Jaysus lads, strong stuff from John Allen on "Road to Croker" this evening. Having a serious go at people who post on GAA internet discussion pages under anonymous pseudonyms. Hes going to get Ger Loughnane on our case :o
i was waiting for a few of us to be named and shamed!
John Allen is waiting to be libelled on this board lads
I bet ya he'll be hoping for some thick in "Up North" to libel him
what exactly did he say?
nevermind seen it on other thread
It was the best bit of comedy RTE has produced in years.
Unintentional or not.
Our cards are marked lads!!
Head for the hills before the cork savage tears each of us limb from limb! :D :D :D
Clearly we are the best, but are there many other GAA boards like this with a decent membership that Allen's referencing?
aye sure we all know the rubbish thats written on that. i've never seen a site where there's so much pointless pickering.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 16, 2007, 10:11:19 PM
Clearly we are the best, but are there many other GAA boards like this with a decent membership that Allen's referencing?
This used to be the best forum, but An Fear Rua has pulled comfortably ahead now. The standard of contributions has gone steadily downhill in the last couple of years.
Quote from: jimmykeaveney on August 16, 2007, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 16, 2007, 10:11:19 PM
Clearly we are the best, but are there many other GAA boards like this with a decent membership that Allen's referencing?
This used to be the best forum, but An Fear Rua has pulled comfortably ahead now. The standard of contributions has gone steadily downhill in the last couple of years.
Depends what you want. Way more hurling on AFR so hurling debate is a lot better there. Standard of football discussion is much better on here.
Off topic discussions I don't see much difference between the two apart from having way more northern contributers on this site. AFR contributers are almost exclusively from hurling counties.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 16, 2007, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: jimmykeaveney on August 16, 2007, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 16, 2007, 10:11:19 PM
Clearly we are the best, but are there many other GAA boards like this with a decent membership that Allen's referencing?
This used to be the best forum, but An Fear Rua has pulled comfortably ahead now. The standard of contributions has gone steadily downhill in the last couple of years.
Depends what you want. Way more hurling on AFR so hurling debate is a lot better there. Standard of football discussion is much better on here.
Off topic discussions I don't see much difference between the two apart from having way more northern contributers on this site. AFR contributers are almost exclusively from hurling counties.
Theres def more nordies on this site. i've often wondered were people from south leinster and munster were. only a handful on here.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 16, 2007, 10:30:03 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 16, 2007, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: jimmykeaveney on August 16, 2007, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 16, 2007, 10:11:19 PM
Clearly we are the best, but are there many other GAA boards like this with a decent membership that Allen's referencing?
This used to be the best forum, but An Fear Rua has pulled comfortably ahead now. The standard of contributions has gone steadily downhill in the last couple of years.
Depends what you want. Way more hurling on AFR so hurling debate is a lot better there. Standard of football discussion is much better on here.
Off topic discussions I don't see much difference between the two apart from having way more northern contributers on this site. AFR contributers are almost exclusively from hurling counties.
Theres def more nordies on this site. i've often wondered were people from south leinster and munster were. only a handful on here.
Not many from Cork, Kilkenny, Limerick, Tipp, Clare, etc on this site. They generally either use their own county websites or use AFR.
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2007, 10:32:52 PM
Quotei've often wondered were people from south leinster and munster were. only a handful on here.
They're probably at hurling trainning and are happy to be successful playing the sport and leave us to talk about it.
:D
How else has this board changed? Has it really declined?
Know there's loads of Nordies, did we all arrive when football was invented a few years back or was there some sort of explosion (big bang theory)?
Quote from: jimmykeaveney on August 16, 2007, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 16, 2007, 10:11:19 PM
Clearly we are the best, but are there many other GAA boards like this with a decent membership that Allen's referencing?
This used to be the best forum, but An Fear Rua has pulled comfortably ahead now. The standard of contributions has gone steadily downhill in the last couple of years.
