Pat Spillane on Des Cahill Show castigated Tyrone football tonight. He criticised the negative tactics of Tyrone and Armagh footballers and blamed the mangers
Quote from: LegalEagle on August 22, 2007, 07:00:20 PM
Pat Spillane on Des Cahill Show castigated Tyrone football tonight. He criticised the negative tactics of Tyrone and Armagh footballers and blamed the mangers
Christ, I was listening to the interivew, ableit I missed about a minute of it as I travelled from my car to my house, but I never heard him even mention Tyrone or Armagh!
Maybe the Ulster bies have gone mad with the lack of football..they are hearing things
Find it repeated here. An interview with the Kerry great.
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/drivetimesport/1121119.html
RTE must be trying to tackle all the adverse criticism he is shipping at the moment
Cant comment on the interview as I didnt here it but his attitude and constant digs at the northern teams are a disgrace to the gaa, who's ethos are based on unity. His criticism is way over the top and seems to be based on geography. Id say close to 50% of his Sunday world articles involve a dig at Tyrone football even though Tyrone have been relatively quiet this past 2 years. In 2005 he sat in the Sunday game studio and said Tyrone were great champions and played pure football etc. He seems to have wiped all the classic matches of that year out of his system and instead focuses on 2 poor games in 2003. Every other county in Ireland have been involved in poor games over the past few years but dont get a mention. Cork for example have been involved in 2 all ireland semis with Kerry and a quarter with Sligo that have been at best woeful. Those 2 semi's dont get a mention becasue the result favoured Kerry. Id even say that many neutrals found the 03 semi more entertaining than those 2 with Cork. Why does he never mention Cork's style of play? They have more men behind the ball than the ulster teams and do a lot more handpasssing. It also has to be pointed out that Tyrone have been involved in more classic games this past 5 years than Kerry. I cant understand why he wants to keep putting the boot in Tyrone and other ulster teams, especially now they're out. Im biased but I for one dont feel the championship is a better place without at least 1 of the ulster teams at the semi stage.
Jayz, TyroneDreamer, it sounds like you actually put value on what thon eejit has to say. The lad has a big chip on his shoulder about Northern Ireland - it's not about the football. :o
I dont understand why people are still getting so upset about Spillaine. His constant attacks on Ulster sides are either an act to wind Northern fans up and give him loads of publicity or else he's simply a deluded clown. Either way he cant be taken seriously as a pundit, ignore him!
Most of us agree that hes a f##kin clown, but the irony is that, this year and next year, just like the last 5 or 6 years, the same clown will make thousands at guest appearances in any number of ulster clubs!!
Pat Spillane really doesn't command much respect or attention now - he's trying to catch up but is failing miserably.
T'is no wonder he's so poisoned -- in all his involvement with the teams of Mick O'Dwyer, not once did Micko mention the opposition, or key opposition players (by his own assertion)! The poor man's demented by the beautiful, disingenuous, naïve nostalgia of it all! (Could someone break it to him gently it's 2007 for Christ's sake!) ???
I honestly do believe that Pat was insanely jealous of the plaudits Tyrone and Armagh were receiving. This is remarkable for a man with so many Celtic crosses and All-Stars. When Tyrone defeated Kerry with an attractive brand of high tempo support play and finsihing in 2005, he congratulated us through gritted teeth, but within 6 months he'd wiped it out of his memory bank and reverted back to August 2003. Pat didn't want the media to recognise that Tyrone had taken what Kerry were so good at in 1980 onto another level. He harps on about 'foot' not 'hand'. His Kerry were the masters of the 'hand'ball.
O'Neill, may I take the liberty of adridging your post? Precis we used to call it when I was at school.
QuoteI honestly do believe that Pat was insane [chop]
You oul boys.....
What's the general consensus on Spillane in Kerry itself? Sheehy? KM?
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2007, 12:06:05 AM
What's the general consensus on Spillane in Kerry itself?
I get the impression he's like the mad uncle. He splits the family (Kingdom) into two factions, with one half hyper-critical and the other half hyper-supportive, but if anyone from outside the family (Kingdom) dares say a word against him, they'll cleave together quicker than a zany zipper to assail the assailant!
Great footballer in his day, was prone to a bit a play acting but scored some bamboozling points and goals for us, the torture he put himself through to regain fitness after a couple of major knee operations has to be respected, swiming accross Kenmare Bay and strapping big weights to his ankles are the signs of a mad man, he will carry his footballing injuries with him for life. His first book was just about readable and stirred up alot of ruptions in the Kingdom, his second was pure yerra.
