks. Colm Begley is remaining in Australia and now, worst news of all is the fact that they have targeted Zach Tuohy, he who scored goal of the year against Derry in the Minor All-Ireland. He is reported to be going out after he completes his school certificate, aptly called, The Leaving.
With Fergal Byron after announcing his retirement, Begley, Quigley and Tuohy on the move this is a serious chunk of our team that have dissapeared and don't be surprised if Donie Kingston doesn't do the same.
Tough times ahead for our little county with only a few clubs to pick a county team from.
classic bud :D
Quote from: Bud Wiser on November 03, 2007, 08:52:10 AM
If Quantas Airlines are not the sponsors of Laois this year they should. Them Aussie f**kers have persuaded Brendan Quigley to return to play with Cartlon and he is flying out in two weeks. Colm Begley is remaining in Australia and now, worst news of all is the fact that they have targeted Zach Tuohy, he who scored goal of the year against Derry in the Minor All-Ireland. He is reported to be going out after he completes his school certificate, aptly called, The Leaving.
With Fergal Byron after announcing his retirement, Begley, Quigley and Tuohy on the move this is a serious chunk of our team that have dissapeared and don't be surprised if Donie Kingston doesn't do the same.
Tough times ahead for our little county with only a few clubs to pick a county team from.
Not good news at all..Is it confirmed about Quigley and Touhy?
Burn the passport office - at under 12 training take their passports off them and give them bakc at around 25 !
Donie Kingston would be a huge loss.. what a minor
Tuohy, Quigley and Begley are confirmed and there are a few of the Mayo lads going as well.
There was a story one time about when president Kennedy went back to Dunganstown and he had to get up on an old trailer to make a speech. The boys were setting up the big microphone and across the road a farmer was loading a tractor and trailer with cowshite. One of Kenneds men, not knowing the mike was switched on asked Kennedey, "Whar is that stuff they are loading in the opoen truck sir" and Kennedy said, "It is cowshite, and if my grandfather had not come to America I would be shovelling it instead of him" which to the amusement of all those in the peaked caps sucking on the woodbines came out over the speaker.
Well it is the same with the young lads. Just put yourself in their position and think what it would be like lying in bed that night after the phone call from Australia? Imagine the thoughts and dreams that would be going through your head, a new life, thousands of dollars and your pick of the Sheila's? Would I give it all up for Bord Na Mona or packing meat in Glanbia or Kepak - and of course having to read The Herald. Bloody sure I would. So it is not player disloyalty, don't blame the young lads and it is not our call to suggest they be banned from the GAA or anything else, we have no right to run their lives from a discussion board.
So what do we do? Well I will suggest what we should do. The GAA should set up an Enterprise Board similar to the government one that is already in place. It would be for players who have been sucessful at minor level and who are completing their leaving certificate. Instead of "looking after them" by securing a job with Paddy Joe Hickey, until they are finished playing and then dumped, a facility in coaching them to run their own business, whetehr it be importing and distributing stainless steel for cow milking parlours or building their own design of computer should be available - and through government sponsored funds instead of this GPA selective shite that is going on.
Full support on how to set up accounting, financial support, capital equipment grants on a pay back like exists and an embroyonic system to get young lads up and riunning shoulkd be in place and what a credit to the GAA that would be, and it would not be hard to implement because if Dessie Farrel can get lads from Galway and Castlebar to drive to Boyle in Roscommon to listen to him waffle on about what he is going to do for them then a properly structured GAA Enterprise Board would be a doddle, particulary at a time when between 80% - 95% of franchises in this country are either Brit or American owned, seems all we can make are sanwitches and if your name is O'Brien you are ok.
The plain and simple fact is that there should be more to life for a young lad who is bright, alert, fit and ready to make a go of it here other than looking up flights to Australia. With all due respect to FAS the answer is not to be found learning how to talk into a phone using a banana or being given menial jobs with supplementary wages. Give them free executive level training and help and encouragement to stay here and to run their own business instead of paltry handouts from Dessie Farrell or jobs as high profile sales reps for Brit companies but only for as long as their popularity lasts.