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I've been posting intermittently on here since 2004 with a couple of different handles (although never with more than one at a time, unlike some people I suspect) and lurking since about 2000. It's very true that there's a different geographical spread on this board to AFR, but back around 2003/2004 there was still an overwhelmingly Northern bias to many of the posts here, just that the content back then was better imo. Many of the regular and more considered posters such as Wobbler, GBB, Hardy, Rufus, even O'Neill etc are still here but overall I'd stand by my opinion that this board has gone downhill.
This site would be less likely to draw fire from Allen, as I think most of the time the comments here are rarely over the top.
On Hoganstand and AFR, the content would be a little bit more abusive.
This site has improved a lot with posters keeping comments confined to the relevant threads and not continually starting new ones. Also minority interest topics don't engulf the main forum like they used to.
The whole Nordie basis is just down to the fact we only got the internet up here a few years back before that we were still using messaging pigeons. Threads were going off topic by the time our messages arrived. Feel for us!
Please forgive my ignorance but who is John Allen? why is he waiting to be liabled
Quote from: The Subbie on August 17, 2007, 09:11:10 AM
Please forgive my ignorance but who is John Allen? why is he waiting to be liabled
Nah sorry, ignorance not forgiven! :o
this board has become a bit like Big brother with poster far too aware that outsiders are looking and care whats said (most of it imagined as in BB)
For Subbie's attention, John Allen is the former manager of the Cork senior hurling team.
He has a column every Friday in the Irish Times. He's talking through his chapeau in it this week though:
Mind games the key to Reale success
Fri, Aug 17, 2007
Mostly Hurling:The former England rugby captain Martin Johnston was the subject of a recent television documentary. I was encouraged to hear him talk of going to the stadium before a big game to do his mental rehearsal. He spoke a few times about rehearsing games in his mind. It reminded my of how often lately we have heard Padraig Harrington talk of his sports psychologist, a man in whom Padraig seems to have complete faith, writes John Allen.
In Denis Walsh's fine piece on Dónal Óg Cusack in the Sunday Timesrecently, Cusack talks of doing his mental rehearsal before big games.
Walk into any big bookshop and see the number of books on the subject of mind preparation for sport.
Yet in hurling and football we haven't yet embraced sports psychology. There's reluctance in some quarters to even discuss the topic. It's seen as a weakness of some sort to have to resort to such abstractions.
We just don't seen to believe we can train our minds. There's a huge lack of understanding of the subject.
We seem to forget the times when we carefully rehearsed the story we would tell our parents when as 16-year-olds we arrived home at five in the morning, or the story we had ready for teachers when we didn't have homework done, or what we were going to say to sell ourselves in the job interview.
And were we not the stars of the show in the games in the back garden, imagining ourselves scoring the winning goal in Croke Park? We usually rehearsed these to perfection, yet we fail to rehearse for the big sporting occasions we prepare so thoroughly for in every other way.
Surely it makes sense to believe that if we can go some way toward controlling our thinking then we can go some way toward having a better life and achieving our goals.
But there are, of course, some "believers" in our sport and there are teams who use sports psychologists.
Where the mind goes everything else follows. Did not every great invention start as an idea in somebody's mind?
There definitely is a lack of understanding on the topic. There is also a problem specific to the amateurs who play our games - there is not enough time to find out more about, or to practise, mental rehearsal, imagery or visualisation.
"Imagery" is a way of programming your mind and body to consistently perform close to your optimum.
For best results imagery should be practised every day. You should see yourself achieving your goals and successfully executing the skills you are trying to hone.
This technique takes time to perfect. You have to be persistent. But in the long run it will lead to greater concentration and an overall improvement in performance.
Visualising yourself performing well in a game will help to programme you for success, since your subconscious mind does not differentiate between what you see with your mind's eye and what you see with your physical eye. Imagery is a way of creating a new reality.
Terry Orlich has written an excellent book on the subject, In Pursuit Of Excellence.