He's a typical Cute Kerry Hoor, He winds people up on the SG and in the SW but dont take him too seriously dont read or watch him if he pisses you off that much, I laugh at him mostly. He is very passionate about Football and if he is a little biased towards the Kingdom so be it, anyone that has met him or called into his pub will always get a warm welcome.
QuoteWhat's the general consensus on Spillane in Kerry itself? Sheehy? KM?
of course he is an eejit but if you add up the Paddy heaneys, Joe Brollys etc with their constant sniping at Kerry and our "soft" AI then that easily counterbalances anything that Pat Spillane has to say.
Jesus I think Mr Sheehy may indeed be Mr Pat Spillane in disguise ;)
Quote from: Kerry Mike on August 23, 2007, 12:25:50 AM
Great footballer in his day, was prone to a bit a play acting but scored some bamboozling points and goals for us, the torture he put himself through to regain fitness after a couple of major knee operations has to be respected, swiming accross Kenmare Bay and strapping big weights to his ankles are the signs of a mad man, he will carry his footballing injuries with him for life. His first book was just about readable and stirred up alot of ruptions in the Kingdom, his second was pure yerra.
He's a typical Cute Kerry Hoor, He winds people up on the SG and in the SW but dont take him too seriously dont read or watch him if he pisses you off that much, I laugh at him mostly. He is very passionate about Football and if he is a little biased towards the Kingdom so be it, anyone that has met him or called into his pub will always get a warm welcome.
his first book was great imo
I wouldnt say he was a play actor in the diving sense, he would waste time , pure cuteness...
but its well known that he was no tough guy , as he admits himself in that book - Heffo brought him in the squad to play the aussies and only used him as a runner because he hadnt the stomach to play in what was an all out war of a series.
but sure we are a nation of nutcases.
I think Spillane is a dose of the highest order, but I think he's good value. As long as you don't take to heart what he says, the craic is good.
Anyway, does anyone take him serious anymore... even in Kerry?
BTW, the interview with Des was very good I thought. The first time I ever remember Spillane coming across as likeable!
jesus lads i heard the full interview and to me he did not slag neither tyrone or armagh,he mentioned how hard it was to win back to back all irelands today and even said that kerry would not have won as many in the modern game as he said they only had to peak twice a year for cork and dublin,al in all he came across very well and was very honest in his opinions
Hurrah for Pat then !! All is forgiven !
Spillane = 2 ends of a cnut
In fairness and truth, it was an interesting interview, and contrary to the tripe he writes he came across well. Why does he have to descend to the gutter-press levels of a modern day Faustian pact to have such low digs at members of the organisation he professes to love so much, who themselves have given so much to the organisation I can only guess at, and it's not a pretty guess.
That Micko never mentioned the opposition, or any key players thereof, in Pat's time is surely a relic of that time, and of that uniquely great team. Perhaps that's what he has difficultly coming to terms with: that Micko could only have been so cavalier about tactics in respect of the opposition with one team, and one team only; it's surely not an approach he could have persisted with on his travels throughout management elsewhere... or could he?
Stopped outside his pub in Templenoe last year but couldn't bring myself to darken his threshold. Don't doubt that the welcome would have been warm or such, but doubted my own ability to stomach, at best, insincerity, or at worst, outright hypocrisy. If only he didn't sell his soul for the dirty buck, for his legacy and image are tarnished forever.
The problem is that there are so many idiots who know nothing about the games who watch the Sunday Game or read what he writes in the Sunday Worst and take it as gospel.
I've no doubt he's a nice fella in person and have heard evidence to support this. People that have passion about something - well in my book I'd make allowances for them over folk that are 2 dimensional and boring. I was a huge admirer of him as a player - in fact he was probably my first GAA hero. Fierce disappointed when I called into the pub in Templenoe and he wasn't there but I nearly knocked a few of his trophies off the wall with the pool cue by accident!
An all-time great but not what is required as a TV presenter or pundit for GAA in my book.
Is it just by chance that Brolly and Spillane don't seem to come head to head.
Did Spillane want to move to Sunday game host to avoid Smart asses Joe or was it simply Joe needed to get back to Ravenhill Rd in time to put the waynes to school?