Thats what I think anyway.
Good ideas there Budwiser - food for thought. But is there anyone listening ?
Well I remember last year they were going to have a national hurling coach or someone going around the country in a big car and there is nothing wrong with that. So why not get a professional guy that can help young lads set up their own business. Recently a contributor on the board was setting up his own company and he was seeking advice on what he should call it and colour schemes for a van etc. Now just suppose he was a really good footballer and he was thinking of going to Australia and someone stepped in with a match funding grant and said right, heres how you do it and they give him a full start up package and a list of contacts to get him up and running. A small capital expenses grant that would be interest free and repayable could be an option but the idea that I am suggesting would have to be thought through.
I think you're idea is brilliant - but is there anyone out there listening - write to Nicky Brennan and share the idea please - let me know if you get a reply !
I see what you are on about Bud. Presently there are third level education scolarships for talented GAA players, but for young and upcoming players who are not focused on furthering their formal education I'm unaware of any assistance being offered. Their profile enables them to benefit in the job market or trades but an attractive offer from Oz would be very hard to refuse regardless.
Your proposal to offer non-interest capital loans and advice to start up their own businesses is unrealistic as these lads would be too young and lacking in the knowledge and experience to run their own enterprises. I know you have stated that your idea is not the finished article but here lies the problem as there is very little to stop lads from heading to Oz for a potential professional career if the offer is good enough.
I'm personally disappointed that Pierse Hanley is heading/gone as I have never been as impressed by a young Mayo player at his age. To see by your original post that there are possibly other Mayo lads about to go doesn't exactly fill me with joy either. For a county like Laois to be loosing 3/4 players after all the work that has been put in by the various coaches must be disheartening. Good luck to these players in whatever is in store for them.
Quote from: dodo on November 04, 2007, 07:24:23 PM
I'm personally disappointed that Pierse Hanley is heading/gone ................there are possibly other Mayo lads about to go .....
Hanley is a Ros lad. ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on November 04, 2007, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: dodo on November 04, 2007, 07:24:23 PM
I'm personally disappointed that Pierse Hanley is heading/gone ................there are possibly other Mayo lads about to go .....
Hanley is a Ros lad. ;)
Hanley is now a Brisbane Lion :(
But he'll always of had the honour of playing minor, u-21 and senior for Mayo 8)
If he'd had a choice he would have played for his own County ;)
Quote from: dodo on November 04, 2007, 07:24:23 PM
I'm personally disappointed that Pierse Hanley is heading/gone as I have never been as impressed by a young Mayo player at his age. To see by your original post that there are possibly other Mayo lads about to go doesn't exactly fill me with joy either. For a county like Laois to be loosing 3/4 players after all the work that has been put in by the various coaches must be disheartening. Good luck to these players in whatever is in store for them.
Cant say i agree witht that at all. The coaches dont have a monopoly on what a young lad does and if they are bitter to see someone go to do other things they should get out of the game. They should (and im sure they do)have pride when they see the likes of Kennely and Clarke on the big screen doing well in Oz and im sure there clubs managers down the years would be bursting with pride that they are just a little bit responsible for their achievments.
Jesus lads what a blow for Laois, this is getting annoying-worrying. Begley, Quigley and Tuohy are good but Kingston is something else.
Quote from: ludermor on November 05, 2007, 12:44:58 PM
Quote from: dodo on November 04, 2007, 07:24:23 PM
I'm personally disappointed that Pierse Hanley is heading/gone as I have never been as impressed by a young Mayo player at his age. To see by your original post that there are possibly other Mayo lads about to go doesn't exactly fill me with joy either. For a county like Laois to be loosing 3/4 players after all the work that has been put in by the various coaches must be disheartening. Good luck to these players in whatever is in store for them.
Cant say i agree witht that at all. The coaches dont have a monopoly on what a young lad does and if they are bitter to see someone go to do other things they should get out of the game. They should (and im sure they do)have pride when they see the likes of Kennely and Clarke on the big screen doing well in Oz and im sure there clubs managers down the years would be bursting with pride that they are just a little bit responsible for their achievments.