The preface has a quote from the American writer Gail Sheehy: "If we don't change we don't grow. If we don't grow we are not really living. Growth demands a temporary surrender of security. It may mean giving up familiar but limiting patterns, safe but unrewarding work and values no longer believed in."
Many players now set yearly goals, in the pursuit of which they plan their season. Of course to achieve those long-term goals they have to also set short-term ones. These goals are what make up our week-to-week training plan. Maybe it's now time to add in imagery as well.
Wayne Dyer's book You'll See It When You Believe It encourages us to imagine ourselves achieving. He says we get essentially what we believe in. So if we believe in hard luck and are always satisfied with being runners-up and persist in using the language of losers then that thinking will be borne out in our lives.
But if we believe and see ourselves achieving great things then there is a far greater chance we will succeed.
So, Damien Reale, it's time for you to add this technique to your training over the next fortnight. Remember, you can practise this anywhere. Do it every day. You just need to relax, close your eyes and take yourself into your imagination.
The referee has just blown the final whistle. Suddenly you are surrounded by a forest of jubilant, green-clad supporters. You are being slapped and clapped and pushed into the maelstrom. See yourself making your way through the heaving crowd to the Hogan Stand. Maoir and gardaí usher you to the place of honour. Picture your team-mates hugging and hollering. Hear the sound of the madness out on the field. See yourself shaking Nickey Brennan's hand as you get ready to lay hands on the Liam MacCarthy Cup. See yourself wiping the sweat from your forehead. Look at the miles of smiles that stretch out before you. Listen to Nickey, then lift Liam to the sky and listen to the sounds from the sea of green as it echoes around Croke Park. Then deliver the happiest, most ringing acceptance speech that has ever echoed around the hallowed stadium.
If Limerick play with the same intensity again, Damien, ye might not need any extra help, but it's worth a go anyway.
© 2007 The Irish Times
He might as well just say it out straight: Cork people dont want to see Kilkenny win
Allen's column this week is the type of stuff Tom Humphries churns out when he's bored.
One of Jack O'Connor's recent articles was similarly full of rambling nonsense.
Adds weight to the argument that Big Tom ghost writes for both of them. Or just maybe all three have the similar attribute of mixing the very good with the ridiculous..
Agrred Hound, I've great respect for John Allen as a hurling man but thon article is bollox.
The bart fellow he was very upset about is a regular over at res dubs
I've not been on much the last day or two. What did he say?
PoG said it is posted in another thread, but I can't find it.
Iolar cois cuain , thanks for that , whilst i appreciate the game of hurling i don't know that many protaginists as they say in my part of the world - what do you call a Monaghan hurler ?
Guard ;D ;D ;D
John Allen's column is aboslute muck, and I hope he reads this!
That "citeog side" column last summer was far better...
I have to say I really don't like the Cork psycho-babble, sweeter than sweet, holier than thou bullshit, and Allen is a great practitioner of it...
On the subject of this board, it's gone to f**k. An fear rua is 100 times better, the only advantage this one has is that the lay out is way better and the site is quicker to load than AFR
Anyone that wants to talk small ball and have a laugh should forget John Allens comments and visit AFR which I think is the best GAA forum of all and I do visit most of them. I also beleive that some of the text shown on rte was from waterfords gaa forum where Cork gets some serious abuse.
Just visited the AFR website (didn't even know they had a forum) and it just seems like a gaaboard-lite - a messier less-used version.
Look at the top 7 threads:
John Allen?? A buffoon.
Films you can watch more than once and laugh at...
Seán Kelly wants Mulvihill's job ?
Next section of Ennis by-pass
Anybody use Blueface internet phone?
HOY - O'Shaughnessey?
Best Intro to a Song
Can't agree that AFR is a much better site, I rarely read the non-GAA topics on AFR but the GAA stuff is primarily hurling and is of no higher standard than here. Some of the comments on that site are childish and ridiculous as they are here but the good posters on both sites are of similar quailty, here is better for football talk, AFR is better for hurling.