I'd love to see Joe on the Sunday game some day with Spillane or even better have the two of them in a head to head discussion about football with an audience.
Now that would be entertaining.
In fairness to Tohill, he handles him well and often dimisses his childish Norn Bias with a long pause and eye roll to the heavens before answering a different question.
I think its unfair of RTE Sport to continue with such a unliked host of their national games and I'd say all the guests on the show can't bear the sight of him either.
Even lick ass Yes man Tony Davis has been often rubbed up the wrong way with Spillane.
Spillane reminds me of the hateful clubmate who no-one wants to sit beside on the journey to the big game as he will continue to nag and do yer head in
I think we should all bombard RTE until we get rid of the Fecker.
FOS - That's scathing - do you think he does it for the money ? Surely not ? I asked this question before - does anybody know how much these special guests / experts / presenters get for doing the Sunday game ?? Just curiousity.
Quote from: orangeman on August 23, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
FOS - That's scathing - do you think he does it for the money ?
In a word orangeman (his tabloid trash), yes.
Quote from: Kerry Mike on August 23, 2007, 12:25:50 AM
His first book was just about readable and stirred up alot of ruptions in the Kingdom, his second was pure yerra.
It was a good read alright, but his habit of talking about every game he played in in terms - 'Kerry were losing until I came on as a second half sub, turned the game and we won...'etc
AFAIR he opens the book by stating that he should have won an All-Star in '92 even though they were beaten in the Munster final by Clare.
He's generating so much talk / debate that RTE will likely keep him.
Quote from: LegalEagle on August 22, 2007, 07:00:20 PM
Pat Spillane on Des Cahill Show castigated Tyrone football tonight. He criticised the negative tactics of Tyrone and Armagh footballers and blamed the mangers
Feckin eejit, I feckin downloaded the radio show, and feckin sat like a feckin tyrone eejit with clenched fists and gritted teeth waiting to hear what the fecker said. He never mentioned tyrone or armagh at all! You have little to be doin legal eejit. >:( :o >:(
He mightnt have mentioned them in that interview but he has been using his weekly newspaper piece to give out regular uncalled for abuse. I wouldnt have bothered replying if I thought he was on the wind up but Im convinced he's for real. He wouldnt still be sticking the boot in now 3 or 4 years later when the teams are out of the championship for a wind up. He'd no reason to mention Tyrone when previewing the Kerry Monaghan came but couldnt resist a dig. The fact that the criticism is totally unfounded doesnt matter. Any genuine football fan will recognise that every team in Ireland get men behind the ball, few though attacked in the same numbers as Tyrone which was ignored. Cork Sligo was as bad a game as is imaginable, will it be constantly mentioned in 3 or 4 years and these teams blamed for ruining football? As for what the Kerry people think of him, they mightnt say it but they know he's a mouth.d
"Vinny's going to get you" is on with Des now.
Gwan the Bomber...
Vinny and the Pony, I remember that belt of a shoulder he put Vinny out over the the sideline in Thurles with.
Quote from: ziggysego on August 23, 2007, 10:25:37 AM
I think Spillane is a dose of the highest order, but I think he's good value. As long as you don't take to heart what he says, the craic is good.
Anyway, does anyone take him serious anymore... even in Kerry?
Good man Ziggy you are spot on it is good craic and no nobody in Kerry takes him that seriouslly .
So why is someone not be be taken in any way seriously fronting the flagship GAA show on RTE?
Exactly. You don't expect to see Shirley Temple Barr presenting the "Heino Cup". In the cause of parity of esteem with the professional entertainment sports, I'm going to start a Bring Back Bosco campaign to replace Billo.
Quote from: Hardy on August 24, 2007, 08:36:55 AM
Exactly. You don't expect to see Shirley Temple Barr presenting the "Heino Cup". In the cause of parity of esteem with the professional entertainment sports, I'm going to start a Bring Back Bosco campaign to replace Billo.
They got rid of Shirley Temple Barr off Telly Bingo. There's some man presenting it now
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2007, 12:32:10 AM
So why is someone not be be taken in any way seriously fronting the flagship GAA show on RTE?
I think RTE did not want to pay to develop and train one of its own staff to step into Lysters shoes . Who will replace him on Sunday Afternoons on the live games ?. RTE have Dunphy ,Hook and Spillane . Dunphy has not played the game or been directly involved in 30 years yet gets big bucks for it .