As selfless and all as most coaches are there would have to be some level of disappointment for them to have spent as much time and effort with these top young players and then to have them whipped away from their game by Aussies offering professional contracts. Most people I reckon, as I do, would wish these players well in their efforts in making it in Oz, but surely the coaches etc are entitled to feel less than delighted that their county side will suffer as a consequence of the creaming off of this talent.
Laois are a very good example as they are reportedly loosing the greatest numbers at the moment. Their coaching of young lads is the envy of most counties and deserve great credit for this. They have won 3 AI minor titles and 6 Leinsters since 1996, this years team were another excellent crop that lost the AI final. All this in a county with a population of ~60,000 and this including an area that hurling dominates. It would be great for all who have helped these players along the way to see them lift Sam for the very first time, they'd hardly be as happy if Brendan Quigley wins a title with the Brisbane Lions would they ! Don't know where I mentioned or alluded in my previous post about coaches having "a monopoly on what a young lad does".
How come that the Aussies are not targeting young Kerry players. Surely you would expect that the first port of call would be the home of football where the most naturally talented players are in abundance. :D
Young players in Kerry are surrounded by an invisible yerra force field which convinces outsiders that prodigous young players are no use.
Quote from: Jinxy on November 05, 2007, 10:44:03 PM
Young players in Kerry are surrounded by an invisible yerra force field which convinces outsiders that prodigous young players are no use.
Do you think that explains our lack of success at minor and U21 lately?? I've heard of Kerry cute hoorism being used as an explanation for a few things but ??? ??? ???
Quote from: Frank Casey on November 05, 2007, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on November 05, 2007, 10:44:03 PM
Young players in Kerry are surrounded by an invisible yerra force field which convinces outsiders that prodigous young players are no use.
Do you think that explains our lack of success at minor and U21 lately?? I've heard of Kerry cute hoorism being used as an explanation for a few things but ??? ??? ???
YES! The powerful force field can have a negative effect on the players themselves. The county board turn it off when a young lad starts training with the seniors. The cute hoors!
Quote from: Jinxy on November 05, 2007, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: Frank Casey on November 05, 2007, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on November 05, 2007, 10:44:03 PM
Young players in Kerry are surrounded by an invisible yerra force field which convinces outsiders that prodigous young players are no use.
Do you think that explains our lack of success at minor and U21 lately?? I've heard of Kerry cute hoorism being used as an explanation for a few things but ??? ??? ???
YES! The powerful force field can have a negative effect on the players themselves. The county board turn it off when a young lad starts training with the seniors. The cute hoors!
Yerra lads we're caught - the game is up.
Quigley decides against Australian move
AFTER weeks of consideration Brendan Quigley has decided against going to Australia to resume his Australian Rules career.
Quigley had been considering a move to the Melbourne-based Carlton club but eventually decided late last week to stay in Ireland and continue his inter-county career with Laois and his club career with Timahoe.
The news will be a significant boost to Laois manager Liam Kearns who sets about re-building the Laois senior team. Quigley had been persued by Carlton since the end of the inter-county season and, although there was an issue with the Brisbane Lions over his previous involvement with them, the Australian Football League (AFL) cleared the way for Quigley to link up with Carlton, where Cork's Setanta O'hAilpin, Aisake O'hAilpin and Michael Shields are all currently based.
Quigley initially decided to turn his back on Aussie Rules about ten days ago and while Carlton did ask him to re-consider - with first-team manager Kevin Sheedy even getting involved - the case was finally closed over the weekend.
-Leinster Express
He must have been swayed by the massive grants :D
A night on the rip with Colm Parkinson who went on a tour when he was most needed might change his mind again ! Keep him in the "Skinners" in Ballyroan and regale him with storys of Paddy Peacock because as sure as eggs from a duck a young lad will change his mind. Let the odd slap on the back be a hard one!